§ Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALDMay I ask the Prime Minister how far he proposes to go to-night if the Eleven o'Clock Rule is suspended?
§ The PRIME MINISTERIt is not my desire to ask the House to sit late to-night, but I hope we shall be able to make progress with the Supplementary Estimates, and that we shall be able to take them in the order in which, I think, I announced them last Friday—the Ministry of Agriculture, the Board of Trade, and the allied Votes, such as Overseas Trade, the Exhibition, and possibly the Police Vote, with one or two of the Report stages. I hope we shall not have to sit up late to-night.
§ Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHYIs it intended to start on the Report stages of any of these Votes after the Private Member's Motion has been disposed of at eleven o'clock?
§ The PRIME MINISTERMy hon. and gallant Friend will remember that it is a most usual practice to take Reports of Supplementary Estimates late in the evening when you can get them.
§ Mr. STEPHENHow many of the Votes which the right hon. Gentleman mentioned does he expect to get to-night?
§ Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHYCould the right hon. Gentleman not give us an indication in answer to what I asked? Does he propose to take the Report stages of any Votes after Eleven, after the Private Member's Motion is disposed of, and, if so, which?
§ The PRIME MINISTERThe hon. and gallant Member will remember that Report stages are taken as opportunity arises during the progress of the Estimates, when there are a number of Supplementary Estimates, as there are this year.
§ Mr. BUCHANANIs it the intention of the right hon. Gentleman to take the Report stage to-night of the Vote for the £200,000 in connection with Scottish housing?
§ The PRIME MINISTERIt depends entirely on the time. I cannot give any undertaking as to what Reports will be taken. It is not in my power to say what Votes the House shall take, but, 1731 if it be possible to get that Estimate on the Report stage, I shall be very glad to get it. If not, we will take it another time.
§ Major CRAWFURDIf the remaining Votes are obtained before Private Member's business comes on and the Report stages come on after Eleven o'clock, could the right hon. Gentleman not indicate the order in which the Votes will be taken on Report?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI am not sure I caught what the hon. and gallant Member said, but I have no desire to take any Report stages at a very late hour that are likely to be of a contentious nature. The Leader of the House or the Chief Whip must be guided by the circumstances at the time, but it is not my desire to force through contentious Votes, and it is not my intention to ask the House to sit to a very protracted hour.
§ Mr. MAXTONDoes the right hon. Gentleman really expect to get anything more than the first Vote to-day, which involves a sum of £250,000 for the sugar beet subsidy? He gave us practically a whole day for the discussion of the Weir steel houses, which only involved £200,000, but in this case a sum of £250,000 is involved, and the same person, Lord Weir, is largely interested. Personally, I do not see how the right hon. Gentleman can reasonably ask the House to let him have this sum before 8.15 to-night.
§ Later
§ Mr. MAXTONMay I point out that the Prime Minister has not yet given us any idea which would enable a Member to
§ make any arrangements? I think he is treating us with discourtesy in not giving us any specific notice as to the hour at which he proposes the House will sit, and no idea as to how many Votes will be taken. He is leaving us all here with our whole day and night absolutely indefinite, and I, for one, will do my best to prevent the Government getting any Vote at all.
§ The PRIME MINISTERDuring the brief period the hon. Member has occupied his seat, I have made a rapid calculation, and I find that the great progress to which he alludes would take us 4,000 days to get the Estimates. I am afraid we cannot proceed at that speed.
§ Mr. MACLEANI would ask the Prime Minister to give us some estimate as to what particular hour, or, approximately, what hour the House will adjourn. [HON. MEMBERS: "No!"] Evidently there is quite a lot of Prime Ministers here.
§ The PRIME MINISTERI have already answered the Leader of the Opposition, and told him it was not my desire that the House should sit late to-night. Of course, I am the victim of circumstances, as any Leader must be, and sometimes it is necessary to sit late if more Members than usual desire to speak. But I hope very much the House may rise to-night very shortly after midnight.
§
Motion made, and Question put,
That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 259; Noes, 128.
1735| Division No. 21.] | AYES. | [3.57 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Blades, Sir George Rowland | Cautley, Sir Henry S. |
| Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. | Blundell, F. N. | Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) |
| Albery, Irving James | Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth. S.) |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. | Cazalet, Captain Victor A. |
| Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) | Boyd, Carpentor, Major A. | Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Brass, Captain W. | Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J. A. (Birm., W.) |
| Applin, Colonel R. V. K. | Briggs, J. Harold | Chapman, Sir S. |
| Apsley, Lord | Briscoe, Richard George | Charteris, Brigadier-General J. |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Brittain, Sir Harry | Christie, J. A. |
| Ashmead-Bartlett, E. | Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. | Churchman, Sir Arthur C. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. |
| Barnett, Major Sir Richard | Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Conway, Sir W. Martin |
| Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish | Bullock, Captain M. | Cope, Major William |
| Berry, Sir George | Burman, J. B. | Couper, J. B. |
| Bethell, A. | Butler, Sir Geoffrey | Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry (Islington, N.) |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Campbell, E. T. | Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry |
| Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Hopkins, J. W. W. | Radford, E. A. |
| Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Howard, Captain Hon. Donald | Ramsden, E. |
| Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Rawson, Sir Alfred Cooper |
| Cunliffe, Sir Herbert | Hume-Williams, Sir W. Ellis | Reid, Captain A. S. C. (Warrington) |
| Curzon, Captain Viscount | Huntingfield, Lord | Remnant, Sir James |
| Dalziel, Sir Davison | Hurd, Percy A. | Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) |
| Davies, Dr. Vernon | Hurst, Gerald B. | Ropner, Major L. |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Iliffe, Sir Edward M. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Salmon, Major I. |
| Dawson, Sir Philip | Jackson, Lieut.-Col. Rt. Hon. F. S. | Sandeman, A. Stewart |
| Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) | Sanders, Sir Robert A. |
| Dixey, A. C. | Jephcott, A. R. | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. |
| Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston). | Savery, S. S. |
| Eden, Captain Anthony | Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) | Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W. R., Sowerby) |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | Kindersley, Major Guy M. | Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. McI. (Renfrew, W.) |
| Elveden, Viscount | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y) |
| England, Colonel A. | Knox, Sir Alfred | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s-M.) | Lamb, J. Q. | Skelton, A. N. |
| Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. | Slaney, Major P. Kenyon |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Fairfax, Captain J. G. | Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Falle Sir Bertram G. | Locker-Lampoon, Com. O. (Handsw'th) | Smithers, Waldron |
| Fanshawe, Commander G. D. | Loder, J. de V. | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Fermoy, Lord | Looker, Herbert William | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. |
| Fielden, E. B. | Lord, Walter Greaves | Sprot, Sir Alexander |
| Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Lougher, L. | Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.) |
| Forrest, W. | Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Fraser, Captain Ian | Lumley, L. R. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Frece, Sir Walter de | MacAndrew, Charles Glen | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony | Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Ganzoni, Sir John | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus | Streatfeild, Captain S. R. |
| Gates, Percy | MacIntyre, Ian | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | McLean, Major A. | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid |
| Gee, Captain R. | Macmillan, Captain H. | Tasker, Major R. Inigo |
| Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm | Templeton, W. P. |
| Goff, Sir Park | McNeill Rt. Hon. Ronald John | Thom, Lt.-Col. J. G. (Dumbarton) |
| Gower, Sir Robert | Macquisten, F. A. | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Grant, J. A. | MacRobert, Alexander M. | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell. |
| Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel. | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Greene, W. P. Crawford | Malone, Major P. B. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Gretton, Colonel John | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn | Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P. |
| Grotrian, H. Brent | Margesson, Captain D. | Waddington, R. |
| Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Gunston, Captain D. W. | Meyer, Sir Frank | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Huff) |
| Hanbury, C. | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Harland, A. | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) | Moles, Thomas | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Harrison, G. J. C. | Moore Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) | Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley) |
| Hartington, Marquess of | Moore, Sir Newton J. | Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) |
| Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. | Wells, S. R. |
| Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Moreing, Captain A. H. | Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H. |
| Haslam, Henry C. | Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) | Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern) |
| Hawke, John Anthony | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) | Murchison, C. K. | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) |
| Henderson, Lieut.-Col. V. L. (Bootle) | Nelson, Sir Frank | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P. | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld.) | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert | Wise, Sir Fredric |
| Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Nuttall, Ellis | Withers, John James |
| Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by) | Oakley, T. | Womersley, W. J. |
| Hills, Major John Walter | O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) | Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater) |
| Hilton, Cecil | O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh | Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.) |
| Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Pennefather, Sir John | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) | Penny, Frederick George | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | |
| Holt, Capt. H. P. | Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Homan, C. W. J. | Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) | Colonel Gibbs and Major Sir Harry |
| Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) | Pleiou, D. P. | Barnston. |
| Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Preston, William | |
| NOES. | ||
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel | Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) |
| Ammon, Charles George | Cape, Thomas | Day, Colonel Harry |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Charleton, H. C. | Dennison, R. |
| Baker, Walter | Cluse, W. S. | Duncan, C. |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) | Dunnico, H. |
| Barr, J. | Compton, Joseph | Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) |
| Batey, Joseph | Connolly, M. | Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Fenby, T. D. |
| Briant, Frank | Crawfurd, H. E. | Gillett, George M. |
| Broad, F. A. | Dalton, Hugh | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) | Greenall, T. |
| Buchanan, G. | Davies, Ellis (Denbigh, Denbigh) | Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | March, S. | Stephen, Campbell |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Maxton, James | Sutton, J. E. |
| Groves, T. | Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) | Taylor, R. A. |
| Grundy, T. W. | Montague, Frederick | Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro, W.) |
| Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Naylor, T. E. | Thurtle, E. |
| Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | Owen, Major G. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Hardie, George D. | Palin, John Henry | Townend, A. E. |
| Hayday, Arthur | Paling, W. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. |
| Hayes, John Henry | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Viant, S. P. |
| Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Hirst, G. H. | Potts, John S. | Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen |
| Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Purcell, A. A. | Warne, G. H. |
| Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) | Riley, Ben | Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney |
| Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Ritson, J. | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R., Elland) | Westwood, J. |
| John, William (Rhondda, West) | Rose, Frank H. | Whiteley, W. |
| Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) | Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter | Wiggins, William Martin |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Saklatvala, Shapurji | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Salter, Dr. Alfred | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Scrymgeour, E. | Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly) |
| Kelly, W. T. | Scurr, John | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Kennedy, T. | Sexton, James | Wilson C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Kenyon, Barnet | Shiels, Dr. Drummond | Windsor, Walter |
| Lansbury, George | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Wright, W. |
| Lee, F. | Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) | Young Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Livingstone, A. M. | Sitch, Charles H. | |
| Lynn, William | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Snell, Harry | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. A. |
| Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | Stamford, T. W. | Barnes. |