HC Deb 16 September 1909 vol 10 cc2445-8

(1) The Estates Commissioners in any case where they propose to acquire compulsorily an estate or untenanted land—

  1. (a) in respect of which a final offer has been sent by them and has not been accepted in manner provided by this Act; or
  2. (b) in respect of which they have received a requisition under this Act from the Congested Districts Board
shall publish in the "Dublin Gazette" a notice containing particulars of the final offer of the Land Commission or the Congested Districts Board as the case may be and stating that the Estates Commissioners intend to purchase the estate or untenanted land described in the final offer at the price named in such offer, unless within the prescribed time an application is made under this Part of this Act to the Judicial Commissioner by any person interested in the estate or untenanted land.

(2) A copy of the final offer and of the aforesaid notice, shall as soon as possible be served in the prescribed manner by the Estates Commissioners upon all persons known or believed by them to be interested in the estate or untenanted land.

(3) Any person interested in the estate or untenanted land who is dissatisfied with the price named in the final offer may within the prescribed time and in the prescribed manner apply by way of objection to the Judicial Commissioner to fix the price to be paid for the estate or untenanted land.

(4) The Judicial Commissioner shall, with the assistance of two specially qualified lay assessors, hear in the prescribed manner and determine all applications coming before him under this Part of this Act, and for that purpose shall have and may exercise the powers conferred on the Land Commission by Sub-section (1) and

Sub-section (3) of Section forty-eight of the Act of 1881, and his decision on any question other than one of law shall be final.

(5) An appeal shall lie to the Court of Appeal from any decision of the Judicial Commissioner under this part of this Act on any question of law and the decision of the Court of Appeal on such question shall be final.

(6) Subject to any application to the Judicial Commissioner under this Part of this Act and the final determination of all questions arising thereon, the price named in the final offer or fixed under this Part of this Act as the case may be shall be deemed to be the purchase money of the estate or untenanted land, and shall within the prescribed time be paid into the Bank of Ireland, and the purchase shall be completed and the purchase money distributed in like manner and all the like consequences shall ensue as if the estate or untenanted land had been purchased by the Land Commission or the Congested Districts Board, as the case may be, by agreement entered into under the Act of 1903 as amended by this Act upon the date of the payment of the purchase-money into the Bank.

(7) The costs and expenses of and incidental to any application to the Judicial Commissioner under this Section shall be at the discretion of that Commissioner, who may if he thinks fit order the same to be paid by the Land Commission or the Congested Districts Board.

Amendment proposed: After Sub-section

(7) to insert the following new Sub-section:

"(8) In fixing the price to be paid for an estate or untenanted land under this Section no additional allowance shall be made on account of the purchase being compulsory."

Question put, "That the Amendment be made."

The House divided: Ayes, 231; Noes, 48.

Division No. 678.] AYES. [11.15 p.m.
Abraham, W. (Cork, N.E.) Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Charming, Sir Francis Allston
Agar-Rooartes, Hon. T. C. R. Beauchamp, E. Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R.
Agnew, George William Benn, Sir J. Williams (Devonport) Clancy, John Joseph
Alden, Percy Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Clough, William
Allen, A. Acland (Christchurch) Black, Arthur W. Clynes, J. R.
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Boland, John Cobbold, Felix Thornley
Ambrose, Robert Bowerman, C. W. Collins, Stephen (Lambeth)
Armitage, R. Branch, James Condon, Thomas Joseph
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Brunner, J. F. L. (Lanes., Leigh) Cooper, G. J.
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Bryce, J. Annan Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Buckmaster, Stanley O. Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Grinstead)
Barlow, Sir John E. (Somerset) Burke, E. Haviland- Cornwall, Sir Edwin A.
Barnard, E. B. Burns, Rt. Hon. John Cotton, Sir H. J. S.
Barran, Rowland Hirst Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Cowan, W. H.
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Byles, William Pollard Crosfield, A. H.
Cullinan, J. Keating, M. Parker, James (Halifax)
Dalziel, Sir James Henry Kekewich, sir George Partington, Oswald
Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Kelley, George D. Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Kennedy, Vincent Paul Philips, John (Longford, S.)
Delany, William Kilbride, Denis Pickersgill, Edward Hare
Dewar, Arthur (Edinburgh, S.) King, Alfred John (Knutsford) Pointer, J.
Dickinson, W. H. (St. Pancras, N.) Laidlaw, Robert Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Dillon, John Lambert, George Power, Patrick Joseph
Dobson, Thomas W. Lamont, Norman Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Duffy, William J. Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Radford, G. H.
Dunne, Major E. Martin (Walsall) Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, W.) Rainy, A. Rolland
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Layland-Barratt, Sir Francis Raphael, Herbert H.
Elibank, Master of Lehmann, R. C. Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (Gloucester)
Erskine, David C. Lewis, John Herbert Reddy, M.
Evans, Sir S. T. Lundon T. Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Everett, Ft. Lacey Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Redmond, William (Clare)
Falconer, J. Lynch, A. (Clare, W.) Richards, T. F. (Wolerhampton, W.)
Farrell, James Patrick Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Ffrench, Peter Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Field, William Maclean, Donald Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Flavin, Michael Joseph MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Robson, sir William Snowdon
Flynn, James Christopher Macpherson, J. T. Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Fuller, John Michael F. MacVeagh, Jeremiah (Down, S.) Roche, Augustine (Cork)
Fullerton, Hugh MacVeigh, Charles (Donegal, E.) Roe, Sir Thomas
Furness, Sir Christopher M'Laren, Sir C. B. (Leicester) Rutherford, V. H. (Brentford)
Gibb, James (Harrow) M'Laren, H. D. (Stafford, W.) Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland).
Gilhooly, James M'Micking, Major G. Scanlan, Thomas
Gill, A. H. Maddison, Frederick Scarisbrick, Sir T. T. L.
Ginned, L. Mallet, Charles E. Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde)
Gladstone, Rt. Hon. Herbert John Marnham, F. J. Schwann, Sir C. E. (Manchester)
Glendinning, R. G. Meagher, Michael Seely, Colonel
Glover, Thomas Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Shackleton, David James
Gooch, George Peabody (Bath) Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.) Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Gulland, John W. Menzies, Sir Walter Sheehy, David
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius Molteno, Percy Alport Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Mooney, J. J. Snowden, P.
Hancock, J. G. Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) Soares, Ernest J.
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Morrell, Philip Stewart-Smith, D. (Kendal)
Hardy, George A. (Suffolk) Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Strachey, Sir Edward
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Muldoon, John Summerbell, T.
Harrington, Timothy Murnaghan, George Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Harwood, George Murphy, John (Kerry, East) Tennant, Sir Edward (Salisbury)
Haworth, Arthur A. Nannetti, Joseph P. Tennant, H. J. (Berwickshire)
Hazleton, Richard Newnes, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw) Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Healy, Maurice (Cork) Nicholls, George Verney, F. W.
Healy, Timothy Michael Nolan, Joseph Vivian, Henry
Helme, Norval Watson Norman, Sir Henry Walters, John Tudor
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Wardle, George J.
Henry, Charles S. Nussey, Sir Willans Waring, Walter
Higham, John Sharp Nuttall, Harry Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
Hogan, Michael O'Brien, K. (Tipperary, Mid) Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Hooper, A. G. O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Watt, Henry A.
Horniman, Emslie John O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) White, J. Dundas (Dumbartonshire)
Hudson, Walter O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Hutton, Alfred Eddison O'Doherty, Philip White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Idris, T. H. W. O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Isaacs, Rufus Daniel O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) Wiles, Thomas
Johnson, John (Gateshead) O'Dowd, John Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Jones, Leif (Appleby) O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) Young, Samuel
Jordan, Jeremiah O'Malley, William
Joyce, Michael O'Shaughnessy, P. J. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Joseph Pease and Captain Norton.
Kavanagh, Walter M. O'Shee, James John
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hon. Sir Alex. F. Craik, Sir Henry Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Balcarres, Lord Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- MacCaw, William J. MacGeagh
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Duncan, Robert (Lanark, Govan) M'Calmont, Col. James
Banner, John S. Harmood- Fletcher, J. S. Moore, William
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Gordon, J. Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Bull, Sir William James Goulding, Edward Alfred Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Butcher, Samuel Henry Gretton, John Renton, Leslie
Carlile, E. Hildred Guinness, Hon. W. E. (B. S. Edm'ds.) Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Haddock, George B. Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Castlereagh, Viscount Hamilton, Marquess of Sheffield, Sir Berkeley George D.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire)
Clark, George Smith Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert Thomson, W. Mitchell (Lanark)
Clive, Percy Archer Hill, Sir Clement Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Coates, Major E. F. (Lewisham) Kerry, Earl of Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Keswick, William
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Lambton, Hon. Frederick William TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Viscount Valentia and Mr. H. W. Forster.
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Long, Rt. Hon. Walter (Dublin, S.)