§ No law made by the Parliament of Southern Ireland or the Parliament of Northern Ireland or, after the date of Irish union, by the Parliament of Ireland shall have effect so as to prejudice or diminish the rights or privileges of any existing or pensioned officer of a local authority under the provisions of the Local Government (Ireland) Acts, 1898 to 1919, or any Act relating to superannuation or retiring allowance.—[Mr. Reid.]
§ Brought up, and read the First time.
§ This is the Clause to which the Minister of Education just now referred. The object is the same as the Clause which is moved by my hon. Friend (Mr. Moles).
Captain CRAIGThere is an Amendment on the Paper to the Clause just negatived which I wish to move as an Amendment to this Clause. I should like to know whether I can still do that.
§ The DEPUTY-CHAIRMANThe question is that this Clause be read a Second time. Would it not be better that the hon. Member who is moving the Clause should explain it, and then when the Committee knows what it is I will put the Question, "That the Clause be read a Second time." Then if anyone wishes to amend it, an Amendment can be moved. That is the way in
§ which hon. Members can follow the discussion.
§ Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHYI beg to move, "That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again."
§ Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHYI think I am in order in moving that the Debate be now adjourned.
§ The CHAIRMANIt is a Motion to report Progress.
§ Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHYYes, and I put it with great respect to the Committee, and with the greatest respect to you, Sir, that we are going ahead at the rate that was never contemplated when the Government said they were going to take this Bill to-day. A Count was called almost as soon as the sitting began. A number of hon. Members, who are not of my party, but who are interested in this Bill, have Amendments down which they meant to move. I daresay it is their fault that they are not here; but I do put it to the Committee that if we wish this Bill in any way to be taken seriously by any part of Ireland—and that is the important thing—we want, at any rate, the North to be temporarily peaceful as a result of this Bill—it is indecent to proceed as we are doing with the Bill to-day.
§ Question put, "That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 2; Noes, 132.
2183| Division No. 344.] | AYES. | [3.20 p.m. |
| Entwistle, Major C. F. | Hogge, James Myles | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy and Major Barnes. | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Adair, Rear-Admiral Thomas B. S. | Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Coote, Colin Reith (Isle of Ely) |
| Allen, Lieut.-Colonel William James | Borwick, Major G. O. | Craig, Capt. C. C. (Antrim, South) |
| Amery, Lieut.-Col. Leopold C. M. S. | Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith- | Craig, Colonel Sir J. (Down, Mid) |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Cralk, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry |
| Baird, Sir John Lawrence | Breese, Major Charles E. | Curzon, Commander Viscount |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Brown, T. W. (Down, North) | Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan) |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Buchanan, Lieut.-Colonel A. L. H. | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) |
| Barnett, Major R. W. | Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James | Dixon, Captain Herbert |
| Barnston, Major Harry | Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) | Edge, Captain William |
| Barrand, A. R. | Burn, T. H. (Belfast, St. Anne's) | Edwards, Allen C. (East Ham, S.) |
| Barrie, Rt. Hon. H. T. (Lon'derry, N.) | Butcher, Sir John George | Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon) |
| Beckett, Hon. Gervase | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Birm., W.) | Edwards, Hugh (Glam., Neath) |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender | Eyres-Monsell, Commander B. M. |
| Bennett, Thomas Jewell | Coats, Sir Stuart | Fell, Sir Arthur |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale | Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. |
| Ford, Patrick Johnston | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Pratt, John William |
| Forrest, Walter | Law, Rt. Hon. A. B. (Glasgow, C.) | Pulley, Charles Thornton |
| Gibbs, Colonel George Abraham | Lewis, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Univ., Wales) | Purchase, H. G. |
| Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel John | Lewis, T. A. (Glam., Pontypridd) | Reid, D. D. |
| Grant, James A. | Lindsay, William Arthur | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, W.) | Lloyd-Greame, Major Sir P. | Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert A. |
| Greenwood, Colonel Sir Hamar | Lonsdale, James Roiston | Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton) |
| Greig, Colonel James William | Loseby, Captain C. E. | Seddon, J. A. |
| Hamilton, Major C. G. C. | Lynn, R. J. | Shortt, Rt. Hon. E. (N'castle-on-T.) |
| Hanna, George Boyle | M'Donald, Dr. Bouverle F. P. | Simm, M. T. |
| Harmsworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton) | Macdonald, Rt. Hon. John Murray | Sprot, Colonel Sir Alexander |
| Harris, Sir Henry Percy | M'Guffin, Samuel | Sturrock, J. Leng |
| Haslam, Lewis | McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) | Taylor, J. |
| Henderson, Major V. L. (Tradeston) | Marriott, John Arthur Ransome | Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley) |
| Henry, Denis S. (Londonderry, S.) | Moles, Thomas | Thomas-Stanford, Charles |
| Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Morison, Rt. Hon. Thomas Brash | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Hinds, John | Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert | Ward, William Dudley (Southampton) |
| Hope, James F. (Sheffield, Central) | Neal, Arthur | Wason, John Cathcart |
| Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian) | Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) | Whitla, Sir William |
| Hopkins, John W. W. | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Wills, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Gilbert |
| Hunter, General Sir A. (Lancaster) | Nicholson, Reginald (Doncaster) | Wilson, Colonel Leslie O. (Reading) |
| Hurst, Lieut.-Colonel Gerald B. | Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G. | Wilson-Fox, Henry |
| Inskip, Thomas Walker H. | O'Neill, Major Hon. Robert W. H. | Woolcock, William James U. |
| James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert | Ormsby-Gore, Captain Hon. W. | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Jesson, C. | Parker, James | Yate, Colonel Charles Edward |
| Jodrell, Neville Paul | Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry | Young, Lieut.-Com. E. H. (Norwich) |
| Jones, Sir Edgar R. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Percy, Charles | Younger, Sir George |
| Jones, J. T. (Carmarthen, Llanelly) | Pinkham, Lieut.-Colonel Charles | |
| Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George | Pollock, Sir Ernest M. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Kerr-Smiley, Major Peter Kerr | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton | Lord E. Talbot and Captain Guest. |
Question put, and agreed to.
§ Question again proposed, "That the Clause be read a Second time."
§ Amendment made: At the end of the Clause add the words "or of any existing or pensioned officer of a university or college under the provisions of Sub-section