§ "In section six for the words 'be liable to suffer death, or such less punishment as is in this Act mentioned,' there shall be substituted 'be liable to be kept in penal servitude for life, or any shorter period (not less than three years), or to such less punish-
1596§ ment as is in this Act mentioned."—[Mr. Luwson.]
§ Brought up, and read the First time.
§ Motion made, and Question put, "That the Clause be read a Second time."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 104: Noes, 173.
1597| Division No. 93.] | AYES | [8.50 a.m. |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Hardie, George D. | Phillipps, Vivian |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hayday, Arthur | Potts, John S. |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Hayes, John Henry (Edge Hill) | Pringle, W. M. R. |
| Batey, Joseph | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (N'castle, E.) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) |
| Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Riley, Ben |
| Berkeley, Captain Reginald | Herriotts, J. | Ritson, J. |
| Bonwick, A. | Hirst, G. H. | Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich) |
| Bowdler, W. A. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Saklatvala, S. |
| Broad, F. A. | John. William (Rhondda. West) | Salter, Dr. A. |
| Bromfield, William | Johnston. Thomas (Stirling) | Sexton, James |
| Brotherton, J. | Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) | Shinwell, Emanuel |
| Buchanan, G. | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury} |
| Buckle, J. | Jones, R. T, (Carnarvon) | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Burgess, S. | Jones, T. 1. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Smith, T. (Pontefract) |
| Cairns, John | Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East) | Snell, Harry |
| Cape, Thomas | Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. | Spencer, George A. (Broxtowe) |
| Charleton, H. C. | Kirkwood, D. | Stephen, Campbell |
| Darbishire, C. W. | Lansbury, George | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) | Lawson, John James | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Leach, w. | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plalstow) |
| Duffy, T. Gavan | Lee, F. | Turner, Ben |
| Dunnico, H. | Linfield, F. C. | Warne, G. H. |
| Ede, James Chuter | Lunn, William | Watts-Morgan. LI.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Entwistle, Major C. F. | MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) | Westwood, J. |
| Foot, Isaac | M'Entee, V. L. | Wheatley, J. |
| Gosling, Harry | McLaren, Andrew | Whiteley, W. |
| Gray, Frank (Oxford) | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Greenall, T. | Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.) | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercllffe) |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Maxton, James | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Grenfell. D. R. (Glamorgan) | Middleton, G. | Wood. Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.) |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Wright, W. |
| Groves, T. | Murray, R. (Renfrew. Western) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Grundy, T. W. | Newbold, J. T. W. | |
| Guest, J. (York, W.R., Hemsworth) | Oliver, George Harold | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | Paling, W. | Mr. John Robertson and Mr. Morgan Jones. |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Ainsworth, Captain Charles | Briggs, Harold | Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead |
| Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) | Brittain, Sir Harry | Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) | Dawson, Sir Philip |
| Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Colonel Martin | Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.) | Doyle, N. Grattan |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. | Bruton, Sir James | Dudgeon, Major C. R. |
| Astor, J. J. (Kent, Dover) | Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Du Pre. Colonel William Baring |
| Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence | Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North) | Edmondson, Major A. J. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Button, H. S. | Ednam, Viscount |
| Banks, Mitchell | Cadogan, Major Edward | Elliot, Capt. Walter E. (Lanark) |
| Barnett, Major Richard W. | Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. | Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) |
| Barnston, Major Harry | Cayzer. Sir C. (Chester, City) | Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. |
| Becker, Harry | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Eyres-Monsell. Com. Bolton M. |
| Berry, Sir George | Clarry. Reginald George | Falcon, Captain Michael |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Clayton, G. C. | Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray |
| Blades, Sir George Rowland | Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips | Fawkes, Major F. H. |
| Blundell, F. N. | Colvin, Brig. General Richard Beale | Ford, Patrick Johnston |
| Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. | Cope. Major William | Forestier-Walk"r, L. |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. | Courthope. Lieut.-Col. George L. | Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot |
| Brass, Captain W. | Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) | Furness, G. J. |
| Brassey, Sir Leonard | Crook, C. W. (East Ham, North) | Garland, C. S. |
| Bridgeman. Rt. Hon. William Clive | Curzon, Captain viscount | Goff, Sir R. Park |
| Gray. Harold (Cambridge) | Mercer, Colonel H. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Greene. Lt.-Col. Sir w. (Hack'y, N.) | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth. futney) |
| Greenwood, William (Stockport) | Moore, Major-General Sir Newton J. | Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A. |
| Guiness, Lieut. Col. Hon. W. E. | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut. Col. J. T. C. | Sanderson, Sir Frank B. |
| Gwynne, Rupert S. | Moreing, Captain Algernon H. | Sandon, Lord |
| Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) | Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) |
| Halstead. Major D. | Murchison, C. K. | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Harrison, Patrick Joseph Henry | Nail, Major Joseph | Simpson, J. Hope |
| Harrison, F. C. | Newman. Colonel J. R. P. {Finchley | Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South) |
| Harvey. Major S. E. | Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster) | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H. | Nield, Sir Herbert | Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H |
| Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh | Stanley, Lord |
| Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William | Steel, Major S. Strang |
| Hiley, Sir Ernest | Paget, T. G. | Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H. |
| Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Parker, Owen (Kettering) | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- |
| Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) | Pease, William Edwin | Sueter Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy | Pennefather, De Fonblanque | Sutcliffe, T. |
| Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Penny, Frederick George | Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley) |
| Hood, Sir Joseph | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen. S.) |
| Hopkins, John W. W. | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Titchfield, Marquess of |
| Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) | Philipson, Hilton | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K. | Pielou, D. P. | Tubbs, S. W. |
| Hudson, Capt A | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton | Turton, Edmund Russborough |
| Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) | Privett, F. J. | Waring, Major Walter |
| Inskip. Sir Thomas Walker H. | Raine, W. | Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington) |
| Jarrett, G. W. S. | Rankin, Captain James Stuart | Wells, S. R. |
| Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) | Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C. | Wheler, Col. Granville C. H. |
| Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham) | Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) | White. Col. G D. (Southport) |
| King, Captain Henry Douglas | Rentoul, G. S. | Winterton, Earl |
| Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Reynolds, W. G. W. | Wise, Frederick |
| Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. | Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) | Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon.) |
| Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. sir Philip | Robertson, J. D. (Islington, W.) | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Lorimer, H. D. | Roundell, Colonel R. F. | Yerburgh, R. D. T. |
| Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) | Ruggles-Brlse, Major E. | |
| Lumley, L. R. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) | Russell, William (Bolton) | Colonel Leslie Wilson and Colons Gibbs. |
| Margesson, K. D. R. | Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney |
§ 9.0 A.M.
Mr. THOMASI have just discovered that- a very serious incident has occurred, and I am sure all parts of the House will assist to remedy it. I have been informed that one of my hon. Friends, the Member for Pontypridd (Mr. Mardy Jones) has been taken advantage of, because of his stature. Unfortunately he walked into the wrong lobby, and I understand that he. was prevented from escaping. I do not suggest that it was done deliberately. If he had been like other hon. Members near me, he would have been able to defend himself, but owing to the fact that he was unable to defend himself, and also owing to the fact that he is a Welshman, I merely ask that the proper steps should be taken to see that Members are given an opportunity of exercising their rights and privileges.
§ Mr. BRIDGEMANI did not quite understand from the right hon. Gentleman whether the hon. Member for Pontypridd had missed an opportunity for recording his vote. My impression is that he did not. I did my best to secure that his exit should be possible, and that he got into the lobby to which he intended to go, but from which he had wandered by some error. If he did not get there in time to record his vote, I do not know 1598 that it would be possible for his vote to be recorded.
Mr. THOMASThe right hon. Gentleman has done what we all expected. In substance he has said that if an error was made, he will do his best to rectify it. Unfortunately, the last occasion on which I saw the hon. Member for Pontypridd he was in the company of the Home Secretary.
§ The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN (Captain FitzRoy)I understand that the hon. Member ultimately voted in the way he wanted to vote, so all is well.