§ Mr. REMERI beg to move,
That leave be given to bring in a Bill to compel insurance companies to issue third-party insurance certificates to motor drivers having no convictions for careless, reckless or dangerous driving against them.I desire to ask the leave of the House to introduce a Bill to deal with what is a grave defect in the Road Traffic Act which passed this House during the present year. It is within the knowledge of the House that insurance companies are, at the present moment, very largely refusing to issue insurance policies to a large number of people who were previously insured with them, and the reason they are giving for this refusal is that these people have a bad insurance record. May I be allowed to give two kinds of illustrations which have come to my notice? The first is that of a motor cyclist who had only one accident, and as a result of that accident his insurance policy was refused when it came forward for renewal. It may be said that to have an accident is a serious matter for the insurance company and for the public also, but under the policy of the insurance companies known as the knock-for-knock policy, many people have debited to their account many accidents for which they are not in any way to blame. The second case I will give as an illustration is that of a motor car which has had several accidents during the last three years, and in not one case could it possibly be argued that the accident was the driver's fault. In two of the instances where an accident took place, the car was actually standing in a, garage, and the accident was caused by another car driving into it. Again, under the knock-for-knock policy, the cost of this 1104 damage is debited to the owner's insurance record.The House will remember that, under the Act we passed during the present year, it is necessary for the driver to have a third-party insurance certificate before he can drive a motor car. During the passage of that Act through this House we had very long debates both in Committee upstairs and on the Floor of the House dealing with the question of tests for drivers, and I, personally, was in favour of such tests being created, but the House decided against tests of any kind. If we are to have tests, I am sure that the whole House will agree that there should be a proper tribunal set up for tests to decide whether anyone is to drive a motor car or not, and that it should certainly not be left to the discretion of directors of an insurance company to decide whether or not a man should be allowed to drive a motor car on the road. It may be said that the person in question can try another insurance company. I would remind the House that the first question the applicant has to answer is, "Have you been refused by another insurance company? "If he has, the insurance record is known to the second insurance company, and they would almost certainly refuse to insure him.
Under this suggested Bill, the insurance company would be compelled to give an insurance certificate, as would be required under the Act, to any driver who has not been convicted under the Act, as provided for in the Sections dealing with, careless, reckless or dangerous driving, and as regards accidents, which we all deplore, I think it would be open to the insurance company, or to any other person who thought that the accident was due to any of those causes, to see that a prosecution was made against the 1105 driver who was to blame. Therefore, in such circumstances a careless, reckless or dangerous driver would be fully dealt with, and in that way would have his insurance certificate taken away. I am sure the House will agree that it is most improper that as the Act is at present it should be left entirely to the discretion of the directors of any public company, who are out merely for the profits of their own company, instead of it being left to a proper tribunal to decide who shall drive on the road or who shall not. For these reasons, I ask the leave of the House to introduce a Bill.
§ Mr. CHARLES WILLIAMSI rise for the purpose of opposing this Motion, because it seems to me that my hon. Friend who proposes it has been infected by the Motor Traffic Act with some of the malicious things which one commonly associates with hon. and right hon. Members opposite. He began his speech by saying that he hoped on this occasion to effect a remedy of one of the grave defects in the Road Traffic Act. If this House is to begin to deal with that Act hit by bit, piecemeal, in this way, it will be quite impossible for the House to do anything else for many years. The Act in a short time has been shown to be full of defects, and although I have no doubt the House. would be doing less damage than in many of the other stupid forms of legislation which are proceeding at the present time, I cannot help feeling that this particular form of what I may call single Amendments of the Act, is not the right way to deal with that piece of legislation.
With regard to the word "compel" in the Motion, I and my party always dislike this idea of compulsion. We feel that the liberty of the subject should be safeguarded on every possible occasion. There should be no exception to that as far as possible, unless the subject is doing something to injure the people as a whole. Under this particular Bill, as I understand it, the insurance companies would be compelled by law to issue certificates for third-party insurance, but, as far as the explanation of the Bill went, it is not laid down on what terms they will have to do so. It seems to me that if you go to the insurance companies and say, "You must grant these certificates," they, in their turn, are bound 1106 to grant them at a prohibitive rate. That appears to be almost a contradiction of the purpose of the Bill itself. Of course, I do not expect that I shall get Members, opposite into the Lobby with me. They will naturally vote blindly for compulsion, and I feel that it is impossible to get them into a state of mind which will lead them to vote against this particular proposal.
My hon. Friend, with whom I am deeply sorry to have to disagree, gave several instances where the owners of cars had been refused insurance. He gave one where the unfortunate owner of a car had several accidents. In two cases another car had run into the car in a garage. There may be such exceptional cases. I know that my hon. Friend is very industrious, far beyond the knowledge of the ordinary individual on the opposite side of the House, and he undoubtedly has got one or two good cases in support of his Bill, hut I do not think that the House of Commons should send upstairs to a Committee—Committees upstairs are already vastly over-burdened with work—a Bill dealing with an isolated instance like until, at any rate, there is clear evidence that after a year or so—
Mr. REM ERI am not suggesting that the Bill should go upstairs. I am asking that it should be printed.
§ Mr. WILLIAMSI quite realise that, but we always assume that a Bill will go forward, particularly when it has a really industrious advocate such as this Bill has, and I am bound to assume that it is his object to get it passed into law. On the whole, I think that the House would not be well-advised to proceed with a Bill which can have little chance of becoming law, and which deals with details of a law which has not yet had a real chance of operating. Let the Act come into force and run for a year and then let us deal with it wholesale, if necessary, but not piecemeal.
Question put, "That leave be given to introduce a Bill to compel insurance companies to issue third-party insurance certificates to motor drivers having no convictions for careless, reckless or dangerous driving against them."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 244; Noes, 109.
1103| Division No. 27. | AYES. | [3.52 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Day, Harry | Hopkin, Daniel |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Denman, Hon. R. D. | Horrabin, J. F. |
| Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher | Dudgeon, Major C. R. | Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) |
| Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigle M. | Dukes, C. | Isaacs, George |
| Ammon, Charles George | Duncan, Charles | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) |
| Angell, Norman | Ede, James Chuter | John, William (Rhondda, West) |
| Arnott, John | Edmunds, J. E. | Johnston, Thomas |
| Aske, Sir Robert | Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty, | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merloneth) |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Edwards, E. (Morpeth) | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Slivertown) |
| Ayles, Walter | Egan, W. H. | Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) |
| Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bliston) | Elmley, Viscount | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) |
| Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley) | England, Colonel A. | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) |
| Barnes, Alfred John | Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) | Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. |
| Barr, James | Foot, Isaac | Jowitt, Sir W. A. (Preston) |
| Batey, Joseph | Freeman, Peter | Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) |
| Bellamy, Albert | Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) | Kelly, W. T. |
| Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn) | Kennedy, Thomas |
| Bennett, William (Battersea, South) | George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. |
| Benson, G. | George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) | Knight, Holford |
| Bentham, Dr. Ethel | Gibbins, Joseph | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George |
| Bevan, AneurIn (Ebbw Vale) | Gibson. H. M. (Lancs. Mossley) | Lathan, G. |
| Bllndell, James | Gill, T. H. | Law, A. (Rossendale) |
| Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret | Gillett, George M. | Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) |
| Bowen, J. W. | Glassey, A. E. | Lawson, John James |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Gossling, A. G. | Lowther, W. (Barnard Castle) |
| Broad, Francis Alfred | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Leach, W. |
| Bromfield, William | Gray, Mliner | Lee, Jeanie (Lanark, Northern) |
| Brooke, W. | Greenwood. Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) | Lees, J. |
| Brothers, M. | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Lewis, T. (Southampton) |
| Brown, C. W. E. (Notts. Mansfield) | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) | Lloyd, C. Ellis |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Logan, David Gilbert |
| Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) | Groves, Thomas E. | Longbottom, A. W. |
| Buchanan, G. | Grundy, Thomas W. | Longden, F. |
| Burgess, F. G. | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Lowth, Thomas |
| Buxton, C. R.(Yorks. W. R. Elland) | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvii) | Lunn, William |
| Caine, Derwent Hall. | Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) |
| Cameron, A. G. | Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) | MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) |
| Cape, Thomas | Hamilton. Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) | McElwee, A. |
| Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) | Hardle, George D. | McEntee, V. L. |
| Charleton, H. C. | Harris, Percy A. | McKinlay, A. |
| Chater, Daniel | Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon | MacLaren, Andrew |
| Church, Major A. G. | Hastings, Dr. Somerville | Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) |
| Clarke, J. S. | Haycock, A. W. | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) |
| Cluse, W. S. | Hayes, John Henry | MacNeill-Weir, L. |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) | Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) | McShane, John James |
| Cove, William G. | Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) | Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) |
| Cowan, D. M. | Herrlotts, J. | Mender, Geoffrey le M. |
| Dagger, George | Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) | Mansfield, W. |
| Dailas, George | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | March, S. |
| Dalton, Hugh | Hoffman, P. C. | Marcus, M. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Hollins, A. | Markham, S. F. |
| Marley, J. | Rayner, W. R. | [...]rensen, R. |
| Marshall, Fred | Richards, R. | Stamford, Thomas W. |
| Mathers, George | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Matters, L. W. | Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) | Strauss, G. R. |
| Messer, Fred | Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln) |
| Mills, J. E. | Ritson, J. | Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S W.) |
| Milner, Major J. | Remora, H. G. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Montague, Frederick | Rosbotham, D. S. T. | Toole, Joseph |
| Morley, Ralph | Rothschild, J. de | Tout, W. J. |
| Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury) | Townend, A. E. |
| Morrison, Herbert (Hackney, South) | Salter, Dr. Alfred | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) | Samuel Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) | Vaughan, D. J. |
| Mort, D. L. | Sanders, W. S. | Vlant, S. P. |
| Moses, J. J. H. | Sawyer, G. F. | Walkden, A. G. |
| Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) | Scott, James | Walker, J. |
| Muff, G. | Scrymgeour. E. | Wallace, H. W. |
| Muggeridge, H. T. | Scurr, John | Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Tudor |
| Nathan, Major H. L. | Sexton, James | Watkins, F. C. |
| Naylor, T. E. | Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Noel Baker, P. J. | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) | Sherwood, G. H. | Welsh, James (Paisley) |
| Oldfield, J. R. | Shield, George William | West, F. R. |
| Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) | Shiels, Dr. Drummond | Westwood, Joseph |
| Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) | Shillaker, J. F. | White, H. G. |
| Owen, H. F. (Hereford) | Shinwell, E. | Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood) |
| Palin, John Henry | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Whiteley, William (Blaydon) |
| Paling, Wilfrid | Simmons, C. J. | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Palmer, E. T. | Simon. E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington) | Williams, Dr. J. H. (Lianelly) |
| Perry, S. F. | Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Peters, Dr. Sidney John | Sinkinson, George | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Sitch, Charles H. | Wilson, J. (Oldham) |
| Phillips, Dr. Marion | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) | Wilsop, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Picton-Turhervill, Edith | Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) | Winterton, G. E. (Leicester, Loughb'gh) |
| Pole, Major D. G. | Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley) | Wise, E. F. |
| Potts, John S. | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) | Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff) |
| Price, M. P. | Smith, Tom (Pontefract) | Wright, W. (Rutherglen) |
| Pybus, Percy John | Smith, W. R. (Norwich) | |
| Qulbell, D. J. K. | Snell, Harry | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Ramsay, T. B. Wilson | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Thurtle. |
| Rathbone, Eleanor | Snowden, Thomas (Accrington) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller |
| Atholf, Duchess of | Croft, Brigadler-General Sir H. | Horne, Rt. Hon Sir Robert S. |
| Atkinson, C. | Crookshank, Capt. H. C. | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) | Croom-Johnson, R. P. | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Hurd, Percy A. |
| Beaumont M. W. | Dalkeith, Earl of | Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. |
| Berry, Sir George | Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey | Knox, Sir Alfred |
| Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman | Davies, Mai, Geo. F. (Somerset,Yeov11) | Lamb, Sir J. O. |
| Boothby, R. J. G. | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molten) |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Dawson, Sir Philip | Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. |
| Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart | Dugdale, Capt. T. L. | Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) |
| Boyce, H. L. | Eden, Captain Anthony | Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) |
| Bracken, B. | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Leighton, Major B. E. P. |
| Braithwaite, Major A. N. | Elliot, Major Walter E. | Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) |
| Brass, Captain Sir William | Erskine, Lord (Somerset,Weston-s-M | Liewellin, Major J. J. |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Everard, W. Lindsay | Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Faile, Sir Bertram G. | Lockwood, Captain J. H. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) | Ferguson, Sir John | Lymington, Viscount |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Fermoy, Lord | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) |
| Bullock, Captain Malcolm | Fleiden, E. B. | Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) |
| Burton, Colonel H. W. | Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Makins, Brigadier-General E. |
| Butler, R. A. | Ganzoni, Sir John | Margesson, Captain H. D. |
| Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | Marjoribanks, Edward |
| Campbell, E. T. | Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) | Meller, R. J. |
| Carver, Major W. H. | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Castle Stewart, Earl of | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Monsell, Eyres, Corn. Rt. Hon. Sir B. |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Gower, Sir Robert | Moore, Sir Newton J. (Richmond) |
| Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) |
| Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth,S.) | Gretten, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Mitchell-Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive |
| Chadwick. Capt. Sir Robert Burton | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Muirhead, A. J. |
| Chamberlain Rt.Hn.Sir J.A.(Birm.,W.) | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) |
| Chapman, Sir S. | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Nicholson, O. (Westminster) |
| Christie, J. A. | Hammersley, S. S. | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G.(Ptrsf'ld) |
| Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George | Hanbury, C. | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunel | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Oman, Sir Charles William C. |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Hartington, Marquess of | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William |
| Colman, N. C. D. | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Peake, Captain Osbert |
| Colville, Major D. J. | Henderson, Capt. R. R.(Oxf'd,Henley) | Penny, Sir George |
| Percy, Lord Eugtace (Hastings) | Skelton,[...] N. | Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert |
| Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Pownall, Sir Assheton | Smith-cariagtoa, Neville W. | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Ramsbotham, H. | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) | Wayland, Sir William A. |
| Rawson, Sir Cooper | Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East) | Wells, Sydney R. |
| Reid, David D. (County Down) | Southby, Commander A. R. J. | Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) |
| Remer, John R. | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'te'y) | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) | Withers, Sir John James |
| Ross, Major Ronald D. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F. | Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount |
| Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. | Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A. | Womersley, W. J. |
| Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Tinne, J. A. | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Salmon, Major I. | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of | Wright, Brig.-Gen. W. D. (Tavist'k) |
| Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | Todd, Capt. A. 1. | |
| Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart | Train, J. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Savery, S. S. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement | Sir Frederick Thomson and Captain Wallace. |
| Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome | Turton, Robert Hugh | |
| Simms, Major-General J. | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Division No. 28.] | AYES. | [4.18 p.m. |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) |
| Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher | Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) | Perry. S. F. |
| Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigle M. | Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Phillips, Dr. Marion |
| Angell, Norman | Hardie, George D. | Picton-Turbervill, Edith |
| Arnott, John | Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon | Pole, Major D. G. |
| Atkinson, C. | Hastings, Dr. Somerville | Potts, John S. |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Haycock, A. W. | Price, M. P. |
| Ayles, Walter | Hayes, John Henry | Quibell, D. J. K. |
| Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) | Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) | Ramsay, T. B. Wilson |
| Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley) | Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) | Ramsbothant, H. |
| Barnes, Alfred John | Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) | Raynes, W. R. |
| Barr, James | Herriotts, J. | Richards, R. |
| Batey, Joseph | Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) |
| Bellamy, Albert | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) |
| Been, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood | Hoffman, P. C. | Riley. F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) | Hopkin, Daniel | Ritson, J. |
| Bennett, William (Battersea, South) | Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) |
| Benson, G. | Isaacs, George | Romeril, H. G. |
| Bentham, Dr. Ethel | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Rosbotham, D. S. T. |
| Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury) |
| Blindell, James | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Bowen, J. W. | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Sanders, W. S. |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Sawyer, G. F. |
| Broad, Francis Alfred | Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. | Scrymgeour, E. |
| Bromfield, William | Jowitt Sir W. A. (Preston) | Sexton, James |
| Brooke, W. | Kelly, W. T. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) |
| Brothers, M. | Kennedy, Thomas | Sherwood, G. H. |
| Brown, C. W. E. (Notts, Mansfield) | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Shield, George William |
| Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) | Lathan, G. | Shillaker, J. F. |
| Buchanan, G. | Law, A. (Rossendale) | Shinwell, E. |
| Burgess, F. G. | Lawrence, Susan | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) |
| Burton, Colonel H. W. | Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) | Simmons, C. J. |
| Buxton, C. R. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) | Lawson, John James | Sinkinson, George |
| Cameron, A. G. | Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Cape, Thomas | Leach. W. | Skelton, A. N. |
| Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) | Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) |
| Carver, Major W. H | Lees, J. | Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) |
| Charleton. H. C. | Lewis, T. (Southampton) | Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley) |
| Chater, Daniel | Lindley, Fred W. | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) |
| Church, Major A. G. | Lloyd, C. Ellis | Smith, Tom (Pontefract) |
| Clarke, J. S. | Longbottom, A. W. | Smith, W. R. (Norwich) |
| Close, W. S. | Longden, F. | Snell, Harry |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Lowth, Thomas | Snowden, Thomas (Accrington) |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Lunn, William | Sorensen, F. |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) | Stamford, Thomas W. |
| Cove, William G. | McElwee, A. | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. | McEntee, V. L. | Strauss, G. R. |
| Crookshank, Capt. H. C. | McKinlay, A. | Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln) |
| Daggar, George | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S W.) |
| Dallas, George | MacNeilf-Weir, L. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Dalrymple-White, Lt.-col. Sir Godfrey | McShane, John James | Thortle, Ernest |
| Dalton, Hugh | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Todd, Capt. A. J. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) | Toole, Joseph |
| Dawson, Sir Philip | Mansfield, W. | Tout, W. J. |
| Day, Harry | March, S. | Townend, A. E. |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Marcus, M. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Dudgeon, Major C. R. | Markham, S. F. | Vaughan, D. J. |
| Dukes, C. | Marley. J. | Vlant, S. P. |
| Duncan, Charles | Marshall, Fred | Walkden, A. G. |
| Ede, James Chuter | Mathers, George | Walker, J. |
| Edmunds, J. E. | Matters, L. W. | Wallace, H. W. |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Messer. Fred | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Edwards, E. (Morpeth) | Middleton, G. | Watkins, F. C. |
| Egan, W. H. | Mills, J. E. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Fermoy, Lord | Milner, Major J. | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. ( Rhondda) |
| Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) | Montague, Frederick | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Gibbins, Joseph | Moore, Sir Newton J. (Richmond) | West, F. R. |
| Gibson, H. M. (Lancs. Mossley) | Morgan, Dr. H. B. | White, H. G. |
| Gill, T. H. | Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) | Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood) |
| Gillett, George M | Mort, D. L. | Whiteley, William (Blaydon) |
| Giassey, A. E. | Moses, J. J. H. | Williams Dr. J. H (Lianelly) |
| Gossling, A. G. | Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) | Williams, T. (York. Don Valley) |
| Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwlck) | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne). | Muff, G. | Wilson, J. (Oldham) |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Muggeridoe, H. T. | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Naylor, T. E. | Winterton, G. E. ( Leicester,Loughb'gh) |
| Groves, Thomas E. | Noel Baker, P. J. | Wise, E. F. |
| Grundy, Thomas W. | Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) | Womersley, W. J. |
| Gunston, Captain D. W. | Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) | Wright, W. (Rutherglen) |
| Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Palin, John Henry | |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) | Paling, Wilfrid | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Mr. Remer and Mr. D. G. Somerville. | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Falle, Sir Bertram D. | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William |
| Aske, Sir Robert | Fielden, E. B. | Peake, Captain Osbert |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Pownall, Sir Assheton |
| Beaumont, M. W. | Ganzoni, Sir John | Pybus, Percy John |
| Berry, Sir George | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | Rawson, Sir Cooper |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) | Reid, David D. (County Down) |
| Braithwaite, Major A. N. | Gllmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sury, Ch'bry) |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'I'd., Hexham) | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Ross, Major Ronald D. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C.(Berks,Newb'y) | Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Salmon, Major I. |
| Bullock, Captain Malcolm | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart |
| Butler, R. A. | Hammersiey, S. S. | Savery, S. S. |
| Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Hanbury, C. | Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome |
| Campbell, E. T. | Harris, Percy A. | Simms. Major-General J. |
| Cautley. Sir Henry S. | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness) |
| Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R.(Prtsmth,S.) | Lamb, Sir J. O. | Southby, Commander A. R. J. |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) | Spender-Clay. Colonel H. |
| Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George | Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Colton, Major William Philip | Leighton, Major B. E. P. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F. |
| Colman, N. C. D. | Llewellin, Major J. J. | Tinne, J. A. |
| Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Locker- Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey | Train. J. |
| Croon-Johnson, R. P. | Lockwood, Captain J. H. | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Culverweii, C, T. (Bristol, West) | Lymington, Viscount | Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert |
| Davies, Ma). Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Marjoribanks, Edward | Wells, Sydney R. |
| Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Metter, R. J. | Welsh, James (Paisley) |
| Duckworth, G. A. V. | Morris-Jones. Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Withers, Sir John James |
| Dugdale, Capt. T. L. | Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) | Wright, Brig.-Gen. W. D. (Tavist'k) |
| Edmondson, Major A J. | Morrison-Bell. Sir Arthur Clive | |
| Elmley, Viscount | Newman, SR R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| England, Colonel A. | Newton, Sir D G. C. (Cambridge) | Mr. C. Williams and Captain Sir William Brass. |
| Erskine, Lord (Somerset,Weston-s-M.) | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G.(Ptrst'ld) | |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert |
§ Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. Remer, Mr. D. G. Somerville, Lieut.-Colonel Moore, Sir Philip Dawson, Major Lloyd George and Mr. Glassey.