HC Deb 22 June 1921 vol 143 cc1351-3
47. Mr. W. CARTER

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the suspension of the Education Act of 1918 in certain areas owing to the expenses involved in bringing it into operation, the Government will suspend all naval construction and military enterprises, particularly those undertaken for the subjugation of Ireland, until the financial state of the country is such as to enable an adequate education to be provided for all its citizens?

Mr. CHAMBERLAIN

The answer is in the negative, but expenditure will be reduced in all Departments where reduction is compatible with the public interest.

Mr. CARTER

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there is a very strong feeling in the country that too much money is being spent on Army and Navy affairs, and too little on education?

Mr. CHAMBERLAIN

No, Sir. What is borne in upon me is that there is a very strong feeling in the country, as well as in the Government, that too much money is being spent altogether.

Captain W. BENN

Would the right hon. Gentleman lay a Paper showing the total charges involved in the administration in Ireland—naval, military, civil, police, and the rest?

Mr. CHAMBERLAIN

I think there is a question already on the Paper on that subject for to-morrow.

Mr. CARTER

Are we to understand from the answer that the present Government have ceased to consider the advisability of introducing any social reform that will cost money?

Mr. CHAMBERLAIN

No, Sir; but the hon. Member is to understand that the Government are benton securing economy, and reduction of expenditure, if that be possible.

Mr. CARTER

At the cost of the comfort and the education of the people? Is that economy?

Mr. DEVLIN

Is it the opinion of the right hon. Gentleman that the only expenditure that is justifiable by this House or in the country is expenditure upon the non-productive and dangerous purpose of subjugating and persecuting the Irish people?

Mr. CHAMBERLAIN

No, certainly not; but I do think that it is the first duty of any Government to give protection to its citizens.

108. Captain BENN

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he anticipates that his Estimates of Revenue and expenditure for the present year will be realised; and, if not, whether it will be necessary to present a revised Budget?

Sir R. HORNE

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the answer given yesterday by the Financial Secretary to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Peebles.

Captain BENN

Can the right hon. Gentleman give the House any indication of the extent to which the expenditure this year will exceed the estimate of expenditure in the Budget?

Sir R. HORNE

It is not possible to give such estimate at present.