§ 46. Sir Cooper Rawsonasked the Minister for the Co-ordination of Defence whether, in considering air—raid precautions, attention has been directed to the greater visibility from the air at night of light-coloured roads compared with dark—coloured roads; and whether he will discuss with other Departments of His Majesty's Government the best methods of darkening the surface of arterial roads in case of emergency?
§ The Minister for the Co-ordination of Defence (Sir Thomas Inskip)The point has not been overlooked in connection with the choice of suitable road materials.
§ Sir C. RawsonMay we have the answer repeated in view of the noise up here?
§ Mr. SpeakerWe cannot have every question repeated. If hon. Members do not remain quiet, I cannot keep them quiet. [Interruption.]
§ Mr. KirkwoodAttention is paid to foreign affairs but not to the poor folk of this country.
§ Mr. SpeakerIf the hon. Member cannot behave himself, I shall ask him to leave the House.
§ Mr. KirkwoodI do not give a damn if you ask me to leave the House or not.
§ Mr. SpeakerThe hon. Member will withdraw.
§ Mr. KirkwoodI will not withdraw.
§ Mr. SpeakerThen I must name the hon. Member for disregarding the authority of the Chair.
§ The Prime MinisterI beg to move, "That Mr. Kirkwood be suspended from the service of the House."
§ The hon. Member proceeded to withdraw.
§ Mr. SpeakerThe hon. Member having—
§ Mr. Kirkwood (Standing beyond the Bar)Don't "hon. Member" me. Do you think you are going to treat me like a boy? That is what you would like to do. I do not give a damn for you.
§ Question put.
§ Mr. AttleeMay I ask whether the Prime Minister would withdraw his Motion in view of the fact that the hon. Member has left the House?
§ Mr. SpeakerThe Prime Minister has moved, and I have put the Question. The right hon. Gentleman must put his question to me seated.
§ The House divided: Ayes, 178; Noes, 104.
1773| Division No. 9.] | AYES. | [3.35 p.m. |
| Allen, Col. J. Sandeman (B'knhead) | Grant-Ferris, R. | Nicolson, Hon. H. G. |
| Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | O'Connor, Sir Terence J. |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Gretton, Col. Rt. Hon. J. | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. W. C. A. |
| Assheton, R. | Gridley, Sir A. B. | Orr-Ewing. I. L. |
| Astor, Hon. W. W. (Fulham, E.) | Grimston, R. V. | Patrick, C. M. |
| Barclay-Harvey, Sir C. M. | Gunston, Capt. D. W | Peat, C. U. |
| Baxter, A. Beverley | Hannah, I. C. | Perkins, W. R. D. |
| Beaumont, M. W. (Aylesbury) | Hannon, Sir P. J. H. | Petherick, M. |
| Belt, Sir A. L. | Harris, Sir P. A. | Pilkington, R. |
| Bennett, Sir E. N. | Hartington, Marquess of | Ponsonby, Col. C. E. |
| Bernays, R. H. | Harvey, T. E. (Eng. Univ's.) | Porritt, R. W. |
| Bird, Sir R. B. | Haslam, Sir J. (Bolton) | Pownall, Lt.-Col. Sir Assheton |
| Bossom, A. C. | Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. | Raikes, H. V. A. M. |
| Boulton, W. W. | Hepburn, P. G. T. Buchan | Ramsden, Sir E. |
| Boyce, H. Leslie | Herbert, Mater J. A. (Monmouth) | Rankin, Sir R. |
| Bull, B. B. | Higgs, W. F. | Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin) |
| Burgin, Rt. Hon. E. L. | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. J. W. (Ripon) | Rawson, Sir Cooper |
| Burton, Col. H. W. | Hoare, Rt. Hon. Sir S. | Rayner, Major R. H. |
| Butler, R. A. | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.) | Rickards, G. W. (Skipton) |
| Campbell, Sir E. T. | Hudson, R. S. (Southport) | Roberts, W. (Cumberland, N.) |
| Cartland, J. R. H. | Hume, Sir G. H. | Ropner, Colonel L. |
| Cary, R. A. | Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir T. W. H. | Rothschild, J. A. de |
| Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) | Keeling, E. H. | Royds, Admiral P. M. R. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n) | Kerr, Colonel C. I. (Montrose) | Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir E. A. |
| Channon, H. | Kerr, H. W. (Oldham) | Russell, Sir Alexander |
| Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) | Kerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univs.) | Russell, S. H. M. (Darwen) |
| Chorlton, A. E. L. | Law, Sir A. J. (High Peak) | Salt, E. W. |
| Clarke, F. E. (Dartford) | Lees-Jones, J. | Salter, Sir J. Arthur (Oxford U.) |
| Cobb, Captain E. C. (Preston) | Lewis, O. | Sandeman, Sir N. S. |
| Colville, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. D. J. | Lindsay, K. M. | Savery, Sir Servington |
| Cook, Sir T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.) | Lipson, D. L. | Selley, H. R. |
| Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.) | Lloyd, G. W. | Shakespeare, G. H. |
| Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L. | Locker-Lampson, Comdr. O. S. | Shaw, Captain W. T. (Forfar) |
| Cox, H. B. T. | Lovat-Fraser, J. A. | Shepperson, Sir E. W. |
| Crookshank, Capt. H. F. C. | Lyons, A. M. | Shute, Colonel Sir J. J. |
| Crossley, A. C. | Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) | Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. |
| Crowder, J. F. E. | MacAndrew, Colonel Sir C. G. | Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's) |
| Davies, Major Sir G. F. (Yeovil) | MacDonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) | Smiles, Lieut.-Colonel Sir W. D. |
| Davison, Sir W. H. | Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight) | Smith, L. W. (Hallam) |
| Dawson, Sir P. | McKie, J. H. | Somervell. Sir D. B. (Crewe) |
| De la Bère, R. | Macnamara, Capt. J. R. J. | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Macquisten, F. A. | Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'm 'l'd) |
| Duggan, H. J. | Magnay, T. | Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.) |
| Duncan, J. A. L. | Maitland, A. | Storey, S. |
| Dunglass, Lord | Mander, G. le M. | Stourton, Major Hon. J. J. |
| Edmondson, Major Sir J. | Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. | Strauss, H. G. (Norwich) |
| Elliston, Capt. G. S | Markham, S. F. | Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne) |
| Emmett, C. E. G. C. | Maxwell, Hon. S. A. | Thomson, Sir J. D. W. |
| Evans, E. (Univ. of Wales) | Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J. | Titchfield, Marquess of |
| Everard, W. L. | Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.) | Tree, A. R. L. F. |
| Findlay, Sir E. | Moore-Brabazon, Lt.-Col. J. T. C. | Turton, R. H. |
| Fleming, E. L. | Moreing, A. C. | Wakefield, W. W. |
| Furness, S. N. | Morris-Jones, Sir Henry | Wallace, Capt. Rt. Hon. Euan |
| Ganzoni, Sir J. | Muirhead, Lt.-Col. A. J. | Ward, Lieut.—Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) |
| George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Munro, P. | Ward, Irene M. B. (Wallsend) |
| Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Nall, Sir J. | Wardlaw-Milne, Sir J. S. |
| Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C. | Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H. | Waterhouse. Captain C. |
| Watt, G. S. H. | Withers, Sir J. J. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES. |
| Wayland, Sir W. A | Womersley, Sir W. J. | Mr. Cross and Captain D |
| Williams, C. (Torquay) | Wright, Wing-Commander J. A. C. | |
| Williams, H. G. (Croydon, S.) | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Adams, D. (Consett) | Hall, G. H. (Aberdare) | Noel-Baker, P. J. |
| Adamson, W. M. | Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) | Paling, W. |
| Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V, (H'lsbr.) | Hardie, Agnes | Parkinson, J. A. |
| Ammon, C. G. | Heyday, A. | Pethick—Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W. |
| Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. | Henderson, A. (Kingswinford) | Ridley, G. |
| Batey, J. | Henderson, J. (Ardwick) | Riley, B. |
| Benson, G. | Henderson, T. (Tradoston) | Ritson, J. |
| Bevan, A. | Hills, A. (Pontefract) | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Brom.) |
| Bromfield, W. | Hopkin, D. | Sexton. T. M. |
| Brown, C. (Mansfield) | Jagger, J. | Shinwell, E. |
| Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (S. Ayrshire) | Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) | Short, A. |
| Burke, W. A. | Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath) | Silverman, S. S. |
| Cape, T. | Jones, A. C. (Shipley) | Simpson, F. B. |
| Cassells, T. | Kelly, W. T. | Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly) |
| Chater, D. | Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T. | Smith, T. (Nor nanton) |
| Cluse, W. S. | Kirby, B. V. | Stephen, C. |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R. | Lathan, G. | Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng) |
| Dagger, G. | Lawson, J. J. | Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth) |
| Dalton, H. | Leach, W. | Thorne, W. |
| Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill) | Lee, F. | Thurtle, E. |
| Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) | Leonard, W. | Tinker, J. J. |
| Day, H. | Leslie, J. R. | Viant, S. P. |
| Dobbie, W. | Logan, D. G. | Walker, J. |
| Dunn. E. (Rother Valley) | Lunn, W. | Watson, W. McL. |
| Ede, J. C. | Macdonald, G. (Ince) | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. J. C. |
| Edwards, A. (Middlesbrough E.) | McEntee, V. La T. | Welsh, J. C. |
| Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty) | McGovern, J. | Westwood, J. |
| Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. | Maclean, N. | Wilkinson, Ellen |
| Gallacher, W. | MacMillan, M. (Western Isles) | Williams, E. J. (Ogmore) |
| Gardner, B. W. | Mainwaring, W. H. | Wilson, C. H. (Attercliffe) |
| Garro Jones, G. M. | Mathers, G. | Windsor, W. (Hull, C.) |
| Graham, D. M. (Hamilton) | Messer, F. | Woods, G. S. (Finsbury) |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. | Montague, F. | |
| Grenfell, D. R. | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Griffiths, C. A. (Hemsworth) | Muff, G. | Mr. Groves and Mr. Charleton. |
| Guest, Dr. L. H. (Islington, N.) | Naylor, T. E. |
Question, "That this House do now adjourn," put, arid agreed to.
§ Mr. BateyOn a point of Order. Will the Prime Minister make an explanation of why he moved that suspension after the hon. Member had left the House?
§ Mr. SpeakerThe House will recollect that I asked the hon. Member for Dumbarton Burghs (Mr. Kirkwood) to withdraw from the House. He first of all refused, and I had to name him. He then proceeded to walk out. As he was walking out I rose and was prepared to withdraw my naming of him, but he turned round at the Bar and insulted me, and had no other course to pursue than to allow matters to proceed.
§ Mr. McEnteeMay I point out, Mr. Speaker, that when the hon. Member turned round and insulted you he was actually not in the House.
§ Mr. SpeakerI could not allow hon. Members to insult the Chair from beyond the Bar.