HC Deb 31 July 1912 vol 41 cc2193-7

Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the outstanding Resolution reported in respect of

Class IV. of the Civil Services Estimates."

The House divided: Ayes, 316; Noes, 174.

Division No. 180.] AYES. [10.35 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Bowerman, C. W.
Acland, Francis Dyke Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North)
Adamson, William Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Brace, William
Addison, Dr. C. Barnes, G. N. Brady, Patrick Joseph
Agnew, Sir George Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick B.) Brocklehurst, William B.
Alden, Percy Beale, Sir William Phipson Brunner, J. F. L.
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbarton) Beauchamp, Sir Edward Bryce, J. Annan
Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) Beck, Arthur Cecil Buckmaster, Stanley O.
Armitage, R. Bentham, G. J. Burke, E. Haviland-
Arnold, Sydney Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Burns, Rt. Hon. John
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Black, Arthur W. Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) Boland, John Pius Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North)
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Booth, Frederick Handel Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar)
Byles, Sir William Pollard Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Nugent, Sir Walter Richard
Cameron, Robert Henderson, J. McD. (Aberdeen, W.) Nuttall, Harry
Carr-Gomm, H. W. Henry, Sir Charles O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Hon., S.) O'Connor, John Kildare, N.)
Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) Higham, John Sharp O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool)
Chancellor, Henry George Hinds, John O'Donnell, Thomas
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. O'Dowd, John
Clancy, John Joseph Hodge, John Ogden, Fred
Clough, William Hogge, James Myles O'Grady, James
Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Holmes, Daniel Turner O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W)
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Holt, Richard Durning O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.)
Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Hope, John Deans (Haddington) O'Malley, William
Condon, Thomas Joseph Home, Charles Silvester (Ipswich) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Cotton, William Francis Hudson, Walter O'Shee, James John
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Illingworth, Percy H. O'Sullivan, Timothy
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Outhwaite, R. L.
Crooks, William Jardine, Sir John (Roxburgh) Palmer, Godfrey Mark
Crumley, Patrick John, Edward Thomas Parker, James (Halifax)
Cullinan, John Jones, Rt.Hon.Sir D.Brynmor (Sw'nsea) Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Davies, E. William (Eifion) Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts, Stepney) Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton)
Davies, Timothy (Louth) Jowett, Frederick William Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Dawes, J. A. Joyce, Michael Pirie, Duncan V.
De Forest, Baron Keating, M. Pointer, Joseph
Delany, William Kellaway, Frederick George Pollard, Sir George H.
Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas Kelly, Edward Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Devlin, Joseph Kennedy, Vincent Paul Power, Patrick Joseph
Dickinson, W. H. Kilbride, Denis Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Dillon, John King, J. (Somerset, North) Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Donelan, Captain A. Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) Priestley, Sir Arthur (Grantham)
Doris, William Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Duffy, William J. Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Pringle, William M. R.
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rlnd, Cock'rmth) Radford, G. H.
Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Leach, Charles Raffan, Peter Wilson
Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of Levy, Sir Maurice Raphael, Sir Herbert Henry
Elverston, Sir Harold Lewis, John Herbert Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Lundon, T. Reddy, M.
Essex, Richard Walter Lyell, Charles Henry Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Falconer, J. Lynch, A. A. Redmond, William (Clare)
Farrell, James Patrick Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) Rendall, Athelstan
Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson McGhee, Richard Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Ffrench, Peter Maclean, Donald Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Field, William Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward MacNeill, John G. S. (Donegal, South) Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Fitzgibbon, John Macpherson, James Ian Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Flavin, Michael Joseph MacVeagh, Jeremiah Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
France, G. A. McCallum, Sir John M. Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Furness, Stephen M'Curdy, Charles Albert Roe, Sir Thomas
Gelder, Sir W. A. McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Rowlands, James
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Leics.) Rowntree, Arnold
Gill, A. H. M'Laren, Hon. F. W. S. (Lincs., Spalding) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Gladstone, W. G. C. Manfield, Harry Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Glanville, H. J. Markham, Sir Arthur Basil Samuel, J. (Stockton)
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Marks, Sir George Croydon Samuel, Sir Stuart M. (Whitechapel)
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Marshall, Arthur Harold Scanlan, Thomas
Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) Martin, Joseph Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E.
Greig, Colonel James William Mason, David M. (Coventry) Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Sheehy, David
Griffith, Ellis J. Meagher, Michael Sherwell, Arthur James
Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim) Shortt, Edward
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Middlebrook, William Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Gulland, John William Molloy, M. Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Hackett, J. Molteno, Percy Alport Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton)
Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Mond, Sir Alfred M. Smyth, Thomas F.
Hancock, John George Money, L. G. Chiozza Snowden, P.
Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) Mooney, J. J. Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Morgan, George Hay Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Hardie, J. Keir Morrell, Philip Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.)
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Morison, Hector Summers, James Woolley
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Sutherland, J. E.
Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) Muldoon, John Sutton, John E.
Harwood, George Munro, R. Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Murray, Capt. Hon. A. C. Thomas, James Henry (Derby)
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Nannetti, Joseph Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Hayden, John Patrick Needham, Chrisopher T. Thorne, William (West Ham)
Hayward, Evan Neilson, Francis Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Hazleton. Richard (Galway, N.) Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Helme, Sir Norval Watson Nolan, Joseph Verney, Sir Harry
Hemmerde, Edward George Norton, Capt. Cecil W. Wadsworth, John
Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) Whyte, A. F. (Perth) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Walters, Sir John Tudor Wiles, Thomas Winfrey, Richard
Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) Wilkie, Alexander Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.)
Wardle, George J. Williams, J. (Glamorgan) Young, William (Perth, East)
Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay Williamson, Sir Archibald Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Webb, H. Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Wedgwood, Josiah C. Wilson, John (Durham, Mid) W. Jones and Mr. Wedgwood Benn.
White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston) Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.)
White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E.R.)
NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Paget, Almeric, Hugh
Aitken, Sir William Max Fitzroy, Hon. E. A. Parkes, Ebenezer
Ashley, W. W. Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Astor, Waldorf Fleming, Valentine Peel, Captain R. F. (Woodbridge)
Baird, J. L. Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) Perkins, Walter F.
Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) Gastrell, Major W. H. Pole-Carew, Sir R. (Cornwall, Bodmin)
Balcarres, Lord Gibbs, G. A. Pollock, Ernest Murray
Baldwin, Stanley Gilmour, Captain John Pretyman, Ernest George
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Glazebrook, Capt. P. K. Pryce-Jones, Col. E. (M'tgomy B'ghs)
Banner, John S. Harmood- Goldsmith, Frank Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Baring, Maj. Hon. Guy V. (Winchester) Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) Rawson, Colonel R. H.
Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) Greene, W. R. Rees, Sir J. D.
Barnston, Harry Gretton, John Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Barrie, H. T. Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) Rolleston, Sir John
Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) Guinness, Hon.W.E. (Bury S.Edmunds Ronaldshay, Earl of
Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Rutherford, John (Lancs., Darwen)
Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Rutherford, W. (Liverpool, W. Derby)
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Beresford, Lord C. Harris, Henry Percy Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Bigland, Alfred Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Sanders, Robert A.
Bird, A. Helmsley, Viscount Sandys, G. J. (Somerset, Wells)
Boles, Lieut.-Col. Dennis Fortescue Henderson, Major H. (Berks) Scott, Leslie (Liverpool, Exchange)
Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith- Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Boyle, W. L. (Norfolk, Mid) Hill, Sir Clement L. (Shrewsbury) Spear, Sir John Ward
Bridgeman, W. Clive Hill-Wood, Samuel Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Bull, Sir William James Hohler, G. F. Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Burn, Col. C. R. Hope, Harry (Bute) Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire)
Butcher, J. G. Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Houston, Robert Paterson Stewart, Gershom
Cassel, Felix Hume-Williams, William Ellis Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Castlereagh, Viscount Hunter, Sir C. R. (Bath) Swift, Rigby
Cator, John Ingleby, Holcombe Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Cautley, H. S. Jackson, Sir John Talbot, Lord Edmund
Cave, George Jardine, E. (Somerset, E.) Terrell, George (Wilts, N.W.)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Jessel, Captain H. M. Terrell, Henry (Gloucester)
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, North)
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Kerry, Earl of Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Chambers, James Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Touche, George Alexander
Clay, Captain H. Spender Lane-Fox, G. R. Valentia, Viscount
Clive, Captin Percy Archer Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts., Mile End) Walker, Col. William Hall
Clyde, J. Avon Lewisham, Viscount Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Coatas, Major Sir Edward Feetham Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Wheler, Granville C. H.
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport)
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude
Craik, Sir Henry MacCaw, William J. MacGeagh Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E.R.)
Dalrymple, Viscount Mackinder, Halford J. Winterton, Earl
Dalziel, D. (Brixton) Macmaster, Donald Wolmer, Viscount
Denniss, E. R. B. McNeill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine) Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon)
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Magnus, Sir Philip Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Du Cros, Arthur Philip Malcolm, Ian Worthington-Evans, L.
Duke, Henry Edward Mason, James F. (Windsor) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas Wright, Henry Fitzherbert
Faber, George D. (Clapham) Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) Yate, Col. C. E.
Faber, Captain W. V. (Hants, W.) Newdegate, F. A. Younger, Sir George
Falle, B. G. Nield, Herbert TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Fell, Arthur Norton-Griffiths, John Haddock and Mr. W. E. Horne.
Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid)
Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A.

Question, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the outstanding Resolutions reported in respect of Class VI. of the Civil Services Estimates," put, and agreed to.

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