§
Order read for resuming Adjourned Debate on Question, as amended [11th December],
That in the case of the Local Government Bill and the Local Government (Scotland) Bill (which Bills are hereinafter referred to as 'the English Bill' and the Scottish Bill,' respectively), the Committee stage (including any Motion for an Instruction), Report stage, and Third Reading, shall be proceeded with as follows:
§ (A) In the case of the English Bill:
§ (1) Committee Stage.
§ Thirteen allotted days shall be given to the Committee stage of the English Bill, and the proceedings in Committee on each allotted day shall be as shown in the second column of the following Table, and those proceedings, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the times shown in the third column of that Table:
| Table I.—Committee Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time at which Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | Instructions and Clause 1 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 2 to 4 | 10.30 | |
| Second | Clauses 5 to 8 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 9 to 12 | 10.30 | |
| Third | Clauses 13 to 16 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 17 to 28 | 10.30 | |
| Fourth | Clauses 29 to 38 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 39 to 53 | 10.30 | |
| Fifth | Clauses 54 to 56 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 57 to 67 | 10.30 | |
| Sixth | Clauses 68 to 70 | 10.30 |
| Seventh | Clauses 71 and 72 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 73 and 74 | 10 30 | |
| Eighth | Clauses 75 and 76 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 77 to 79 | 10.30 | |
| Ninth | Clauses 80 to 82 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 83 to 85 | 10.30 | |
| Tenth | Clauses 86 to 92 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 93 to 110 | 10.30 | |
| Eleventh | Clauses 111 to 115 | 7 30 |
| New Clauses and Schedules I. to III. | 10.30 | |
| Twelth | Schedule IV., Parts I. and II. | 7.30 |
| Schedule IV., Parts III. and IV. | 10.30 | |
| Thirteenth | Schedules V. to X. | 7.30 |
| Schedules XI. and XII., New Schedules, and any other matter necessary to bring the Committee state to a conclusion. | 10.30 |
§ (2) Report Stage.
§ Three allotted days shall be given to the Report stage of the English Bill; and the proceedings on each of those allotted days shall be those shown in the second column of the following Table; and those proceedings, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the times shown in the third column of that Table.
| Table II.—Report Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion |
| P.M. | ||
| First | New Clauses | 7.30 |
| Parts I. and II. | 10.3O | |
| Second | Parts III., IV. and V. | 7.30 |
| Parts VI. | 10.30 | |
| Third | Parts VII. and VIII. and Schedules I. to III. | 7.30 |
| Rest of Bill and any other matter necessary to bring the Report stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (3) Third Reading.
§ One allotted day shall be given to the Third Reading of the English Bill; and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion at 10.30 p.m. on that day.
§ (B) In the case of the Scottish Bill:
§ (1) Committee Stage.
§ Nine allotted days shall he given to the Committee stage of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings in Committee on each allotted day shall be as shown in the second column of the following Table; and those proceedings, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the time shown in the third column of that Table.
| Table I.—Committee Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceeding?. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | Instructions and Clauses 1 and 2 | 10.30 |
| Second | Clauses 3 to 7 | 10.30 |
| Third | Clause 8 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 9 to 11 | 10.30 | |
| Fourth | Clauses 12 and 13 | 7.30 |
| Clause 14 | 10.30 | |
| Fifth | Clauses 15 to 19 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 20 to 24 | 10.30 |
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| Sixth | Clauses 25 to 29 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 30 to 32 | 10.30 | |
| Seventh | Clauses 33 to 36 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 37 to 39 | 10.30 | |
| Eighth | Clauses 40 to 44 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 45 to 61 | 10.30 | |
| Ninth | New Clauses and Schedules I. to IV | 7.30 |
| Schedules V. to VII., New-Schedules and any other matter necessary to bring the Committee stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (2) Report Stage.
§ Two allotted days shall be given to the Report stage of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings on each of those allotted days shall be those shown in the second column of the following Table, and those proceeding, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion ate the times shown in the third column of that Table.
| Table II.—Report Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to aconeluBion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | New Clauses and Clause 1 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 2 to 9 | 10.30 | |
| Second | Clauses 10 to 16 | 7.30 |
| Rest of Bill and any otter necessary to bring the Report stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (3) Third Reading.
§ One allotted day shall be given to the Third Reading of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion at 10.30 p.m. on that day.
§ On the conclusion of the Committee stage of either Bill the Chairman shall report the Bill to the House without Question put.
§ Any day after the date of the passing of this Order on which either Bill is put down as the first Government Order of the Day shall, for the purposes of this Order, be considered an allotted day as respects that Bill, and either Bill may be put down as the 2282 first Order of the Day on any Thursday, notwithstanding anything in any Standing Orders of the House relating to the Business of Supply.
§ Provided that where art allotted day is a Friday this Order shall have effect as if for reference to 7.30 p.m. and 10.30 p.m. there were respectively substituted references to 1 p.m. and 3.30 p.m.
§ For the purpose of bringing to a conclusion any proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion on an allotted day and which have not previously been brought to a conclusion, the Chairman or Mr. Speaker shall, at the time appointed under this Order for the conclusion of those proceedings, put forthwith the Question on any Amendment or Motion already proposed from the Chair, and shall next proceed to put forthwith the Question on any Amendments, new Clauses, or Schedules moved by the Government of which notice has been given, but no other Amendments, new Clauses, or Schedules, and on any Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded, and, in the case of Government Amendments or of Government new Clauses or Schedules, he shall put only the Question that the Amendment be made or that the Clauses or Schedules be added to the Bill, as the case may be; and on the Committee stage of either Bill the Chairman, in the case of a series of consecutive Clauses to which no notice of amendment has been given by the Government, shall put the Question that those Clauses stand part of the Bill without putting the Question separately as respects each Clause.
§ A Motion may be made by the Government to leave out any Clause or consecutive Clauses of either Bill before consideration of any Amendments of the Clause or Clauses in Committee; and the Question on a Motion made by the Government to leave out any Clause or Clauses of either Bill shall he put forthwith by the Chairman or Mr. Speaker after a brief explanatory statement from the Minister in charge and from any one Member who opposes the Motion.
§ Any Private Business which is set down for consideration at 7.30 p.m., and any Motion for Adjournment under Standing Order No. 10, on an allotted day shall, on that day, instead of being taken as provided by the Standing Orders, be taken after the conclusion of the proceedings on the Bill in question or under this Order for that day, and any Private Business or Motion for Adjournment so taken may he proceeded with, though opposed, notwithstanding any Standing Orders relating to the Sittings of the House.
§ On a day on which any proceedings are to le brought to a conclusion under this Order, proceedings for that purpose shall not be interrupted under the provisions of any Standing Order relating to the Sittings of the House.
§ On an allotted day as respects either Bill no dilatory Motion on the Bill, nor Motion that the Chairman do report Progress or do leave the Chair, nor Motion to postpone 2283 a Clause, nor Motion to re-commit the Bill, shall be received unless moved by the Government, and the Question on such Motion, if moved by the Government, shall he put forthwith without any Debate.
§ Nothing in this Order shall—
- (a) prevent any proceedings which under this Order are to be concluded on any particular day being concluded on any other day, or necessitate any particular day or part of a particular day being given to any such proceedings if those proceedings have been otherwise disposed of; or
- (b) prevent any other business being proceeded with on any particular day, or part of a particular day, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the House, after any proceedings to be concluded under this Order on that particular day, or part of a particular day, have been disposed of.
§ Question, as amended, again proposed.
§ Mr. HARDIEI beg to move, in line 112, to leave out the word "One" and to insert instead thereof the word "Two."
When the discussion was adjourned yesterday, I had practically concluded all I had to say, and I content myself now with moving my Amendment.
§ Mr. WESTWOODI beg to second the Amendment.
§ Question put, "That the word One 'stand part of the Question, as amended."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 231; Noes, 135.
2285| Division No. 57.] | AYES. | [11.22 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Curzon, Captain Viscount | Hume, Sir G. H. |
| Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles | Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) | Hurd, Percy A. |
| Albery, Irving James | Dawson, Sir Philip | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen't) |
| Allen, Sir J. Sandeman | Dixey, A. C. | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston). |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert | Kindersley, Major Guv M. |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Edmondson, Major A. J. | King, Commodore Henry Douglas |
| Astor, Maj. Hn.John J.(Kent, Dover) | Elliot, Major Walter E. | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Ellis, R. G. | Lamb, J, Q. |
| Atkinson, C. | Everard, W. Lindsay | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) |
| Balniel, Lord | Fanshawe, Captain G, D. | Long, Major Erls |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Fermoy, Lord | Looker, Herbert William |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Fielden, E. B. | Lougher, Lewis |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon | Forestler-Walker, Sir L. | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Fraser, Captain Ian | Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman |
| Bethel, A. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Lumley. L. R. |
| Bevan, S. J. | Galbraith, J. F. W. | MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen |
| Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R., Skipton) | Ganzonl, Sir John | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) |
| Bird. Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Gates, Percy | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus |
| Boothby, R. J. G. | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | MacIntyre, I. |
| Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. | Goff, Sir Park | McLean, Major A. |
| Brass, Captain W. | Gower, Sir Robert | Macmillan, Captain H. |
| Briggs. J. Harold | Grace. John | MacRobert, Alexander M. |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Grant, Sir J. A. | Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) |
| Brittain, Sir Harry | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel. |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Greene, W. P. Crawford | Makins, Brigadier-General E. |
| Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn |
| Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Grotrian, H. Brent | Margesson, Captain D. |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'I'd., Hexham) | Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Mason, Colonel Glyn K. |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Hacking, Douglas H. | Meyer, Sir Frank |
| Burman, J. B. | Hamilton, Sir George | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw. |
| Carver, Major W. H. | Hammersley, S. S. | Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt.R.(Prtsmth. S.) | Hanbury, C. | Monseil, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hoa. B. t |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Morrison, H. (Wilts, Saltsbury) |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Harland. A. | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive |
| Chamberlain. Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Hartington, Marquess of | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exete) |
| Chapman, Sir S. | Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Nicholson, O. (Westminster) |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Nuttall, Ellis |
| Clayton, G. C. | Headlam. Lieut.-Colonel C. M. | O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd. Henley) | O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William |
| Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George | Haneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Penny, Frederick George |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunel | Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) |
| Conway, Sir W. Martin | Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. | Perkins, Colonel E. K. |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Hilton, Cecil | Perring, Sir William George |
| Cope, Major Sir William | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) |
| Couper, J. B. | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Power, Sir John Cecil |
| Courtauld, Major J. S. | Holt. Captain H. p. | Pownail, Sir Assheton |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Hopkins, J. W. W. | Preston, William |
| Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Radford, E. A. |
| Crookshank. Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Raine, Sir Walter |
| Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey.Galnsbro) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney,N.) | Ramsden, E. |
| Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Hudson, R.S. (Cumberl'and, Whiteh'n) | Rawson, Sir Cooper |
| Reid, D. D. (County Down) | Skelton, A. N. | Waddington, R. |
| Remer, J. R. | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. | Smith, R.W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) | Ward, Lt.-Col. A.L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) | Smithers, Waldron | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford) | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) | Watts, Sir Thomas |
| Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell | Southby, Commander A. R. J. | Wayland, Sir William A. |
| Ropner, Major L. | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. | Wells, S. R. |
| Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. | White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dalrymple |
| Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torqsay) |
| Rye. F. G. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) |
| Salmon, Major I. | Steel, Major Samuel Strang | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford. Lichfield) |
| Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | Storry-Deans, R. | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. | Winterton. Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Sandeman, N. Stewart | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Sanders, Sir Robert A. | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid | Womersley, W. J. |
| Sanderson, Sir Frank | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| Sandon, Lord | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. | Tinne, J. A. | Wright, Brig.-General W. D. |
| Savery, S. S. | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of | |
| Sheffield, Sir Berkeley | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Shepperson, E. W. | Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P. | Mr. F. C. Thomson and Sir Victor |
| Warrender. | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Han. W. (File, West) | Hamilton, Sir H. (Orkney & Shetland] | Riley, Ben |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Hardle, George D. | Ritson. J. |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Harris, Percy A. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O.(W.Bromwich) |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hayday, Arthur | Saklatvala, Shapurji |
| Baker, Walter | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Barnes, A. | Hirst, G. H. | Scrymgeour, E. |
| Barr, J. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Sexton, James |
| Batey, Joseph | Hollins, A. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis |
| Bellamy, A. | Hudson, J. H. (Hudderfield) | Shiels, Dr. Drummond |
| Benn, Wedgwood | Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Shinwell, E. |
| Bondfield, Margaret | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Briant, Frank | Johnston, Thomas (Dundue) | Smillie, Robert |
| Broad, F. A. | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) |
| Bromfield, William | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Snell, Harry |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Stamford, T. W. |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Kelly, W. T. | Stephen, Campbell |
| Buchanan, G. | Kennedy, T. | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Cape, Thomas | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M | Sullivan, J. |
| Charleton, H. C. | Kirkwood. D. | Sutton, J. E. |
| Cluse. W. s. | Lansbury, George | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Lawrence, Susan | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) |
| Crawfurd, H. E. | Lawson, John James | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Platstow) |
| Dalton, Hugh | Lee, F. | Thurtle, Ernest |
| Davles, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Lowth, T. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Day, Harry | Lunn, William | Tomlinson, R. P. |
| Dennison, R. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Townend, A. E. |
| Dunnico, H. | Mackinder, W. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | MacLaren, Andrew | Viant, S. P. |
| Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen |
| Fenby, T. D. | March, S. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermilne) |
| Forrest, W. | Maxton, James | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Gardner, J. P. | Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) | Westwood, J. |
| Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Gibblns, Joseph | Mosley, Sir Oswald | Wiggins, William Martin |
| Gillett, George M. | Murnin, H. | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Naylor, T. E. | Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) |
| Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edln., Cent.) | Oliver, George Harold | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Greenail, T. | Owen, Major G. | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Paling. W. | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Windsor, Walter |
| Griffith, F. Kingsley | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Grundy, T. W. | Ponsonby, Arthur | |
| Hall, F. (York, W.R. Normanton) | Potts. John S. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Mr. B. Smith and Mr. Whiteley. |
§ Mr. MORGAN JONESI beg to move, in line 131, to leave out the words "but no," and to insert instead thereof the words "and any."
It may be convenient to the House if this Amendment and the next. one standing in the names of myself and 2286 others of my hon. Friends—In line 132, after the word "Schedules," to insert the words
of which notice has been given and which lie may select"—are taken together, but taking two separate votes on the matter when it is put to the House.
§ Mr. SPEAKEROf these two Amendments, one is consequential on the other.
§ Mr. JONESThe point, briefly, is this. As the Motion now stands, the proposal is that the only business not previously discussed that shall be taken when the Guillotine falls will be Government business—new Amendments, new Clauses, and so on. We submit that that is rather unjust to the Opposition. We think that, having reduced our opportunities for discussing these proposals, the Government ought to allow us to record our convictions in regard to Amendments to which we attach great importance; but, if this Motion be carried as it is, we shall be precluded entirely from moving Amendments to which we attach importance. That, we submit, will be an injustice to the Opposition over and above the injustice of limiting the time for discussion in other respects.
§ Mr. T. WILLIAMSI beg to second the Amendment.
Mr. CHAMBERLAINI am not quite sure whether the hon. Member appreciates the full effect that this Amendment would have if it were carried. It would, of course, mean that any points of substance raised by Amendments moved by private Members and not by the Government would be selected for discussion and would have to be voted upon. While it is quite true that that would give an opportunity of voting upon more Amendments than would otherwise be the case, it would be at the expense of further discussion on other Clauses, because, when the Guillotine fell at 7.30, instead of going on, after voting on Government Amendments, we should have to go on voting on all the private Members' Amendments of substance. Therefore, we should spend our time in tramping round and round the Lobbies, instead of in discussing the questions which would arise in the later part of the day. I cannot think that the hon.
§ Member has really contemplated that, and perhaps, in view of it he may not think it necessary to proceed further with the Amendment.
§ Mr. JOHNSTONI would point out to the right hon. Gentleman that we should obviously only endeavour to have votes taken after 7.30 on Amendments which we considered to be of such substance that we should be prepared to have our time limited in order to get a vote on them, while, on Amendments which would come after 10.30, we should obviously not be eating into any time at all. What we are seeking to secure by these two Amendments is that under this Guillotine, where we are going to have little or no opportunities for discussing some very important alterations in local government in England and Scotland, we shall at least have upon the records of this House Divisions in which hon. Members will require to sort themselves out for or against, and if the Government not only decide to limit our discussions, or to prevent our having discussions, on important matters, but, in addition, propose to prevent us, and to prevent you, Mr. Speaker, from selecting proper subjects for voting upon in this House, then we regard it as an added tyranny which we shall oppose in the Division Lobby.
§ Mr. E. BROWNI feel bound to support the Amendment. It must be obvious to any who have given careful consideration to it that there are issues arising in almost every Clause of the Bill that ought not to pass the House without actual decisions being taken in the Lobby and at half-past ten the Opposition ought to have a right to have their Amendments selected for decision equally with the Government, and I feel bound to say we ought to have the Amendment.
§ Question put, "That the words 'but no' stand part of the Question, as amended."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 221; Noes, 128.
2291| Division No. 58.] | AYES. | [11.37 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Balniel, Lord | Briggs, J. Harold |
| Alnsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles | Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Briscoe, Richard George |
| Albery, Irving James | Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Brittain. Sir Harry |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Brocklebank, C. E. R. |
| Allen, Sir J. Sandeman | Bethel, A. | Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Bevan, S. J. | Broun-Lindsay, Major H. |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Boothby, R. J. G. | Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Bullock, Captain M. |
| Balfour, George (Hempstead) | Brass, Captain W. | Burman, J. B. |
| Carver, Major W. H. | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Remer, J. R. |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt, R.(Prtsmth, S.) | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Holt, Captain H. P. | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Hopkins, J. W. W. | Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford) |
| Chapman, Sir S. | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Ropner, Major L. |
| Clayton, G. C. | Hudson, R. S. (Cumberland, Whiteh'n) | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Hume, Sir G. H. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hurd, Percy A. | Rye, F. G. |
| Cockerill Brig.-General Sir George | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Saimon, Major I. |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Cooper, J. B. | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) |
| Courtauld, Major J. S. | Kindersley, Major G. M. | Sandeman, N. Stewart |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | King, Commodore Henry Douglas | Sanders, Sir Robert A. |
| Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Sanderson, sir Frank |
| Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Lamb, J. Q. | Sandon, Lord |
| Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. |
| Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) | Savery, S. S. |
| Curzon, Captain Viscount | Long, Major Eric | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Looker, Herbert William | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Dawson, Sir Philip | Lougher, Lewis | Skelton, A. N. |
| Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) |
| Dixey, A. C. | Luce, Major-Gen, Sir Richard Harman | Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert | Lumley, L. R. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen | Smithers, Waldron |
| Elliot, Major Walter E. | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Somerville. A. A. (Windsor) |
| Ellis, R. G. | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus | Southby, Commander A. R. J, |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Maclntyre, Ian | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. |
| Faile, Sir Bertram G. | McLean, Major A. | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Fanshawe, Captain G. D. | Macmillan, Captain H. | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G.F. |
| Fermoy, Lord | MacRobert, Alexander M. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Fielden, E. B. | Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| Forestler-Walker, Sir L. | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- | Storry-Deans, R. |
| Fraser, Captain Ian | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Galbraith, J. F. W. | Margesson, Captain D. | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid |
| Ganzoni, Sir John | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Gates, Percy | Mason, Colonel Glyn K. | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, south) |
| Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Meyer, Sir Frank | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- |
| Golf Sir Park | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw | Tinne, J. A. |
| Gower, Sir Robert | Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Grace, John | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Grant, Sir J. A. | Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Grattan, Doyle, Sir N. | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Greene, W. P. Crawford | Newman. Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Nicholson, O. (Westminster) | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Grotrian, H. Brent | Nuttall, Ellis | Watts, Sir Thomas |
| Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | O'Connor. T. J. (Bedford, Luton) | Wayland, Sir William A. |
| Gunston, Captain D. W. | O'Neill. Major Rt. Hon. Hugh | Wells, S. R. |
| Hacking, Douglas H. | Oman, Sir Charles William C. | White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dairympla- |
| Hammersley, S. S. | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Hanbury, C. | Penny, Frederick George | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) |
| Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Harland, A. | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Hartington, Marquess of | Perring, Sir William George | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Power, Sir John Cecil | Womersley, W. J. |
| Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. | Pownall, Sir Assheton | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| Henderson, Capt. R. R.(Oxf'd, Henley) | Preston, William | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian | Radford, E. A. | Wright, Brig.-General W. D. |
| Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P. | Raine, Sir Walter | |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Ramsden, E. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. | Rawson, Sir Cooper | Sir William Cope and Sir Victor |
| Hilton, Cecil | Reid, D. D. (County Down) | Warrender. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Hen. W. (Fife, West) | Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Gibbins, Joseph |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Buchanan, G. | Gillett, George M. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Cape, Thomas | Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) |
| Baker, Walter | Charleton, H. C. | Graham, Rt. Hon. Win. (Edln., Cent.) |
| Barnes, A. | Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Greenall, T. |
| Barr, J. | Crawfurd, H. E. | Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) |
| Batey, Joseph | Dalton, Hugh | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Griffith, F. Kingsley |
| Bellamy, A. | Day, Harry | Grundy, T. W. |
| Benn, Wedgwood | Dennison, R. | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) |
| Bondfield, Margaret | Dunnico, H. | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) | Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) |
| Briant, Frank | Fenby, T. D. | Hardle, George D. |
| Broad, F. A. | Forrest, W. | Hayday, Arthur |
| Bromfield, William | Gardner, J. P. | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) |
| Hirst, G. H. | Mosley, Sir Oswald | Stamford, T. W. |
| Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Murnin, H. | Stephen, Campbell |
| Hollins, A. | Naylor, T. E. | Sullivan, J. |
| Hore-Bellsha, Leslie | Oliver, George Harold | Sutton, J. E. |
| Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) | Owen, Major G. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Paling, W. | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Thurtle, Ernest |
| John, William (Rhondda, West) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Tomlinson, R. p. |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Potts, John S. | Townend, A. E. |
| Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Riley, Ben | Viant, S. P. |
| Kelly, W. T. | Ritson, J. | Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen |
| Kennedy, T. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermilne) |
| Kirkwood, D. | Saklatvala, Shapurji | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Lansbury, George | Salter, Dr. Alfred | Westwood, J. |
| Lawrence, Susan | Scrymgeour, E. | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Lawson, John James | Sexton, James | Wiggins, William Martin |
| Lee, F. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Longbottom, A. W. | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis | Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) |
| Lowth, T. | Shiels, Dr. Drummond. | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Lunn, William | Shinwell, E. | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) | Windsor, Walter |
| Mackinder, W. | Sitch, Charles H. | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | Smillie, Robert | |
| Maxton, James | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) | Mr. Charles Edwards and Mr. |
| Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Snell, Harry | Whiteley. |
§ Main Question, as amended, again proposed.
§ Mr. E. BROWNI only wish to say, before the Division is taken, that I think the time allotted is utterly insufficient to enable us to discuss the provisions of these two huge Bills. The right hon. Gentleman has been like Pharaoh; he
§ has hardened his heart; and the Secretary of State for Scotland will regret having linked his fortunes in this Bill with the English Pharaoh.
§ Question put.
§ The House divided: Ayes, 219; Noes, 121.
2293| Division No. 59.] | AYES. | [11 46 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Couper, J. B. | Hanbury, C. |
| Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles | Courtauld, Major J. S. | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry |
| Albery, Irving James | Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Harland, A |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Hartington, Marquess of |
| Allen, Sir J. Sandeman | Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Galnsbro) | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Curzon, Captain Viscount | Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil, | Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Dawson, Sir Philip | Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P. |
| Balniel, Lord | Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Henn, Sir Sydney H. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Dixey, A. C. | Hilton, Cecil |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard |
| Bethel, A. | Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) | Holt, Captain H. P. |
| Bevan, S. J. | Elliot, Major Walter E. | Hopkins, J. W. W. |
| Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Ellis, R. G. | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) |
| Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Everard, W. Lindsay | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. |
| Brass, Captain W. | Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Hudson, Capt, A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) |
| Briggs, J. Harold | Fanshawe, Captain G. D. | Hudson, R. S. (Cumberland, Whiteh'n) |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Fermoy, Lord | Hume, Sir G. H. |
| Brittain, Sir Harry | Fielden, E. B. | Hurd, Percy A. |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Forrest, W. | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. |
| Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. | Fraser, Captain Ian | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) |
| Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Galbraith, J. F. W. | King, Commodore Henry Douglas |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Ganzoni, Sir John | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Gates, Percy | Lamb, J. Q. |
| Burman, J. B. | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) |
| Carver, Major W. H. | Goff, Sir Park | Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth, S) | Gower, Sir Robert | Long, Major Eric |
| Cazalet, Captain victor A. | Grace, John | Looker, Herbert William |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Grant, Sir J. A. | Lougher, Lewis |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Lucas-Tooth. Sir Hugh Vere |
| Chapman, Sir S. | Greene, W. P. Crawford | Luce, Major-Gen. sir Richard Harman |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Lumley, L. R. |
| Clayton, G. C. | Grotrian, H. Brent | MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D | Gunston, Captain D. W. | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus |
| Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George | Hacking, Douglas H. | MacIntyre, Ian |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Hammersley, S. S | McLean, Major A. |
| Macmillan, Captain H. | Rawson, Sir Cooper | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| MacRobert, Alexander M. | Remer, J. R. | Storry-Deans, R. |
| Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Maitland, Sir Arthur D. steel- | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray, Fraser |
| Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid |
| Manningham-Buller, sir Mervyn | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford) | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Margesson, Captain D. | Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Ropner, Major L. | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- |
| Mason, Colonel Glyn K. | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. | Tinne, J. A. |
| Meyer, Sir Frank | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemooth) | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- | Rye, F. G. | Tryon, Rt. Hon, George Clement |
| Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) | Salmon, Major I. | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | Ward, Lt.-Col. A.L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Cllve | Sandeman, N. Stewart | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Sanders, Sir Robert A. | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Nicholson, O. (Westminster) | Sanderson, Sir Frank | Watts, Sir Thomas |
| Nuttall, Ellis | Sandon, Lord | Wayland, Sir William A. |
| O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. | Wells, S. R. |
| O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh | Savery, S. S. | White, Lieut.-Col Sir G. Dalrymple |
| Oman, Sir Charles William C. | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William | Shepperson, E. W. | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) |
| Penny, Frederick George | Skelton, A. N. | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dlne, C.) | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Perring, Sir William George | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Smithers, Waldron | Womersley, W. J. |
| Power, Sir John Cecil | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| Pownall, Sir Assheton | Southby, Commander A. R. J. | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Preston, William | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. | Wright, Brig.-General W. D. |
| Radford, E. A. | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) | |
| Raine, Sir Walter | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Ramsden, E. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) | Sir George Hennessy and Sir |
| William Cope. | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Adamton, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Hardle, George D. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Hayday, Arthur | Saklatvala, Shapurji |
| Ammon, Charles George | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Baker, Walter | Hirst, G. H. | Scrymgeour, E. |
| Barnes, A, | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Sexton, James |
| Barr, J. | Hollins, A. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) |
| Batey, Joseph | Hore-Bellsha, Leslie | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) | Shiels, Dr. Drummond. |
| Bellamy, A. | Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Shinwell, E. |
| Benn, Wedgwood | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) |
| Bondfield, Margaret | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Smillie, Robert |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) | Smith, Rennie (Penlstone) |
| Briant, Frank | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Snoll, Harry |
| Broad, F. A. | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Bromfield, William | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Sullivan, J. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Kelly, W. T. | Sutton, J. E. |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Kennedy, T. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Buchanan, G. | Kirkwood, D | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plalstow) |
| Cape, Thomas | Lansbury, George | Thurtle, Ernest |
| Charleton, H. C. | Lawrence, Susan | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Lawson, John James | Tomllnson, R. P. |
| Crawfurd, H. E. | Lee, F. | Townend, A. E. |
| Dalton, Hugh | Longbottom, A. W. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Lunn, William | Vlant, S. P. |
| Day, Harry | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen |
| Dunnico, H. | Mackinder, W. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Fenby, T. D. | Maxton, James | Westwood, J. |
| Gardner, J. P. | Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. | Morrison. R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Whiteley, W. |
| Glbbins, Joseph | Mosley, Sir Oswald | Wiggins, William Martin |
| Glliett, George M. | Murnin, H. | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Naylor, T. E. | Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) |
| Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Oliver, George Harold | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Greenall, T. | Owen, Major G. | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Windsor, Walter |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Griffith, F. Kingsley | Ponsonby, Arthur | |
| Grundy, T. W. | Potts, John S. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Mr. Benjamin Smith and Mr. |
| Halt, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) | Riley, Ben | Wilfrid Paling. |
| Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | Ritson, J. |
Whereupon Motion made and Question, "That the Chairman do report Progress; and ask leave to sit again,"— (Commander Eyres Monsell)—put, and agreed to.
§
Ordered,
That in the case of the Local Government Bill and the Local Government (Scot-
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land) Bill (which Bills are hereinafter referred to as 'the English Bill' and 'the Scottish Bill,' respectively), the Committee
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stage (including any Motion for an Instruction), Report stage, and Third Reading, shall be proceeded with as follows:—
§ (A) In the case of the English Bill:—
§ (1) The Committe Stage.
§ Thirteen allotted days shall be given to the Committee stage of the English Bill, and the proceedings in Committee on each allotted day shall be shown as in the second column of the following Table, and those proceedings, if not previousy brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the times shown in the third column of that Table:—
| Table I.—Committee Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time at which Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | Instructions and Clause 1 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 2 to 4 | 10.30 | |
| Second | Clauses 5 to 8 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 9 to 12 | 10.30 | |
| Third | Clauses 13 to 16 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 17 to 28 | 10.30 | |
| Fourth | Clauses 29 to 38 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 39 to 53 | 10.30 | |
| Fifth | Clauses 54 to 56 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 57 to 67 | 10.30 | |
| Sixth | Clauses 68 to 70 | 10.30 |
| Seventh | Clauses 71 and 72 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 73 and 74 | 10.30 | |
| Eighth | Clauses 75 and 76 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 77 to 79 | 10.30 | |
| Ninth | Clauses 80 to 82 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 83 to 85 | 10.30 | |
| Tenth | Clauses 86 to 92 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 93 to 110 | 10.30 | |
| Eleventh | Clauses 111 to 115 | 7.30 |
| New Clauses and Schedules I. to III | 10.30 | |
| Twelfth | Schedule IV., Parts I. and II | 7.30 |
| Schedule IV., Parts III. and IV | 10.30 | |
| Thirteenth | Schedules V. to X. | 7.30 |
| Schedules XI. and XII., New Schedules, and any other matter necessary to bring the Committee stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (2) Report Stage.
§ Three allotted days shall he given to the Report stage of the English Bill; and the proceedings on each of those allotted days shall be those shown in the second column of the following Table; and those proceedings, if hot previously brought to a conclusion shall be brought to a conclusion at the times shown in the third column of that Table.
2296| Table II.—Report Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | New Clauses | 7.30 |
| Parts I. and II | 10.30 | |
| Second | Parts III., IV, and V. | 7.30 |
| Part VI | 10.30 | |
| Third | Parts VII. and VIII. and Schedules I. to III. | 7.30 |
| Rest of Bill and any other matter necessary to bring the Report stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (3) Third Reading.
§ One allotted day shall be given to the Third Reading of the English Bill; and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion at 10.30 p.m. on that day.
§ (B) In the case of the Scottish Bill:
§ (1) Committee Stage.
§ Nine allotted days shall be given to the Committee stage of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings in Committee on each allotted day shall be as shown in the second column of the following Table; and those proceedings, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the time shown in the third column of that Table.
| Table I.—Committee Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | Instructions and Clauses 1 and 2 | 10.30 |
| Second | Clauses 3 to 7 | 10.30 |
| Third | Clause 8 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 9 to 11 | 10.30 | |
| Fourth | Clauses 12 and 13 | 7.30 |
| Clause 14 | 10.30 | |
| Fifth | Clauses 15 to 19 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 20 to 24 | 10.30 | |
| Sixth | Clauses 25 to 29 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 30 to 32 | 10.30 | |
| Seventh | Clauses 33 to 36 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 37 to 39 | 10.30 | |
| Eighth | Clauses 40 to 44 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 45 to 61 | 10.30 | |
| Ninth | New Clauses and Schedules I. to IV. | 7.30 |
| Schedules V. to VII., New Schedules and any other matter necessary to bring the Committee stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (2) Report Stage.
§ Two allotted days shall be given to the Report stage of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings on each of those allotted days shall be those shown in the second column of the following Table, and those proceedings, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the times shown in the third column of that Table.
| Table II.—Report Stage. | ||
| Allotted Day. | Proceedings. | Time for Proceedings to be brought to a conclusion. |
| P.M. | ||
| First | New Clauses and Clause 1 | 7.30 |
| Clauses 2 to 9 | 10.30 | |
| Second | Clauses 10 to 16 | 7.30 |
| Rest of Bill and any other matter necessary to bring the Report stage to a conclusion | 10.30 |
§ (3) Third Reading.
§ One allotted day shall be given to the Third Reading of the Scottish Bill, and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion at 10.30 p.m. on that day.
§ On the conclusion of the Committee stage of either Bill the Chairman shall report the Bill to the House without Question put.
§ Any day after the date of the passing of this Order on which either Bill is put down as the first Government Order of the Day shall, for the purposes of this Order, be considered an allotted day as respects that Bill, and either Bill may be put down as the first Order of the Day on any Thursday, notwithstanding anything in any Standing Orders of the House relating to the Business of Supply.
§ Provided that where an allotted day is a Friday this Order shall have effect as if for reference to 7.30 p.m. and 10.30 p.m. there were respectively substituted references to 1 p.m. and 3.30 p.m.
§ For the purpose of bringing to a conclusion any proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion on an allotted day and which have not previously been brought to a conclusion, the Chairman or Mr. Speaker shall, at the time appointed under this Order for the conclusion of those proceedings, put forthwith the Question on any Amendment or Motion already proposed from the Chair, and shall next proceed to put forthwith the Question on any Amendments, new Clauses, or Schedules moved by the Government of which notice has been given, but no other Amendments, new Clauses, or Schedules, 2298 and on any Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded, and, in the case of Government Amendments or of Government new Clauses or Schedules, he shall put only the Question that the Amendment be made or that the Clauses or Schedules be added to the Bill, as the case may be; and on the Committee stage of either Bill the Chairman, in the case of a series of consecutive Clauses to which no notice of amendment has been given by the Government, shall put the Question that those Clauses stand part of the Bill without putting the Question separately as respects each Clause.
§ A Motion may be made by the Government to leave out any Clause or consecutive Clauses of either Bill before consideration of any Amendments of the Clause or Clauses in Committee; and the Question on a Motion made by the Government to leave out any Claus or Clauses of either Bill shall be put forthwith by the Chairman or Mr. Speaker after a brief explanatory statement from the Minister in charge and from any one Member who opposes the Motion.
§ Any Private Business which is set down for consideration at 7.30 p.m., and any Motion for Adjournment under Standing Order No. 10, on an allotted day shall, on that day, instead of being taken as provided by the Standing Orders, be taken after the conclusion of the proceedings on the Bill in question or under this Order for that day, and any Private Business or Motion for Adjournment so taken may be proceeded with, though opposed, notwithstanding any Standing Orders relating to the Sittings of the House.
§ On a day on which any proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, proceedings for that purpose shall not be interrupted under the provisions of any Standing Order relating to the Sittings of the House.
§ On an allotted day as respects either Bill no dilatory Motion on the Bill, nor Motion that the Chairman do report Progress or do leave the Chair, nor Motion to postpone a Clause, nor Motion to re-commit the Bill, shall be received unless moved by the Government, and the Question on such Motion, if moved by the Government, shall be put forthwith without any Debate.
§ Nothing in this Order shall—
- (a) prevent any proceedings which under this Order are to be concluded on any particular day being concluded on any other day, or necessitate any particular day or part of a particular day being given to any such proceedings if those proceedings have been otherwise disposed of; or
- (b) prevent any other business being proceeded with on any particular day, or part of a particular day, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the House, after any proceedings to be concluded under this Order on that particular day, or part of a particular day, have been disposed of."