§ Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALDMay I ask the Prime Minister when the Resolutions on Safeguarding in connection with the Finance Bill are going to appear on the Order Paper?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI am afraid I cannot answer at the moment. I have had no notice of the question, and no opportunity of looking up the matter. I think to-morrow.
§ Mr. MacDONALDI am sorry I did not give notice of the question, because I assumed that, as we are going to debate it on Wednesday, there would be no doubt as to what the answer would be. Is it possible, in view of the very great importance of the Debate, and the shortness of time, that there will be no further delay?
§ The PRIME MINISTERCertainly. While my right hon. Friend will not expect me to carry all these details in my head, I am advised that it is not necessary, or even necessarily usual, to have notice on the Paper. But we will see that they are on the Paper to-morrow.
§ Major CRAWFURDMay I ask when the Report of the Committee sitting on the proposed tax for the brush industry will be presented?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI would ask the hon. and gallant Gentleman to put the question to the Board of Trade. I have no knowledge of it.
Captain BENNMay I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman has considered the request I made that the text of the Attorney-General's speech should be made available to Members for the Debate to-morrow; whether he is aware it is alleged that the Attorney-General infringed the Criminal Evidence Act, and, in these circumstances, would it not be wise for us to have the text?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI do not think that is anything to do with the House of Commons.
Captain BENNDoes the right hon. Gentleman consider that we shall be able to debate to-morrow the conduct of this case without having such documents before us?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI imagine there has been a very full report in the Press.
Captain BENNThen is the right hon. Gentleman, on the Attorney-General's behalf, content to rest on press reports?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI am not speaking for the Attorney-General at all.
§ Mr. MacDONALDCan the Prime Minister now tell us what the business will be for Friday? May I further ask, if he has not made up his mind, whether he will take into account in relation to the business the circular relating to education policy which has given rise to discussion in the country?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI hope to be able to announce the business to-morrow or Wednesday, but i hope the House will realise that we have done everything we can in this present short Session to give as much time as possible to debating matters outside those arranged.
§ Mr. MacDONALDHas the attention of the Prime Minister been drawn to a statement—whether true or not, I do not know—but a published statement that the intention of the Government was to put the decision into operation before it asked for legislation to support what had been done by administrative action?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI have not seen such a statement.
§ Mr. W. THORNECan the right hon. Gentleman make any statement as to when he is going to appoint a Member for Wales upon the Committee sitting to deal with necessitous areas?
§ The PRIME MINISTERThe necessary instructions have already been given to the proper Department. My hon. Friend might put a question down to that Department.
§ Mr. HORE-BELISHAHas the right hon. Gentleman decided to give a day for the discussion of the closing of the dockyards at Rosyth and Pembroke?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI think that had better be decided when we see how the business is going by the end of the week.
§ Mr. ERNEST EVANSMay I ask whether the proposals made in the 1829 Circular to which reference has been made will not be put into operation until this House has hart the opportunity of discussing them?
§ The PRIME MINISTERThey cannot be put into operation until a law has been passed.
§ Mr. TREVELYANIs it not the case that the Circular has, and is intended to have, immediate effect on the policy of the local education authorities, and is it not the case that already a large number of local authority are showing considerable alarm at the prospects?
§ The PRIME MINISTERNo, I think the Circular was issued in order that the local authorities might have an oppor-
§ tunity of discussing the matter with the President of the Board of Education before we went further.
§ Mr. MacDONALDThen are we to assume from that answer that the question is still open for negotiations and discussion?
§ The PRIME MINISTEROn details, certainly.
§
Motion made, and Question put,
That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this clay's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 237; Noes, 98.
1831| Division No. 421.] | AYES. | [3.50 p.m. |
| Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. | Cooper, A. Duff | Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. |
| Albery, Irving James | Cope, Major William | Henn, Sir Sydney H. |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Couper, J. B. | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. |
| Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) | Craig, Capt. Rt. Hon. C. C. (Antrim) | Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by) |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry | Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) |
| Astor, Viscountess | Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Holland, Sir Arthur |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Crook, C. W. | Holt, Capt. H. P. |
| Atkinson, C. | Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | Hopkins, J. W. W. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Cunliffe, Joseph Herbert | Howard, Captain Hon. Donald |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Curzon, Captain Viscount | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) |
| Barnett, Major Sir Richard | Davies, Dr. Vernon | Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whiteh'n) |
| Beamish, Captain T. P. H. | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Hume, Sir G. H. |
| Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) | Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Hurd, Percy A. |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. | Doyle, Sir N. Grattan | Hurst, Gerald B. |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Drewe, C. | Hutchison, G. A. Clark (Midl'n & P'bl's) |
| Berry, Sir George | Eden, Captain Anthony | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. |
| Blundell, F. N. | Elliot, Captain Walter E. | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Elveden, Viscount | Jacob, A. E. |
| Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) |
| Brass, Captain W. | Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | Kindersley, Major Guy M. |
| Brassey, Sir Leonard | Everard, W. Lindsay | King, Captain Henry Douglas |
| Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Knox, Sir Alfred |
| Briggs, J. Harold | Fanshawe, Commander G. D. | Lamb, J. Q. |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Fielden, E. B. | Lane-Fox, Colonel George R. |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Fleming, D. P. | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) |
| Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. | Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) |
| Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Forrest, W. | Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Foster, Sir Harry S. | Loder, J. de V. |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Fraser, Captain Ian | Looker, Herbert William |
| Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James | Frees, Sir Walter de | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman |
| Burgoyne, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Alan | Ganzoni, Sir John | Lumley, L. R. |
| Burman, J. B. | Gates, Percy | MacAndrew, Charles Glen |
| Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus |
| Caine, Gordon Hall | Gilmour, Colonel Rt. Hon. Sir John | McLean, Major A. |
| Campbell, E. T. | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Macmillan, Captain H. |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Goff, Sir Park | Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm |
| Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Gower, Sir Robert | McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Grant, J. A. | Macquisten, F. A. |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Sir H.(W'th's'w, E) | Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Grotrian, H. Brent | Malone, Major P. B. |
| Charteris, Brigadier-General J. | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Margesson, Captain D. |
| Chilcott, Sir Warden | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. |
| Christie, J. A. | Hall, Vice-Admiral Sir R.(Eastbourne) | Merriman, F. B. |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.) | Meyer, Sir Frank |
| Churchman, Sir Arthur C. | Hammersley, S. S. | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- |
| Clarry, Reginald George | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) |
| Clayton, G. C. | Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Harrison, G. J. C. | Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Moore, Sir Newton J. |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunei | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. |
| Conway, Sir W. Martin | Hawke, John Anthony | Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) |
| Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. | Tasker, Major R. Inigo |
| Murchison, C. K. | Rice, Sir Frederick | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Nelson, Sir Frank | Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | Ward, Lt.-Col. A.L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Nicholson, O. (Westminster) | Sandeman, A. Stewart | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hon. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld.) | Sanders, Sir Robert A. | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh | Sanderson, Sir Frank | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William | Sandon, Lord | Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) |
| Owen, Major G. | Savery, S. S. | Wells, S. R. |
| Pennefather, Sir John | Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) | White, Lieut.-Colonel G. Dairymple |
| Penny, Frederick George | Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y) | Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern) |
| Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) |
| Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Winby, Colonel L. P. |
| Pilcher, G. | Smithers, Waldron | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Pilditch, Sir Philip | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) | Wise, Sir Fredric |
| Power, Sir John Cecil | Spender Clay, Colonel H. | Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) |
| Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton | Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.) | Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.). |
| Price, Major C. W. M. | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) | Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak) |
| Ramsden, E. | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) | Streatfeild, Captain S. R. | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| Reid, D. D. (County Down) | Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C. | |
| Remer, J. R. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Remnant, Sir James | Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H. | Commander B. Eyres Monsell and |
| Major Sir Harry Barnston. | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Grundy, T. W. | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Scrymgeour, E. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | Scurr, John |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hardie, George D. | Shiels, Dr. Drummond |
| Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) | Harris, Percy A. | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) |
| Baker, Walter | Hayday, Arthur | Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Sitch, Charles, H. |
| Barnes, A | Hirst, G. H. | Smillie, Robert |
| Barr, J. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley) |
| Batey, Joseph | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Snell, Harry |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip |
| Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Stamford, T. W. |
| Bromley, J. | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Kelly, W. T. | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Cluse, W. S. | Kennedy, T. | Sutton, J. E. |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) | Lansbury, George | Thurtle, E. |
| Cove, W. G. | Lee, F. | Tinker. John Joseph |
| Crawfurd, H. E. | Livingstone, A. M. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. |
| Dalton, Hugh | Lowth, T. | Viant, S. P. |
| Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) | Lunn, William | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Davies, Ellis (Denbigh, Denbigh) | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) | Mackinder, W. | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Day, Colonel Harry | MacLaren, Andrew | Weir, L. M. |
| Dennison, R. | Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Dunnico, H. | March, S. | Windsor, Walter |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Montague, Frederick | Wright, W. |
| Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, North) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. | Murnin, H. | |
| Gillett, George M. | Naylor, T. E. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Mr. Warne and Mr. Hayes. |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Potts, John S. |