§ All existing laws, institutions, and authorities in Ireland, whether judicial, administrative, or Ministerial, and all existing taxes in Ireland, shall, except as otherwise provided by this Act, continue as if this Act had not passed, but with the modifications necessary for adapting them to this Act, and subject, as respects matters within the powers of the Irish Parliament under this Act, to repeal, abolition, alteration, and adaptation in the manner and to the extent authorised by this Act.
331§ Mr. CASSELI beg to move to leave out the word "institutions" ["All existing laws, institutions, and authorities"].
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I think this is merely a drafting Amendment. I should like to have an explanation from the right hon. Gentleman as to what is meant by the word "institutions" in the Clause. It seems to me that it is really an unparliamentary word—perhaps unparliamentary is not the right expression, but an unsuitable word for an Act of Parliament. The word "institutions" seems to me to be extremely wide. It might cover a home for lost cats, a Masonic institution, or even an annual dinner. It seems to me we should have the right word, because of the general words which follow. It seems to me that the word "authorities" is quite sufficient for the purpose which the right hon. Gentleman has in view, and that "institutions" is wholly unnecessary. The right hon. Gentleman himself might be described as a Ministerial institution, but I should prefer to regard him as a Ministerial authority. I move the Amendment in order to elicit from the Government an explanation of the necessity of using this rather unusual word in an Act of Parliament and of what they have in their minds which is not already sufficiently covered by the word authority.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELThe hon. and learned Gentleman asks me what things there ought to be continued which are judicial, administrative, or Ministerial which are not governed by the word "authority," and he has given as particular instances of the things that might hi considered institutions for the purposes of the Bill which are covered by the word "authority," myself and my right hon. Friend. I should certainly say that the Pcstmaster-General was in authority. My right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary has certainly raised himself in this House to the level of an institution. However that may be, the contrary instances I will give are such as these. Take, for example, the whole judicial system in Ireland. You might say that the whole system of Law Courts in Ireland is more than a mere authority. Another institution which has been quoted frequently in these Debates during the last few days, and is not covered by the word "authority," is the Marlborough Street Training College. That is not an administrative authority 332 nor an administrative law. Then there are the cases of the Registry of Deeds and the local registry of title, things which might be held not to be covered by the word "authority," and are certainly covered by the word "institution." For these reasons we have followed the precedent of the Bill 1893 and included this term "institution." The hon. and learned Gentleman says that the term may cover a great deal more—for instance, a cricket club dinner or something of that kind. But that will not matter in the least because the Bill does not continue them in existence. All the Bill says is that the institution shall continue as if this Act had not passed—in other words, that the Act shall not affect them. The disastrous consequences which the hon. Member foresees as affecting various institutions of a convivial kind cannot occur under this Clause.
§ Amendment negatived.
§ Mr. JOYNSON-HICKSI beg to propose to leave out the words "but with the modifications necessary for adapting them to this Act."
By this Clause all existing laws and institutions, including the Irish Secretary himself, all authorities in Ireland, judicial, administrative and Ministerial, and all existing taxes in Ireland, shall, except as otherwise provided, continue as if this Act had not passed, but with the modifications necessary for adapting them to this Act. It seems to me that those words if left in will simply mean that every existing law and institution is subject to alteration in any way whatever to make it adaptable to this Act. By whom is this modification to be made? Is the new Irish Government to adapt the existing Acts, taxes and institutions in Ireland to this Act? Is it to have full control over all existing laws and taxes in spite of all the efforts made under this Bill up to the present? Somebody must be the judge as to when the particular modification is necessary for adaptation to this Act. Who is to be that judge? Suppose the new Executive in Ireland desires to make a modification of an existing institution. Take the illustration which has been given by the Postmaster-General, the whole judicial system of Ireland. Under the provisions of this Clause the whole judicial system should be modified so far as may be necessary for the purposes of this Act. Who is to decide what modifications are necessary? The Amendment needs very careful consideration on the part of the Government. Unless the 333 Government is able to assure us that the words do not mean what they seem—which is an assurance that, they will have great difficulty in giving us—then these words should be omitted from this Clause.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELThese words are very often used in Acts of Parliament which effect large changes, and are quite essential, because it is impossible for any Bill to foresee all the minute changes of administrative methods or modifications of Acts of Parliament which will be the result of the passing of such an Act. So far as it is necessary to adapt Statutes for the purposes of this Act, that is provided for in Clause 44, Sub-section (1a), and in so far as the adaptations relate to purely administrative matters, of course, the administrative authority which will have control over the institution or authority will be the person empowered to make such adaptations as may be necessary to bring the Act into operation.
§ Sir E. CARSONWho are they?
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELIt depends upon what the authority is. For instanse, if the institution is the Post Office, and the Post Office is to be transferred from the Imperial Government, then it would be the Postmaster-General who would adapt the institution according to the various provisions of the Bill in order to enable it to be transferred from the Imperial Government to the Irish Government.
§ Sir E. CARSONTake the judicial system, which was the illustration you gave of an institution.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELIf no adaptations are necessary it will remain as it is. I do not know that it will be necessary to have any adaptation in such a case, but suppose there were, then the Lord Lieutenant under whose control the judicial system would rest, subject to the provisions of this Act, might find it necessary to make some adaptation. For instance, the number of judges might have to be increased as a consequence of some new function which might have to be imposed on judges by Orders of Court or something of that kind to carry out any functions thrown upon them by this Bill. It is impossible to foresee all the minute changes in the working of a great Government system following on the setting up of a great system like this. It is quite usual to insert provisions of this kind in an Act of Parliament. There are three such provisions in 334 the Local Government Act of 1888, which was passed by hon. Members opposite, and set up a number of new institutions in England and Wales for local administration. Glancing through the Act, not at all carefully, for a few minutes, I came across two or three cases where similar provision is made. Take Clause 75 for example. It provides that certain existing Statutes which are cited shall, save so far as some are unrepealed and are consistent with this Act, apply with such modifications as may be necessary to make them applicable to the said councils, and their chairmen, members, and committees, and to the other provisions of this Act. Clause 78 provides that all enactments in any Act, whether general, local, or personal, relative to any business powers, duties, or liabilities, transferred in pursuance of this Act, shall, subject to the provisions of this Act, and so far as circumstances admit, be construed as if any reference therein to the said authority or to any committee or member thereof—all the said enactments shall be construed with such modifications as may be necessary for carrying this Act into effect. That is precisely a parallel case. Clause 125 in the same Act provides that, save so far as may be necessary to give effect to this Act, nothing in this Act shall prejudicially affect the privileges of any municipal corporation and so on. So you see that again and again such provisions occur. There are three instances in a single Act of Parliament passed by a Conservative Ministry which would naturally be very tender towards existing rights and privileges. If there is any doubt as to whether or not any modification is really necessary, in order to adapt this Act, then, I am advised, that that is a matter to be decided by the Courts of Law.
§ Sir E. CARSONThis provision is, of course, a very wide one, and requires some examination at the hands of the Committee. We are not dealing now with local government. We are dealing with the setting up of an entirely new Constitution. We are dealing now, so far as this Section is concerned, with every single law that will exist when the Bill becomes law, and that will regulate the whole jurisprudence of Ireland. What the right hon. Gentleman says is the meaning of this Section—I should have taken a different meaning myself—is that every single one of those laws can be modified without Parliament, so as to make them adaptable under this Act.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELSuch adaptations as are necessary.
§ Sir E. CARSONThat is an extraordinary provision. What then is the meaning of the subsequent portion of the Section:—
Subject as respects matters within the powers of the Irish Parliament, under this Act, to repeal, abolition, alteration, and adaptation in the manner and to the extent authorised by this Act.If the right hon. Gentleman will look into the matter he will see that what the Clause does is this, that as regards all matters within the power of the Irish Parliament, they can only do it by Act of Parliament; but as regards the matters which apparently are outside the sanction of the Irish Parliament, they can do it, the right hon. Gentleman says, by Order in Council. Surely that is an extraordinary position. If the first part of the Section means what he says, what is the necessity for the second part at all? What is the necessity for giving the Irish Parliament any power to adapt matters within their jurisdiction if you agree that we can adapt any law at all by Order in Council?
§ Mr. BIRRELLYou do not alter the provisions.
§ Sir E. CARSONWhy talk of "adaptation," which is the word used in the second part of the Clause? What you are doing by the Section is that you are giving to the Irish Parliament power by legislative enactments to adapt the law, and you are giving the Irish Executive, which means an Order in Council, power not only to alter the laws in the purview of the Irish Parliament, and adapt them, but also such laws as are taken outside the jurisdiction of the Irish Government. That is an extraordinary method of procedure. The two parts of the Clause are absolutely inconsistent with each other. Who is to make the modification necessary for adapting these laws to this Act? The right hon. Gentleman falls back upon Clause 44, which, as we have argued over and over again, only applies to transitory provisions. Assume that Clause 44 is so amended as to provide power to make Orders in Council, if that has any application to Clause 38 at all then these words are quite unnecessary, because you have the words in Clause 44 that "His Majesty may make Orders in Council for the purpose of such adaptations of any enactments so far as they relate to Ireland, as may appear to him necessary." Why 336 should those words be put in at all? They set up another Order in Council, and apparently leave in the air that you can have any such modification as may seem to be proper for adapting the laws to this Act. It appears to me that there is a great deal of confusion in the way this has been done, and I submit to the right hon. Gentleman, in regard to the provisions of Clause 44, if he relies upon them, that we should have some explanation from him now on the point.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELClause 44 refers to non-statutory bodies, and not to adaptations of Acts of Parliament. It refers to adaptations of institutions, and authorities, and also of laws.
§ Sir E. CARSON"All existing laws."
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELIt is quite true that Clause 44 might by itself be held to be adequate so far as laws are concerned. There is no reason why the Clause should not include all three subjects, if alone Clause 44 does re-embody the powers conferred by Clause 38. I do not think it is a point of the great importance which the right hon. Gentleman says. In any case, what we want to do can be done by the Bill, whether in Clause 44 alone or whether in Clause 38. On the whole we think it better to put it in one Clause, and under Clause 44 subsequently provide a procedure by which it can be done. It would not be in the nature of legislation; it is really setting the thing to work and making modifications to enable the procedure to run smoothly. The right hon. Gentleman asked why we should have the powers in the latter part of the Clause which enable the Irish Parliament as respects matters within the powers of the Irish Parliament under this Act to repeal, abolish, alter, and adapt, and he said that the two portions of the Clause are inconsistent with one another. I suggest that they are not inconsistent. If the Imperial Government with a view to setting the machinery in operation makes a certain adaptation of Acts of Parliament or institutions, it is necessary to make it clear that it has been done to enable the thing to come smoothly into working, and that does not affect the power conferred by this Bill on the Irish Parliament to legislate with respect to those same institutions at any subsequent time, or themselves to exercise their powers of legislation with regard to any Statute, even though that Statute may have been adapted in the first instance by 337 the Imperial Government. I hope I have made that clear. The two things are really not inconsistent with one another. At the outset the Imperial Government may think it necessary to make an adaptation for the purpose of this Act, and of course, if that were contemplated, it would be at the outset that things would have to be adapted, so far as might be necessary in connection with this Act, when it comes into operation. That is the obvious intention of the Clause. But later, five, ten, or twenty years hence, if the Irish Parliament wishes to legislate on this subject, this Clause makes it perfectly clear that any adaptation that may take place otherwise than by the Irish Parliament, is not to prejudice or preclude any subsequent alteration by the Irish Parliament which they may, under the powers conferred upon them by the Bill, desire to effect.
§ Mr. MITCHELL-THOMSONThe right hon. Gentleman a little under-estimates the importance of the subject when he suggests that it may properly be compared with the Local Government Act of 1898. The right hon. Gentleman has had some experience of setting up Colonial Government, and I ask him whether he can find in the Canada Act, the South Africa Act, or the Commonwealth of Australia Act, a single case where a Clause like this appears. I have not been able to discover it. If the right hon. Gentleman is going to quote analogies, I think he might at least quote, not those which suit his purpose, but the Colonial analogy. The right hon. Gentleman's first explanation of it was even more remarkable, because if I understood him aright, ho said in answer to an interruption of my right hon. Friend, that under certain circumstances the authority to make modifications and adaptations would be in the Lord Lieutenant. That is a most remarkable statement, and I do not so read the Clause. I do not so read Clause 44, and I should like to know whether the right hon. Gentleman still adheres to that view.
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELIt refers to institutions under the control of the Lord Lieutenant.
§ Mr. MITCHELL-THOMSONIf the Lord Lieutenant has that power, is he to exercise it by proclamation: is he to alter existing laws and institutions by proclamation? If he looks at Clause 44, I think the right hon. Gentleman will discover that it does provide machinery, not 338 only for dealing with enactments, but for dealing with administrative Acts, and they have to be dealt with by Order in Council. Clause 44 was originally intended to be only transitory, but Amendments are being put down, the operation of which will make it a permanent Clause. In any event, I do protest against the policy of making all these changes of that character simply by Order in Council, which means by the power of the Government of the day. I think it a most extraordinary provision, and I suggest that before we arrive at the Report stage the right hon. Gentleman would be well advised to consider, in the light of the Bill and his own Amendments, if it is necessary, and I think it is necessary, to omit these words altogether.
§ Sir F. BANBURYThe right hon. Gentleman has made a very lame defence against the acceptance of this Amendment. It is quite true that by paragraph (a) of Clause 44, in all probability it will be required for the adaptation of anything that may arise to make anything clear under this Bill, if that can be done; and if the Bill becomes an Act, whoever will have to administer it, will pay attention to the Act and not to the intention of the right hon. Gentleman or anybody else. It will be supposed that these words, which we propose to leave out, are put into the Clause for a particular purpose; and it seems to me that their insertion will raise considerable legal difficulties and trouble. If the right hon. Gentleman thinks they are not of very much importance I fail to see why he does not accept the Amendment. Surely it is always better in a complicated measure of this sort, especially a measure setting up a new Constitution in another country, to make it as clear and as simple as possible, and to confine what you desire to do in one Clause instead of putting a piece in Clause 38 and another piece in Clause 44. In view of the fact that the right hon. Gentleman said that, these words are not of any great importance, perhaps he will consent to their deletion, and so save the Committee the trouble of going to a Division.
§ Mr. JOYNSON-HICKSMay I ask the Postmaster-General one question? Take the Land Purchase Act, and suppose the Irish Parliament passed a variation of that Act on the ground that it was necessary for adapting the law; who is to be the judge that such alterations are really needed for the purpose of adaptation of 339 the law, or will they not have the power, by merely declaring that they are statutory adaptations, to make the alterations?
§ Mr. HERBERT SAMUELObviously the Irish Parliament would not have the power to do a thing which was ultra vires merely by representing that it was an
§ adaptation. When they came to receive the Royal Assent that. Act would have to be interpreted by the Courts, and the Courts would at once say that it was ultra vires.
§ Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 327; Noes, 198.
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| Acland, Francis Dyke | Dawes, J. A. | Higham, John Sharp |
| Adamson, William | Delany, William | Hinds, John |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Denman, Hon R. D. | Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. |
| Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. | Devlin, Joseph | Hodge, John |
| Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. | Dickinson, W. H. | Hogge, James Myles |
| Agnew, Sir George William | Dillon, John | Holmes, Daniel Turner |
| Alnsworth, John Stirling | Donelan, Captain A. | Hope, John Deans (Haddington) |
| Allen, Arthur Acland (Dumbartonshire) | Doris, William | Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Duffy, William J. | Howard, Hon. Geoffrey |
| Armitage, Robert | Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) | Hughes, Spencer Leigh |
| Arnold, Sydney | Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley) | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus |
| Atherley-Jones, Llewellyn A. | Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) | Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) |
| Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | John, Edward Thomas |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) | Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Elverston, Sir Harold | Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) |
| Barnes, George N. | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) | Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) |
| Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick) | Esslemont, George Birnie | Jones William (Carnarvonshire) |
| Barton, William | Falconer, James | Jones, William S. Glyn- (Stepney) |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Farrell, James Patrick | Joyce, Michael |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Fenwick, Rt Hon. Charles | Keating, Matthew |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson | Kellaway, Frederick George |
| Benn, W. W. (Tower Hamlets, S. Geo.) | Ffrench, Peter | Kennedy. Vincent Paul |
| Bentham, George Jackson | Field, William | Kilbride. Denis |
| Bethell, Sir John Henry | Fitzgibbon, John | King, J. |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | Flavin, Michael Joseph | Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon,S.Molton) |
| Black, Arthur W. | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd | Lardner, James Carrige Rushe |
| Boland, John Plus | Gilhooly, James | Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Gill, A. H. | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) |
| Bowerman, C. W. | Ginnell, L. | Leach, Charles |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Gladstone, W. G. C. | Levy, Sir Maurice |
| Brace, William | Glanville, H. J. | Lewis, John Herbert |
| Brady, P. J. | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas |
| Brocklehurst, William B. | Goldstone, Frank | Low, Sir F. (Norwich) |
| Brunner, J. F. L. | Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) | Lundon, T. |
| Bryce, J. Annan | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) | Lynch, A. A. |
| Buckmaster, Stanley O. | Greig, Colonel J. W. | Macdonald, J.M. (Falkirk Burghs) |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward | McGhee, Richard |
| Burns, Rt. Hon. John | Griffith, Fllis Jones | Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C, (Poplar) | Guest, Hon. Major C. H. C. (Pembroke) | MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) | Macpherson, James Ian |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Guiney, Patrick | MacVeagh, Jeremiah |
| Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) | Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) | M'Callum, Sir John M. |
| Cawley, H. T. (Heywood) | Hackett, J. | M'Curdy, C. A. |
| Chancellor, H. G. | Hall, Frederick (Normanton) | M'Kean, John |
| Chapple, Dr. William Allen | Hancock, John George | McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. | Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) | M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Lelcs.) |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) | M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lincs., Spalding) |
| Clough, William | Hardie, J. Keir | M'Micking, Major Gilbert |
| Clynes, John R. | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) | Manfield, Harry |
| Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) | Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil |
| Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) | Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) | Marks, Sir George Croydon |
| Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) | Marshall, Arthur Harold |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) | Martin, J. |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Haslam, James (Derbyshire) | Mason, David M. (Coventry) |
| Cotton, William Francis | Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) | Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. |
| Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Meagher, Michael |
| Crawshay-Williams, Eliot | Hayden, John Patrick | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) |
| Crean, Eugene | Hayward, Evan | Menzies, Sir Walter |
| Crooks, William | Hazleton, Richard | Millar, James Duncan |
| Crumley, Patrick | Healy, Maurice (Cork) | Molloy, Michael |
| Cullinan, John | Healy, Timothy Michael (Cork, N.E.) | Molteno, Percy Alport |
| Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Helme, Sir Norval Watson | Mond, Sir Alfred Moritz |
| Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Hemmerde, Edward George | Mooney, John J. |
| Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Morrell, Philip |
| Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) | Morison, Hector |
| Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardiganshire) | Henry, Sir Charles | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas |
| Muldoon, John | Primrose, Hon. Neil James | Sutherland, J. E. |
| Munro, R. | Pringle, William M. R. | Sutton, John E. |
| Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. | Radford, G. H. | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. | Raffan, Peter Wilson | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Nannettl, Joseph P. | Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Taylor, Thomas (Bolton) |
| Needham, Christopher Thomas | Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough | Thomas, James Henry |
| Nolan, Joseph | Reddy, M. | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| Norman, Sir Henry | Redmond, John (Waterford) | Toulmin, Sir George |
| Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Redmond, William (Clare, E.) | Trevelyan, Charles Philip |
| Nugent, Sir Walter Richard | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Nuttall, Harry | Rendall, Athelstan | Verney, Sir Harry |
| O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) | Wadsworth, J. |
| O'Brien, William (Cork) | Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) | Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) |
| O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Roberts, Charles (Lincoln) | Walters, Sir John Tudor |
| O'Doherty, Philip | Roberts, G. H. Norwich) | Walton, Sir Joseph |
| O'Donnell, Thomas | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) | Ward, John (Stoke-on-Trent) |
| O'Dowd, John | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) | Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton) |
| Ogden, Fred | Robertson, J. M. Tynesside) | Wardle, George J. |
| O'Grady, James | Robinson, Sidney | Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay |
| O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) |
| O'Malley, William | Roche, Augustine (Louth) | Webb, H. |
| O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Roche, John (Galway, E.) | Wedgwood, Josiah C. |
| O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Roe, Sir Thomas | White, J. Dundas (Glas., Tradeston) |
| O'Shee, James John | Rowlands, James | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| O'Sullivan, Timothy | Rowntree, Arnold | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| Outhwaite, R. L. | Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Palmer, Godfrey Mark | Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) | Wiles, Thomas |
| Parker, James (Halifax) | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Wilkie, Alexander |
| Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | Scanlan, Thomas | Williams, John (Glamorgan) |
| Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. | Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) |
| Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. | Scott, A, MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) |
| Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) | Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B. | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) |
| Phillpps, Col. Ivor (Southampton) | Sheehy, David | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Phillips, John (Longford, S.) | Shortt, Edward | Winfrey, Richard |
| Pointer, Joseph | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) |
| Pollard, Sir George H. | Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton) | Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.) |
| Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim) | Young, W. (Perthshire, E.) |
| Power, Patrick Joseph | Snowden, Philip | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Price, C, E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Soames, Arthur Wellesley | |
| Price, Sir R. J. (Norfolk, E.) | Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. |
| Priestley, Sir W. E. (Bradford) | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) | Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
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| Aitken, Sir William Max | Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Gretton, John |
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A, (Worc'r) | Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) |
| Anstruther-Gray, Major William | Chambers, James | Guinness, Hon. W.E. (Bury S.Edmunds) |
| Archer-Shee, Major M. | Clay, Capt. H. H. Spender | Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) |
| Baird, J. L. | Clive, Captain Percy Archer | Haddock, George Bahr |
| Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) | Coates, Major Edward Feetham | Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) |
| Balcarres, Lord | Cooper, Richard Ashmole | Hall, Fred (Dulwich) |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) | Hall, Marshall (L'pool, E. Toxteth) |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) | Hambro, Angus Valdemar |
| Barlng, Maj. Hon. Guy V. (Winchester) | Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) |
| Barlow, Montague. (Salford, South) | Craik, Sir Henry | Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) |
| Barnston, Harry | Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence |
| Barrie, H. T. | Croft, H. P. | Harris, Henry Percy |
| Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc., E.) | Dalziel, D. (Brixton) | Harrison-Broadley, H. B. |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Denniss, E. R. B. | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) |
| Beckett, Hon. Gervase | Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Dixon, C. H. | Hewins, William Albert Samuel |
| Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- | Doughty, Sir George | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. |
| Beresford, Lord C. | Duke, Henry Edward | Hill, Sir Clement L. |
| Bigland, Alfred A. | Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Hills, John Waller |
| Blair, Reginald | Faber, George Denison (Clapham) | Hill-Wood, Samuel |
| Boles, Lieut.-Col Dennis Fortescue | Falle, B. G. | Hoare, S. J. G. |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Fell, Arthur | Hope, Harry (Bute) |
| Boy ton, James | Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey | Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) |
| Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell | Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Horne, Wm. E. (Surrey, Guildford) |
| Bull, Sir William James | Fitzroy, Hon, Edward A. | Houston, Robert Paterson |
| Burdett-Coutts, W. | Fleming, Valentine | Hunter, Sir C. R. |
| Burgoyne, A. H. | Fletcher, John Samuel | Ingleby, Holcombe |
| Burn, Colonel C. R. | Forster, Henry William | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) |
| Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. (Dublin Univ.) | Gardner, Ernest | Jessel, Captain H. M. |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Gastrell, Major W. Houghton | Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. | Gibbs, G. A. | Kerry, Earl of |
| Cassel, Felix | Gilmour, Captain John | Kimber, Sir Henry |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Goldman, C. S. | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement |
| Cautley, H. S. | Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) | Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford |
| Cave, George | Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) | Larmor, Sir J. |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) | Grant, J. A. | Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) |
| Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) | Greene, W. R. | Lee, Arthur Hamilton |
| Lewisham, Viscount | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) | Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Lloyd, George Ambrose | Peel, Capt. R. F. (Woodbridge) | Swift, Rigby |
| Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) | Perkins, Walter F. | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. | Pole-Carew, Sir R. | Talbot, Lord E. |
| Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee | Pretyman, Ernest George | Terrell. George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) | Pryce-Jones, Col. E. | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) |
| Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Quilter, Sir William Eley C. | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) |
| MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh | Randles, Sir John S. | Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, North) |
| Mackinder, Halford J. | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel | Tobin, Alfred Aspinall |
| Mac-master, Donald | Rawson, Col. Richard H. | Touche, George Alexander |
| M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Remnant, James Farquharson | Tryon, Captain George Clement |
| Malcolm, Ian | Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) | Tullibardine, Marquess of |
| Mason, James F. (Windsor) | Rolleston, Sir John | Valentia, Viscount |
| Meysey-Thompson, E. C. | Royds, Edmund | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Middlemore, John Throgmorton | Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby) | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.) |
| Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Salter, Arthur Clavell | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) | Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) | Sanders, Robert Arthur | Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon) |
| Mount, William Arthur | Sanderson, Lancelot | Wood, John (Stalybridge) |
| Neville, Reginald J. N. | Sassoon, Sir Philip | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- |
| Newdegate, F. A. | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'p'l., Walton) | Wright, Henry Fitzherbert |
| Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) | Smith, Harold (Warrington) | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Nield, Herbert | Spear, Sir John Ward | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Norton-Griffiths, J. | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) | Younger, Sir George |
| Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. | Staveley-Hill, Henry | |
| Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) | Steel-Maitland, A. D. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. |
| Parkes, Ebenezer | Stewart, Gershom | Joynson-Hicks and Mr. Goldsmith. |
§ It being after half-past Seven of the clock, the CHAIRMAN proceeded, pursuant to the Order of the House of the 14th October, to put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at half-past
344§ Seven of the clock at this day's, sitting.
§ Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 329; Noes, 200.
347| Division No. 407.] | AYES. | [7.40 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) | Esslemont, George Birnie |
| Adamson, William | Cawley, H. T. (Heywood) | Falconer, James |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Chancellor, H. G. | Farrell, James Patrick |
| Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. | Chappie, Dr. William Allen | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles |
| Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. | Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. | Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson |
| Agnew, Sir George William | Clancy, John Joseph | Ffrench, Peter |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Clough, William | Field, William |
| Allen, Arthur Acland (Dumbartonshire) | Clynes, John R. | Fitzgibbon, John |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) | Flavin, Michael Joseph |
| Armitage, Robert | Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd |
| Arnold, Sydney | Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Gilhooly, James |
| Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry | Condon, Thomas Joseph | Gill, A. H. |
| Atherley-Jones, Llewelyn A. | Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Ginnell, L. |
| Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) | Cotton, William Francis | Gladstone, W. G. C. |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Glanville, H. J. |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Crawshay-Williams, Eliot | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Crean, Eugene | Goldstone, Frank |
| Barnes, George N. | Crooks, William | Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) |
| Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick) | Crumley, Patrick | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) |
| Barton, William | Cullinan, John | Greig, Colonel J. W. |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Griffith, Ellis Jones |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Guest, Major C. H. C. (Pembroke) |
| Benn, W. W. (Tower Hamlets, S. Geo.) | Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) |
| Bentham, George Jackson | Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardiganshire) | Guiney, Patrick |
| Bethell, Sir John Henry | Dawes, J. A. | Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | De Forest, Baron | Hackett, J. |
| Black, Arthur W. | Delany, William | Hall, Frederick (Normanton) |
| Boland, John Plus | Denman, Hon. R. D. | Hancock, John George |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Devlin, Joseph | Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) |
| Bowerman, C. W. | Dickinson, W. H. | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Dillon, John | Hardie, J. Keir |
| Brace, William | Donelan, Captain A. | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) |
| Brady, P. J. | Doris, William | Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) |
| Brocklehurst, William B. | Duffy, William J. | Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) |
| Brunner, J. F. L. | Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) |
| Bryce, J. Annan | Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley) | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire. N.E.) |
| Buckmaster, Stanley O. | Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) | Haslam, James (Derbyshire) |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry |
| Burns, Rt. Hon. John | Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) | Hayden, John Patrick |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C (Poplar) | Elverston, Sir Harold | Hayward, Evan |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Hazleton, Richard |
| Healy, Maurice (Cork) | Molloy, Michael | Robinson, Sidney |
| Healy, Timothy Michael (Cork, N.E.) | Molteno, Percy Alport | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) |
| Helme, Sir Nerval Watson | Mond, Sir Alfred Moritz | Roche, Augustine (Louth) |
| Hemmerde, Edward George | Mooney, John J. | Roche, John (Galway, E.) |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham} | Morrell, Philip | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) | Morison, Hector | Rowlands, James |
| Henry, Sir Charles | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Rowntree, Arnold |
| Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon., S.) | Muldoon, John | Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. |
| Higham, John Sharp | Munro, R. | Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) |
| Hinds, John | Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H | Murray, Captain Hon Arthur C. | Scanlan, Thomas |
| Hodge, John | Nannetti, Joseph P. | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. |
| Hogge, James Myles | Needham, Christopher Thomas | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) |
| Holmes, Daniel Turner | Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) | Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B. |
| Hope, John Deans (Haddington) | Nolan, Joseph | Sheehy, David |
| Home, C. Silvester (Ipswich) | Norman, Sir Henry | Shortt, Edward |
| Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Simon, Sir John Allsebrook |
| Hughes, Spencer Leigh | Nugent, Sir Walter Richard | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) |
| Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Nuttall, Harry | Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton) |
| Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim) |
| John, Edward Thomas | O'Brien, William (Cork) | Snowden, Philip |
| Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) | O'Doherty, Philip | Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert |
| Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) | O'Donnell, Thomas | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) |
| Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) | O'Dowd, John | Sutherland, J. E. |
| Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | Ogden, Fred | Sutton, John E. |
| Jones, William S. Glyn- (Stepney) | O'Grady, James | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Joyce, Michael | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Keating, Matthew | O'Malley, William | Taylor, Thomas (Bolton) |
| Kellaway, Frederick George | O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Kennedy, Vincent Paul | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Thomas, James Henry |
| Kilbride, Denis | O'Shee, James John | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| King, J. | O'Sullivan, Timothy | Toulmin, Sir George |
| Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) | Outhwaite, R. L. | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Lardner, James Carrige Rushe | Palmer, Godfrey Mark | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) | Parker, James (Halifax) | Verney, Sir Harry |
| Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) | Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | Wadsworth, J. |
| Leach, Charles | Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) |
| Levy, Sir Maurice | Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. | Walters, Sir John Tudor |
| Lewis, John Herbert | Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) | Walton, Sir Joseph |
| Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton) | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| Low, Sir F. (Norwich) | Phillips, John (Longford, S.) | Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton) |
| London, T. | Pointer, Joseph | Wardle, George J. |
| Lynch, A. A. | Pollard, Sir George H. | Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay |
| Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) | Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan) |
| Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) | Power, Patrick Joseph | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) |
| McGhee, Richard | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Webb, H. |
| Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Price, Sir R. J. (Norfolk, E.) | Wedgwood, Josiah C. |
| MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) | Priestley, Sir W. E. (Bradford) | White, J. Dundas (Glas., Tradeston) |
| Macpherson, James Ian | Primrose, Hon. Nell James | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Pringle, William M. R. | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| M'Callum, Sir John M. | Radford, G. R. | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| M'Curdy, C. A. | Rattan. Peter Wilson | Wiles, Thomas |
| M'Kean, John | Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Wilkie, Alexander |
| McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald | Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) | William, John (Glamorgan) |
| M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Leics.) | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) | Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) |
| M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lincs., Spalding) | Reddy, M. | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) |
| M'Micking, Major Gilbert | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N) |
| Manfield, Harry | Redmond, William (Clare, E.) | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Markham, Sir Arthur Basil | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) | Winfrey, Richard |
| Marks, Sir George Croydon | Rendall, Athelstan | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) |
| Marshall, Arthur Harold | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) | Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.) |
| Mason, David M. (Coventry) | Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) | Young, William (Perthshire, E.) |
| Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Meagher, Michael | Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) | |
| Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. |
| Menzies, Sir Walter | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) | Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
| Millar, James Duncan | Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Aitken, Sir William Max | Barrie, H. T. | Boyton, James |
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. | Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.) | Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell |
| Anstruther-Gray, Major William | Bathurst, C. (Wilts, Wilton) | Bridgeman, W. Clive |
| Archer-Shee, Major M. | Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Bull, Sir William James |
| Baird, J. L. | Beckett, Hon. Gervase | Burdett-Coutts, W. |
| Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) | Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Burgoyne, A. H. |
| Balcarres, Lord | Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- | Burn, Colonel C. R. |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Beresford, Lord Charles | Butcher, John George |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Bigland, Alfred A. | Campbell. Rt. Hon. J. (Dublin Univ.) |
| Baring, Maj. H. Guy V. (Winchester) | Blair, Reginald | Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred |
| Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) | Boles, Lieut-Col. Dennis Fortescue | Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. |
| Barnston, Harry | Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Cassel, Felix |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Cautley, H. S. | Harris, Henry Percy | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) |
| Cave, George | Harrison-Broadley, H. B. | Peel, Capt. R. F. (Woodbridge) |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Perkins, Walter F. |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) | Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) | Pole-Carew, Sir R. |
| Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) | Hewins, William Albert Samuel | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) | Hill, Sir Clement L. | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Chambers, James | Hills, John Waller | Quilter, Sir William Eley C. |
| Clay, Capt. H. H. Spender | Hill-Wood, Samuel | Randles, Sir John S. |
| Clive, Captain Percy Archer | Hoare, S. J. G. | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Coates, Major Sir Edward Fectham | Hohler, G. F. | Rawson, Col. Richard H. |
| Cooper, Richard Ashmole | Hope, Harry (Bute) | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) | Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) |
| Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) | Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) | Rolleston, Sir John |
| Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) | Home, E. (Surrey, Guildford) | Rothschild, Lionel de |
| Craik, Sir Henry | Houston, Robert Paterson | Royds, Edmund |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Hunter, Sir C. R. | Rutherford, Watson (L'pool., W. Derby) |
| Croft, H. P. | Ingleby, Holcombe | Salter, Arthur Clavell |
| Dalziel, D. (Brixton) | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) |
| Denniss, E. R. B. | Jessel, Captain H. M. | Sanders, Robert Arthur |
| Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Joynson-Hicks, William | Sanderson, Lancelot |
| Dixon, C. H. | Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr | Sassoon, Sir Philip |
| Doughty, Sir George | Kerry, Earl of | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'p'l., Walton) |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Kimber, Sir Henry | Smith, Harold (Warrington) |
| Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Faber, George Denison (Clapham) | Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) |
| Falle, B. G. | Larmor, Sir J. | Staveley-Hill, Henry |
| Fell, Arthur | Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) | Steel-Maitland, A. D. |
| Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey | Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) | Stewart, Gershom |
| Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | Lee, Arthur Hamilton | Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Lewisham, Viscount | Swift, Rigby |
| Fitzroy, Hon. Edward A. | Lloyd, George Ambrose | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Fleming, Valentine | Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) | Talbot, Lord E. |
| Fletcher, John Samuel | Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. | Terrell, George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Forster, Henry William | Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) |
| Gardner, Ernest | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (S. Geo., Han.S.) | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) |
| Gastrell, Major W. Houghton | Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, North) |
| Gibbs, G. A. | MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh | Tobin, Alfred Aspinall |
| Gilmour, Captain John | Mackinder, Halford J. | Touche, George Alexander |
| Goldman, C. S. | Macmaster, Donald | Tryon, Captain George Clement |
| Goldsmith, Frank | M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Tullibardine, Marquess of |
| Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) | Malcolm, Ian | Valentia, Viscount |
| Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) | Mason, James F. (Windsor) | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Goulding, Edward Alfred | Meysey-Thompson, E. C. | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.) |
| Grant, J. A. | Middlemore, John Throgmorton | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Greene, W. R. | Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) | Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas | Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon) |
| Guinness, Hon. W.E. (Bury S.Edmunds) | Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- |
| Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Mount, William Arthur | Wright, Henry Fitzherbert |
| Haddock, George Bahr | Neville, Reginald J. N. | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) | Newdegate, F. A. | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Hall, Fred (Dulwich) | Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) | |
| Hall, Marshall, (L'pool, E. Toxteth) | Nield, Herbert | |
| Hambro, Angus Valdemar | Norton-Griffiths, J. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. |
| Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) | Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. | Gretton and Mr. J. Wood. |
| Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) |