HC Deb 08 March 1922 vol 151 cc1242-4
3. Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether it is proposed to terminate the News Department, as proposed by the Geddes Committee?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

In view of the importance of the work of the News Department, it has been decided that it ought in the public interest to be retained, but considerable economies are being effected in its administration.

Mr. LOCKER-LAMPSON

Is it not the fact that this was a Department set up for the purposes of the War, and, seeing that number of our diplomatic representatives has very largely increased, why is it necessary to continue that Department?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

It represents the relics of the old Ministry of Information and it is considered that we should retain what remains of it.

Mr. HURD

Would it not greatly increase the usefulness and efficiency of this Department if the members of it were nominated by the Newspaper Proprietors' Association or some other body entirely divorced from the Government?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

No, I do not agree. I think the gentlemen serving the Department are extremely efficient.

Colonel ASHLEY

Why is this Department necessary in 1922, when it was not wanted before the War?

Sir HARRY BRITTAIN

What is the strength of the staff of the Department?

Mr. MOLES

Could not the Department be abolished, and the information be circulated by—

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

On a point of Order. Are hon. Members who represent Ulster constituencies permitted to interfere in our affairs in this country?

Mr. SPEAKER

Certainly, as long as they are Members of the House. The details of this matter can be discussed on the Estimate.

4. Mr. LOCKER-LAMPSON

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether it is proposed to reduce the expenditure on telegrams, which on the revised Estimate is four times the pre-War expenditure?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

Every effort is made, and will continue to be made, to reduce the cost of telegrams, and, if possible, to keep it within the limit suggested by the Committee on National Expenditure. But the number of telegrams necessarily depends on the political situation in the world, and the amount of urgent diplomatic business to be done at any given time. It must also be borne in mind that the Foreign Office despatch telegrams abroad on behalf of other Government Departments over which they have no control, and that the cost of these telegrams also falls on the Diplomatic and Consular Vote.

5. Mr. LOCKER-LAMPSON

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many persons are employed on the special staff in ciphering and deciphering messages and carrying despatches abroad?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

The number employed is 30, of whom 15 are permanent, but non-pensionable, and 15 temporary. It is hoped to make some reduction in the temporary staff of the Department concerned in the course of the coming financial year.

Mr. LOCKER-LAMPSON

Is it not the fact that, before the War, instead of 30 there were only six King's Messengers, and that the whole of the cipher work was done by the ordinary staff of the Department?

Mr. HARMSWORTH

Yes, but the number of messages to be deciphered has vastly increased.