§ (1) For the purpose of the provisions of this Act with respect to existing officers there shall be established a Committee to be called the Civil Service Committee.
§ (2) The Committee shall consist of three members, of whom one shall be appointed by the Treasury, one by the Executive Committee, and one (who shall be chairman) by the Lord Chief Justice of England.
§ (3) Any vacancy arising in the Committee owing to the death, resignation, or incapacity of a member of the Committee shall
198§ be filled by the authority by whom the member whose place is vacant was appointed.
§ (4) The determination of the Civil Service Committee on any claim or question which is to be determined by them under the provisions of this Act relating to existing officers shall be final and conclusive.
§ Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 289; Noes, 176.
201| Division No. 403.] | AYES. | [10.45 P.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Dewar, Sir J. A. | Hogge, James Myles |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Dickinson, W. H, | Holmes, Daniel Turner |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Dillon, John | Holt, Richard Durning |
| Allen, Arthur Acland (Dumbartonshire) | Donelan, Captain A. | Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Doris, William | Howard, Hon. Geoffrey |
| Armitage, Robert | Duffy, William J. | Hughes, Spencer Leigh |
| Arnold, Sydney | Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) | Illingworth, Percy H. |
| Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry | Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley) | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus |
| Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) | Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) | Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) |
| Baring, Sir Godlrey (Barnstaple) | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) | Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Esslemont, George Blrnie | Jones, William S. Glyn (Stepney) |
| Barnes, George N. | Falconer, James | Jowett, Frederick William |
| Barton, William | Farrell, James Patrick | Joyce, Michael |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | Keating, Matthew |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson | Kellaway, Frederick George |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Ffrench, Peter | Kennedy, Vincent Paul |
| Bethell, Sir John Henry | Field, William | Kilbride, Denis |
| Black, Arthur W. | Flennes, Hon. Eustace Edward | King, J. |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Fitzgibbon, John | Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Flavin, Michael Joseph | Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) |
| Bowerman, C. W. | George, Rt. Hon. David Lloyd | Lardner, James Carrlge Rushe |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Gilhooly, James | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) |
| Brace, William | Gill, A. H. | Leach, Charles |
| Brady, P. J. | Ginnell. L. | Levy, Sir Maurice |
| Brocklehurst, William B. | Gladstone, W. G. C. | Lewis, John Herbert |
| Brunner, J. F. L. | Glanville, H. J. | Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas |
| Bryce, J. Annan | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | Low, Sir F. (Norwich) |
| Buckmaster, Stanley O. | Goldstone, Frank | Lundon, T. |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Griffith, Ellis Jones | Lynch, A. A. |
| Burns, Rt. Hon. John | Guest, Hon. Major C. H. C. (Pembroke) | Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C, (Poplar) | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) | Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Guiney, Patrick | McGhee, Richard |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Gulland, John William | Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. |
| Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) | Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) | Macpherson, James Ian |
| Cawley, H. T. (Heywood) | Hackett, J. | MacVeagh, Jeremiah |
| Chancellor, H. G. | Hall, Frederick (Normanton) | M'Callum, Sir John M. |
| Chapple, Dr. William Allen | Hancock, John George | M'Curdy, C. A. |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) | M'Kean, John |
| Clough, William | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) | McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald |
| Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) | Hardle, J. Keir | M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Lelcs.) |
| Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) | M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lines.,Spalding) |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Harmsworth, R. L. Caithness-shire) | Manfield, Harry |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil |
| Cotton, William Francis | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) | Marks, Sir George Croydon |
| Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) | Marshall, Arthur Harold |
| Crawshay-Willlams, Eliot | Haslam, James (Derbyshire) | Martin, J. |
| Crean, Eugene | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. |
| Crooks, William | Hayden, John Patrick | Meagher, Michael |
| Crumley, Patrick | Hay ward, Evan | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) |
| Cullinan, John | Hazleton, Richard | Menzles, Sir Walter |
| Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Healy, Maurice (Cork) | Millar, James Duncan |
| Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Hemmerde, Edward George | Milloy, Michael |
| Davies, Timothy (Lines., Louth) | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Molteno, Percy Alport |
| Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Henry, Sir Charles | Morison, Hector |
| Dawes, J. A. | Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon., S.) | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas |
| De Forest, Baron | Higham, John Sharp | Muldoon, John |
| Delany, William | Hinds, John | Munro, R. |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. | Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. |
| Devlin, Joseph | Hodge, John | Nannetti, Joseph P. |
| Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) | Thomas, James Henry |
| Nolan, Joseph | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) | Thorne, William (West Ham) |
| Nugent, Sir Walter Richard | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) | Toulmin, Sir George |
| O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| O'Doherty, Philip | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) | Verney, Sir Harry |
| O'Donnell, Thomas | Robinson, Sidney | Wadsworth, J. |
| Ogden, Fred | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) | Walsh, Stephen (Lanes., Ince) |
| O'Grady, James | Roche, Augustine (Louth) | Walton, Sir Joseph |
| O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Roe, Sir Thomas | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| O'Malley, William | Rowlands, James | Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton) |
| O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Rowntree, Arnold | Wardle, George J. |
| O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter | Waring, Walter |
| O'Shee, James John | Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) |
| O'Sullivan, Timothy | Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) | Webb, H. |
| Outhwaite, R. L. | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | White, J. Dundas (Glas., Tradeston) |
| Palmer, Godfrey Mark | Scanlan, Thomas | White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) | Sheeny, David | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Phillips, John (Longford, S.) | Sherwell, Arthur James | Wiles, Thomas |
| Pointer, Joseph | Shortt, Edward | Wilkie, Alexander |
| Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Simon, Sir John Allsebrook | Williams, J. (Glamorgan) |
| Power, Patrick Joseph | Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe) | Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) |
| Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Smyth. Thomas G. (Leitrim) | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull. W.) |
| Price, Sir R. J. (Norfolk, E.) | Snowden, Philip | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) |
| Primrose, Hon. Neil James | Soames, Arthur Wellesley | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Pringle, William M. R. | Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) |
| Radford, G. H. | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) | Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.) |
| Raffan, Peter Wilson | Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West) | Young, W. (Perthshire, E.) |
| Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Sutherland, J. E. | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) | Sutton, John E. | |
| Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) | Taylor, John W. (Durham) | |
| Reddy, M. | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr |
| Redmond, John E. (Waterford) | Taylor, Thomas (Bolton) | Wedgwood Benn and Mr. W. Jones. |
| Redmond, William (Clare, E.) | Tennant, Harold John | |
| NOES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) | Hope, Harry (Bute) |
| Aitken, Sir William Max | Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) |
| Amery, L. C. M. S. | Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) | Houston, Robert Paterson |
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. | Craik, Sir Henry | Hume-Williams, Wm. Ellis |
| Ashley, W. W. | Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Hunter, Sir C. R. |
| Baird, J. L. | Cripps, Sir C. A. | Ingleby, Holcombe |
| Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) | Croft, H. P. | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) |
| Balcarres, Lord | Dalziel, D. (Brixton) | Jessel, Captain H. M. |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Joynson-Hicks, William |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City, Lond.) | Dixon, C. H. | Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick | Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Kerry, Earl of |
| Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) | Faber, George Denison (Clapham) | Kimber, Sir Henry |
| Barnston, Harry | Fell, Arthur | Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) |
| Barrie, H. T. | Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey | Lee, Arthur Hamilton |
| Bathurst, Hon. A B. (Glouc, E.) | Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | Lewisham, Viscount |
| Bathurst, C. (Wilts, Wilton) | Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue | Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) |
| Beach. Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Fletcher, John Samuel | Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) |
| Beckett, Hon Gervase | Forster, Henry William | Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Gardner, Ernest | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (S. Geo., Han. S.) |
| Bennett-Goldney, Francis | Gastrell, Major W. H. | Lyttelton, Hon' J. C. (Droitwich) |
| Berestord, Lord C. | Gibbs, G. A. | MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh |
| Bird, A. | Gilmour, Captain John | Macmaster, Donald |
| Blair, Reginald | Goldman, C. S. | Magnus, Sir Philip |
| Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith | Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) | Mason, James F. (Windsor) |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Greene, W. R | Meysey-Thompson, E. C. |
| Boyton, James | Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Middlemore, John Throgmorton |
| Bridgeman, W. Cilve | Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) | Mildmay, Francis Bingham |
| Bull, Sir William James | Hall, Fred (Dulwich) | Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas |
| Burdett-Coutts, W. | Hall, Marshall (L'pool, E. Toxteth) | Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) |
| Burn, Colonel C. R. | Hamersley, Alfred St. George | Mount, William Arthur |
| Butcher, John George | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) | Neville, Reginald J. N. |
| Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. (Dublin Univ.) | Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) | Newdegate, F. A. |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence | Newman, John R. P. |
| Cassel, Felix | Harris, Henry Percy | Newton, Harry Kottingham |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Harrison Broadley, H. B. | Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) |
| Cator, John | Helmsley, Viscount | Nield, Herbert |
| Cautley, H. S. | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Norton-Griffiths, J. |
| Cave, George | Hewins, William Albert Samuel | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) |
| Cecil, Lord R (Herts, Hitchin) | Hill, Sir Clement L. | Peel, Captain R. F. (Woodbridge) |
| Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Hills, John Waller | Perkins, Walter F. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) | Hill-Wood, Samuel | Pole-Carew, Sir R. |
| Chambers, James | Hoare, S. J. G. | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Clay, Capt. H. H. Spender | Hohler, G. F. | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Pryce-Jones, Col. E. | Stanier, Seville | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Quilter, Sir William Eley C. | Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk) | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Randles, Sir John S. | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) | White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport) |
| Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel | Staveley-Hill, Henry | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.) |
| Rawson, Col. Richard H. | Stewart, Gershom | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) | Swift, Rigby | Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E. R.) |
| Rolleston, Sir John | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) | Wood, John (Stalybridge) |
| Ronaldshay, Earl of | Talbot, Lord E. | Worthington-Evans, L. |
| Rothschild, Lionel de | Terrell, George (Wilts, N. W.) | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. R. Stuart |
| Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby) | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Salter, Arthur Clavell | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) | Thomson, W. Mitchell-(Down, North) | Younger, Sir George |
| Sanders, Robert Arthur | Thynne, Lord A. | |
| Sanderson, Lancelot | Touche, George Alexander | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— Captain |
| Smith, Harold (Warrington) | Tullibardine, Marquess of | Knight and Sir Joseph Larmor. |
| Spear, Sir John Ward | Valentia, Viscount |