HC Deb 02 May 1911 vol 25 cc361-71

This Act may be cited as the Parliament Act, 1911.

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

The Amendments put down to this Clause are not in order.

Motion made and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

Dr. HILLIER

I wish to ask a question with regard to the Amendment I have handed in. At the outset of this Debate the Prime Minister clearly indicated that he was prepared to accept Amendments in phrasing. At any rate, my Amendment would improve the phrasing, and it has an advantage, because it would be more accurate than that which is contained in the Bill. My Amendment is to leave out the words "Parliament Act" and insert the words "Logroller's Charter."

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

If the hon. Member will consult Sir Erskine May, he will see that Amendments proposed in a spirit of mockery are not received by the Chair.

Mr. MALCOLM

I hope I am not to understand that Sir Erskine May's dictum has enabled you to rule that my Amendment to call the Parliament Bill a "Single Chamber Bill" is one proposed in a spirit of mockery, because it is only putting a coping-stone of truth to the Bill.

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

It is not in order for the hon. Member to contest the ruling of the Chair on that point.

Mr. MALCOLM

I should be very sorry to contest the ruling of the Chair. I was merely asking on what ground you ruled my Amendment out of order, and whether it was that it was proposed in a spirit of mockery?

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

If the hon. Member asks me, that was my reason.

Colonel GRIFFITH-BOSCAWEN

May I suggest that the words proposed by my hon. Friend (Dr. Hillier) are not a mockery, but a plain statement of fact?

12.0 M.

Sir F. BANBURY

I wish to object to the Clause standing part of the Bill, because I do not think it correctly describes the Bill. The Clause says it may be cited as "The Parliament Act, 1011." I do not think that is a correct description of the Bill. I am not going to suggest the words proposed by my hon. Friend, nor do I suggest any other word in this particular Clause, because the time for doing so has gone by, but I do suggest we might leave out this Clause to afford the Government an opportunity on the Report stage of introducing words which would really be accurate and would describe what the Bill is and what they intend it to be. It is absolutely inadequate to describe it as the Parliament Bill. It will not enact that Parliament, but one Chamber of Parliament, or one-half of the two Estates of the Realm, shall do something. That may be right or it may be wrong, but, at any rate, let us be straightforward. When we vote and support a measure let us describe its proper characteristics in such words as may be understood of the people. At the present moment, if we allow this Clause to stand part of the Bill, it will go forth to the country that this is a Parliament Bill. I have shown that it is not a Parliament Bill in the true sense of the word; not a Parliament Bill in the sense that Parliament has always been understood in this country. It has always been defined as consisting of two Estates—Lords and Commons. For the future, under this Bill, it is only to consist of one Chamber: the other Chamber is to be a place to which may be relegated hon. Gentlemen who wish to be called "My Lord," and when they are found not to be of much use here. If we wish to be consistent, truthful, and logical, we must agree to this Amendment.

Mr. PEEL

I have to take exception to one statement by the hon. Baronet. I think he fell into a grave historical error, and I am sure be will wish before this Clause is disposed of to have the mistake set right. He spoke of two Estates of the Realm, and of two Chambers. But I would point out there are three Estates of the Realm—the Lords Temporal, the Lords Spiritual—

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

It is not relevant on this Clause to give a history lesson.

Mr. PEEL

I did not wish to put my observation in the form of a lecture on history. I merely rise to put the hon. Baronet right.

Mr. JAMES HOPE

A point of some substance has been raised, and we ought to have a definite pronouncement from a Law Officer of the Crown upon it. This Clause says the Bill is to be known as the Parliament Bill. There is apparently a great difference of opinion in the House as to the proper definition of "Parliament." Can the Attorney-General give it?

Dr. HILLIER

I should like with the Committee's permission to adduce a few reasons why we should hesitate to bestow such a high-sounding title on this very indifferent Act. This Act, the Clause states, is to be called the Parliament Act. May I remind the Committee that on several occasions right hon. Gentlemen on the Government side have assured the House that the Act was merely to be regarded as a stepping-stone—as an instru- ment for passing certain other Acts? It is not, therefore, in, any sense fairly described by such Constitutional phrasing as "The Parliament Act." It is a temporary expedient—

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

This is an argument on the Bill: not on the title.

Dr. HILLIER

May I not adduce it as an argument to show that this is not a proper title for this Act? There are very good reasons which can be advanced for it, and one of the strongest is the assurance so frequently given that this is a temporary measure—a means to an end.

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

The hon. Member is going into the merits of the Bill itself.

Dr. HILLIER

Am I not entitled to adduce reasons to show that this is not a proper title for this particular Act?

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

The hon. Member must discuss the matter without going into the merits of the Bill.

Dr. HILLIER

May I point out the nature of this Bill which would make this title inappropriate. Of course I abide by your ruling, Sir, but I do respectfully submit that you may consider that it is in order to discuss the nature of this Act as one of the reasons why this is an inappropriate title. The short title I submit is not a happy one, nor is it an accurate one, and I think that contention might fairly well be based upon the nature of this measure, and it was upon that that I ventured to address a few observations to this Committee. We have been continually told that this is not a Parliament Bill as it stands, but is practically a temporary measure to deal with a temporary difficulty of the present Government. That is, if you will consider it, the nature of this measure and the assurances which we have had from the right hon. Gentleman make it perfectly clear that this measure is avowedly intended to give our present Government power to deal with certain difficulties which they have not been able to avoid.

Mr. WATSON RUTHERFORD

I submit that if we leave out this Clause which we are discussing this Act would have to be cited by its full title at the beginning of the Bill. My reason for leaving out this Clause which gives the short title is that this so-called title is not descriptive of the real contents of the Bill itself. I take it that we are quite in order in insisting that this particular Clause should be left out. It is not necessary to the passing of the Act at all. It does not do anything except to enable this particular Bill if it becomes an Act to be cited by a name which ought not to be given to it. Why should we when we have gone through this Bill word for word and Clause for Clause finish off by enabling the authors of it to call it by a name which is entirely illusory? If it created a Parliament or did anything in the way of consolidating Parliament there would be some ground for the name that is proposed to be given to it. But no part of the Bill creates or constitutes Parliament, and to call it a Parliament Act is directly contrary to the fact. The first Clause practically destroys one portion of Parliament.

The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN

The hon. Member is beginning to do what, he said he would not do.

Mr. W. RUTHERFORD

It is not my intention to discuss the merits of the Clause. I do not deny that a man who has a child born has a right to call it by any name he thinks fit, and the Government have a somewhat similar prescriptive right to give this Bill any illusory or deceptive name they may think proper.

But it is surely adding insult to injury to pretend that, they have created something in the nature of a Parliament. I could cite many cases where this point has been raised in the last 175 years. It has been a common dodge from time to time to call a Bill by some name which Would deceive the electorate and which under certain circumstances might even deceive the very elect. This is the only occasion we have as Members of the Opposition of protesting against a course of that kind being adopted, and we are determined to contest that point. There are other Members here who are prepared to get up and make a last stand against the degradation of Parliament, which has been brought about by the conduct of the Government in christening this child by a bastard name. I must give way to some of my hon. Friends who wish to state further reasons against the name given to the Bill.

Mr. CHURCHILL

rose in his place, and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."

Question put, "That the Question be now put."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 241; Noes, 92.

Division No. 213.] AYES. [12.20 a.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin) Corbett, A. Cameron Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford
Abraham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Rhondda) Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Goldstone, Frank
Acland, Francis Dyke (Camborne) Cotton, William Francis Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough)
Adamson, William Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Greig, Colonel James William
Addison, Dr. Christopher Crawshay-Williams, E. Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. Crumley, Patrick Griffith, Ellis Jones
Ainsworth, John Stirling Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) Guest, Hon. F. E. (Dorset, E.)
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Gulland, John William
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Davies, Timothy (Louth) Gwynne, Stephen Lucius (Galway)
Armitage, Robert Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Hackett, John
Ashton, Thomas Gair Dawes, James Arthur Hall, F. (Yorks, Normanton)
Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) Denman Hon. Richard Douglas Hancock, John George
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Dewar, Sir J. A. Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose)
Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick B.) Dillon, John Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil)
Barran, Rowland Hirst (Leeds, N.) Doris, William Harvey, A. C. C. (Rochdale)
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West)
Barton, William Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.)
Beauchamp, Edward Edwards, A. C. (Glam., E.) Harwood, George
Bentham, George Jackson Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Haslam, James (Derbyshire)
Black, Arthur W. Edwards, J. H. (Glam., Mid.) Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth)
Booth, Frederick Handel Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry
Bowerman, Charles W. Elverston, Harold Haworth, Arthur A.
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North Esmonde, Dr. J. (Tipperary, N.) Hayden, John Patrick
Brace, William Esmonde, Sir T. (Wexford, N.) Hayward, Evan
Brady, Patrick Joseph Essex, Richard Walter Helme, Norval Watson
Brocklehurst, William B. Falconer, James Henderson, Arthur (Durham)
Burns, Rt. Hon. John (Battersea) Fenwick, Charles Henry, Sir Charles
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North Ferens, Thomas Robinson Herbert, Cal. Sir Ivor
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Ffrench, Peter Higham, John Sharp
Chancellor, Henry George Field, William Hinds, John
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward Holt, Richard Durning
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Fitzgibbon, John Hope, John Deans (Haddington)
Clough, William Flavin, Michael Joseph Horne, Charles Silvester (Ipswich)
Clynes, John R. France, Gerald Ashburner Howard, Hon. Geoffrey
Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Gelder, Sir William Alfred Hughes, Spencer Leigh
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Gibson, Sir James Puckering Hunter, William (Lanark, Govan)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Gill, Alfred Henry Illingworth, Percy H.
Isaacs, Sir Rufus Daniel Needham, Christopher Thos. Rose, Sir Charles Day
John, Edward Thomas Neilson, Francis Rowntree, Arnold
Johnson, William Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Jones, Edgar R. (Merthyr Tyvil) Nolan, Joseph Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Norman, Sir Henry Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Jones, Leif (Rushcliffe) Norton, Capt. C. W. (Newington, W.) Scanlan, Thomas
Jones, Wm. (Carnarvonshire) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Scott, A. M'Callum (Bridgeton)
Jones, Wm. S. Glyn- (Stepney) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Seely, Rt. Hon. Col.
Joyce, Michael O'Doherty, Philip Sheehy, David
Keating, Matthew O'Dowd, John Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Kellaway, Frederick George Ogden, Fred Smith, Albert (Clitheroe)
Kelly, Edward O'Grady, James Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Kennedy, Vincent Paul O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.)
King, Joseph (Somerset, North O'Malley, William Summers, James Woolley
Lambert, Richard (Cricklade) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) Sutton, John E.
Lansbury, George O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Law, Hugh Alexander (Donegal, W.) O'Sullivan, Timothy Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cockermouth) Palmer, Godfrey Mark Toulmin, George
Levy, Sir Maurice Parker, James (Halifax) Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Lewis, John Herbert Pearce, Robert (Leek) Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Logan, John William Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. Verney, Sir H.
Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Pease, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Rotherham) Walsh, Stephen (Lancashire, Ince)
Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay T.
Lundon, Thomas Pickersgill, Edward Hare Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Lyell, C. H. Pointer, Joseph Webb, H.
Lynch, Arthur Alfred Pollard, Sir George H. White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Maclean, Donald Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) White, Patrick (Meath, North
Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Whitehouse, John Howard
MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Primrose, Hon. Neil James Whyte, Alexander F. (Perth)
MacVeagh, Jeremiah Pringle, William M. R. Wiles, Thomas
M'Curdy, Charles Albert Radford, George Heynes Wilkie, Alexander
M'Laren, F. W. S. (Line., Spalding) Raphael, Sir Herbert Henry Williams, John (Glamorgan)
M'Laren, W. S. B. (Crewe) Reddy, Michael Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough)
Manfield, Harry Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Marks, George Croydon Redmond, William (Clare, E.) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Mason, David M. (Coventry) Rendall, Athelstan Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, N.)
Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Richards, Thomas Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) Wood, T. M'Kinnon (Glasgow)
Millar, Duncan Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Young, William (Perth, East)
Molloy, Michael Roberts, George H. (Norwich)
Money, L. G. Chiozza Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Mooney, John J. Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) Dudley Ward and Mr. Wedgwood
Morfell, Philip Robinson, Sidney Benn.
Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Roe, Sir Thomas
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hon. Sir Alex. F. Craik, Sir Henry M'Calmont, Colonel James
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Dalrymple, Viscount Malcolm, Ian
Altken, William M. Dixon, Charles Harvey Mason, James F. (Windsor)
Arkwright, John Stanhope Fell, Arthur Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Fisher, William Hayes Neville, Reginald J.
Astor, Waldorf Fitzroy, Hon. Edward A. Norton-Griffiths, J. (Wednesbury)
Bagot, Lt.-Col. Josceline Forster, Henry William O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid)
Baird, John Lawrence Foster, Philip Staveley Parkes, Ebenezer
Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) Goulding, Edward Alfred Peel, Hon. William R. W. (Taunton)
Balcarres, Lord Grant, James Augustus Pollock, Ernest Murray
Baldwin, Stanley Greene, Walter Raymond Pretyman, Ernest George
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gretton, John Pryce-Jones, Col. E.
Banner, John S. Harmood Guinness, Hon. Walter Edward Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Barnston, Harry Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Rawson, Col. Richard H.
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Rutherford, W. (W. Derby)
Beckett, Hon. William Gervase Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Hillier, Dr. Alfred Peter Sanders, Robert Arthur
Bentick, Lord H. Cavendish- Hill-Wood, S. (High Peak) Sanderson, Lancelot
Beresford, Lord Charles Hope, Harry (Bute) Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Bird, Alfred Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Boscawen, Col, A. S. T. Griffith- Horner, Andrew Long Stanley, Major Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Bridgeman, William Clive Houston, Robert Paterson Swift, Rigby
Burdett-Coutts, William Hunt, Rowland Thynne, Lord Alexander
Burn, Col. C. R. (Torquay) Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) Walker, Col. W. H.
Carlile, Edward Hildred Joynson-Hicks, William Wheler, Granville C. H.
Cassel, Felix Kebty-Fletcher, J. R. Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Cave, George Kerry, Earl of Winterton, Earl
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford Univ.) Larmor, Sir Joseph Yate, Col. Charles Edward
Chaloner, Col, R. G. W. Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R.
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) TELLEP.S FOR THE NOES.—viscount
Clyde, James Avon MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh Valentia and Mr. Pike Pease.
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Macmaster, Donald

Question put accordingly, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 242; Noes, 96.

Division No. 214.] AYES. [12.26 a.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Abraham, Rt. Hon. William (Rhondda) Gulland, John William O'Connor, John (Kildare, N)
Acland, Francis Dyke Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) O'Doherty, Philip
Adamson, William Hackett, John O'Dowd, John
Addison, Dr. Christopher Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Ogden, Fred
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. Hancock, J. G. O'Grady, James
Ainsworth, John Stirling Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.)
Allen A. A. (Dumbartonshire) Hardie, J. Keir (Methyr Tydvil) O'Malley, William
Allen, Charles Peter (Stroud) Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
Armitage, Robert Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Ashton, Thomas Gair Harvey, W E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) O'Sullivan, Timothy
Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Harwood, George Palmer, Godfrey Mark
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Parker, James Halifax
Barran, Sir J. N. (Hawick) Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Peace, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Barran, Rowland Hirst (Leeds, N.) Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M.
Barry, Redmond John (Tyrone, N.) Haworth, Arthur A. Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Barton, W. Hayden, John Patrick Pickersgill, Edward Hare
Beauchamp, Edward Hayward, Evan Pointer, Joseph
Bentham, G. J. Helme, Norval Watson Pollard, Sir George H.
Black, Arthur W. Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Booth, Frederick Handel Henry, Sir Charles S. Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Bowerman, C. W. Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford. E.)
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North Higham, John Sharp Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Brace, William Hinds, John Pringle, William M. R
Brady, Patrick Joseph Holt, Richard Durning Radford, George Heynes
Brocklehurst, William B. Hope, John Deans (Haddington) Raphael, Sir Herbert Henry
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Horne, Charles Silvester (Ipswich) Reddy, Michael
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, N) Howard, Hon, Geoffrey Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Hughes, Spencer Leigh Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Chancellor, Henry George Hunter, William (Lanark, Govan) Rendall, Athelstan
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Illingworth, Percy H. Richards, Thomas
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Isaacs, Sir Rufus Daniel Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Clough, William John, Edward Thomas Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Clynes, John R. Johnson, W. Roberts, George H. (Norwich)
Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Jones, Leif Statten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Robinson, Sidney
Corbett, A. Cameron Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Roe, Sir Thomas
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts, Stepney) Rose, Sir Charles Day
Cory, Sir Clifford John Joyce, Michael Rowntree, Arnold
Cotton, William Francis Keating, Matthew Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Kellaway, Frederick George Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Kelly, Edward Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Crumley, Patrick Kennedy, Vincent Paul Scanlan, Thomas
Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) King, Joseph (Somerset, North Scott,A. MacCallum (Glasgow, Bridgeton)
Davies, Ellis William (Eiffon) Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Seeley, Colonel Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) Lansbury, George Sheehy, David
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Dawes, J. A. Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld.,Cockermth) Smith, Albert (Lanes, Clitheroe)
Denman, Hon. R. D. Levy, Sir Maurice Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Devlin, Joseph Lewis, John Herbert Stanley, Albert (Staffs., N.W.)
Dewar, Sir J. A. Logan, John William Summers, James Woolley
Dillon, John Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Sutton, John E.
Doris, William Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Lundon, Thomas Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Lyell, Charles Henry Toulmin, George
Edwards, Allen C. (Glamorgan, E.) Lynch, Arthur Alfred Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Maclean, Donald Verney, Sir Harry
Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince)
Elverston Harold MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) MacVeagh, Jeremiah Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) M'Curdy, Charles Albert Webb, H.
Essex, Richard Walter M'Laren, F. W. S. (Lincs., Spalding) White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Falconer, James M'Laren, Walter S. B. (Ches., Crewe) White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Fenwick, Charles Manfield, Harry White, Patrick (Meath, North
Ferens, Thomas Robinson Marks George Croydon Whitehouse, John Howard
Ffrench, Peter Mason, David M. (Coventry) Whyte, A. F.
Field, William Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Wiles, Thomas
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) Wilkie, Alexander
Fitzgibbon, John Millar, James Duncan Williams, John (Glamorgan)
Flavin, Michael Joseph Molloy, Michael Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough)
France, Gerald Ashburner Money, L. G. Chiozza Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Gelder, Sir W. A. Mooney, John J. Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Gibson, Sir James Puckering Morrell, Philip Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, N.)
Gill, A. H. Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. P. C. Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Needham, Christopher T. Wood, T. McKinnon (Glasgow)
Goldstone, Frank Neilson, Francis Young, William (Perth, East)
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster)
Greig, Colonel James William Nolan, Joseph TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Norman, Sir Henry Illingworth and Mr. Wedgwood
Griffith, Ellis J. Norton, Captain Cecil W. Benn.
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hon. Sir Alex. F. Crack, Sir Henry M'Calmont, Colonel James
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Dalrymple, Viscount Mason, James F. (Windsor)
Altken, William Max Dixon, Charles Harvey Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Arkwright, John Stanhope Fell, Arthur Neville, Reginald J. N.
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Fisher, William Hayes Norton-Griffiths, J.
Astor, Waldorf Fitzroy, Hon. Edward A. O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid.)
Bagot, Lieut.-Colonel J. Forster, Henry William Parkes, Ebenezer
Baird, John Lawrence Foster, Philip Staveley Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Baker, Sir Randall L. (Dorset, N.) Goulding, Edward Alfred Peel, Hon. W. R. W. (Taunton)
Balcarres, Lord Grant, J. A. Pollock, Ernest Murray
Baldwin, Stanley Greene, Walter Raymond Pretyman, Ernest George
Banbury, Sir Fredeick George Gretton, John Pryce-Jones, Col. E.
Banner, John S. Harmood- Guinness, Hon. Walter Edward Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Barnston, H. Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Rawson, Colonel Richard H.
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Beckett, Hon. William Gervase Hardy, Laurence Sanders, Robert Arthur
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Hillier, Dr. Alfred Peter Sanderson, Lancelot
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish Hill-Wood, Samuel Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Beresford, Lord Charles Hope, Harry (Bute) Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Bird, Alfred Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Boscawen, Col. A. S. T. Griffith- Horner, Andrew Long Swift, Rigby
Bridgeman, W. Clive Houston, Robert Paterson Sykes, Allan John
Burdett-Coutts, William Hunt, Rowland Thynne, Lord Alexander
Burn, Colonel C. R. Jardine, Ernest (Somerset E.) Touche, George Alexander
Carlile, Edward Hildred Joynson-Hicks, William Valentia, Viscount
Cassel, Felix Kebty-Fletcher, J. R. Walker, Colonel William Hall
Cave, George Kerry, Earl of Wheler, Granville C. H.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Larmor, Sir J. Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford Univ.) Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts., Mile End) Winterton, Earl
Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Yate, Colonel C. E.
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich)
Clyde, James Avon MacCaw, William J. MacGeagh TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Macmaster, Donald Watson Rutherford and Mr. Malcolm.