§ (1) There shall be constituted as soon as may be after the passing of this Act, in accordance with regulations to be made by the Treasury, a joint committee of the several bodies of Commissioners appointed for the purposes of this Part of this Act, consisting of such members of each such body selected in such manner as may be provided by the regulations and of a chairman to be appointed by the Treasury.
§ (2) The joint committee may make such financial adjustments as may be necessary between the various funds, and shall exercise and perform such powers and duties of the several Commissioners under this Part of this Act as may be provided by such regulations.
§ (3) Regulations made by the Treasury under this Section shall be laid before Parliament as soon as may be after they are made, but if an Address is presented to His Majesty by either House of Parliament within the next subsequent twenty-one days on which that House has sat next after any such regulation is laid before it, praying that the regulation may be annulled, His Majesty in Council may annul the regulation and it shall thenceforth be void, but without prejudice to the validity of anything previously done thereunder.
§ Amendments made: In Sub-section (1), after the word "chairman," insert the words "and other members (not exceeding two in number)."
§ At end, add the words "and the chairman shall not by reason of his office be incapable of being elected to or voting in the Commons House of Parliament."
§ Amendment, proposed in Sub-section (2), to leave out the words "various funds" ["between the 'various funds'"], and insert instead thereof the words "several funds under the control and management of the several bodies of Commissioners."
§ Question put, "That those words be there inserted."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 148; Noes, 55.
757| Division No. 415.] | AYES. | [8.40 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) | Gladstone, W. G. C. | O'Doherty, Philip |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Glanville, H. J. | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) |
| Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbarton) | Hackett, John | Phillips, John (Longford, S.) |
| Anderson, Andrew Macbeth | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) | Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) |
| Bakér, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) | Pringle, William M. R. |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) | Pryce-Jones, Col. E. |
| Bentham, George Jackson | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Radford, G. H. |
| Boland, John Plus | Hayden, John Patrick | Raffan, Peter Wilson |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Helme Norval Watson | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith- | Higham, John Sharp | Reddy, Michael |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Hinds, John | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Hoare, S. J. G. | Rendall, Athelstan |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) | Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) |
| Clough, William | Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) | Robinson, Sidney |
| Compton-Rickett, Sir J. | Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | Roche, John (Galway, E.) |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Jones, William S. Glyn- (Stepney) | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Cotton, William Francis | Joyce, Michael | Rowlands, James |
| Crawshay-Williams, Eliot | Kennedy, Vincent Paul | Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. |
| Crumley, Patrick | Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Lewis, John Herbert | Simon, Sir John Allsebrook |
| Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Lundon, T. | Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton) |
| Delany, William | Lyell, Charles Henry | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Lynch, A. A. | Summers, James Woolley |
| Devlin, Joseph | Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Sutherland, J. E. |
| Dillon, John | McNeill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine) | Swift, Rigby |
| Donelan, Captain A. | Marks, Sir George Croydon | Thynne, Lord Alexander |
| Doris, William | Masterman, C. F. G. | Toulmin, Sir George |
| Du Cros, Arthur Philip | Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) | Millar, James Duncan | Webb, H. |
| Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of | Molloy, M. | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Elverston, Sir Harold | Mooney, John J. | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Essex, Richard Walter | Morgan, George Hay | Wiles, Thomas |
| Esslemont, George Birnie | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Williams, P. (Middlesbrough) |
| Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | Muldoon, John | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worc., N.) |
| Ferens, Thomas Robinson | Nannetti, Joseph P. | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow) |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) | |
| Gardner, Ernest | Nugent, Sir Walter Richard | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Gulland and Mr. Wedgwood Benn. |
| George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Ashley, Wilfrid W. | Cassel, Felix | Dawes, J. A. |
| Bigland, Alfred | Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) |
| Bridgeman, Clive | Clynes, John R. | Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) | Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. |
| Gill, A. H. | Hudson, Walter | Sutton, John E. |
| Goldstone, Frank | Jessel, Captain H. M. | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Jowett, Frederick William | Thomson, W. Mitchell-(Down, North) |
| Hancock, John George | Lansbury, George | Thorne, William (West Ham) |
| Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) | Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) | Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) |
| Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.) | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil | Wilkie, Alexander |
| Haslam, James (Derbyshire, N. E.) | Parker, James (Halifax) | Williams, John (Glamorgan) |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Henderson, Major H. (Berks., Abingdon) | Rowntree, Arnold | Yate, Col. C. E.. |
| Hills, John Waller | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) | |
| Hodge, John | Smith, Harold (Warrington) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Barnes and Mr. John Ward. |
| Hope, Harry (Bute) | Snowden, Philip | |
| Houston, Robert Paterson | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N. W.) |
| Division No. 416.] | AYES. | [9.0 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) | Glanville, H. J. | O'Doherty, Philip |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) |
| Agnew, Sir George William | Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) | O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) |
| Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbarton) | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) | Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) |
| Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) | Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) | Phillips, John (Longford, S.) |
| Anderson, A. M. | Hackett, J. | Pollard, Sir George H. |
| Ashley, Wilfrid W. | Hall, Fred (Dulwich) | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Baker, H. T. (Accrington) | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrase) | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) |
| Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds.) | Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) |
| Balcarres, Lord | Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) | Pringle, William M. R. |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Bentham, George Jackson | Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) | Radford, G. H. |
| Bethell, Sir John Henry | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Raffan, Peter Wilson |
| Boland, John Pius | Hayden, John Patrick | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Helme, Norval Watson | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) |
| Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith- | Higham, John Sharp | Reddy, Michael |
| Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) | Hinds, John | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Bryce, J. Annan | Hoare, S. J. G. | Rendall, Athelstan |
| Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. S. C. (Poplar) | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Jessel, Captain H. M. | Robertson, Sir C. Scott (Bradford) |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) | Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) | Robinson, Sidney |
| Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) | Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | Roche, John (Galway, E.) |
| Collins, G. P. (Greenock) | Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. Hmts., Stepney) | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) | Joyce, Michael | Rowlands, James |
| Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Kellaway, Frederick George | Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Kennedy, Vincent Paul | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Cotton, William Francis | King, J. | Scanlan, Thomas |
| Cowan, W. H. | Lewis, John Herbert | Simon, Sir John Allsebrook |
| Crawshay-Williams, Eliot | Lundon, T. | Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton) |
| Crumley, Patrick | Lynch, Arthur Alfred | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Davies, E. William (Eifion) | M'Callum, John M. | Summers, James Woolley |
| Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil | Sutherland, J. E. |
| Delany, William | Marks, Sir George Croydon | Swift, Rigby |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Marshall, Arthur Harold | Toulmin, Sir George |
| Devlin, Joseph | Masterman, C. F. G. | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Dillon, John | Meehan, Patrick A. (Queens Co.) | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Donelan, Captain A. | Millar, James Duncan | Webb, H. |
| Doris, W. | Molloy, M. | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) | Mooney, J. J. | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of | Morgan, George Hay | Whyte, A. F. |
| Elverston, Sir Harold | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Wiles, Thomas |
| Essex, Richard Walter | Muldoon, John | Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough) |
| Esslemont, George Birnie | Munro, R. | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) |
| Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | Murray, Captain Hon. A. C. | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) |
| Ferens, T. R. | Nannetti, Joseph P. | |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) | |
| Gardner, Ernest | Nolan, Joseph | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Gulland and Mr. Wedgwood Benn. |
| George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd | Nuttall, Harry | |
| Gladstone, W. G. C. | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) |
| NOES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Snowden, P. |
| Barnes, George N. | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Stanier, Beville |
| Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) | Hodge, John | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N. W.) |
| Bigland, Alfred | Hope, Harry (Bute) | Sutton, John E. |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Houston, Robert Paterson | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Hudson, Walter | Terrell, George (Wilts, N. W.) |
| Clough, William | Jowett, Frederick William | Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, N.) |
| Clynes, John R. | Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr | Thynne, Lord Alexander |
| Dawes, J. A. | Lansbury, George | Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) |
| Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) | Lyell, Charles Henry | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) | Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) | Wilkie, Alexander |
| Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) | Nield, Herbert | Williams, J. (Glamorgan) |
| Gastrell, Major W. H. | Parker, James (Halifax) | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.) |
| Gill, A. H. | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Gilmour, Captain J. | Perkins, Walter Frank | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Goldstone, Frank | Rowntree, Arnold | |
| Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Sanderson, Lancelot | |
| Hancock, J. G. | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir C. E. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. John Ward and Mr. W. Thorne. |
| Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.) | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) | |
| Haslam, James (Derbyshire) | Smith, Harold (Warrington) |
§ Further Amendments made: In Sub-section (2), after the word "several" ["powers and duties of the several Commissioners"], insert the words "bodies of."
788§ At end of Sub-section (2) insert,
§ "(3) Amongst the powers so exercisable by the joint committee shall be included a power of making regulations as 789 to the valuation of societies and branches which have amongst their members persons resident in England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales, or any two or any three of such parts of the United Kingdom, and the regulations so made shall require that, for the purposes of the provisions of this Part of this Act relating to valuations and transfers, the members resident in each such part shall be treated as if they formed a separate society or branch."—[Mr. Lloyd George]