§ Mr. LANSBURYCan the right hon. Gentleman the Lord President of the Council tell us what the business will be for the rest of the week, and also how far he proposes to go to-night?
§ The LORD PRESIDENT of the COUNCIL (Mr. Baldwin)With regard to the business to-day, there is a Motion on the Paper, standing in my name, to allow, contrary to Standing Order No. 15, business other than the business of Supply to be taken before Eleven o'Clock in the event of the Department of Mines Vote being agreed to before that time, and, in addition to Supply, the Government desire to obtain Order No. 2, which is the Report stage of the Ways and Means Resolution, the Committee stage of which was finished at an early hour this morning, and the two Motions standing in the name of the Chancellor of the Exchequer concerning Orders Nos. 2 and 3 made under the Import Duties Act, 1932. All these Orders are exempted business. The Government would like, if possible, to obtain Orders Nos. 3 and 4, namely, the Second Reading of the Malta Constitution Bill and the Second Reading of the Extradition Bill, both from another place. The Eleven o'Clock Rule is being suspended for the purpose of those two Orders, which are not exempted business.
With regard to the rest of the week, to-morrow (Wednesday) Supply, Committee (19th allotted day), Home Office Vote, and the Second Reading of the Irish Free State (Special Duties) Bill.
Thursday: Supply, Report (20th allotted day), Ministry of Transport Vote, and the Committee stage of the Irish Free State (Special Duties) Bill.
Friday: Irish Free State (Special Duties) Bill, remaining stages.
Normally the outstanding Votes in Committee and on Report would be put from the Chair at Ten o'clock to-morrow (Wednesday) and on Thursday, but in order to meet the convenience of the House, the Government propose to table Motions to-morrow and on Thursday to enable the Chairman of Committees and Mr. Speaker, in the event of the Votes selected for discussion being disposed of, to put the Questions in respect of outstanding Supply Votes before Ten o'clock.
252 May I remind the House, for the benefit of those who were not in the previous Parliament, that a similar Motion was put down in 1930 and 1931, the reason being that if by any chance the Supply Vote comes to an end early—it is entirely in the hands of the House, and there is no question of trying to suppress debate —the Guillotine does not fall under the Standing Orders till Ten o'clock, and therefore, under the Rules of the House, the Chairman or Mr. Speaker, whichever it be, in Committee or on the Report stage, has to put every one of the Votes singly, and they have all to be read out. There are 152 of them, and it is, therefore, a very great strain on all concerned, so that that Motion is being moved just to cover that contingency. It happened in 1929 and came as a surprise, and it was found very awkward, so that a Motion was put down by the last Government in 1930 and again in 1931, and we shall put it down to-morrow.
During the week the Government hope to make progress with the Malta Constitution Bill and the Extradition Bill, and with other outstanding business.
§ Mr. LANSBURYOn the last two Bills, the Malta Constitution Bill and the Extradition Bill, I think that in all probability we shall be able to agree about those—at least, the Second Reading—but I should like to ask the right hon. Gentleman not to ask us to sit too late to-night. I do not know what discussion there will be on the Report stage of the Money Resolution that was taken yesterday. So far as we are concerned, we propose to continue further discussion on the Second Reading and Committee stages of that Bill, and we hope very much that that would be agreed to, but with regard to the Second Reading and the Committee stages of the Irish Bill, I hope the right hon. Gentleman will, in the usual way, do his best to give us fair time to-morrow night and on Thursday to deal with those very important matters. If we were stronger, we might try to take other measures, but we all know the position that both our hon. Friends below the Gangway and ourselves are in, and we have fallen in with this arrangement, but that can only succeed if all the Members of the House help us.
§ Mr. BALDWINI quite agree. In answer to the right hon. Gentleman, I recognise the reasonableness of the case which he has put. We have no desire to 253 take advantage of the very large majority which we have, and I am sure that satisfactory arrangements can be come to by consultation through the usual channels. The length of our sittings depends upon how far Supply runs and so forth, but we have no desire to sit up unduly late to-night or to-morrow night.
§ Motion made, and Question put,
254"That this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, Business other than the Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the Clock, and that the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Baldwin.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 298; Noes, 40.
255| Division No. 279.] | AYES. | [3.51 p.m. |
| Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) | Denman, Hon. R. D. | Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) |
| Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigle M. | Denville, Alfred | Hume, Sir George Hopwood |
| Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd) | Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. | Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries) |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Dickie, John P. | Hunter. Capt. M. J. (Brigg) |
| Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. | Donner, P. W. | Hurd, Sir Percy |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent. Dover) | Dower, Captain A. V. G. | Hurst, sir Gerald B. |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel | Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. |
| Balley, Eric Alfred George | Duggan, Hubert John | James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. |
| Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. | Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) | Jesson, Major Thomas E. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Dunglass, Lord | Joel, Dudley J. Barnato |
| Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. | Eady, George H. | Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Eden, Robert Anthony | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) |
| Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) |
| Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portsm'th,C.) | Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Ker, J. Campbell |
| Belt, Sir Alfred L. | Elliston, Captain George Sampson | Kerr, Hamilton W. |
| Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest Nathaniel | Emmott, Charles E. G. C. | Kimball, Lawrence |
| Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B. | Entwistle, Cyril Fullard | Kirkpatrick, William M. |
| Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman | Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George |
| Blaker, Sir Reginald | Essenhigh, Reginald Clare | Law, Sir Alfred |
| Bossom, A. C. | Evans, R. T. (Carmarthen) | Law, Richard K. (Hull, S.W.) |
| Boulton, W. W. | Falle Sir Bertram G. | Leckie, J. A. |
| Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart | Fermoy, Lord | Leech, Dr. J. W. |
| Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton | Foot, Dingle (Dundee) | Lees-Jones, John |
| Bowyer. Capt. Sir George E. W. | Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) | Leighton, Major B. E. P. |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Sir Archibald | Fraser, Captain Ian | Lennox-Boyd, A. T. |
| Braithwaite,.J. G. (Hillsborough) | Fremantle, Sir Francis | Levy, Thomas |
| Broadbent, Colonel John | Ganzoni, Sir John | Liddall, Walter S. |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton | Lindsay, Noel Ker |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunilffe- |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks.,Newb'y) | George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) | Liewellin, Major John J. |
| Browne, Captain A. C. | Gibson, Charles Granville | Liewellyn-Jones, Frederick |
| Buchan, John | Gluckstein, Louis Halle | Lioyd, Geoffrey |
| Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. | Goff, Sir Park | Locker-Lampoon, Rt. Hn.G.(Wd.Gr'n) |
| Burnett, John George | Goldie, Noel B. | Loder, Captain J. de Vere |
| Cadogan, Hon. Edward | Goodman. Colonel Albert W. | Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. |
| Caporn, Arthur Cecil | Gower, Sir Robert | Mabane, William |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas | MacAndrew, Lt.-Col C. G. (Partick) |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Greene, William P. C. | MacAndrew, Capt..J. O. (Ayr) |
| Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City) | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | McConnell, Sir Joseph |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.) | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) |
| Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) | Grimston, R. V. | McEwen, Captain J. H. F. |
| Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) | Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. | Mc Keag, William |
| Chalmers, John Rutheiford | Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. | McKie, John Hamilton |
| Chapman. Col. R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton |
| Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh,S.) | Guy, J. C. Morrison | McLean, Major Alan |
| Chorlton, Alan Ernest Leofric | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) |
| Chotzner, Alfred James | Hales, Harold K. | Maitland, Adam |
| Christie, James Archibald | Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) | Making, Brigadier-General Ernest |
| Clarry, Reginald George | Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) | Mander, Geoffrey le M. |
| Clayton. Dr. George C. | Hanley, Dennis A. | Margesson. Capt. Henry David R. |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Marsden, Commander Arthur |
| Colville, John | Harbord, Arthur | Martin, Thomas B. |
| Conant, R. J. E. | Hartland, George A. | Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.) |
| Cook, Thomas A. | Harvey, George (Lambeth,Kenningt'n) | Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John |
| Cooke, Douglas | Haslam, Henry (Lindsay, H'ncastle) | Millar, Sir James Duncan |
| Copeland, Ida | Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. | Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) |
| Cowan, D. M. | Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. | Mills, Major.J. D. (New Forest) |
| Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry | Hepworth, Joseph | Milne, Charles |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Holdsworth, Herbert | Mitchell, Harold P,(Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) |
| Crooke, J. Smedley | Hope, Capt. Arthur O. J. (Aston) | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle) | Hope, Sydney (Chester, Staiybridge) | Mitcheson, G. G. |
| Crookshank. Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro) | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Moison, A. Hugh Eisdale |
| Crossley, A. C. | Hornby, Frank | Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres |
| Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard | Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. | Munro, Patrick |
| Cuiverwell, Cyril Tom | Horsbrugh, Florence | Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. |
| Curry, A. C. | Howard, Tom Forrest | Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset,Yeovil) | Howitt. Dr. Alfred B. | Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf' ld) |
| Davison, Sir William Henry | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | North, Captain Edward T. |
| Nunn, William | Rosbotham, S. T. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray F. |
| O'Connor, Terence James | Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart |
| Oman, Sir Charles William C. | Runge, Norah Cecil | Summersby, Charles H. |
| O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh | Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy) | Sutcliffe, Harold |
| Ormiston, Thomas | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Tate, Mavis Constance |
| Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G.A. | Russell, Hamer Field (Sheffield,B'tside) | Taylor, Vice-Admiral E.A.(P'dd'grn,S.) |
| Patrick, Colin M. | Rutherford, Sir John Hugo | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Peake, Captain Osbert | Salmon, Major Isidore | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Pearson, William G. | Salt, Edward W. | Todd, Capt. A. J. K. (B'wick-on-T.) |
| Percy, Lord Eustace | Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) | Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford) |
| Petherick, M. | Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, B'nstaple) | Sanderson, Sir Frank Barnard | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bilst'n) | savery, Samuel Servington | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Pickering, Ernest H. | Scone, Lord | Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey) |
| Pickford, Hon. Mary Ada | Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) | Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) |
| Pike, Cecil F. | Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. | Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend) |
| Potter, John | Simmonds, Oliver Edwin | Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. |
| Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. | Sinclair, Maj. Rt. H n. Sir A. (C'thness) | Watt, Captain George Steven H. |
| Pownall, Sir Assheton | Skelton, Archibald Noel | Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour- |
| Pybus, Percy John | Slater, John | Weymouth, Viscount |
| Raikes, Henry V. A. M. | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) | White, Henry Graham |
| Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.) |
| Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) | Somerset, Thomas | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Ramsden, E. | Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor) | Womersley, Walter James |
| Rathbone, Eleanor | Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E. | Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff) |
| Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham- | Spears, Brigadier-General Edward L. | Worthington, Dr. John V. |
| Reid, David D. (County Down) | Spencer, Captain Richard A. | Wragg, Herbert |
| Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) | Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H. | Young, Ernest J. (Middlesbrough, E.) |
| Reid, William Allan (Derby) | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) | |
| Reynolds, Col. Sir James Philip | Stevenson, James | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Roberts, Aled (Wrexham) | Stones, James | Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir |
| Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecciesall) | Strickland, Captain W. F. | George Penny. |
| Robinson, John Roland | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- | |
| NOES. | ||
| Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) | Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Milner, Major James |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Healy, Cahir | Parkinson, John Allen |
| Batey, Joseph | Hirst, George Henry | Price, Gabriel |
| Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) | Jenkins, Sir William | Thorne, William James |
| Buchanan, George | John, William | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Cape, Thomas | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Watts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col. David |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Kirkwood, David | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Cripps, Sir Stafford | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Williams, Edward John (Ogmore) |
| Daggar, George | Lawson, John James | Williams. Dr. John H. (Lianelly) |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Logan, David Gilbert | Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley) |
| Edwards, Charles | Lunn, William | |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. | Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Granfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) | McEntee, Valentine L. | Mr. Duncan Graham and Mr.Groves |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | |
| Grundy, Thomas W. | Maxton, James |