§ Sir P. CUNLIFFE-LISTERI beg to move, in page 3, line 13, to leave out the word " January," and to insert instead thereof the word " April."
The object is to give an increased time for the beginning of the register, and the same date struck both the Opposition and myself as being a practically convenient one.
§ Amendment agreed to.
§ Colonel WEDGWOODI beg to move, in page 3, line 14, to leave out the words " to which this Act applies."
We have already referred largely to the register in the preceding Clauses, and in Clause 5 the register is actually established. It enacts that on and after a certain day no film to which this Act applies shall be exhibited to the public of Great Britain unless the film has been registered, with the proviso that it shall not apply to films which have been exhibited before the commencement of the Act. All new films have to be registered before they are exhibited, or rather, it says that all films to which this Act applies have to be registered before being exhibited, and I desire by my Amendment to leave out the words "to which this Act applies."
At first sight this seems rather contrary to our usual principles in the 732 Opposition; it asks that every film should be registered. It does so for this reason. The exhibitor is put under a serious penalty if he exhibits films which have not been registered. While the Bill was going through Committee we added very largely to the number of films to which it does not apply. We included a number of educational, instructional and advertising films among those which can be shown but need not be registerd, and, again, there are old films. How is the exhibitor to know whether an old film has been registered or not 1 The exhibitor is not able to rent or show films unless he knows definitely that they have been registered. There are many films now that need not be registered, and there are a. number on the border-line which may or may not be registered. I want to have the register complete, so that the exhibitor can go to it and see definitely whether the whole of his programme has been duly registered in order that he may not break the law.
At the present moment he may see that a certain number of his films have not been registered, but may think it is all right because they are not registrable. Then he may find that he has broken the law because some film is not registered, not because it ought not to be registered, but because it has not been registered by the owner of the film. I would like the register, which must be consulted by the exhibitor, to be complete, so as to show the exhibitor what he may and what he may not do. A complete register will state whether the film is long or short, whether it is British or foreign, and whether it may be accepted to count towards the quota or not. If the register is incomplete, it will not be a satisfactory or sufficient guide to the people who have to consult it.
§ Sir B. CHADWICKThe right hon. and gallant Gentleman's anxiety is to register all films, because he fears that many exhibitors might not have the opportunity of knowing whether a particular film is registered or not. The Bill 733 does provide for full publication in the " Board of Trade Journal " of all registered films, and there is no doubt that in the trade papers there will be very full publication of this information. It would be a very serious matter to have to register some of the films which are excluded under Clause 26. Take, for instance, the case of news films. How would it be possible, between the finish of a football match and the throwing of a picture of it on the screen at eight o'clock, to produce and register the film 1 I am sure the right hon. and gallant Gentleman will see that it would not be possible. Such a provision might create great inconvenience, or might lead to the exclusion from the screen of a, very interesting and pleasure-giving type of film. I am afraid I cannot accept the Amendment.
§ Colonel DAYIt is quite pleasant to have had that explanation from the Parliamentary Secretary, but, as far as we are concerned, it is not lucid. Everything that it has been possible to do in this Bill to penalise the exhibitor and renter has been done. If we go further down this Clause, we see that the poor exhibitor, again, is subject to penalties of £20 a day. Eight through this Bill we have penal Clauses enforced against the exhibitor. If the President of the Board of Trade wanted to make this Clause effective, he should have taken powers to penalise also the producer, because there is nothing to stop the producer from informing the exhibitor that certain films have been registered, and the exhibitor may book the film without taking the necessary precaution, which he should take1, of finding out, and may be penalised to the extent of £20 per day for each offence.
In Committee I suggested that the President of the Board of Trade should consider having each film marked with a Government mark, so that, before the exhibitor displayed it, he would be
§ thoroughly aware that the film had been properly registered, and thus have some protection. At any rate, it could be arranged that all films registered should be published regularly in the " Board of Trade Journal," so that the exhibitor may have an opportunity of seeing whether the films that he is showing or booking have been properly registered, rather than placing the liability on his shoulders and penalising him to the heavy extent that this Clause docs. It must sicken some hon. Members opposite to see all these new penalties introduced. I hate the introduction of penalties for every conceivable thing. We have in almost every Clause penalties introduced for things that the exhibitor or renter should not be made liable for. For these reasons I support the Amendment.
§ Mr. KELLYIf there has been one statement made in the discussion which has proved our case it is that of the Parliamentary Secretary. He took as an illustration the film of a football match which it was desired to show the same night. He pointed out what a sacrifice that would be if people could not see it until it was registered. That might apply to other films that a smart manager had come across and believed it would be of great advantage to show immediately—one of those things which I believe is called in the trade a scoop, or some word of that kind. Under this Bill the exhibitor would not be permitted to show it until he had gone through all the process of registration and a trade show and all the rest of it. While I do not like these restrictive Clauses at all, on this occasion, in order to show how bad the Bill is, I am prepared to vote for the. Amendment.
§ Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 195; Noes, 117.
735| Conway, Sir W. Martin | Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) |
| Couper, J. B. | Hopkins, J. W. W | Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Home, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. | Ropner, Major L. |
| Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A |
| Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.) | Rye, F. G |
| Crookshank, Cpt.H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Hume, Sir G. H. | Salmon, Major I. |
| Cunliffe, Sir Herbert | Huntingfield, Lord | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Curzon, Captain Viscount | Hurd, Percy A. | Sandeman, N. Stewart |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Hurst, Gerald B. | Sanderson, Sir Frank |
| Davidson, Major-General Sir John H. | Illfie, Sir Edward M. | Sandon, Lord |
| Davies, Maj. Geo.F.(Somerset, Yeovil) | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. |
| Davies, Dr. Vernon | Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) | Savery, S. S. |
| Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) | Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W.R., Sowerby) |
| Dawson, Sir Philip | Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley |
| Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Kindersley, Major Guy M. | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Drewe, C. | King, Commodore Henry Douglas | Skelton, A. N. |
| Eden, Captain Anthony | Knox, Sir Alfred | Slaney, Major P. Kenyon |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | Lamb, J. Q. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Elliot, Major Walter E. | Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Smithers, Waldron |
| Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s-M.) | Little, Dr. E. Graham | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | Loder, J. de V. | Sprot, Sir Alexander |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Long, Major Eric | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. |
| Fairfax, Captain J. G. | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Fanshawe, Captain G. D. | Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Ford, Sir P. J. | Mac Andrew, Major Charles Glen | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| Foster, Sir Harry S. | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Fraser, Captain Ian | MacIntyre, Ian | Streatfeild, Captain S. R. |
| Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | McLean, Major A. | Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C. |
| Galbraith, J. F. W. | Macmillan, Captain H. | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Ganzonl, Sir John | Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid |
| Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. | Mac Robert, Alexander M. | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Gates, Percy | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- |
| Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Tinne, J. A |
| Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Goff, Sir Park | Margesson, Captain D. | Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P. |
| Grace, John | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) | Merriman, F. B. | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley) |
| Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) | Morden, Colonel Walter Grant | Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) |
| Grotrian, H. Brent | Naylor, T. E. | Watts, Dr. T. |
| Gunston, Captain D. W. | Nelson, Sir Frank | Wells, S. R. |
| Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Williams, Com. C. (Devon. Torquay) |
| Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Oakley, T. | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) | Winby, Colonel L. P. |
| Hartington, Marquess of | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Withers, John James |
| Henderson,Capt.R.R.(Oxford, Henley) | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Henderson, Lt.-Col. Sir V. L. (Bootle) | Pilcher, G. | Womersley, W. J. |
| Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Price, Major C. W. M. | Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgewater) |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Raine, Sir Walter | Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W) |
| Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. | Ramsden, E. | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Hills, Major John Waller | Rawson, Sir Cooper | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| Hilton, Cecil | Reid, D. D. (County Down) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES — |
| Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D.(St. Marylebone) | Remnant, Sir James | Major Sir Harry Barnston and Mr Penny. |
| Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. |
| Division No. 327.] | AYES. | [8.4 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Campbell, E. T. |
| Agg-Gardner. Rt. Hon. Sir James T. | Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Cassels. J. O. |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Briggs, J. Harold | Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) |
| Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W.Derby) | Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Brown-Lindsay, Major H. | Chapman, Sir S. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Brown, Brlq.-Gen.H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) | Charteris, Brigadier-General J. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Buchan, John | Clarry, Reginald George |
| Bethel, A. | Buckingham, Sir H. | Clayton, G. C. |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Bullock, Captain M. | Cobb, Sir Cyril |
| Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Cadogan, Major Hon Edward | Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Dalton, Hugh | Hayday, Arthur |
| Adamson. W. M. (Staff.. Cannock) | Davies, Ellis (Denbigh, Denbigh) | Hayes, John Henry |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Day, Colonel Harry | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Dennison, R. | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) |
| Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bliston) | Duncan, C. | Hirst, G. H. |
| Baker, Walter | Dunnico, H. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Forrest, W. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) |
| Barnes, A. | Gardner, J. P. | John, William (Rhondda, West) |
| Batey, Joseph | Gibbins, Joseph | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Gillett, George M. | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) |
| Bondfield, Margaret | Gosling, Harry | Kelly, W. T. |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Kennedy, T. |
| Broad, F. A. | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. |
| Bromfield, William | Greenall, T. | Kirkwood, D. |
| Bromley, J. | Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Lawrence, Susan |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Lawson, John James |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Lowth, T. |
| Buchanan, G. | Groves, T. | Lunn, William |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel | Grundy, T. W. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) |
| Cape, Thomas | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) |
| Charleton, H. C. | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) | MacNelll-Weir, L. |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | March, S. |
| Connolly, M. | Hardie, George D. | Maxton, James |
| Cove, W. G. | Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon | Montague, Frederick |
| Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Murnin, H. | Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley) | Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney |
| Oliver, George Harold | Snell, Harry | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Paling, W. | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip | Welsh, J. C. |
| Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Stamford, T. W. | Westwood, J. |
| Potts, John S. | Stephen, Campbell | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Riley, Ben | Sullivan, Joseph | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Ritson, J. | Sutton, J. E. | Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) |
| Robinson, W. C. (Yorks,W.R.,Elland) | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Scrymgeour, E. | Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro. W.) | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Scurr, John | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plalstow) | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Tinker, John Joseph | Wright, W. |
| Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Varley, Frank B. | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton} |
| Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John | Viant, S. P. | |
| Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) | Wallhead, Richard C. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Sitch, Charles H. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Whiteley. |
§ Further Amendments made:
§ In page 3, leave out lines 25 and 26.— (Colonel Wedgwood.]
§ In page 3, line 29, leave out the words
§ "to exhibitors or to the public."—[Colonel Day.]
§ Mr. A. V. ALEXANDERI beg to move, in page 3, line 36, at the end, to insert the words:
Provided, however, that no one shall be fined under Section three and under Section five of this Act in connection with the same film.This is a point which we had under discussion in Committee and one to which the Opposition attaches considerable importance. We have protested all through that the Bill is making far too many new offences. The President of the Board of Trade has partially met us by reducing the maximum penalty from £100 to £50 and now we are concerned to try to obtain a further concession that a renter or exhibitor should not be savagely and brutally punished for a technical offence. I think that is a reasonable request to make. The cinematograph industry seems to me to be hedged round already by far too many Government restrictions. Unfortunately, the cinema-owner will often find himself in danger of petty prosecution and of a fine in other connections after the passing of the Bill, and if he is going to be liable to two or three other offences, in regard to which action can be taken against him, then, I think, he will be in rather a false position. As it is not desirable to have two prosecutions and fines in connection with one film, I hope the Government will be able to accept the Amendment.
§ Colonel DAYI beg to second the Amendment.
§ Sir B. CHADWICK1 am sorry I cannot accept this Amendment,, for this reason. Clause 3 and Clause 5 deal with entirely different sets of circumstances at different times involving different people. Clause 5 has to do with exhibitions and Clause 3 deals-with blind and block booking. It is really hardly possible to deal with the point as the hon. Member wants. Surely it must be a matter for the Court to decide whether a person is breaking the law in one or two or more places. I do not think we can deal with it in the Bill, and I regret that we cannot accept the Amendment.
§ Colonel WEDGWOODI realise, of course, that the hon. Gentleman cannot accept the Amendment because the President is away, and he marked the Amendment paper. But let us remember that the Amendment only comes into operation when it is the same person. The hon. Member said it was a different person, but it is not. It is the same person. The exhibitor makes an agreement, which is proved to be an illegal agreement, to hire a certain film. He is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of £50.
§ Sir B. CHADWICKMay I interrupt the right hon. and gallant Gentleman? Clause 5 has to do with the exhibitor, and Clause 3 has to do with the renter.
§ Colonel WEDGWOODThat is where you have made a mistake. [An HON. MEMBER: "You have amended it!"]: No, it is not a question of amendment even. It does not only deal with the renter; it deals with both parties. Either party making an agreement is liable to that fine. As I have said before, the Government do not understand their own* Bill. Clause 3 says it is a crime to make an agreement. It does not make it a 739 crime for the renter only to make an agreement, but for both parties. A person is caught again under Clause 5 in connection with an exactly similar act, and all we ask is that he should not be doubly a criminal for what is in fact one act, namely, hiring and exhibiting a film. I do not think there is any very im-
§ portant matter involved in this Amendment, but I do think we ought to have a correct reply rather than an incorrect one.
§ Question put, "That those words be there inserted in the Bill."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 114; Noes, 190.
741| Division No. 328.] | AYES. | [8.21 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Ritson, J. |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Groves, T. | Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R., Elland) |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Grundy, T. W. | Scrymgeour, E. |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Scurr, John |
| Baker, J. (Wolverhamton, Bilston) | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) |
| Baker, Walter | Hardle, George D. | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Barnes, A. | Hayday, Arthur | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) |
| Batey, Joseph | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) | Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Snell, Harry |
| Bondfield, Margaret | Hirst, G. H. | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Stamford, T. W. |
| Broad, F. A. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Bromfield, William | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Sullivan, J. |
| Bromley, J. | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Sutton, J. E. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Kelly, W. T. | Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro., W.) |
| Buchanan, G. | Kennedy, T. | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Cape, Thomas | Kirkwood, D. | Varley, Frank B. |
| Charleton, H. C | Lawrence, Susan | Viant, S. P. |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Lawson, John James | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Connolly, M. | Lowth, T. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Cove, W. G. | Lunn, William | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Dalton, Hugh | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney |
| Davies, Ellis (Denbigh, Denbigh) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Day, Colonel Harry | MacNeill-Weir, L. | Welsh, J. C. |
| Dennison, R. | March, S. | Westwood, J. |
| Duncan, C. | Maxton, James | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Dunnico, H. | Montague, Frederick | Wilkinson. Ellen C. |
| Forrest, W. | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) |
| Gardner, J. P. | Murnin, H. | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Glbbins, Joseph | Naylor, T. E. | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Gillett, George M. | Oliver, George Harold | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Gosling, Harry | Paling, W. | Wright, W. |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | |
| Greenall, T. | Potts, John S. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Riley, Ben | Mr. Whiteley and Mr. Hayes. |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Elliot, Major Walter E. |
| Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. | Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton | Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Chapman, Sir S. | Everard. W. Lindsav |
| Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) | Charteris, Brigadier-General J. | Fairfax, Captain J. G. |
| Applin, Colonel R. V. K. | Clarry, Reginald George | Fanshawe, Captain G. D. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Clayton, G. C. | Ford, Sir P. J. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Cobb, Sir Cyril | Foster, Sir Harry S. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Fraser, Captain Ian |
| Barnston, Major Sir Harry | Couper, J. B. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. |
| Bethel, A. | Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Galbraith, J. F. W. |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Ganzonl, Sir John. |
| Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Crooke, J. Smedley (Derltend) | Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Gates, Percy |
| Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Crookshank, Cpt.H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham |
| Briggs, J. Harold | Cunliffe, Sir Herbert | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Brittain, Sir Harry | Curzon, Captain Viscount | Goff, Sir Park |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Dalkeith, Earl of | Grace, John |
| Brown-Lindsay, Major H. | Davidson, Major-General Sir John H. | Graham, Fergus (Cumberland N.) |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) | Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. |
| Buchan, John | Davies, Dr. Vernon | Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Dawson, Sir Philip | Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Grotrian, H. Brent |
| Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Drewe, C. | Gunston, Captain D. W. |
| Campbell, E. T. | Eden, Captain Anthony | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. |
| Cassels, J. D. | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) |
| Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Hartington, Marquess of | MacRobert, Alexander M. | Skelton, A. N. |
| Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxford, Henley) | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. steel- | Slaney, Major P. Kenyon |
| Henderson, Lt.-Col. Sir V. L, (Bootle) | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn | Smithers, Waldron |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. | Merriman, F. B. | Sprot, Sir Alexander |
| Hills, Major John Waller | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. |
| Hilton, Cecil | Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Morden, Colonel Walter Grant | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| Hopkins, J. W. W. | Nelson, Sir Frank | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Home, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. | Oakley, T. | Streatfeild, Captain S. R. |
| Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) | Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C. |
| Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Hume, Sir G. H. | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid |
| Huntingfield, Lord | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Hurd, Percy A. | Pilcher, G. | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- |
| Hurst, Gerald B. | Price, Major C. W. M. | Tinne, J. A. |
| Iliffe, Sir Edward M. | Raine, Sir Walter | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Ramsden, E. | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) | Rawson, Sir Cooper | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) | Reid, D. D. (County Down) | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) | Remnant, Sir James | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Kindersley, Major Guy M. | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. | Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley) |
| King, Commodore Henry Douglas | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) | Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) |
| Knox, Sir Alfred | Roberts, E. H. G (Flint) | Watts, Dr. T. |
| Lamb, J. Q. | Ropner, Major L. | Wells, S. R. |
| Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Little, Dr. E. Graham | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Loder, J. de V. | Rye, F. G. | Winby, Colonel L. P. |
| Long, Major Eric | Salmon, Major I. | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere | Sandeman, N. Stewart | Withers, John James |
| Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman | Sanderson, Sir Frank | Womersley, W. J. |
| MacAndrew Major Charles Glen | Sandon, Lord | Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.) |
| Macdonald, Capt. P. O. (I. of W.) | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| MacIntyre, I. | Savery, S. S. | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (Norwich) |
| McLean, Major A. | Shaw. R G. (Yorks, W.R., Sowerby) | |
| Macmillan, Captain H. | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— |
| Capt. Margesson and Mr. Penny. |