HC Deb 08 October 1912 vol 42 cc161-71
Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

There is just one correction I have to make in the Notice of Motion which appears on the Paper as to the allocation of time for the Government of Ireland Bill. On looking through the Order Paper I find a mistake has been made in allocating the time. On the Report stage seven days should be substituted for five, and I will have the necessary correction made.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

I wish to ask you, Mr. Speaker, whether the notice which stands in the name of the Prime Minister is in order. It appears to consist of a notice of two, if not three, different Motions. The first Motion is that Government business should have precedence of all other Orders of the Day, to-morrow, and on Friday. Then there is a second Motion, "and that this day and to-morrow the proceedings upon the Temperance (Scotland) Bill be not interrupted under the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)." The first point I desire to submit to you is that these two Motions are entirely separate and distinct, that there ought to have been separate notices given, and that they ought to be separate Motions. The second point is that the second part of the Motion appears to contemplate the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule both for to-day and to-morrow. Under the Standing Order it is not competent for a Minister of the Crown to move to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule to-morrow, except under the ordinary conditions of a Motion and not under the condition of that Standing Order. I wish to ask whether this Motion will therefore be capable of being debated in the ordinary way in which any other Motion is debated.

Mr. SPEAKER

Certainly, the Motion can be debated. If the Noble Lord finds himself in any doubt as to how to vote upon it I shall be very glad to put it as two Questions.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

I should ask that the Question as to the precedence of

Government business should be put as a separate Question, and then that we should discuss the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That Government business shall have precedence of all other Orders of the Day and of Notices of Motions To-morrow and on Friday."—[The Chancellor of the Exchequer.]

Lord ROBERT CECIL

I wish to ask the Government what is the meaning of this Notice of Motion—why it is necessary to have such a Motion at all at this stage of the Session I daresay there is a reason why such a Motion is necessary in order that Government business should have precedence to-morrow and on Friday. I do not myself fully understand why that should be so, and I should be glad if the Government would give some explanation of the point.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I understand the reason is that after Michaelmas the rights of private Members on Wednesday and Friday revert to them. It is, therefore, necessary in order to give precedence to Government business on Wednesday and Friday, to have a Motion of this kind.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

Private Members have no rights of precedence on the whole of Wednesday, but they have on Wednesday evening.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

That is so, and therefore it is necessary that this Motion should be passed if Government business is to have precedence. The same thing applies to Friday.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

I should have thought that the Motion was not well drafted because it asks precedence for Government business on Wednesday. The Government have precedence at any period of the Session on Wednesday. What they have not got is precedence on Wednesday evening.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I am told that this is the regular form, and that we are following the usual precedent.

Question put.

The House divided: Ayes, 254; Noes,105.

Division No. 213.] AYES. [3.12 P.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Beck, Arthur Cecil
Acland, Francis Dyke Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Benn, W. W. (T. H'mts, St. George)
Adamson, William Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) Bentham, G. J.
Addison, Dr. C. Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Bethell, Sir J. H.
Armitage, Robert Barnes, G. N. Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine
Arnold, Sydney Beauchamp, Sir Edward Boland, John Pius
Booth, Frederick Handel Hughes, Spencer Leigh Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Brace, William Jardine, Sir John (Roxburgh) Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M.
Brady, Patrick Joseph John, Edward Thomas Pease, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Rotherham)
Brunner, John F. L. Jones, Rt. Hon. Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea) Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Bryce, J. Annan Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Pirie, Duncan Vernon
Burke, E. Haviland- Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Pollard, Sir George H.
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Power, Patrick Joseph
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, N.) Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Buxton, Rt. Hon. S. C. (Poplar) Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts, Stepney) Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Byles, Sir William Pollard Jowett, Frederick William Pringle, William M. R.
Carr-Gomm, H. W, Joyce, Michael Radford, George Heynes
Cawley, H. T. (Lancs., Heywood) Keating, Matthew Raffan, Peter Wilson
Chancellor, Henry George Kellaway, Frederick George Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Kelly, Edward Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough)
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Kennedy, Vincent Paul Reddy, Michael
Clancy, John Joseph King, Joseph Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Clough, William Lamb, Ernest Henry Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.)
Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Rendall, Atheistan
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Lansbury, George Richards, Thomas
Condon, Thomas Joseph Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Cotton, William Francis Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rid, Cockerm'th) Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Crumley, Patrick Leach, Charles Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Cullinan, John Levy, Sir Maurice Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Daizlel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Lewis, John Herbert Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Logan, John William Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson, Sidney
Delany, William Lundon, Thomas Roch, Walter F.
Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas Lyell, Charles Henry Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Donelan, Captain A. Lynch, Arthur Alfred Roe, Sir Thomas
Doris, William Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Rowlands, James
Duffy, William Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W.
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) McGhee, Richard Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Maclean, Donald Samuel, J. (Stockton)
Elverston, Sir Harold Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Scanlan, Thomas
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) MacNeill, John G. S. (Donegal, South) Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Macpherson, James Ian Seely, Rt. Hon. Col. J. E. B.
Essex, Richard Walter McCallum, Sir John M. Sheeny, David
Esslemont, George Birnie McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Sherwell, Arthur James
Falconer, James M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lincs., Spalding) Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Farrell, James Patrick M'Micking, Major Gilbert Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Manfield, Harry Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson Marks, Sir George Croydon Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Ffrench, Peter Mason, David M. (Coventry) Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, W.)
Field, William Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Sutherland, John E.
Flavin, Michael Joseph Meagher, Michael Sutton, John E.
Geldér, Sir W. A. Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) Taylor, John W. (Durham)
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd Menzies, Sir Walter Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Gladstone, W. G. C. Millar, James Duncan Tennant, Harold John
Glanville, Harold James Molloy, Michael Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Molteno, Percy Alport Thorne, William (West Ham)
Goldstone, Frank Mond, Sir Alfred M. Toulmin, Sir George
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Money, L. G. Chiozza Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Greig, Colonel James William Mooney, John J. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Morgan, George Hay Verney, Sir H.
Griffith, Ellis Jones Morrell, Philip Wadsworth, J.
Guest, Hon. Frederick (Dorset, E.) Morison, Hector Walton, Sir Joseph
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Hackett, John Muidoon, John Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Munro, Robert Wason, J. Cathcart (Orkney)
Hancock, J. G. Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. Watt, Henry A.
Harcourt, Rt. Hon. L. (Rossendale) Nannetti, Joseph P. Webb, H.
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Needham, Christopher T. Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) Nolan, Joseph White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Havclock-Allan, Sir Henry O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Whitehouse, John Howard
Hayden, John Patrick O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Whyte, A. F. (Perth)
Hayward, Evan O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Wilkie, Alexander
Hazleton, Richard O'Doherty, Philip Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Helme, Sir Norval Watson O'Donnell, Thomas Williamson, Sir A.
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Dowd, John Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Henry, Sir Charles O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Higham, John Sharp O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.)
Hinds, John O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.)
Hogge, James Myles O'Shee, James John
Holmes, Daniel Turner O'Sullivan, Timothy TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr.
Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) Outhwaite, R. L. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland.
Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Parker, James (Halifax)
NOES.
Ashley, Wilfrid W, Banbury, Sir Frederick George Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.)
Baird, J. L. Barnston, H. Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton)
Balcarres, Lord Barrie, H. T. Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth)
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Forster, Henry William Newman, John R. P.
Beresford, Lord Charles Gardner, Ernest Nield, Herbert
Bigland, Alfred Gastrell, Major W. Houghton Norton-Griffiths, J.
Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell Goldsmith, Frank O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim)
Bridgeman, William Clive Colliding, Edward Alfred Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Bull, Sir William James Grant, James Augustus Paget, Almeric Hugh
Burgoyne, Alan Hughes Gretton, John Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Burn, Colonel C. R. Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Parkes, Ebenezer
Campion, W. R. Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Hall, Marshall (E. Toxteth) Peto, Basil Edward
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) Pollock, E. M.
Cassel, Felix Harris, Henry Percy Pryce-Jones, Col. E.
Cator, John Henderson, Major H. (Berkshire) Quilter, Sir W. E. C.
Cautley, Henry Strother Herbert, Hon, A. (Somerset, S.) Randies, Sir John S.
Cave, George Hewins, William Albert Samuel Remnant, James Farquharson
Ceci, Lord Robert (Herts, Hitchin) Hills, Sir Clement L. Rutherford, John (Lancs., Darwen)
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Hills, John Waller (Durham) Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Clyde, James Avon Hoare, Samuel John Gurney Sanders, Robert Arthur
Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham Hope, Harry (Bute) Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Cooper, Richard Ashmole Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Staveley-Hill, Henry
Courthope, George Loyd Houston, Robert Paterson Stewart, Gershom
Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) Hunter, Sir Charles Rodk. (Bath) Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Kebty-Fletcher, J. R. Talbot, Lord Edmund
Craik, Sir Henry Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr Terrell, George (Wilts., N.W.)
Croft, Henry Page Kerry, Earl of Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, N.)
Denniss, E. R. B. Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) Winterton, Earl
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Lewisham, Viscount Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon)
Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Mackinder, Halford J. Yate, Col. C. E.
Falle, Bertram Godlray Macmaster, Donald Younger, Sir George
Fell, Arthur Malcolm, Ian
Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Mallaby-Deeley, Harry TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Marquess of Tullibardine and Sir J. D. Rees.
Fletcher, John Samuel Neville, Reginald J, N,

Motion made and Question proposed, "That this day and to-morrow the proceedings upon the Temperance (Scotland) Bill be not interrupted under the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."

Sir FREDERICK BANBURY

I beg to propose, as an Amendment, to leave out the words "and to-morrow." I regret that I was not in the House a moment ago when the Government attempted to alter our forms of procedure and smuggle through a Resolution in a manner in which it has never before been done.

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Baronet cannot make the speech now which he ought to have made on the last Motion.

Sir F. BANBURY

This is only preliminary to the observations which I intend to make upon the Question now before the House. The reason I made the observation was we contend that having done one disorderly thing the Government are now proposing to do a second disorderly thing, and that is what we object to. If the Government had been content to bring in a Motion to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule to-night, and another Motion to-morrow to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule, provided it was necessary so to do, they could have done so without committing a great breach of the Rules of the House. Why should we decide to-day to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule to-morrow? How can we know that at three or four o'clock tomorrow we shall not have finished, and that therefore it will be unnecessary to pass a Resolution to this effect? I would appeal to hon. Members below the Gangway to support this Amendment, that is assuming the Government do not accept it, which is, of course, a possibility, so as to help to protect the freedom of private Members. It may be that very soon hon. Members below the Gangway will be sitting on this side, and then they will be glad that they exercised a little foresight, and did something to preserve the rights of private Members, to whatever politics they belong.

The main question, however, is: Why should we suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule at all for the Scottish Temperance Bill? We have only returned from a very short vacation. [HON. MEMBERS: "Oh!"] I challenge any hon. Member to get up and say that the two months during which we have enjoyed opportunities for health and recreation were too long. I do not think that such a suggestion would find a single supporter on the Government Front Bench. Why, then, at the beginning of a Session, which may last until next March, should we begin by suspending the Eleven o'clock Rule? That Rule was passed in the interests of labour Members, and all hon. Members who were in the House in 1906 will bear me out in that. I am not objecting to what was done. I am always very pleased to meet hon. Members in these matters when I think that it is also of advantage to myself. I am not objecting to the Eleven o'clock Rule. But let us adjourn at eleven. Do not let us pretend to new Members coming into the House that they will not have to sit after eleven, and then the moment we come back here have them finding that the Eleven o'clock Rule is going to be suspended.

Why this hurry? We are going to stay here until March. Why not, then, take time to consider carefully Scottish temperance? It is a subject of great interest to Scottish Members, and I want to hear their opinions upon it; but I do not want to hear them at three or four o'clock in the morning, when I am sleepy and when I shall not be able to give that weight which I always attach to the views of Members from Scotland. I ask the Government, at any rate, to proceed in a much more gentle manner. Fortunately they have put down this Motion in a way which will enable us to discuss it, and it is open to any hon. Member to show reason why he thinks I am wrong. Let me appeal to the Government to show a little consideration to those whose shoulders are tender after not having worn the collar for two months, and not to keep us out of our beds during the small hours of the morning so soon after our return from a pleasant vacation.

Mr. HAROLD SMITH

I beg to second the Amendment.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (Mr. Lloyd George)

The arguments of the hon. Baronet are so irresistible, and the geniality of his appeal to the Government is such that I cannot find in my heart to resist the Amendment.

Mr. SCOTT DICKSON

I think the concession made by tire Government only serves to show how little consideration the Government have given to this matter. I suppose that if they had given any attention to it they would never have put down the Motion in the form in which it stands on the Paper. They are so very busy arranging their differences about land values that they have no time to consider how the business of the House should be

conducted. It is only another instance proving that the Government give no-thought or consideration to our business.

Sir G. YOUNGER

I endorse the remarks made by my right hon. Friend. I am not at all surprised that the right hon. Gentleman opposite has conceded the Amendment of my hon. Friend the Member for the City of London (Sir F. Banbury). If there is one man in this House who has very little sympathy with this Bill' it is the Chancellor of the Exchequer, after what he has done to the licensed trade.

Mr. SPEAKER

Those observations are not relevant to this Motion.

Sir G. YOUNGER

I beg pardon. What I want to say is that I do not see why there should be any undue haste in pressing forward this measure in the small hours of the morning. It is one of great importance, and it is only right that there should be adequate reports of our proceedings; but if we are to be kept here until any hour of the morning to suit the convenience of the Secretary for Scotland, we cannot have those reports published in Scotland where the people will be ill-informed as to the trend of opinion in the House of Commons. At the present moment, I understand, the Prime Minister is receiving a deputation on this subject. A good deal may arise out of that interview, and it seems somewhat unreasonable and improper to push on this measure with only the shortest possible notice. It was only on the last day of the Summer Sitting that we were told this Bill was to be taken on our reassembling, and yesterday was our first opportunity to get Members together to consider Amendments. The whole thing has been most indecently and unfairly brought forward, and I object entirely to-the action of the Government.

Amendment put, and agreed to.

Main Question, as amended, put, "That this day the proceedings upon the Temperance (Scotland) Bill be not interrupted under the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."

The House divided: Ayes, 262; Noes, 108.

Division No. 214.] AYES. [3.35 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Armitage, Robert Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark)
Acland, Francis Dyke Arnold, Sydney Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple)
Adamson, William Atherley-Jones, Llewellyn A. Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset)
Addison, Dr. C. Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Barnes, G. N.
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Hinds, John O'Sullivan, Timothy
Beck, Arthur Cecil Hodge, John Outhwaite, R. L.
Benn, W. W. (T. H'mts, St. George) Hogge, James Myles Parker, James (Halifax)
Bentham, G. J. Holmes, Daniel Turner Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Bethell, Sir J. H. Horne, Charles Silvester (Ipswich) Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Boland, John Pius Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Booth, Frederick Handel Hughes, Spencer Leigh Pirie, Duncan Vernon
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Pollard, Sir George H.
Brace, William Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Brady, Patrick Joseph John, Edward Thomas Power, Patrick Joseph
Brunner, John F. L. Jones, Rt. Hon. Sir D. Brynmor (Sw'nsea) Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Bryce, J. Annan Jones, Edgar R. (Merthyr Tydvil) Price, Sir R. J. (Norfolk, E.)
Burke, E. Havlland.- Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Pringle, William M. R.
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) Radford, George Heynes
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Raffan, Peter Wilson
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Buxton, Rt. Hon. S. C. (Poplar) Jones, W. S. Glyn- (Stepney) Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough)
Byles, Sir William Pollard Jowett, Frederick William Reddy, Michael
Carr-Gomm, H. W. Joyce, Michael Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) Keating, Matthew Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.)
Chancellor, Henry George Kellaway, Frederick George Rendall, Athelstan
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Kelly, Edward Richards, Thomas
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Kennedy, Vincent Paul Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Clancy, John Joseph King, Joseph Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Clough, William Lamb, Ernest Henry Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Roberts, George H. (Norwich)
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Lansbury, George Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Cotton, William Francis Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rid, Cockerm'th) Robinson, Sidney
Crumley, Patrick Leach, Charles Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Cullinan, John Lewis, John Herbert Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Logan, John William Roe, Sir Thomas
Davies, E. William (Eifion) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Rowlands, James
Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W.
Delany, William Lundon, Thomas Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Denman, Hon. R. D. Lyell, Charles Henry Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Donelan, Captain A. Lynch, Arthur Alfred Scanlan, Thomas
Doris, William Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Scott, A. McCallum (Glas., Bridgeton)
Duffy, William J. Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) McGhee, Richard Sheeny, David
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Maclean, Donald Sherwell, Arthur James
Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Elverston, Sir Harold MacNeill, John G. S. (Donegal, South) Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Macpherson, James Ian Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) M'Callum, Sir John M. Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Essex, Richard Walter McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West)
Esslemont, George Birnie M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lincs., Spalding) Sutherland, John E.
Falconer, James M'Micking, Major Gilbert Sutton, John E.
Farrell, James Patrick Manfield, Harry Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Tenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Marks, Sir George Croydon Taylor, T. C. (Radcliffe)
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson Mason, David M. (Coventry) Tennant, Harold John
Ffrench, Peter Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Field, William Meagher, Michael Thorne, William (West Ham)
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) Toulmin, Sir George
Flavin, Michael Joseph Menzies, Sir Walter Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Gelder, Sir William Alfred Millar, James Duncan Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd Molloy, Michael Verney, Sir Harry
Ginnell, Laurence Molteno, Percy Alport Wadsworth, J.
Gladstone, W. G. C. Mond, Sir Alfred M. Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince)
Glanville, Harold James Money, L. G. Chiozza Walton, Sir Joseph
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Mooney, John J. Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Goldstone, Frank Morgan, George Hay Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Morrell, Philip Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Greig, Colonel James William Morison, Hector Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Watt, Henry A.
Griffith, Ellis Jones Muldoon, John Webb, H.
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Munro, Robert Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Hackett, John Nannetti, Joseph P. White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Needham, Christopher T. Whitehouse, John Howard
Hancock, J. G. Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) Whyte, A. F.
Harcourt, Rt. Hon. L. (Rossendale) Nolan, Joseph Wilkie, Alexander
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Williamson, Sir A.
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry O'Doherty, Philip Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Hayden, John Patrick O'Donnell, Thomas Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow)
Hayward, Evan O'Dowd, John Young, Samuel (Cavan, East)
Mazleton, Richard O'Grady, James
Helme, Sir Norval Watson O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.)
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland.
Henry, Sir Charles O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Higham, John Sharp O'Shee, James John
NOES.
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Denniss, E. R. B. Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey)
Baird, John Lawrence Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (S. Geo., Han. S.)
Balcarres, Lord Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Mackinder, Halford J.
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Falle, Bertram Godfray Macmaster, Donald
Barnston, Harry Fell, Arthur Malcolm, Ian
Barrie, H. T. Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Mallaby-Deeley, Harry
Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.) Fletcher, John Samuel Neville, Reginald J. N.
Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) Forster, Henry William Nield, Herbert
Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Gardner, Ernest Norton-Griffiths, J.
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Gastrell, Major W. Houghton O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid)
Beresford, Lord Charles Goldsmith, Frank Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Bigland, Alfred Goulding, Edward Alfred Paget, Almeric Hugh
Boyton, James Grant, J. A. Parkes, Ebenezer
Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell Gretton, John Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Bridgeman, William Clive Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Peto, Basil Edward
Bull, Sir William James Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Pollock, Ernest Murray
Burgoyne, Alan Hughes Hall, Marshall (E, Toxteth) Pryce-Jones, Colonel E.
Burn, Colonel C. R. Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington) Quilter, Sir W. E. C.
Campion, W. R. Harris, Henry Percy Randles, Sir John S.
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Rees, Sir J. D.
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Henderson, Major H. (Berkshire) Remnant, James Farquharson
Cassel, Felix Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) Rutherford, John (Lancs., Darwen)
Cator, John Hewins, William Albert Samuel Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Cautley, Henry Strother Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. Sanders, Robert Arthur
Cave, George Hill, Sir Clement L. Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Hills, John Waller Staveley-Hill, Henry
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Hoare, Samuel John Gurney Stewart, Gershom
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Hope, Harry (Bute) Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Clyde, James Avon Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Talbot, Lord Edmund
Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham Houston, Robert Paterson Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Cooper, Richard Ashmole Hunter, Sir Charles Rodk. Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E.R.)
Courthope, George Loyd Kebty-Fletcher, J. R. Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon)
Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) Kerr-Smlley, Peter Kerr Yate, Col. C. E.
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Kerry, Earl of Younger, Sir George
Craik, Sir Henry Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Croft, H. P. Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Marquess of Tuilibardine and Earl Winterton.
Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) Lewisham, Viscount

Question, "That the Clause, as amended, be added to the Bill," put, and agreed to.