HC Deb 21 September 1931 vol 256 cc1391-409
The CHAIRMAN

One or two manuscript Amendments have been handed in and the first one I propose to select is an Amendment standing in the name of the hon. Member for East Leicester (Mr. Wise). He will have to snake a slight alteration in it in order to bring it into order. He will have to have the word "included," and I must also ask him to omit the words "and on foreign trade" at the end of his proposed Amendment as those words would make it out of order.

Mr. WISE

I beg to move, in page 2, line 2, at the end, to insert the words: including the control of the banks and of foreign securities and foreign balances owned or controlled by British banks or British subjects. I have moved the Amendment in accordance with your Ruling. The Subsection will read now in this way: (3) It shall be lawful for the Treasury to make, and from time to time vary, orders authorising the taking of such measures in relation to the exchanges and otherwise as they may consider expedient for meeting difficulties arising in connection with the suspension of the Gold Standard, including the control of the banks, of foreign securities and foreign balances owned or controlled by British banks or British subjects. The purpose of the Amendment is to define more closely and more definitely the powers which we think will have to be exercised if this Bill is to be made effective. The whole course of this crisis has been marked by attempts, which have been too late on the part of the Government to take steps to deal with events partly caused by them and partly out of their control, and the procedure laid down in this Bill we believe will be quite insufficient to deal with the present situation. As I understand the speech made earlier by the Financial Secretary this Sub-section only gives the Treasury power to make inquiries. The whole Clause is nebulous and general in its meaning, and as far as we can see, and as far as it has been explained by the Government, it will not give anything like sufficient power to control that flight from the pound, which may not be stopped, but which may be accelerated by the expectation that now that the pound is off the Gold Standard it may go to a comparatively low figure—a supposition, a belief, a fear which has been largely created by the speeches of right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite. All the more so as in the course of the Debate to-day, so far as I am aware, no kind of indication has been given from the Treasury Bench as to the kind of policy, the kind of objective in regard to exchange, the sort of principles they propose to apply. In this uncertainty, in this extremely grave situation, it is absolutely vital, if any check is to be kept over the pound, that the strongest and widest powers should be taken.

The present difficulty in which we have landed ourselves is admittedly due largely to the action of the banks in rightly or wrongly utilising credits, balances withdrawable at will, for credits which have in fact become frozen in Germany and elsewhere. The banks have got the country into this situation. The policy of the Bank of England and the other banking houses, their mismanagement of the multiple responsibilities that fall upon them, has landed us in this situation. As the Prime Minister and the Chancellor said, and as was stated in the Memorandum issued by the Treasury this morning, it is not due to any inherent financial weakness in the structure of this country. It certainly is not due to any of the causes which hon. Members were proclaiming a week ago—unemployment and things of that sort.

Our purpose is to secure an effective control of the banks so that control of the exchange may be made effective, it is notorious that there are many methods which can be utilised for removing balances and capital from this country to places abroad. The course of events in the last few months in other countries has shown how completely ineffective mere abjurations are in preventing the flight from a currency if it becomes to the profit of individuals and commercial firms to put their balances and capital abroad. It is not merely in the actual transfer of pounds into dollars. This country is engaged from day to day in elaborate trading operations which provide dollar and other exchanges for the benefit of commercial firms who export or are engaged in other operations. If an effective control is to be kept over the value of the pound sterling, if it is not to be completely unstable, it is essential that not only unnecessary transfers from pounds into dollars or into francs or whatever currency may in the course of a few weeks remain stable—it is very uncertain which will do so—it is essential not only that these transfers should be prevented, but it is equally vital that all available foreign currency coming into the possession of British firms and British nationals should be available to the Treasury or whoever is controlling the exchange operations, to balance the exchanges. Otherwise capital will be exported abroad in the very simple manner of retaining abroad pounds which otherwise would come back through commercial operations, arising from the sale of goods and otherwise. Experience elsewhere has shown how absolutely essential that is.

Moreover, again we must not overlook the fact that the British banks have got us into this position largely because measures of control and supervision which are operative in other countries are not operative here. In the United States, that home and blissful heaven as it used to be to all defenders of the capitalist system, the banks are under much closer control than the banks in the City of London. The sort of operations which London banks have entered upon in the last few months would at any rate be checked and controlled in New York State by the supervision of the Commissioner of Banks, and in France and Germany very considerable measures of control over the banking system are in operation. Only in the last two or three days in Germany that control has been much more effective, much more elastic, and much more comprehensive. We in this country, as the events of the last few weeks have shown, are even more dependent upon effective control being kept over the operations of the banking machine so as to bring it into line with the necessities of national policy, than is Germany, and any supposition that exchange can be controlled by mere abjurations to patriotism, of which we have had several in the last two or three weeks, or by mere vague phrases such as appear in this Bill, I am convinced will be absolutely rebuffed by events.

Then take the question of foreign securities. In the course of the last six months, in the first six months of this year, despite the evidence, mounting all the time, that we had no surplus capital for investment abroad, in spite of any check of the Bank of England, according to the "Economist" no less than £44,000,000 of new issues were floated in London. Last year, at a maximum amount, we had a balance available for foreign issues of about £39,000,000. The "Economist" and others have calculated a deficiency of about £100,000,000 on the balance of trade this year. It is almost incredible, if the Bank of England was fully aware of what was happening in regard to the pound exchange, if it had any conception of what was happening, that it should have permitted that amount of foreign issues in London in those circumstances. We want to secure in that respect also that there is a really effective control on behalf of the Government of this country and this House over foreign issues.

Then also in regard to foreign securities held by British nationals and British corporations, dollar and other securities which we say ought to have been mobilised weeks ago for the protection of the exchange and the interests of this country. According to calculations made by the "Economist," and not challenged so far as I know, British nationals and corporations in this country hold something in the neighbourhood of £4,000,000,000 of foreign securities. It is admitted that the present value of those securities has considerably declined. The calculation was that at the beginning of August they were worth something in the neighbourhood of £3,000,000,000. Possibly now they are worth only £2,000,000,000. Included in that total was quite a considerable amount of American and dollar securities. It is plain that if the Treasury is to prevent the pound sterling, because of panics or for other reasons, running down to the degree contemplated by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for St. Ives (Mr. Runciman) and other hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite two or three weeks ago, this country ought to have as effective a control of the foreign securities in the possession of its nationals as it had during the War. This afternoon, in reply to a question, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said that now, at long last, the Government were giving proper consideration to the question of the mobilisation of foreign securities. They ought to have done it weeks ago, and we propose to give them power in this Bill to do it now.

The same remarks apply to foreign balances belonging to London banks and other London institutions. The present crisis was precipitated by the withdrawal of short term balances held in London by foreign banks. It is well known that London banks still hold very considerable short term balances in Continental and American banks. How far those balances have been diminished by recent events nobody knows. I doubt whether the Treasury know—in fact I am sure they do not know. I doubt whether the Bank of England know. It is all part of this extraordinary situation in which we leave the City of London complete and uncontrolled power to ruin the industry of this country if it pleases, or if it makes mistakes of the sort which clearly have been made in the last few weeks. When the country is called upon to endure hardships and submit to danger in order to rescue the banks in the situation into which they have brought themselves and the country, at any rate the first thing to be done is to mobilise, for the protection of the banks and their business prestige, the resources which they themselves possess. These ought to have been brought into the balance at the start; and any other measures found necessary ought to have come later.

I cannot argue the snore comprehensive case contemplated by the words in relation to foreign trade which have been ruled out. It is sufficient at this stage to say that, if we are to get any grip over our own financial situation, if we are to be masters in our own house and not subjects either to the humiliating bullying of New York and Paris, or the ineptitude and mistakes of the City of London, then we must obtain effective control of the banking machine, and the real financial resources of this country and use them as they ought to be used for the common interest.

Major ELLIOT

I think that the hon. Member who moved the addition of these words has forgotten his own Civil Service experience. From his wide experience he surely knows that the inclusion of words is one of the most familiar devices for limiting orders. He says that the wording in the Bill is not sufficiently wide and he suggests widening it by the inclusion of certain words, but he knows as well as I do that the inclusion of words is just one of the ways in which an order of this kind can be limited. Let me read the words of the Bill: It shall be lawful for the Treasury to make, and from time to time vary, orders authorising the taking of such measures in relation to the exchanges and otherwise as they may consider expedient for meeting difficulties arising in connection with the suspension of the Gold Standard. In the first place, the Treasury has power to take all the measures that they consider expedient in relation to the exchange and otherwise, and then they have power to take all the other measures that they require. I submit that the addition of the words suggested is not necessary, and furthermore that they would have possibly a limiting effect. I am not now engaged in arguing the case put forward as to the necessity for the control of foreign balances, the machinery for the control of foreign balances, or how this can be done. I am arguing that in fact, as the hon. Member knows well, if the will to do them is not there, it is no use putting machinery into the Bill.

Mr. SANDHAM

What a confession!

Major ELLIOT

The will to do everything that is necessary is present, but the hon. Member, as he knows well, by no form of words can put will or initiative into an Act. Initiative only comes from those administering the Act. The initiative is there, the machinery is adequate, and I suggest that the words proposed by the hon. Member are not merely unnecessary but are absolutely limiting.

Dr. ADDISON

I submit that the hon. and gallant Member the Financial Secretary has not met the point. In the first place, that argument that he suggested with regard to the words "and otherwise" will not do, because the words "and otherwise" are related to what goes

before; they are related to the measures in relation to the exchange, and I have been told a vast number of times in Committee upstairs, and otherwise, that those words would stand in relation to the exchange. I think the jargon is "ejusdem generis." Therefore, they would not cover the point put by my horn Friend. The next thing is that the hon. and gallant Member says the powers are there and that if you add these words you will limit the Bill. I think we are quite willing to take our risk of that. I put the point to the hon. and gallant Member and asked for an assurance two or three times, and I did so because of my own personal experience of how the matter was dealt with during the War, but he gave an evasive answer every time and said he would inquire. It is essential, if this matter is to be handled firmly and properly, that these powers should be taken, and, therefore, I hope that every hon. Member who supports public and rational control of our finances and the taking of them out of the hands of the men who have made the most unspeakable mess of them, will vote for the Amendment.

Sir B. EYRES MONSELL

rose in his place, and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."

Question put, "That the Question be now put."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 276; Noes, 191.

Division No. 483.] AYES. [10.25 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut-Colonel Boyce, Leslie Clydesdale, Marquess of
Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles Bracken, B. Cobb, Sir Cyril
Albery, Irving James Briscoe, Richard George Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Broadbent, Colonel J. Colfox, Major William Philip
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l.,w.) Brown, Ernest (Leith) Colman, N. C. D.
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks,Newb'y) Colville, Major D. J.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Buchan, John Conway, Sir W. Martin
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J.(Kent, Dover) Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Cooper, A. Duff
Astor, Viscountess Bullock, Captain Malcolm Courtauld, Major J. S.
Atholl, Duchess of Burgin, Dr. E, L. Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L.
Atkinson, C. Burton, Colonel H. W. Cowan, D. M.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Butler, R. A. Cranborne, Viscount
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Butt, Sir Alfred Crichton-Stuart, Lord C.
Balfour, Captain H. H. (I. of Thanet) Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H.
Balniel, Lord Campbell, E. T. Crookshank, Capt. H. C.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Carver, Major W. H. Croom-Johnson, R. P.
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Castle Stewart, Earl of Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West)
Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Cautley, Sir Henry S. Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip
Berry, Sir George Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth,S.) Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey
Betterton, Sir Henry B. Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford)
Bevan, S. J. (Holborn) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Davies, Dr. Vernon
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Chadwick, Capt. Sir Robert Burton Davies, E. C. (Montgomery)
Birkett, W. Norman Chamberlain, Rt.Hn. Sir J.A.(Blrm.,W.) Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset,Yeovil)
Blindell, James Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.)
Boothby, R. J. G. Chapman, Sir S. Dawson, Sir Philip
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Christie, J. A. Denman, Hon. R. D.
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. Church, Major A. G. Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F.
Dixey, A. C. Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Ramsay, T. B. Wilson
Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Jones, Rt. Hon Lelf (Camborne) Ramsbotham, H.
Duckworth, G. A. V. Jowitt, Rt. Hon. Sir W. A. (Preston) Rathbone, Eleanor
Dudgeon, Major C. R. Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) Rawson, Sir Cooper
Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Kindersley, Major G. M. Remer, John R.
Eden, Captain Anthony Knight, Holford Reynolds, Col. Sir James
Edge, Sir William Knox, Sir Alfred Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Edmondson, Major A. J. Lamb, Sir J. Q. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Elliot, Major Walter E. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall)
England, Colonel A. Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes, Stretford)
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.M.) Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Everard, W. Lindsay Leighton, Major B. E. P. Rosbotham, D. S. T.
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Ross, Ronald D.
Ferguson, Sir John Little, Graham-, Sir Ernest Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E.
Fielden, E. B. Llewellin, Major J. J. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Fison, F. G. Clavering Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Salmon, Major I.
Foot, Isaac Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Ford, Sir P. J. Long, Major Hon. Eric Samuel Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Lymington, Viscount Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Galbraith, J. F. W. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Savery, S. S.
Ganzoni, Sir John MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Macdonald, Sir M. (Inverness) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. ot W.) Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (Caithness)
George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfast)
Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) Macphereon, Rt. Hon. James I. Skelton, A. N.
Gillett, George M. Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Makins, Brigadier-General E. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Glassey, A. E. Mander, Geoffrey le M. Smithers, Waldron
Glyn, Major R. G. C. Margesson, Captain H. D. Somerset, Thomas
Gower, Sir Robert Marjoribanks, Edward Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Markham, S. F. Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)
Granville, E. Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Meller, R. J. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Gray, Milner Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter Millar, J. D. Stanley, Hon. O. (Westmorland)
Greene, W. P. Crawford Milne, Wardlaw-. J. S. Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro'W.) Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Gritten. W. G. Howard Morris, Rhys Hopkins Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Gunston, Captain D. W. Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Thompson, Luke
Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Thomson, Sir F.
Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Muirhead, A. J. Todd, Capt. A. J.
Hammersley, S. S. Nail-Cain, A. R. N. Train, J.
Hanbury, C. Nathan, Major H. L. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Turton, Robert Hugh
Harbord, A. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Hartington, Marquess of Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert
Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn.W.G. (Ptsf'Id) Wells, Sydney R.
Henderson, Capt. R. R.(Oxf'd,Henley) O'Connor, T. J. White, H. G.
Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Oman, Sir Charles William C. Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.)
Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Hore-Belisha, Leslie. Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Penny, Sir George Withers, Sir John James
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Perkins, W. R. D. Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Peters, Dr. Sidney John Womersley, W. J.
Hurd, Percy A. Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. Power, Sir John Cecil Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Inskip, Sir Thomas Pownall, Sir Assheton Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Iveagh, Countess of Preston, Sir Walter Rueben.
Jones, Llewellyn-, F. Purbrick, R. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Pybus, Percy John Sir Victor Warrender and Viscount Elmley.
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Daggar, George
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Broad, Francis Alfred Dallas, George
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Brockway, A. Fenner Dalton, Hugh
Alpass, J. H. Bromfield, William Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd)
Ammon, Charles George Bromley, J. Day, Harry
Arnott, John Brothers, M. Dukes, C.
Attlee, Clement Richard Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Duncan, Charles
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bliston) Cameron, A. G. Dunnico, H.
Barnes, Alfred John Cape, Thomas Ede- James Chuter
Barr, James Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty)
Batey, Joseph Chater, Daniel Egan, W. H.
Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) Cluse, W. S. Freeman, Peter
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Cocks, Frederick Seymour. Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton)
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Compton, Joseph Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.)
Bowen, J. W. Cripps, Sir Stafford Gibbins, Joseph
Gibson, H. M. (Lanes, Mossley) Logan, David Gilbert Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Gill, T. H. Long bottom, A. W. Shillaker, J. F.
Gossling, A. G. Lun[...] William Shinwell, E.
Gould, F. Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) McElwee, A. Simmons, C. J.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) McEntee, V. L. Sinkinson, George
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
Grundy, Thomas W. MacNeill-Weir, L. Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) McShane, John James Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) Manning, E. L. Sorensen, R.
Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Mansfield, W. Stephen, Campbell
Hall, Capt. W. P. (Portsmouth, C.) Mathers, George Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
Hardie, David (Rutherglen) Middleton, G. Strauss, G. R.
Hardie, G. D. (Springburn) Mills, J. E. Sutton, J. E.
Hastings, Dr. Somerville Milner, Major J. Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Haycock, A. W. Morgan, Dr. H. B. Thorne, w. (West Ham, Plalstow)
Hayday, Arthur Morley, Ralph Thurtle, Ernest
Hayes, John Henry Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Tillett, Ben
Henderson, Joseph (Ardwick) Mort, D. L. Tinker, John Joseph
Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) Muff, G. Tout, W. J.
Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) Muggeridge, H. T. Townend, A. E.
Herriotts, J. Murnin, Hugh Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Hicks, Ernest George Naylor, T. E. Turner, Sir Ben
Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Vaughan, David
Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Viant, S. P.
Hoffman, P. C. Palin, John Henry Walkden, A. G.
Hopkin, Daniel Paling, Wilfrid Wallace, H. W.
Horrabin, J. F. Palmer, E. T. Watkins, F. C.
Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Isaacs, George Pethick- Lawrence, F. W. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Jenkins, Sir William Picton-Turbervill, Edith Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
John, William (Rhondda, West) Potts, John S. Wellock, Wilfred
Jones, J, J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Price, M. P. Welsh, James (Paisley)
Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Richards, R. Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge)
Kelly, W. T. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Whiteley, Wilfrid (Blrm., Ladywood)
Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) Whiteley, William (Blaydon)
Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Kinley, J. Ritson, J. Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Kirkwood, D. Romeril, H. G. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Lang, Gordon Rowson, Guy Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Salter, Dr. Alfred Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Lathan, G. (Sheffield, Park) Samuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West) Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Law, A. (Rossendale) Sanders, W. S. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) Sandham, E. Winterton, G. E.(Leicester,Loughb'gh)
Lawson, John James Scurr, John Wise, E. F.
Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) Sextan, Sir James Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Leach, W, Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) Shepherd, Arthur Lewis TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) Sherwood, G. H. Mr. B. Smith and Mr. Charleton.
Lewis, T. (Southampton) Shield, George William

Question put accordingly, "That those words be there inserted."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 191; Noes, 280.

Division No. 484.] AYES. [10.34 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Compton, Joseph Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Cripps, Sir Stafford Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.)
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Daggar, George Hardie, David (Rutherglen)
Alpass, J. H. Dallas, George Hardie, G. D. (Springburn)
Ammon, Charles George Dalton, Hugh Hastings, Dr. Somerville
Arnott, John Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd) Haycock, A. W.
Attlee, Clement Richard Day, Harry Hayday, Arthur
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bliston) Dukes, C. Hayes, John Henry
Barnes, Alfred John Duncan, Charles Henderson, Joseph (Ardwick)
Barr, James Dunnico, H. Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow)
Batey, Joseph Ede, James Chuter Herriotts, J.
Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Hicks, Ernest George
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Egan, W. H. Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth)
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Freeman, Peter Hirst, W. (Bradford, South)
Bowen, J. W. Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) Hoffman, P. C.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) Hopkin, Daniel
Broad, Francis Alfred Gibbins, Joseph Horrabin, J. F.
Brockway, A. Fenner Gibson, H. M. (Lanes, Mossley) Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield)
Bromfield, William Gill, T. H. Isaacs, George
Bromley, J. Gossling, A. G. Jenkins, Sir William
Brothers, M. Gould, F. John, William (Rhondda, West)
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) Jones, J. J. (West Ham. Silvertown)
Cameron, A. G. Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)
Cape, Thomas Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Kelly, W. T.
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Grundy, Thomas W. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Cluse, W. S. Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M.
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Kinley, J.
Kirkwood, D Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Strauss, G. R.
Lang, Gordon Palin, John Henry Sutton, J. E.
Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Paling, Wilfrid Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Lathan, G. (Sheffield, Park) Palmer, E. T. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Law, A. (Rossendale) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Thurtle, Ernest
Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Tillett, Ben
Lawson, John James Picton-Turbervill, Edith Tinker, John Joseph
Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) Potts, John S. Tout, W. J.
Leach, w. Price, M. P. Townend, A. E.
Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) Turner, Sir Ben
Lewis, T. (Southampton) Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) Vaughan, David
Lloyd, C. Ellis Ritson, J. Viant, S. P.
Logan, David Gilbert Romeril, H. G. Walkden, A. G.
Longbottom, A. W. Rowson, Guy Wallace, H. W.
Lunn, William Salter, Dr. Alfred Watkins, F. C.
Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Samuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
McEntee, V. L. Sanders, W. S. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
MacLaren, Andrew Sandham, E. Wellock, Wilfred
Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Scurr, John Welsh, James (Paisley)
MacNaill-Weir, L. Sexton, Sir James Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge)
McShane, John James Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Proton) Westwood, Joseph
Manning, E L. Shepherd, Arthur Lewis Whiteley, Wilfrid (Blrm., Ladywood)
Mansfield, W. Sherwood, G. H. Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Mathers, George Shield, George William Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Middleton, G. Shiels, Dr. Drummond Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Mills, J. E. Shillaker, J. F. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Milner, Major J, Shinwell, E. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Morgan Dr. H. B. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Morley, Ralph Simmons, C. J. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Sinkinson, George Winterton, G. E.(Leicester,Loughb'gh)
Mort, D. L. Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) Wise, E. F.
Muff, G. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Muggeridge, H. T. Smith, Tom (Pontefract) Young, Sir R. (Lancaster, Newton)
Murnin, Hugh Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Naylor, T. E. Sorensen, R. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Stephen, Campbell Mr. William Whiteley and Mr. Charleton.
Oldfield, J. R. Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Castle Stewart, Earl of Dugdale, Capt. T. L.
Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles Cautley, Sir Henry S. Eden, Captain Anthony
Albery, Irving James Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth.S.) Edge, Sir William
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Edmondson, Major A. J.
Allan, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l.,w.) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Elliot, Major Walter E.
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Chadwick, Capt. Sir Robert Burton England, Colonel A.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Chamberlain,Rt.Hn.Sir J.A.(Blrm.,W.) Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-S.M.)
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Everard, W. Lindsay
Astor, Viscountess Chapman, Sir S. Falle, Sir Bertram G.
Atholl, Duchess of Christie, J. A. Ferquson, Sir John
Atkinson, C. Church, Major A. G. Fielden, E. B.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Fison, F. G. Clavering
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Clydesdale, Marquess of Foot, Isaac
Balfour, Captain H. H, (I. of Thanet) Cobb, Sir Cyril Ford, Sir P. J.
Balniel, Lord Cockcrill, Brig.-General Sir George Forestier-Walker, Sir L.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T, P. H. Colfox, Major William Philip Forgan, Dr. Robert
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Colman, N. C. D. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.
Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Colville, Major D. J. Galbraith, J. F. W.
Berry, Sir George Conway, Sir W. Martin Ganzoni, Sir John
Betterton, Sir Henry B. Cooper, A. Duff Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton
Bevan, S. J. (Holborn) Courtauld, Major J. S. George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke)
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea)
Birkett, W. Norman Cowan, D. M. Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley)
Blindell, James Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Gillett, George M.
Boothby, R. J. G. Cranborne, Viscount Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Glassey, A. E.
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Glyn Major R. G. C.
Boyce, Leslie Croom-Johnson, R. P Gower, Sir Robert
Bracken, B. Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.)
Briscoe, Richard George Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Granville, E.
Broadbent, Colonel J. Dalrample-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Gray, Milner
Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) Davies, Dr. Vernon Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter
Buchan, John Davies, E. C. (Montgomery) Greene, W. P. Crawford
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London)
Bullock, Captain Malcolm Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John
Burgin, Dr. E. L. Dawson, Sir Philip Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro'W.)
Burton, Colonel H. W. Denman, Hon. R. D. Gritten, W. G. Howard
Butler, R. A. Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Gunston, Captain D. W.
Butt, Sir Alfred Dixey, A. C. Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)
Campbell, E. T. Duckworth, G. A. V. Hamilton, Sir George (llford)
Carver, Major W. H. Dudgeon, Major C. R. Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland)
Hammersley, S. S. Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Hanbury, C. Meller, R. J. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Saesoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Harbord, A. Millar, J. D. Savery, S. S.
Hartington, Marquess of Milne, Wardlaw-, J. S. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
Harvey, Malar S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Henderson, Capt. R.R.(Oxf'd, Henley) MonselI, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Simon, Rt. Hon, Sir John
Heneage, Lieut. Colonel Arthur P. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (Caithness)
Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Morris, Rhys Hopkins Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfst)
Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Skelton, A. N.
Hore-Belisha, Leslie Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Money, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) Smithers, Waldron
Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Muirhead, A. J. Somerset, Thomas
Hard, Percy A. Nail-Cain, A. R. N. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. Nathan, Major H. L. Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)
Inskip, Sir Thomas Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Iveagh, Countess of Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Jones, Llewellyn-, F. Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G.(Ptrsl'ld) Stanley, Hon. O. (Westmorland)
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) O'Connor, T. J. Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Jowitt, Rt. Hon. Sir W. A. (Preston) Oman, Sir Charles William C. Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Kindersley, Major G. M. Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Knight, Holford Penny, Sir George Thompson, Luke
Knox, Sir Alfred Perkins, W. R. D. Thomson, Sir F.
Lamb, Sir J. Q. Peters, Dr. Sidney John Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Power, Sir John Cecil Todd, Capt. A. J.
Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) Pownall, Sir Assheton Train, J.
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Preston, Sir Walter Rueben. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Purbrick, R. Turton, Robert Hugh
Little, Graham-, Sir Ernest Pybus, Percy John Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Llewellin, Major J. J, Ramsay, T. B. Wilson Ward, Lieut-Col. Sir A Lambert
Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon, Godfrey Ramsbotham, H. Wells, Sydney R.
Locker- Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th) Rathbone, Eleanor White, H. G.
Long, Major Hon. Eric Rawson, Sir Cooper Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Remer, John R. Wilson, G. H. A (Cambridge U.)
Lymington, Viscount Reynolds, Col. Sir James Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'te'y) Withers, Sir John James
Macdonald, Sir M. (Inverness) Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes, Stretford) Womersley, W. J.
Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Rosbotham, D. S. T. Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Ross, Ronald D. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Makins, Brigadier General E. Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E.
Mander, Geoffrey le M, Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Margesson, Captain H. D. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Sir Victor Warrender and Viscount Elmley.
Marjoribanks, Edward Salmon, Major I.
Markham, S. F. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Several HON. MEMBERS

rose—

Whereupon Sir B. EYRES MONSELL rose in his place, and claimed that the Question, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill," be put.

Question put accordingly, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

Mr. COCKS

[seated and covered]: On a point of Order. May I call your attention, Sir Dennis, to the fact that, before you put the Question, my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Central

Hull (Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy) rose to speak; and may I ask you, therefore, as the guardian of our liberties when a Member rises to speak, not to accept the Closure, under the Standing Orders of this House?

The CHAIRMAN

The hon. Member, I gather, questions some discretion or action of mine. I think my action is quite in order.

The Committee divided: Ayes, 277; Noes, 12.

Division No. 485.] AYES. [10.45 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Atholl, Duchess of Berry, Sir George
Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles Atkinson, C. Betterton, Sir Henry B.
Albery, Irving James Ballile-Hamilton, Hon Charles W. Bevan, S. J. (Holborn)
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Balfour, George (Hampstead) Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman
Allen, Sir J.Sandeman (Liverp'l., W.) Balfour, Captain H. H. (I. of Thanet) Birkett, W. Norman
Allen, Llt-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Balniel, Lord Blindell, James
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Boothby, R. J. G.
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J.(Kent, Dover) Bellairs, Commander Cartyon Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart
Astor, Viscountess Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Bowyer, Captain Sir George E.
Boyce, Leslie Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W.G. (Ptrsf'ld)
Bracken, B. Granville, E. O'Connor, T. J.
Briscoe, Richard George Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley)
Broadbent, Colonel J. Gray, Milner Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) Greene, W. P. Crawford Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon)
Buchan, John Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Penny, Sir George
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Perkins, W. R. D.
Bullock, Captain Malcolm Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro W.) Peters, Dr. Sidney John
Burgin, Dr. E. L. Gritten, W. G. Howard Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Burton, Colonel H. W. Gunston, Captain D. W. Power, Sir John Cecil
Butler, R. A. Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Pownall, Sir Assheton
Butt, Sir Alfred Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Preston, Sir Walter Rueben
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Purbrick, R.
Campbell, E. T. Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Pybus, Percy John
Carver, Major W. H. Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Ramsay, T. B. Wilson
Castle Stewart, Earl of Hammersley, S. S. Ramsbotham, H.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Hanbury, C. Rathbone, Eleanor
Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth,S.) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Rawson, Sir Cooper
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Harbord, A. Reiner, John R.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Hartington, Marquess of Reynolds, Col. Sir James
Chadwick, Capt. Sir Robert Burton Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Chamberlain, Rt.Hn.Sir J. A.(Blrm.,W.) Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd,Henley) Richardson, Sir p. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall)
Chapman, Sir S. Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Robinson. Sir T. (Lancs, Stratford)
Christie, J. A. Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Church, Major A. G. Hore-Belisha, Leslie Rosbotham. D. S. T.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Ross, Ronald D.
Clydesdale, Marquess of Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney,N.) Ruggies-Brise, Colonel E.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Runciman. Rt. Hon. Walter
Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George Hurd, Percy A. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Colfox, Major William Philip Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. Salmon, Major I.
Colman, N. C. D. Inskip, Sir Thomas Samuel, A. M. (Surrey. Farnham)
Colville, Major D. J. Iveagh, Countess of Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Conway, Sir W. Martin Jones, Llewellyn-, F. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Courtauld, Major J. S. Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Savery, S. S.
Cowan, D. M. Jones, Rt. Hon. Lelf (Camborne) Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
Cranborne, Viscount Jowitt, Rt. Hon. Sir W. A. (Preston) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Croft. Brigadier-General Sir H. Kindersley, Major G. M. Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (Caithness)
Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Knight, Holford Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfast)
Croom-Johnson, R. P. Knox, Sir Alfred Skelton, A. N.
Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Lamb, Sir J. Q. Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Dalrample-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Lane Fox, Cot. Rt. Hon. George R. Smithers, Waldron
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) Somerset, Thomas
Davies, Dr. Vernon Leighton. Major B. E. P. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Davies, E. C. (Montgomery) Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)
Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) Little, Graham-, Sir Ernest Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Llewellin, Major J. J. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Dawson, Sir Philip Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Denman, Hon. R. D. Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th) Stanley, Hon. O. (Westmorland)
Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Long, Major Hon. Eric Stewart, W. J. (Belfast, South)
Dixey, A. C. Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Lymington, Viscount Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Duckworth, G. A. V. MacDonald. Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Dudgeon, Major C. R. MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Thomas. Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Macdonald, Sir M. (Inverness) Thompson, Luke
Eden, Captain Anthony Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Thomson, Sir F.
Edge, Sir William Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Edmondson, Major A. J. Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Elmley, Viscount Makins, Brigadier-General E. Todd, Capt. A. J.
England, Colonel A. Mander, Geoffrey le M. Train, J.
Erskine, Lord (Somerset,Weston-s.-M.) Marjoribanks, Edward Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement.
Everard, W. Lindsay Markham, S. F. Turton, Robert Hugh
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Ferguson, Sir John Meller, R. J. Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert
Fielden, E. B. Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Warrender, Sir Victor
Fison, F. G. Clavering Millar. J. D. Wells, Sydney R.
Foot, Isaac Milne, Wardlaw-, J. S. White, H. G.
Ford, Sir P. J. Mitchell. Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Williams. Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.)
Forgan, Dr. Robert Morris, Rhys Hopkins Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Galbraith, J. F. W. Morris-Jones, Or. J. H. (Denbigh) Winterton, Pt. Hon. Earl
Ganzoni, Sir John Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Withers, Sir John James
Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Mosley. Sir Oswald (Smethwick) Womersley, W. J.
George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) Muirhead, A. J. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) Nail-Cain, A. R. N. Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Gillett, George M. Nathan, Major H. L. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Glyn, Major R. G. C. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Sower, Sir Robert Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Captain Margesson and Mr. Glassey.
NOES.
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Kelly, W. T. Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
Bromley, J. Richardson, B. (Houghton-le-Spring) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Sandham, E.
Ede, James Chuter Simmons, C. J. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Groves, Thomas E. Stephen, Campbell Mr. Beckett and Mr. Kinley.

Question, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill," put accordingly, and agreed to.