HC Deb 02 November 1932 vol 269 cc1903-15

Nothing in this Act shall exclude any goods grown, produced, or manufactured in any part of the British Empire, the Government of which is a party to one of the scheduled agreements, from the advantages of any preferential arrangements under the provisions of this Act, notwithstanding that they may have passed through the territory of a foreign country in transit.—[Mr. White.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Mr. WHITE

I beg to move, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

The object of this new Clause, which stands in my name and that of the hon. Baronet the Member for South-West Bethnal Green (Sir P. Harris), is to see that no produce or goods manufactured within the British Empire are precluded from benefiting from the preferences embodied in these Agreements owing to the fact that they may have had to pass, on their way to this country, through foreign territory. In fact, it is to make sure that all the produce of the Empire shall be in the same favoured position as the produce of Northern Rhodesia., Southern Rhodesia and Nyasaland by the arrangement which was made in the Bill to secure their position from possible mishap. The Financial Secretary to the Treasury will realise that this Clause is not in any sense hostile to the purposes of the Bill. In fact, I have every reason to believe that he is in complete sympathy with the purpose of it. He said so the other night when we were discussing the question of Canadian wheat. He explained to the Committee that he had been at pains, with his advisers, in going into the matter, and he regretted that he was unable to concede the point raised by the hon. Member for West Derby (Sir J. Sandeman Allen) who moved an Amendment in order to secure that all Canadian wheat should have the benefit of the Preference.

I hope that the sympathy of the Financial Secretary will on this occasion resolve itself into some practical form, and that, even if this Clause cannot be accepted as it stands, he may be able with the ingenuity of his advisers to make some alternative suggestion which may overcome a very serious and grave difficulty. When the matter was under discussion before the Financial Secretary said that the ease of Canada and the United States was different from the case of Nyasaland and Southern Rhodesia, using the Port of Beira, because they were entirely landlocked. We say that no Dominion produce should be prevented from receiving the benefits of the Preference because of any geographical position. If obstacles exist, it is not beyond the ingenuity of the hon. Member's Department and his advisers to suggest some way by which it can be overcome.

This matter has been left, unfortunately, in a profoundly unsatisfactory state. Those concerned with the importation of wheat into this country and the movement of grain in Canada do not know where they are in the matter. I noticed to-day that a heavy fall in wheat was recorded on the Winnipeg market, and the reason given for that was the uncertainty in regard to the position in connection with this Bill. As things stand at the moment there is no volume of opinion interested in this matter which is satisfied with the position, and it is imperative that something should be done to clear up the difficulty. Sixty per cent. of the Canadian wheat reaches tidal water by Buffalo and the United States of America. That is a very important part of the Canadian wheat trade, and unless something is done to secure that that trade may follow its present channel and secure the benefit of the Preference, one of two things must happen. Either the wheat will continue to go as it is carried at present and will not get the benefit of the Preference, and will consequently pay the duty, or it will go over the Canadian lakes to the Canadian railways and on to Halifax and St. John. The difference in cost will be an additional six cents. per bushel before the wheat reaches Liverpool, which will be paid by the British consumer unless, owing to some internal changes in the economy of the trade, the grower in Western Canada will receive six cents, a bushel less for the wheat he grows. At the present time the grower in Western Canada is paid on the basis of the Liverpool price, less the cost of carriage.

It will be seen that nobody stands to get any benefit from this particular arrangement, and no one is satisfied. The dissatisfaction in regard to this matter has increased very greatly because of the allegations that are being made as to the way in which the arrangement was brought about. It is known that there was opposition to this proposal in Canada from the growers, from the Liberal party and from Members of the Cabinet. The statement is made, and it is known, that there has been competition on the great lakes between Canadian lake steamers and American lake steamers, and it is thought by certain interests in Canada that as a result of this arrangement this trade will be taken away from the American lake steamers and put into the hands of the Canadian line steamers. That will make a monopoly and lead to increased cost, which will eventually have to be paid by the consumers of the wheat. The proposal will have the effect of driving the Canadian wheat over the Canadian national railways to Halifax and St. Johns.

The suggestion is made, and it adds to the annoyance of the people who are adversely affected, that the arrangement was not w anted by the British delegates or anyone in this country, but was insisted upon by the Canadian Prime Minister for reasons which were not immune from electoral considerations and that it is part of a ramp to get the grain traffic into the hands of the Canadian line steamers, and to drive the grain over the Canadian lines down to the Canadian seaboard. It is clear that this matter is being left in a very unsatisfactory state from every conceivable point of view. The new Clause is moved in the hope that it will enable the Government to do something to meet the views of those who are concerned about this matter, and to give some assurance that, even if this Clause cannot be accepted, the Government will devote their minds to the subject in order that a grave danger may be overcome.

Sir P. HARRIS

I beg to second the Motion.

I would remind the House that last Monday we had a very interesting discussion, which was initiated not by an hon. Member on this side but by the hon. Member for West Derby (Sir J. Sandeman Allen) and the hon. Member for Birkenhead, West (Lieut.-Colonel Sande-man Allen), and supported by no less a Member than the hon. Member for the City of London (Mr. E. C. Grenfell). I should have liked to have had that hon. Member's assistance to-night. He put up an unanswerable case. I would ask hon. Members to turn to the wording of the new Clause. I do not believe that there is one hon. Member in this House, not even the Financial Secretary, who would take exception to the wording of it. It says: Nothing in this Act shall exclude any goods grown, produced, or manufactured in any part of the British Empire, the Government of which is a party to one of the scheduled Agreements, from the advantages of any preferential arrangements under the provisions of this Act, notwithstanding that they may have passed through the territory of a foreign country in transit. I understood from what the Financial Secretary said that with the intention of the Amendment which was moved last Monday he was in sympathy, but that he did not see how in practice it was possible to carry it out. Of the articles that are to be subjected for the first time to a tax, wheat is the most important. Therefore, the Government before they came to Parliament and asked that a duty should be put on wheat ought to have gone into the matter further and to have seen whether it was possible to carry out their intention without imposing a tax on Empire wheat. In view of the fact that there are immense supplies of wheat in Canada, there ought not to be a rise in the price of wheat and flour.

I would remind the Committee of a peculiarity in regard to the Canadian wheat trade. For six months in the year the great lakes and the River St. Lawrence are frozen. During the summer months wheat can move freely to Quebec and Montreal, and it comes by American lake steamers from Canadian waters to Great Britain. When the river is frozen up and no steamers are on the great lakes it has been the practice for years past for a great part of the wheat to pass across the frontier into the United States. Another peculiarity of the Canadian trade is that very little of the grain is handled in bags. Most of it goes into cellars, and then through elevators without any human handling. Most of the grain goes over the frontier into the United States, into Buffalo, where, according to the demands of the market and the prices ruling at Winnipeg and Chicago and Liverpool, the grain is moved.

If the new Clause is not passed one of two things will happen. Either the wheat will have to be rushed into Great Britain before the end of October, that is before the Great Lakes are frozen over and before the River St. Lawrence is congested with ice, or it will have to bear the increased railway rates necessary to take it by Hudson Bay or Halifax. [An HON. MEMBER: "Or Vancouver!"] Vancouver is an alternative route, but that only applies to wheat grown west of Winnipeg. I am informed that the price of sending wheat, which is grown east of Winnipeg, across the Canadian Pacific Railway or to the Canadian Northern Railway Harbour would be prohibitive. The same applies to Hudson Ray. There are some people who desire to assist the somewhat hard pressed Canadian Northern Railway, but we are out to protect the consumer here from increased prices, and to look after the interests of the Canadian grower, who is going to be deprived of the facilities of the American railways. There are in Canada and on the border about 5,000 elevators, and the whole of this organisation is going to be disturbed. I suggest that it is not impossible for a certificate to be given by the Canadian Government for such wheat as is sent through the American railways. Canadian wheat which goes to America at present is in bond, there is a duty on Canadian wheat in America, and, therefore, the problem presents no serious difficulty.

If His Majesty's Government are in earnest and are not being exploited by the Canadian railway and shipping interests, if they are prepared to assist the Canadian farmer and give to the English consumers the advantage of the shipping companies of the world, and a free use of American railways, there is no difficulty in regard to the customs. The customs have far more difficult problems to handle. I agree that the importer must prove his case, he must get a certificate from the Canadian Government, but, if His Majesty's Government are willing to assist, I am satisfied that our new Clause is practicable, and I beg the Government to accept it.

Mr. HORE-BELISHA

On Monday last we had a long discussion on the question of wheat. The occasion was an Amendment specifically concerned with wheat grown in Canada and shipped from the United States. The hon. Member for West Derby (Sir J. Sandeman Allen) who moved that Amendment spoke with great personal knowledge and authority and told us that in the winter months the Great Lakes are closed, that the great bulk of Canadian wheat goes to Buffalo into bonded elevators, that any wheat going into America is dutiable, that it, therefore, goes into bond at an elevator and from there on to the train and then to the ship. We learned that last Monday, but I am nevertheless grateful to the hon. Member for reminding me of those details. I was not unconscious of what was said on that occasion because I had to reply, and what I said has been kindly described by the hon. Member for Birkenhead, East (Mr. White) as having been sympathetic and understanding. But this new Clause is not concerned with wheat at all. The hon. Member for Birkenhead, East has made a long and well informed speech upon the subject of wheat, followed by the hon. Member for Smith-West Bethnal Green (Sir P. Harris). This new Clause applies to everything, not only to wheat. My hon. Friend says that it refers to wheat sent from Canada to the United States, where it is put into a bonded elevator and subsequently consigned to this country.

I say that it means something far wider than that. It means one of two things. It may be meant to be a statement of the present law, for it is already permissive upon us to allow a preference on articles which are consigned here from an Imperial country but which in the course of transit pass through a foreign country. That is the present law; and if the new Clause is meant to be a statement of the present law it is unnecessary. If, on the other hand, it is meant to be mandatory—it is not so phrased—it would strike at the whole principle on which Imperial preferences are based. The test of Imperial preferences is the consignment from an Empire country to this country; we allow the benefit of a preference even though the article in question may have passed through a foreign country. We de allow preference in those cases, but if my hon. Friend means that whatever is sent from an Empire country which may go to a foreign country and then be subsequently reconsigned to this country should enjoy a preference, he would render our whole system of preferences impossible to administer.

The object of a preference is to encourage direct trade between one Empire country and another. We wish to have direct trade with Canada and anyone who wishes to enjoy a preference must observe the conditions. When we were discussing the Bill at an earlier period it was made plain that goods consigned from any part of the British Empire to which this Bill applies, no matter what territory they passed through, provided it was a, direct consignment, should enjoy the preference. We said that not only in Sub-section (1) of Clause 2, as regards the Dominions who were parties to the Agreements, but we said it as regards the Colonial Empire, with the one exception to which reference has been made in Sub-section (6), namely Southern Rhodesia, which being landlocked must use a port outside its Own particular territory, the Port of Beira in Portuguese East Africa. Even then we only put in that exception because we had this safeguard, that Southern Rhodesia does actually maintain a Customs officer at Beira. That is its only method of egress to the sea. There are no great shipping facilities there, and Southern Rhodesia has to store goods there where they are supervised by a representative.

Canada is not landlocked, and is in an entirely different position. There is no reason why wheat should not be shipped from Canada. Even though I had looked into the point with a view to meeting the hon. Member if it were at all possible, there was a great Customs difficulty. You could not identify this wheat. It would be almost impossible in practice to do it. I gave the hon. Member these reasons last week, and I can only repeat them to-day. My hon. Friend's constituents are fortunate in having so persistent a representative, because he has not allowed this matter to be dropped or taken "no" for an answer, but has returned to the charge. I am very interested and instructed to hear what he has said, but while I have sympathy for and understanding of his case, I am quite unable to meet it. At any rate, his Clause would not meet his own point, because it is merely a statement of the Law already adopted.

Mr. T. WILLIAMS

May we ask exactly what Sub-section (1) of Clause 2 actually means, unless wheat transhipped from Canada via United States can receive the benefits provided? The hon. Gentleman was very clear and explicit in explaining first of all that adequate arrangements had been made to meet the point of my hon. Friend the Member for East Birkenhead (Mr. White), and then he concluded by saying that because of certain practical difficulties, the Clause could not apply to wheat. Just where do we stand? Unless Sub-section (1) of Clause 2 really does include wheat, I do not see the point of the Sub-section at all.

Mr. HORE-BELISHA

Of course it includes wheat. It includes everything that is consigned from an Imperial country to this country, whether if passes through It foreign country or not, though it must he on a direct consignment and have a through bill of lading. If it has these it may pass through the United States and enjoy the preference provided.

9.30 p.m.

Sir H. SAMUEL

The commodity of wheat is, of course, far the most important thing included in the Bill. This particular difficulty which has been emphasised not only by those who are opposed to the Bill as a whole, but by hon. Members who are loyal supporters of the Government in every particular, such as hon. Members from the Merseyside, and even the hon. Member for the City of London (Mr. E. C. Grenfell), who have taken this most rare occasion to express the views of commercial interests in an independent fashion. The Financial Secretary says that the case of Canada is completely different from that of Southern Rhodesia, because Southern Rhodesia is landlocked, and must therefore send the commodity through another port, but for six months in a year Canada is ice-locked, and her position geographically is exactly the same as being landlocked. This Clause deals only with the situation during that part of the year and if the case could have been made in the one instance, I see no reason why special arrangements should not be made for meeting it in the other.

On the last occasion the Financial Secretary said that the remedy for the difficulties was to be found in the storage of wheat. If I am wrong, I hope he will correct me. I have not the OFFICIAL REPORT at hand, but I have a very clear recollection that he said that all this difficulty could be disposed of, and that the arguments of the hon. Members for East Birkenhead and for the City of London could easily be met by the simple process of not shipping the wheat for some months, and storing it in Canada or here. Who is to bear the cost of the accommodation for many months of an enormous quantity of wheat, and, secondly, for the locking up of trade capital that is involved in buying this wheat and leaving it for several months demobilised in these store houses? It will be the same person who will bear the cost of the whole experiment, the consumer.

Mr. HORE-BELISHA

But they bear the cost now, when it is stored in the United States.

Sir H. SAMUEL

I understand much wheat is moved during the time when the St. Lawrence is ice-locked through ports in the United States which are not ice-locked. That is one reason why they send it by that route instead of the Northern route. I do not pretend to be a technical expert on this matter, but I do not know of any other reason why this southern route is ever taken. The suggestion that the whole matter can be dealt with by storage must involve, somehow or other, additional expenses, which will have to be borne by the consumer. The fact of the matter is that the customs difficulties to which the hon. Gentleman refers as being a barrier, and all the other difficulties, simply arise from the fact that this duty is now being imposed. If the duty were not being imposed, none of the difficulties would arise, the wheat trade would not be disturbed, and the hon. Member for the City of London and hon. Members for the Merseyside would be able to rest tranquil, and the course of trade which has gone on very well for many years would continue. Because of the duty which has been forced upon us

by the Canadian Government, which is not desired by any one in this country, which was not proposed by our Government in the interests of any one here, and which is not desired with any unanimity in Canada—because of these unfortunate proposals, the wheat trade, highly organised as it is, is to be upset and all these difficulties, which have not been denied, are to be imposed on this country.

Question put, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 60; Noes, 264.

Division No. 352.] AYES [9.34 p.m.
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.) Lunn, William
Attlee, Clement Richard Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Macdonald, Gordon (Ince)
Banfield, John William Groves, Thomas E. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Batey, Joseph Grundy, Thomas W. Mander, Geoffrey le M.
Bernays, Robert Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Milner, Major James
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Parkinson, John Allen
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Harris, Sir Percy Pickering, Ernest H.
Cape, Thomas Hicks, Ernest George Price, Gabriel
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Hirst, George Henry Roberts, Aled (Wrexham)
Cove, William G. Holdsworth, Herbert Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Curry, A. C. Danner, Barnett Thorne, William James
Daggar, George Jenkins, Sir William Tinker, John Joseph
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd John, William Watts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col. David
Davies, Rhys John (Westhough[...] Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) White, Henry Graham
Edwards, Charles Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Williams, Edward John (Ogmore)
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Williams, Dr. John H. (Lianelty)
Foot, Dingle (Dundee) Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) Lawson, John James Young, Ernest J. (Middlesbrough, E.)
Graham. D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Leonard, William
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur Llewellyn-Jones, Frederick TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Grenfell, David Flees (Glamorgan) Logan, David Gilbert Mr. Walter Rea and Sir Murdoch
McKenzie Wood.
NOES
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Burghley, Lord Eastwood, John Francis
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Burgin, Dr. Edward Leslie Edmondson, Major A. J.
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Burnett, John George Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Waiter E.
Albery, Irving James Caine, G. R. Hall- Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey
Alien, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l, W.) Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) Elliston, Captain George Sampson
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd) Campbell, Rear-Adml. G. (Burnley) Elmley, Viscount
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Emmott, Charles E. G. C.
Apollo, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Caporn, Arthur Cecil Emrys-Evans, P. V.
Apsley, Lord Castle Stewart, Earl Entwistle, Cyril Fullard
Aske, Sir Robert William Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare)
Atholl, Duchess of Chalmers, John Rutherford Essenhigh, Reginald Clare
Bailey, Eric Alfred George Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N.(Edgbaston) Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.)
Bantle, Sir Adrian W. M. Christie, James Archibald Everard, W. Lindsay
Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. Clayton, Dr. George C. Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Cochrane, Command[...] Hon. [...]. D Forestier-Walker, Sir Leolin
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Colfox, Major William Philip Fremantle, Sir Francis
Banks, Sir Reginald Mitchell Colman, N. C. D. Ganzonl, Sir John
Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey Cooke, Douglas Gibson, Charles Granville
Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portsm'th,C.) Copeland, Ida Gillett, Sir George Masterman
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Courthope, Colonel Sir George L. Glossop, C. W. H.
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Craven-Ellis, William Gluckstein, Louis Halle
Bird, Ernest Roy (Yorks., Skipton) Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Goff, Sir Park
Blindell, James Crooke, J. Smedley Goodman, Colonel Albert W.
Boulton, W. W. Croom-Johnson, R. P. Gower, Sir Robert
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Crossley, A. C. Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd, N.)
Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard Greene, William P. C.
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Davies, Edward C. (Montgomery) Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John
Boyce, H. Leslie Dickle, John P. Grimston, R. V.
Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) Donner, P. W. Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E.
Briscoe, Capt. Richard George Drewe, Cedric Guinness, Thomas L. E. B.
Broadbent, Colonel John Duckworth, George A. V. Gunston, Captain D. W.
Brockiebank, C. E. R. Duggan, Hubert John Guy, J. C. Morrison
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Dunglass, Lord Hanbury, Cecil
Hanley, Dennis A. Martin, Thomas B. Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Mason, Cot. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar)
Harbord, Arthur Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Shepperson, Sir Ernest W.
Hartland, George A. Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Simmonds, Oliver Edwin
Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n) Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) Slater, John
Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D.
Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. Milne, Charles Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)
Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsf'd) Mitchell, Harold P.(Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) Smith, Sir Jonah W. (Barrow-In-F.)
Hepworth, Joseph Molten, A. Hugh Eisdale Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Hope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston) Moreing, Adrian C. Smithers, Waldron
Hore-Bellsha, Leslie Morris-Jones. Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Somerville. D. G. (Willesden, East)
Hornby, Frank Moss, Captain H. J. Soper, Richard
Horsbrugh, Florence Muirhead, Major A. J. Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E.
Howard, Tom Forrest Munro, Patrick Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. Murray-Philipson, Hylton Ralph Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Hume, Sir George Hopwood Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Storey, Samuel
Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries) Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Strauss, Edward A,
Hunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg) North, Captain Edward T. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Hutchison, W. D. (Essex, Romford) Nunn, William Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. Pearson, William G. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.) Penny, Sir George Summersby, Charles H.
James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. Peters, Dr. Sidney John Sutcliffe, Harold
Jamieson, Douglas Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Tate, Mavis Constance
Jesson, Major Thomas E. Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bliston) Templeton, William P.
Joel, Dudley J. Barnato Pickford, Hon. Mary Ada Thompson, Luke
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Pike, Cecil F. Thorp, Linton Theodore
Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Ker, J. Campbell Power, Sir John Cecil Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Kerr, Hamilton W. Pybus, Percy John Train, John
Kimball, Lawrence Ramsay, Alexander (W. Bromwich) Turton, Robert Hugh
Knatchbull, Captain Hon. M. H. R. Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Knebworth, Viscount Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Knox, Sir Alfred Ramsbotham, Herwald Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Law, Sir Alfred Ratcliffe, Arthur Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Leckie, J. A. Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) Warrender, Sir Victor A. G.
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Reid, David D. (County Down) Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) Wells, Sydney Richard
Levy, Thomas Reid, William Allan (Derby) Weymouth, Viscount
Lindsay, Noel Ker Remer, John R. Whiteside, Borras Noel H.
Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- Renwick, Major Gustav A. Whyte, Jardine Bell
Little, Graham-, Sir Ernest Robinson, John Roland Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Lockwood, Capt. J. H. (Shipley) Ropner, Colonel L. William, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Loder, Captain J. de Vere Ross Taylor, Waiter (Woodbridge) Wills, Wilfrid D.
Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. C. G.(Partick) Runge, Norah Cecil Wise, Alfred R.
McCorquodale, M. S. Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy) Withers, Sir John James
MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Womersley, Walter James
McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Rutherford, Sir John Hugo Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
McKie, John Hamilton Salmon, Major Isidore Worthington, Dr. John V.
McLean, Major Alan Salt, Edward W. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks)
McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney)
Maitland, Adam Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Scone, Lord Captain Austin Hudson and Major
Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Selley, Harry R. George Davies.
Margesson, Capt. Henry David R. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.