§ 10.25 p.m.
§ The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for SCOTLAND (Mr. Skelton)I beg to move, in page 49, line 3, to leave out from "Minister" to the end of the Subsection.
1763 It is intended that on the Report stage, Clause 60 dealing with rules regarding superannuation and pension of certain officers should be amended so as to provide that the consultation with the Treasury at present confined to the Minister of Health, shall be carried on concurrently by that Minister and the Secretary of State for Scotland. This alteration in the Scottish Clause is accordingly necessary.
§ Amendment agreed to.
§ Mr. SKELTONI beg to move, in page 49, line 15, after the word "May," to insert:
or, in the case of a council whose financial year ends on a day other than the fifteenth day of May, to that other day.This Amendment is to provide for the fact that although the ordinary date for the end of the Scottish local authorities' financial year is 15th May there are three authorities whose financial years end on other dates.
§ Amendment agreed to.
1764§ Further Amendments made: In page 49, line 17, leave out "(ii)" and insert "(iii)."
§ In page 49, line 17, after "(2)" insert "and in Sub-section (4)".—(Mr. Skelton.)
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
§ 10.29 p.m.
§ Mr. CHARLES WILLIAMSThis is a very important Clause dealing with Scotland, and it is of great interest to note that no Scottish Member of the Socialist Party has seen fit to take any part in the discussion of the Amendments to it. It seems rather a pity that the Scottish section of the Opposition have not had a look-in on this very important part of the Bill, and it is notable that both Oppositions seem to have agreed, for once, to be silent.
§ Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 229; Noes, 56.
1765| Division No. 181.] | AYES. | [10.29 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Colfox, Major William Philip | Hanbury, Cecil |
| Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) | Canant, R. J. E. | Hanley, Dennis A. |
| Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. | Cook, Thomas A. | Harbord, Arthur |
| Albery, Irving James | Cooke, Douglas | Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n) |
| Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd.) | Copeland, Ida | Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. |
| Allen, William (stoke-on-Trent) | Cranborne, Viscount | Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Crooke, J. Smedley | Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsford) |
| Applln, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. | Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle) | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller |
| Apsley, Lord | Croom, Johnson, R. P. | Hornby, Frank |
| Aske, Sir Robert William | Cross, R. H. | Horsbrugh, Florence |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard | Howard, Tom Forrest |
| Balley, Eric Alfred George | Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. C. C. | Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Davies, Maj. Geo. P. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Dickle, John P. | Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) |
| Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'th, C.) | Dower, Captain A. V. G. | Hume, Sir George Hopwood |
| Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B. | Duggan, Hubert John | Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries) |
| Bevan, Stuart James (Holborn) | Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) | Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer |
| Blinded, James | Edmondson, Major A. J. | James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. |
| Boulton, W. W. | Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey | Kerr, Lieut.-Col. Charles (Montrose) |
| Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton | Emrys-Evans, P. V. | Kerr, Hamilton W. |
| Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. | Erskine-Bolst, capt. C. C. (Blk'pool) | Lamb, sir Joseph Quinton |
| Bralthwalte, J. G. (Hillsborough) | Everard, W. Lindsay | Law, Sir Alfred |
| Brass, Captain Sir William | Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Leckie, J. A. |
| Broadbent, Colonel John | Fleming, Edward Lascelles | Leech, Dr. J. W. |
| Brown, Col. D.C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Ford, Sir Patrick J. | Leighton, Major B. E. P. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Fox, Sir Gifford | Liddall, Walter S. |
| Browne, Captain A. C. | Fremantle, Sir Francis | Lindsay, Noel Ker |
| Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T | Fuller, Captain A. G. | Little, Graham-, Sir Ernest |
| Bullock, Captain Malcolm | Glossop, C. W. H. | Lloyd, Geoffrey |
| Burgin, Dr. Edward Leslis | Gluckstein, Louis Halle | Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd.Gr'n) |
| Burnett, John George | Goff, Sir Park | Lockwood, Capt. J. H. (Shipley) |
| Butt, Sir Alfred | Goldie, Noel B. | Loftus, Pierce C. |
| Cadogan, Hon. Edward | Goodman, Colonel Albert W. | Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander |
| Campbell, Sir Edward Taswell (firmly) | Gower, Sir Robert | Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. |
| Caporn, Arthur Cecil | Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd. N.) | Mabane, William |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Graves, Marjorie | MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. C. G. (Partick) |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) | Greene, William P. C. | MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) |
| Chorlton, Alan Ernest Leofric | Grimston, R. V. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) |
| Christie, James Archibald | Guinness. Thomas L. E. B. | MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) |
| Clarry, Reginald George | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton |
| Clayton, Sir Christopher | Guy, J. C. Morrison | McLean, Major Sir Alan |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hammersley, Samuel S. | Macquisten, Frederick Alexander |
| Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. | Rankin, Robert | Strauss, Edward A. |
| Martin, Thomas B. | Rathbone, Eleanor | Strickland, Captain W. F. |
| Mason, Col. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) | Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir Murray F. |
| Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John | Reid, William Allan (Derby) | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart |
| Mills, Major J, D. (New Forest) | Renwick, Major Gustav A. | Sutcliffe, Harold |
| Milne, Charles | Ropner, Colonel L. | Tate, Mavis Constance |
| Mitchell, Harold p. (Brtf'd & Chlsw'k) | Rosbotham, Sir Thomas | Templeton, William P. |
| Mitcheson, G. G. | Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) | Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford) |
| Moreing, Adrian C. | Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A. | Thompson, Sir Luke |
| Morris, John Patrick (Salford, N.) | Runge, Norah Cecil | Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles |
| Morris, Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.) | Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy) | Thorp, Linton Theodore |
| Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Tree, Ronald |
| Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univer'ties) | Rutherford, John (Edmonton) | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Morrison, William Shephard | Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l) | Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L. |
| Moss, Captain H. J. | Salt, Edward W. | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Mulrhead, Lieut.-Colonel A. J. | Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart | Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey) |
| Munro, Patrick | Scone, Lord | Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) |
| Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. | Selley, Harry R. | Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock) |
| Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) | Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) | Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. |
| Normand, Rt. Hon. Wilfrid | Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar) | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Nunn, William | Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. | Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour |
| O'Donovan, Dr. William James | Simmonds, Oliver Edwin | Wells, Sydney Richard |
| O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh | Skelton, Archibald Noel | Whiteside, Borras Noel H. |
| Pearson, William G. | Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D. | Whyte, Jardine Bell |
| Penny, Sir George | Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich) | Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) |
| Perkins, Walter R. D. | Smith, Sir J. Walker- (Barrow-in-F.) | Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.) |
| Petherick, M. | Smith, R. W. (Ab'rd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) | Wills, Wilfrid D. |
| Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bliston) | Somervell, Sir Donald | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. | Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E. | Wise, Alfred R. |
| Procter, Major Henry Adam | Spencer, Captain Richard A. | Womersley, Walter James |
| Pybus, Sir Percy John | Spens, William Patrick | |
| Radford, E. A. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Raikes, Henry V. A. M. | Stevenson, James | Lord Erskine and Commander Southby. |
| Ramsay T. B. W. (Western Isles) | Storey, Samuel | |
| Ramabotham, Herwald | Stourton, Hon. John J. | |
| NOES. | ||
| Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro, W.) | Maxton, James. |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Groves, Thomas E. | Milner, Major James |
| Banfield, John William | Grundy, Thomas W. | Paling, Wilfred |
| Batey, Joseph | Hall, Georgs H. (Merthyr Tydvll) | Parkinson, John Allen |
| Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) | Harris, Sir Percy | Pickering, Ernest H. |
| Buchanan, George | Hicks, Ernest George | Rea, Walter Russell |
| Cape, Thomas | Janner, Barnett | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Cove, William G. | Jenkins, Sir William | Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A. (C'thness) |
| Daggar, George | Johnstons, Harcourt (S. Shields) | Smith, Tom (Normanton) |
| Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Thorne, William James |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Kirkwood, David | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Dobbie, William | Lawson, John James | White, Henry Graham |
| Edwards, Charles | Leonard, William | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) | Logan, David Gilbert | Williams, Edward John (Ogmore) |
| Evans, R. T. (Carmarthen) | Lunn, William | Wilmot, John |
| Foot, Dingle (Dundee) | McEntee, Valentine L. | Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff) |
| George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) | McKeag, William | |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur | Mainwaring, William Henry | Mr. John and Mr. C. Macdonald. |
| Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) | Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot |