HC Deb 29 July 1908 vol 193 cc1615-9

Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the out-

standing Resolutions reported in respect of Class III. of the Civil Services Estimates."

The House divided:—Ayes, 254; Noes, 71. (Division List No. 234.)

AYES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E.) Curran, Peter Francis Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe)
Abraham, William (Rhondda) Dalziel, James Henry Higham, John Sharp
Acland, Francis Dyke Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Hobhouse, Charles E. H.
Agnew, George William Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Hodge, John
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Davies, Sir W. Howell(Bristol, S) Holt, Richard Durning
Ashton, Thomas Gair Dewar, Sir J. A. (Inverness-sh.) Hope, W. Bateman (Somerset, N
Astbury, John Meir Dobson, Thomas W. Horniman, Emslie John
Atherley-Jones, L. Duckworth, James Horridge, Thomas Gardner
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Dunne, Major E. Martin(Walsall Howard, Hon. Geoffrey
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Edwards, Clement (Denbigh) Hudson, Walter
Barker, John Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Hyde, Clarendon
Barnard, E. B. Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Idris, T. H. W.
Barnes, G. N. Erskine, David C. Illingworth, Percy H.
Beauchamp, E. Essex, R. W. Jackson, R. S.
Beaumont, Hon. Hubert Evans, Sir Samuel T. Jenkins, J.
Beck, A. Cecil Everett, R. Lacey Johnson, John (Gateshead)
Bell, Richard Ferens, T. R. Johnson, W. (Nuneaton)
Bellairs, Carlyon Foster, Rt. Hon. Sir Walter Jones, Sir D. Brynmor(Swansea
Bennett, E. N. Fuller, John Michael F. Jones, Leif (Appleby)
Berridge, T. H. D. Fullerton, Hugh Jones, William (Carnarvonshire
Bethell, Sir J H.(Essex, Romf'rd Gibb, James (Harrow) Jowett, F. W.
Bethell, T. R. (Essex, Maldon) Gill, A. H. Kearley, Sir Hudson E.
Black, Arthur W. Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert John Kekewich, Sir George
Branch, James Glendinning, R. G. Laidlaw, Robert
Brigg, John Glover, Thomas Lambert, George
Bright, J. A. Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Lamont, Norman
Brooke, Stopford Gooch, George Peabody (Bath) Lea, Hugh Cecil (St. Pancras, E)
Bryce, J. Annan Greenwood, G. (Peterborough) Lehmann, R. C.
Byles, William Pollard Griffith, Ellis J. Levy, Sir Maurice
Causton, Rt. Hn. Richard Knight Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Lewis, John Herbert
Cawley, Sir Frederick Hall, Frederick Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David
Chance, Frederick William Harcourt, Rt. Hn. L. (Rossendale Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Channing, Sir Francis Allston Harcourt, Robert V.(Montrose) Luttrell, Hugh Fownes
Cheetham, John Frederick Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil Lyell, Charles Henry
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Hardy, George A. (Suffolk) Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester)
Cleland, J. W. Harmsworth, R. L (Caithn'ss-sh Mackarness, Frederic C.
Clough, William Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Maclean, Donald
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Harvey, W.E.(Derbyshire, N. E) Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Collins, Sir Wm. J. (S. Pancras, W Haslam, James (Derbyshire) M'Laren, Sir C. B. (Leicester)
Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) M'Laren, H. D. (Stafford, W.)
Cooper, G. J. Haworth, Arthur A. M'Micking, Major G.
Corbett, C H (Sussex, E. Grinst'd Hazel, Dr. A. E Maddison, Frederick
Cory, Sir Clifford John Helme, Norval Watson Mallet, Charles E.
Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Hemmerde, Edward George Mansfield, H. Rendall(Lincoln)
Cowan, W. H. Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Markham, Arthur Basil
Cox, Harold Henderson, J. M.(Aberdeen, W.) Marks, G. Croydon (Launceston)
Crooks, William Henry, Charles S. Marnham, F. J.
Massie, J. Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradf'd Thomasson, Franklin
Micklem, Nathaniel Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Thompson, J.W.H (Somerset, E
Molteno, Percy Alport Robinson, S. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Mond, A. Robson, Sir William Snowdon Tomkinson, James
Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall) Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Verney, F. W.
Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) Roe, Sir Thomas Vivian, Henry
Morrell, Philip Rogers, F. E. Newman Wadsworth, J.
Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Rowlands, J. Walker, H. De R. (Leicester)
Murphy, John (Kerry, East) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter Walsh, Stephen
Myer, Horatio Rutherford, V. H. (Brentford) Walters, John Tudor
Napier, T. B. Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland) Walton, Joseph
Norman, Sir Henry Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Ward, John (Stoke upon Trent)
Norton, Capt. Cecil William Scott, A. H.(Ashton under Lyne Waring, Walter
Nuttall, Harry Seaverns, J. H. Wason, Rt Hn. E. (Clackmannan
Parker, James (Halifax) Seddon, J. Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Partington, Oswald Shackleton, David James Weir, James Galloway
Paulton, James Mellor Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) White, J. D. (Dumbartonshire)
Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Shaw, Rt. Hon. T. (Hawick B.) Whitehead, Rowland
Pearce, William (Limehouse) Sherwell, Arthur James Whitley, John Henry (Halifax)
Pearson, Sir W. D. (Colchester) Silcock, Thomas Ball Whittaker, Rt Hn. Sir Thomas P.
Pearson, W. H. M. (Suffolk, Eye) Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John Wiles, Thomas
Philipps, Owen C. (Pembroke) Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie Wilkie, Alexander
Pickersgill, Edward Hare Snowden, P. Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Pirie, Duncan V. Spicer, Sir Albert Williams, Osmond (Merioneth)
Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Stanger, H. Y. Williamson, A.
Price, C. E. (Edinb'gh, Central) Steadman, W. C. Wills, Arthur Walters
Priestley, Arthur (Grantham) Stewart. Halley (Greenock) Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Radford, G. H. Strachey, Sir Edward Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Raphael, Herbert H. Straus. B. S. (Mile End) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Rea, Russell (Gloucester) Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon) Wilson, P.W. (St. Pancras, S.)
Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro' Stuart, James (Sunderland) Wilson. W. T. (Westhoughton)
Rendall, Athelstan Summerbell, T. Winfrey, R,
Richards, T.F. (Wolverh'mpt'n Sutherland, J. E. Wood. T. M'Kinnon
Richardson, A. Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) Yoxall, James Henry
Ridsdale, E. A. Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr. Joseph Pease and Master of Elibank.
Roberts. G. H. (Norwich) Tennant, H. J. (Berwickshire)
Roberts, Sir John H.(Denbighs. Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt Hn. Sir Alex. F. Fell, Arthur Parkes, Ebenezer
Arkwright, John Stanhope Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Ashley, W. W. Forster, Henry William Remnant, James Farquharson
Balcarres, Lord Gardner, Ernest Renton, Leslie
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gibbs, G. A. (Bristol, West) Roberts. S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Banner, John S. Harmood- Gooch, Henry Cubitt (Peckham Ronaldshay, Earl of
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Gordon, J. Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Beach, Hn Michael Hugh Hicks Guinness, Walter Edward Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Hamilton, Marquess of Sloan, Thomas Henry
Bowles, G. Stewart Harrison-Brondley, H. B. Smith. Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Heaton, John Henniker Starkey, John R.
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M. Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staff'sh.)
Carlile, E. Hildred Houston, Robert Paterson Stone, Sir Benjamin
Castlereagh, Viscount Joynson-Hicks, William Talbot. Lord E. (Chichester)
Cave, George Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H. Thomson, W. Mitchell-(Lanark
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Keswick, William Thornton, Percy M.
Clive, Percy Archer Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich) Valentia, Viscount
Collings, Rt. Hn. J. (Birmingh'm Lockwood, Rt. Hn. Lt.-Col. A. R. Wolff. Gustav Wilhelm
Craik, Sir Henry Lonsdale, John Brownlee Younger, George
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon Lowe, Sir Francis William
Doughty, Sir George M'Arthur, Charles TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Gretton and Mr. Stanley Wilson.
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Du Cros, Arthur Philip Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield)
Duncan, Robert (Lanark, Govan Nield, Herbert
Faber, George Denison (York) O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
AYES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N.E.) Fullerton, Hugh McLaren, Sir C. B. (Leicester)
Abraham, William (Rhondda) Gibb, James (Harrow) McLaren, H. D. (Stafford, W.)
Acland, Francis Dyke Gill, A. H. McMicking, Major G.
Agnew, George William Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John Maddison, Frederick
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Glendinning, R. G. Mallet, Charles E.
Ashton, Thomas Gair Glover, Thomas Mansfield, H. Rendall(Lincoln)
Astbury, John Meir Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Markham, Arthur Basil
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Gooch, George Peabody (Bath) Marks, G. Croydon (Launceston)
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Greenwood, G. (Peterborough) Marnham, F. J.
Barker, John Griffith, Ellis J. Massie, J.
Barnard, E. B. Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Micklem, Nathaniel
Barnes, G. N. Hall, Frederick Molteno, Percy Alport
Beauchamp, E. Harcourt, Rt. Hn. L. (Ross'nd'le Mond, A.
Beaumont, Hon. Hubert Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall)
Beck, A. Cecil Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)
Bell, Richard Hardy, George A. (Suffolk) Morrell, Philip
Bellairs, Carlyon Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithn'ss-sh Morton, Alpheus Cleophas
Benn, W. (T'w'r Hamlets, S. Geo. Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Myer, Horatio
Bennett, E. N. Harvey, W. E.(Derbyshire, N. E. Napier, T. B.
Berridge, T. H. D. Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Nicholson, Charles N.(Doneast'r
Bethell, Sir J. H. (Essex, Romf'd) Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Norman, Sir Henry
Bethell, T. R. (Essex, Maldon) Haworth, Arthur A. Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Black, Arthur W. Hazel, Dr. A. E. Nuttall, Harry
Branch, James Helme, Norval Watson Parker, James (Halifax)
Brigg, John Hemmerde, Edward George Partington, Oswald
Bright, J. A. Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Paulton, James Mellor
Brooke, Stopford Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Bryce, J. Annan Henry, Charles S. Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe) Pearson, Sir W. D. (Colchester)
Byles, William Pollard Higham, John Sharp Pearson, W.H.M.(Suffolk, Eye)
Causton, Rt. Hn. Richard Knight Hobhouse, Charles E. H. Philipps, Owen C. (Pembroke)
Cawley, Sir Frederick Hodge, John Pickersgill, Edward Hare
Chance, Frederick William Holt, Richard Durning Pirie, Duncan V.
Channing, Sir Francis Allston Hope, W. Bateman (Somerset, N Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Cheetham, John Frederick Horniman, Emslie John Price, C. E. (Edinb'gh, Central)
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Horridge, Thomas Gardner Priestley, Arthur (Grantham)
Cleland, J. W. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Radford, G. H.
Clough, William Hudson, Walter Raphael, Herbert H.
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Hyde, Clarendon Rea, Russell (Gloucester)
Collins, Sir Wm. J.(S. Pancras, W Idris, T. H. W. Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro')
Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Illingworth, Percy H. Rendall, Athelstan
Cooper, G. J. Jackson, R. S. Richards, T. F.(Wolverh'mpt'n
Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Grinst'd Jenkins, J. Richardson, A.
Cory, Sir Clifford John Johnson, John (Gateshead) Ridsdale, E. A.
Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Johnson, W. (Nuneaton) Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Cowan, W. H. Jones, Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Cox, Harold Jones, Leif (Appleby) Roberts, Sir John H.(Denbighs.)
Crooks, William Jones, William (Carnarvonshire Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradf'rd
Curran, Peter Francis Jowett, F. W. Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside)
Dalziel, James Henry Kearley, Sir Hudson E. Robinson, S.
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Kekewich, Sir George Robson, Sir William Snowdon
Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Laidlaw, Robert Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Brst'l, S. Lambert, George Roe, Sir Thomas
Dewar, Sir J. A. (Inverness-sh.) Lamont, Norman Rogers, F. E. Newman
Dobson, Thomas W. Lea, Hugh Cecil (St. Pancras, E. Rowlands, J.
Duckworth, James Lehmann, R. C. Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Dunne, Major E. Martin (Walsall Levy, Sir Maurice Rutherford, V. H. (Brentford)
Edwards, Clement (Denbigh) Lewis, John Herbert Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David Samuel, S. M.(Whitechapel)
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Scott, A.H.(Ashton-under-Lyne
Erskine, David C. Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Seaverns, J. H.
Essex, R. W. Lyell, Charles Henry Seddon, J.
Evans, Sir Samuel T. Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Shackleton, David James
Everett, R. Lacey Mackarness, Frederic C. Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Ferens, T. R. Maclean, Donald Shaw, Rt. Hon. T. (Hawick B.)
Foster, Rt. Hon. Sir Walter Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Sherwell, Arthur James
Fuller, John Michael F. McKean, John Silcock, Thomas Ball
Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John Thompson, J.W.H.(Somerset, E Whittaker, Rt. Hn. Sir Thomas P
Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton Wiles, Thomas
Snowden, P. Tomkinson, James Wilkie, Alexander
Spicer, Sir Albert Verney, F. W. Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Stanger, H. Y. Vivian, Henry Williams, Osmond (Merioneth)
Steadman, W. C. Wadsworth, J. Williamson, A.
Stewart, Halley (Greenock) Walker, H. De R. (Leicester) Wills, Arthur Walters
Strachey, Sir Edward Walsh, Stephen Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Straus, B. S. (Mile End) Walters, John Tudor Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon) Walton, Joseph Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Stuart, James (Sunderland) Ward, John (Stoke upon Trent) Wilson, P. W. (St. Pancras, S.)
Summerbell, T. Waring, Walter Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Sutherland, J. E. Wason, Rt. Hn. E. (Clackmannan Winfrey, R.
Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) Wood, T. M'Kinnon
Taylor, John W. (Durham) Watt, Henry A. Yoxall, James Henry
Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) Weir, James Galloway
Tennant, H. J. (Berwickshire) White, J. D. (Dumbartonshire) TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr. Joseph Pease and Master of Elibank.
Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr Whitehead, Rowland
Thomasson, Franklin Whitley, John Henry (Halifax)
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hn. Sir Alex. F. Fell, Arthur O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
Arkwright, John Stanhope Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Parkes, Ebenezer
Ashley, W. W. Forster, Henry William Rawlinson, John Frederick Pee
Balcarres, Lord Gardner, Ernest Remnant, James Farquharson
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gibbs, G. A. (Bristol, West) Renton, Leslie
Banner, John S. Harmood- Gooch, Henry Cubitt(Peckham) Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Gordon, J. Ronaldshay, Earl of
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Gretton, John Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Guinness, Walter Edward Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M. Hamilton, Marquess of Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Carlile, E. Hildred Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Sloan, Thomas Henry
Castlereagh, Viscount Heaton, John Henniker Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Cave, George Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield Starkey, John R.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Houston, Robert Paterson Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staff'sh.)
Cecil, Lord R. (Marylebone, E.) Joynson-Hicks, William Stone, Sir Benjamin
Clive, Percy Archer Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H. Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Coates, Major E. F. (Lewisham) Keswick, William Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Lanark
Collings, Rt. Hn. J.(Birmingh'm Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich) Thornton, Percy M.
Craik, Sir Henry Lockwood, Rt. Hn. Lt.-Col. A. R. Valentia, Viscount
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon Lonsdale, John Brownlee Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Doughty, Sir George Lowe, Sir Francis William Younger, George
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- M'Arthur, Charles
Du Cros, Arthur Philip Mildmay, Francis Bingham TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Hicks Beach and Mr. Wolff.
Duncan, Robt.(Lanark, Govan) Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield)
Faber, George Denison(York) Nield, Herbert
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