HC Deb 03 March 1931 vol 249 cc206-11
Mr. STANLEY BALDWIN

May I ask the Prime Minister what business he proposes to take to-night, in the event of the Motion which stands in his name on the Order Paper being carried?

The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Ramsay MacDonald)

The Government propose to ask the House to take the first four Orders of the Day, down to and including Supply [26th February] Report. I believe that at least two are non-contentious.

Sir WILLIAM MITCHELL -THOMSON

Does the right hon. Gentleman, in proposing that the House should take Orders 2, 3 and 4, relating to Supply, realise that one of the Votes included, namely, Vote 9 of Class 7 (Public Buildings, Overseas), was put off from discussion in Committee in order to meet the, convenience of the First Commissioner of Works; and that, with regard to Vote 6 of Class 6 (Mines Department), the Secretary for Mines has just told the House that he proposes on that Vote to make a long and complicated statement; and may I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether, in these circumstances, he really desires to take Supply at Eleven o'Clock?

The PRIME MINISTER

As it happens, the two Votes which the right hon. Baronet has mentioned are those that I have in mind, but I do not think it would be impossible to get those through. We have no intention of having what is called an all-night sitting, and I am sure that, with helpfulness on both sides, the greater part of this programme can be got through.

Sir W. MITCHELL-THOMSON

Does the right hon. Gentleman consider that suggestion to be reasonable in the circumstances? With regard to the first of these Votes—that for the Washington Embassy—it was to meet the convenience of the First Commissioner of Works that the discussion was postponed. It is quite true that the right hon. Gentleman said that he could not give an absolute pledge, but he said he would make representations to the Patronage Secretary so that the matter could be discussed at the proper time. The other Vote, when it

came before the Committee, excited a good deal of criticism in every quarter, and was challenged, and the Secretary for Mines now tells the House that he proposes himself to introduce the Supplementary Estimate on Report and to make what he called a long and complicated statement on the matter.

The PRIME MINISTER

I am very sorry that I did not hear the statement of my hon. Friend, but I am assured by the Patronage Secretary that it is reasonable to ask that these two Votes should be taken to-night.

Commander BELLAIRS

Is the former Minister for Education going to make a personal explanation of the grounds for his resignation?

The PRIME MINISTER

That is not my affair.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 247; Noes, 126.

Division No. 175.] AYES. [3.36 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Cripps, Sir Stafford Haycock, A. W.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Daggar, George Hayday, Arthur
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Dallas, George Hayes, John Henry
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigle M. Dalton, Hugh Henderson, Arthur, Junr. (Cardiff, S.)
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow)
Alpass, J. H. Day, Harry Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield)
Ammon, Charles George Denman, Hon. R. D. Herriotts, J.
Arnott, John Dudgeon, Major C. R. Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth)
Aske, Sir Robert Dukes, C. Hirst, W. (Bradford, South)
Ayles, Walter Duncan, Charles Hoffman, P. C.
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bliston) Ede, James Chuter Hollins, A.
Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley) Edmunds, J. E. Hopkin, Daniel
Barnes, Alfred John Egan, W. H. Hore-Belisha, Leslie
Batey, Joseph Elmley, Viscount Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield)
Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) Foot, Isaac Hunter, Dr. Joseph
Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Freeman, Peter Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R.
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) Isaacs, George
Benson, G. George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) Johnston, Thomas
Blindell, James Gibbins, Joseph Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth)
Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret Gill, T. H. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)
Bowen, J. W. Gillett, George M. Jones, Rt. Hon. Lelf (Camborne)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Glassey, A. E. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)
Broad, Francis Alfred Gossling, A. G. Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Brooke, W. Gould, F. Jowitt, Sir W. A. (Preston)
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford)
Buchanan, G. Granville, E. Kelly, W. T.
Burgess, F. G. Gray, Milner Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Burgin, Dr. E. L. Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M.
Buxton, C. R. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro'W.) Kinley, J.
Cameron, A. G. Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Kirkwood, D.
Cape, Thomas Groves, Thomas E. Knight, Holford
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Grundy, Thomas W. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton)
Charleton, H. C. Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Lang, Gordon
Chater, Daniel Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George
Cluse, W. S. Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Lathan, G.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Law, Albert (Bolton)
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) Law, A. (Rossendale)
Compton, Joseph Hardle, George D. Lawrence, Susan
Cove, William G. Hastings, Dr. Somerville Lawson, John James
Leach, W. Muggeridge, H. T. Simmons, C. J.
Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) Murnin, Hugh Simon, E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington)
Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) Naylor, T. E. Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness)
Lees, J. Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)
Lewis, T. (Southampton) Oldfield, J. R. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
Lloyd, C. Ellis Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Logan, David Gilbert Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Longbottom, A. W. Owen, H. F. (Hereford) Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Longden, F. Palin, John Henry Snell, Harry
Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Paling, Wilfrid Snowden, Thomas (Accrington)
Lowth, Thomas Perry, S. F. Sorensen, R.
Lunn, William Peters, Dr. Sidney John Stamford, Thomas W.
Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Stephen, Campbell
MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Picton-Turbervill, Edith Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
McElwee, A. Pole, Major D. G. Strauss, G. R.
McEntee, V. L. Potts, John S. Sutton, J. E.
McKinlay, A. Price, M. P. Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) Pybus, Percy John Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S.W.)
Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Quibell, D. J. K. Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
MacNeill-Weir, L. Ramsay, T. B. Wilton Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
McShane, John James Rathbone, Eleanor Tillett, Ben
Malone, C. L' Estrange (N'thampton) Raynes, W. R. Tinker, John Joseph
Mander, Geoffrey le M. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Toole, Joseph
Manning, E. L. Rlley, Ben (Dewsbury) Townend, A. E.
March, S. Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O.(W. Bromwich) Viant, S. P.
Marcus, M. Romeril, H. G. Walker, J.
Markham, S. F. Rosbotham, D. S. T. Watkins, F. C.
Marley, J. Rothschild, J. de Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Marshall, Fred Rowson, Guy Welsh, James (Paisley)
Mathers, George Salter, Dr. Alfred West, F. R.
Matters, L. W. Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) Westwood, Joseph
Maxton, James Samuel, H. Waiter (Swansea, West) Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
Melville, Sir James Sanders, W. S. Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Messer, Fred Sandham, E. Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Middleton, G. Sawyer, G. F. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Millar, J. D. Scrymgeour, E. Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Mills, J. E. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Milner, Major J. Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) Winterton, G. E.(Leicester,Loughb'gh)
Montague, Frederick Shepherd, Arthur Lewis Wise, E. F.
Morris, Rhys Hopkins Sherwood, G. H. Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Shield, George William
Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Hackney, S.) Shiels, Dr. Drummond TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Shillaker, J. F. Mr. Charles Edwards and Mr.
Mort, D. L. Shinwell, E. Thurtle.
Muff, G. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
NOES
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak)
Albery, Irving James Dalkeith, Earl of Leigh, Sir John (Clapham)
Allen, Lt.-Col. sir William (Armagh) Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Leighton, Major B. E. P.
Atholl, Duchess of Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Lewis, Oswald (Colchester)
Atkinson, C. Duckworth, G. A. V. Llewellin, Major J. J.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th)
Balniel, Lord Eden, Captain Anthony Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Edmondson, Major A. J. Macquisten, F. A.
Berry, Sir George Elliot, Major Walter E. Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham)
Betterton, Sir Henry B. Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Everard, W. Lindsay Marjorlbanks, Edward
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Falle, Sir Bertram G. Mitchell-Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Boyce, Leslie Fielden, E. B. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B.
Braithwaite, Major A. N. Ford, Sir P. J. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr)
Brass, Captain Sir William Forestler-Walker, Sir L. Muirhead, A. J.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G.(Ptrsf'ld)
Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) Ganzoni, Sir John Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Bullock, Captain Malcolm Glyn, Major R. G. C. O'Neill, Sir H.
Burton, Colonel H. W. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Penny, Sir George
Butler, R. A. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. Pownall, Sir Assheton
Campbell, E. T. Gunston, Captain D. W. Purbrick, R.
Castle Stewart, Earl of Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Remer, John R.
Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt, R. (Prtsmth.,S.) Hall, Lieut.-Col. sir F. (Dulwich) Reynolds, Col. Sir James
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Hammersley, S. S. Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Chamberlain,Rt.Hn.Sir J.A.(Birm,W.) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Salmon, Major I.
Christle, J. A. Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Clydesdale, Marquess of Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Colfox, Major William Philip Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Simms, Major-General J.
Colville, Major D. J. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Hurd, Percy A. Smithers, Waldron
Cowan, D. M. Hurst, Sir Gerald B. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Cranborne, Viscount Inskip, Sir Thomas Spender-Clay, Colonel H
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Lamb, Sir J. O. Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South) Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon Withers, Sir John James
Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F. Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert Womersley, W. J.
Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton) Wardlaw-Milne, J. S. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Thomson, Sir F. Warrender, Sir Victor Wright, Brig.-Gen. W. D. (Tavist'k)
Tinne, J. A. Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Todd, Capt. A. J. Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Train, J. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl Captain Sir George Bowyer and
Major the Marquess of Titchfield.