HC Deb 05 February 1931 vol 247 cc2119-25
Mr. STANLEY BALDWIN

Can the Prime Minister tell us what the business will be next week?

The PRIME MINISTER

Monday: Agricultural Marketing Bill, Second Reading.

Tuesday: Agricultural Land (Utilisation) Bill, completion of further stages.

We should also like, on Tuesday, to complete the further stages of the China Indemnity (Application) Bill, which has passed Standing Committee without amendment. That will be the subject of negotiations through the usual channels.

Wednesday: Motion—[National Economy]—in the name of the right hon. Member for Bewdley (Mr. S. Baldwin).

Thursday: Motion—[Unemployment]—in the name of the right hon. Member for Carnarvon Boroughs (Mr. Lloyd George).

Friday: Private Members' Bills.

On any day, should time permit, other Orders may be taken.

Mr. BALDWIN

I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will consider giving a second day for the Agricultural Marketing Bill. It is rather a complicated Bill, and, if it is treated as the Bill now under discussion and is sent upstairs with special powers to the Chairman, there will be very little opportunity of discussing the general principles of the Bill and getting information on the details of Clauses, and that is of very great importance in Bills of this kind. I hope, therefore, the right hon. Gentleman will give consideration to the request which I have made and perhaps allow us to consult him through the usual channels.

The PRIME MINISTER

I shall be very glad to have consultation through the usual channels, but I studied this Bill, and I thought that it would be far better to let it have a Second Reading on one day and then give it examination upstairs. I will gladly consult them about the upstairs procedure. I do not like—honestly and sincerely—to move these Resolutions, and I will only do so if I find that it is absolutely necessary in the interests of time.

Mr. MAXTON

May I ask the Prime Minister, if his attention has been called to a Motion on the Order Paper dealing with the present disastrous dispute in the cotton and textile industry and if it would be possible to provide time for a discussion of it, as it seems of more immediate and urgent importance as compared with the somewhat academic Motions in the names of the right hon. Member for Bewdley (Mr. S. Baldwin) and the right hon. Member the Member for Carnarvon Boroughs (Mr. Lloyd George)?

The PRIME MINISTER

Yes, my attention has been drawn to that Motion upon the Order Paper. The time of the House is very short, but Plaything that this House can do to advance the interests of peace in the cotton industry I should only be too glad to provide time for. I am bound to say, however, that I am not going to provide time for a Motion which, instead of helping the situation, will infinitely worsen it.

Mr. MAXTON

May I ask the Prime Minister, since he holds that view so strongly, if he will provide an opportunity for discussing that point?

Mr. BECKETT

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether in the past industrial disputes have not always been discussed in this House on the Motion of the Labour Opposition, and whether they are not now to be discussed when Labour is in office?

The PRIME MINISTER

That may be so. I am not prepared to say "yes" or "no" absolutely to that question, but, when Labour was on the other side of the House and asked for opportunities for discussion, it did it in a responsible way, after consultation with the responsible representatives of the party.

Mr. SANDHAM

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman, in the first place, if he is prepared in the meantime to put into operation the Emergency Powers Act and open the mills in Lancashire and, secondly, does he not consider that the approach to this question has behind it

the great majority ballot vote in Lancashire?

The PRIME MINISTER

In reply to both parts of that question, I say "no."

The following Motion stood upon the Order Paper in the name of the PRIME MINISTER: That the Proceedings on the Agricultural Land (Utilisation) Bill have precedence this day of the Business of Supply, and that the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House).

The PRIME MINISTER

This Motion is usually put in two parts. I suggest that the first part should be put and, as I understand an arrangement has been made, I do not propose to move the second part of the Motion.

Motion made, and Question put: That the Proceedings on the Agricultural Land (Utilisation) Bill have precedence this day of the Business of Supply."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 234; Noes, 148.

Division No. 126.] AYES. [3.53 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Denman, Hon. R. D. Hunter, Dr. Joseph
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Dudgeon, Major C. R. Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R.
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigle M. Dukes, C. Isaacs, George
Ammon, Charles George Ede, James Chuter John, William (Rhondda, West)
Arnott, John Edmunds, J. E. Johnston, Thomas
Aske, Sir Robert Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Jones, F. L[...]eweliyn- (Flint)
Attlee, Clement Richard Elmley, Viscount Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)
Ayles, Walter Foot, Isaac Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Freeman, Peter Jowitt, Sir W. A. (Preston)
Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley) Gardner, B. W. {West Ham, Upton) Kelly, W. T.
Barr, James George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn) Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Batey, Joseph Gibson, H. M. (Lancs, Mossley) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M.
Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) Gill, T. H. Kinley, J.
Bellamy, Albert Glassey, A. E. Kirkwood, D.
Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood Gossling, A. G. Knight, Holford
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Gould, F. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton)
Blindell, James Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Lang, Gordon
Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret Graham, Rt. Hon.Wm. (Edin.,Cent.) Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Gray, Milner Lathan, G.
Brockway, A. Fenner Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Law, Albert (Bolton)
Bromley, J. Groves, Thomas E. Law, A. (Rossendale)
Brooke, W. Grundy, Thomas W. Lawrence, Susan
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts, Mansfield) Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge)
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Lawson, John James
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle)
Buchanan, G. Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Leach, W.
Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland) Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.)
Cameron, A. G. Harbord, A. Less, J.
Cape, Thomas Harris, Percy A. Lloyd, C. Ellis
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Logan, David Gilbert
Chater, Daniel Hastings, Dr. Somerville Longbottom, A. W.
Clarke, J. S. Haycock, A. W. Lovat-Fraser, J. A.
Cluse, W. S. Hayday, Arthur Lunn, William
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Macdonald, Gordon (Ince)
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham)
Compton, Joseph Herriotts, J. McElwee, A.
Cripps, Sir Stafford Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) McEntee, V. L.
Daggar, George Hoffman, P. C. McGovern, J. (Glasgow, Shettleston)
Dallas, George Hopkin, Daniel McKinlay, A.
Dalton, Hugh Hore-Belisha, Leslie Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Horrabin, J. F. MacNeill-Weir, L.
Day, Harry Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I.
McShane, John James Pole, Major D. G. Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) Potts, John S. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Mander, Geoffrey le M. Price, M. P. Snowden, Thomas (Accrington)
Mansfield, W. Quibell, D. J. K. Stamford, Thomas W.
Marcus, M. Ramsay, T. B. Wilson Stephen, Campbell
Marley, J. Raynes, W. R. Strauss, G. R.
Marshall, Fred Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Sutton, J. E.
Mathers, George Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S.W.)
Matters, L. W. Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Maxton, James Romeril, H. G. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Melville, Sir James Rosbotham, D. S. T. Tinker, John Joseph
Messer, Fred Rothschild, J. de Tout, W. J.
Milner, Major J. Rowson, Guy Townend, A. E.
Morley, Ralph Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Morris, Rhys Hopkins Salter, Dr. Alfred Vaughan, David
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) Viant, S. P.
Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Hackney, S.) Sanders, W. S. Walkden, A. G.
Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Sandham, E. Walker, J.
Mort, D. L. Sawyer, G. F. Wallace, H. W.
Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) Scott, James Watkins, F. C.
Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Muff, G. Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Murnin, Hugh Shepherd, Arthur Lewis Wellock, Wilfred
Naylor, T. E. Sherwood, G. H. Welsh, James (Paisley)
Noel-Buxton, Baronets (Norfolk, N.) Shield, George William West, F. R.
Oldfield, J. R. Shiels, Dr. Drummond Westwood, Joseph
Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Shillaker, J. f. White, H. G.
Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Shinwell, E. Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) Simmons, C. J. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Palin, John Henry. Simon, E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Paling, Wilfrid Sitch, Charles H. Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Palmer, E. T. Smith, Alfred (Sunderland) Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) Winterton, G. E.(Leicester, Loughb'gh)
Perry, S. F. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) Wise, E. F.
Peters, Dr. Sidney John Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley)
Pethick-Lawrence, F. w. Smith, Rennie (Penistone) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Phillips, Dr. Marlon Smith, Tom (Pontefract) Mr. Hayes and Mr. Thurtle.
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Moore, Sir Newton J. (Richmond)
Albery, Irving James Eden, Captain Anthony Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr)
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester)
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Everard, W. Lindsay Muirhead, A. J.
Astor, Viscountess Falle, Sir Bertram G. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge)
Baillie-Hamliton, Hon. Charles W. Ferguson, Sir John Nicholson, O. (Westminster)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Fermoy, Lord Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn.W. G. (Ptrsf'ld)
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Ford, Sir P. J. Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert
Beaumont, M. W. Forestier-Walker, Sir L. O'Connor, T. J.
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. O'Neill, Sir H.
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Ganzoni, Sir John Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Bird, Ernest Roy Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Penny, Sir George
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft. Gower, Sir Robert Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Peto, sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Bracken, B. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Pownall, Sir Assheton
Brass, Captain Sir William Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. Ramsbotham, H.
Briscoe, Richard George Gunston, Captain D. W. Reid, David D. (County Down)
Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks,Newb'y) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Rentoul, Sir Gervals S.
Bullock, Captain Malcolm Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Reynolds, Col. Sir James
Burton, Colonel H. W. Hammersley, S. S. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'te'y)
Butler, R. A. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall)
Carver, Major W. H. Hartington, Marquess of Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Castle Stewart, Earl of Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Ross, Major Ronald D.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Heneage, Lieut.-Col Arthur P. Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A.
Cayzer, sir C. (Chester, City) Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth,S.) Hudson, Capt A. U. M. (Hackney, N) Salmon, Major I.
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Knox, Sir Alfred Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Chapman, Sir S. Lamb, Sir J. Q. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Christie, J. A. Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Clydesdale, Marquess of Leighton, Major B. E. P. Skelton, A. N.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)
Colman, N. C. D. Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th) Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Colville, Major D. J. Lockwood, Captain J, H. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Long, Major Hon. Eric Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Lymington, Viscount Stanley, Maj. Hon. O. (W'morland)
Crookshank, Cpt.H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) McConnell, Sir Joseph Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Makins, Brigadier-General E. Stewart, W. J. (Belfast, South)
Dalkeith, Earl of Margesson, Captain H. D. Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Dairymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Marjoribanks, Edward Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Meller, R. J. Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Tinne, J. A.
Duckworth, G. A. V. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Todd, Capt. A. J. Warrender, Sir Victor Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Train, J. Wayland, Sir William A. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement. Wells, Sydney R.
Turton, Robert Hugh Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey) Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount Major Sir George Hennessy and
Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert Womersley, W. J. Sir Frederick Thomson.
Wardlaw-Milne, J. S. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley