HC Deb 15 April 1907 vol 172 cc697-712

Postponed Proceedings on Question, "That the Proceedings on the Motions with respect to Business of the House (Procedure) shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion on Tuesday, the 16th day of April, in the following manner, and subject to the following provisions:—1. At 10 p.m. on that day, Mr. SPEAKER shall put forthwith the Question on any Amendment or other Motion already proposed from the Chair, and shall next proceed successively to put forthwith the Question on any Amendments or other Motions moved by the Government of which notice has been given (but on no other Amendment or Motion), and on any other Question necessary to dispose of the proceedings to be concluded; 2. On that, day the proceedings to which this Order relates shall not be interrupted under the provisions of any Standing Order relating to the Sittings of the House; 3. On that day no dilatory Motion, nor Motion for Adjournment under Standing Order No. 10, shall be received unless moved by a Minister of the Crown, and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith without debate; 4. Any opposed Private Business which has been set down for consideration on that day shall stand adjourned without Question put until such other day as the Chairman of Ways and Means may determine,"—(Sir II. Campbell-Bannerman,)—resumed.

Question again proposed.

MR. EVELYN CECIL

, continuing his speech in support of his Amendment giving an additional day to the discussion, said that a good many additional reasons had already been brought forward why the Government should allow a little more time for the discussion of the proposed Rules. They had not yet discussed the important question whether an hon. Member should be allowed to speak more than once upon the Report Stage, although the Prime Minister had promised that concession. Instead of carrying out his promise, the Prime Minister had put down an Amendment which practically limited the right of speaking more than once to the Member in charge of the Bill. He considered that the Government had approached very near to a breach of faith in the matter, and that was one of the reasons why they should be allowed more time. They had been discussing for some time the Question of allotting Grand Committees to different portions of the United Kingdom, and if the Resolution were adopted that policy of disintegration would be forced through without a semblance of discussion. There were other objections to the course pursued by the Government. One was the want of publicity which would necessarily attend the discussion of Bills in Grand Committees, for those discussions would take place with far less publicity than if they were discussed in a Committee of the House. They had not been told what would happen to the Bills committed to Grand Committees.

MR. AINSWORTH (Argyllshire)

, on a point of order, asked if the hon. Member was speaking to the terms of his Amendment.

*MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER

I understand that the hon. Member is arguing that more time should be allowed. Of course, it will not be in order to discuss the various questions for which he is asking for more time.

MR. JOHN WARD (Stoke-on-Trent)

asked if the hon. Member was in order in discussing questions which had already been settled by a vote of the House?

MR. EVELYN CECIL

said he was simply enumerating reasons why he thought more time ought to be given to the discussion of the proposed Rules, and he thought he had given three or four very good reasons. He wished to know were the Grand Committees to remain sitting during the ordinary sittings of the House? That was a point which required elucidation. None of the questions he had mentioned could be discussed if the Resolution passed as it stood. Therefore they naturally desired that more time should be given. He was not asking for very much. His Amendment merely asked half a day, Wednesday night being a private Members' night. There was nothing extravagant in his proposal, and it was one that offered some ground for compromise. The Prime Minister himself had said he regretted that they had not in this Parliament been able to make "deals" between the two sides as before. Why did not the Government consent to some arrangement? The perpetual determination not to give way or to make any "deal" on questions of this kind was necessarily a source of irritation and unpleasantness, and generally in the long run it could not fail to have the effect of making opposition to the Government proposals more bitter and more strenuous. It was for that reason that he pleaded with the Government to accept his Amendment. He thought it would remove a good deal of bitterness and unpleasantness. The House would then have an opportunity of discussing the important questions he had mentioned, and they would be in better humour with each other, perhaps, for the greater part of the session. He thought the Government had plenty of time. It was understood that the Government had dropped the Licensing Bill. They had to all intents and purposes dropped the Irish University Bill. Two highly controversial measures had, therefore, been removed from the list of Bills to be passed this session. Perhaps he might even say it had been rumoured that there was to be no Home Rule Bill. At any rate, there would be considerable time at the disposal of the Government if they were going to devote the rest of the session to the disintegration of the Army and the destruction of the landlords. There would be nothing like the pressure on the time of the House which certainly there would have been if they had introduced those other Bills. He thought it would be a good omen for the discussion of the measures they intended to proceed with if they would grant the moderate request for half a day more to discuss what were really non-Party matters affecting the procedure of the House.

SIR F. BANBURY

seconded the Amendment. He said that when he addressed a few remarks to the House earlier in the afternoon, he was singularly fortunate in having the pleasure and the honour of being listened to by the President of the Board of Education. That was about five o'clock, and the right hon. Gentleman was then the only occupant of the Treasury Bench, and now at twenty minutes past nine the right hon. Gentleman was still there. The right hon. Gentleman appeared to occupy the position of maid of all work to the Government. He did not criticise the capability of the right hon. Gentleman to fill that or any other position, but he rose to call attention to the absence of the Prime Minister. This was the most important question that had been before the House in this generation. [MINISTERIAL laughter.] He was surprised to hear that laughter. The new rules were designed to stifle free discussion. One of the reasons why the Opposition asked for further discussion was that the proposals would put still greater powers in the hands of the Executive, and he would remind the House that on 6th February, 1902, when new Rules of Procedure were then being discussed, the Prime Minister said— We must take cure that we do not, wittingly or unwittingly, exalt the power of the Executive and diminish the control of the House at large. Facilitate the progress of basines as much as you like; make it as reasonable and as easy as you like; but do not do anything which will have the effect of placing the House of Commons more and more at the mercy of the Government of the day. They wanted more time to discuss these Rules in order to get assurances from the Government that they did not intend to violate the excellent principles laid down by the right hon. Gentleman. One of the reasons why the right hon. Gentleman would not give an extra half-day was that he knew perfectly well that he and his friends were unable to answer the arguments advanced by the Opposition. He felt sure that the right hon. Gentleman, in view of the words which he had just quoted, would assent to the Amendment of his hon. friend.

Amendment proposed— In line 2, after the word 'shall,' to insert the words 'be taken on Tuesday and.'"—(Mr. Evelyn Cecil.)

Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."

SIR HENRY CRAIK

appealed to the Prime Minister to consider whether he could not make this concession. He had no doubt there were good reasons for the absence of the Prime Minister from so important a debate, but he would point out that certain grave inconvenience arose from his absence. Arguments were addressed to the Front Bench and especially to the Prime Minister, and in his absence they were entirely overlooked, or when he came in at occasional intervals he spoke without the slightest regard to the fact that those arguments had been advanced. The small Amendment which his hon. friend had proposed would give them a little time for the discussion of the important proposal for the setting up a special Scottish Standing Committee. The Prime Minister had said that there was practically unanimity in Scotland in favour of the proposal, but he absolutely denied that.

*MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER

said that the question whether or not there was unanimity in favour of the proposal was not now under discussion.

SIR HENRY CRAIK

remarked that in an Amendment of the same character the Prime Minister was allowed to use the argument of unanimity; but he maintained that there was no such unanimity, and a longer time was required to discuss the matter which ought not to be passed sub silentio tomorrow. The Prime Minister had also stated that the new Rule was practically the Resolution passed in 1894 and 1895. If the right hon. Gentleman had taken the trouble to be present during the debate, he would have heard that argument refuted. The Resolutions passed in 1894 and 1895 were merely Sessional Orders.

*MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER

said the hon. Member must confine himself to the matter as it affected the question of allowing an additional half day.

SIR HENRY CRAIK

contended that he had a right to show that it was not a fair argument to limit the time for the discussion of the new Rule that there was absolute unanimity in Scotland, and that it was identical with the Resolutions passed in 1894 and 1895 [MINISTERIAL cries of "Order"]; and he was not going to be stopped by a dozen Deputy Chairmen on the other side.

*MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER

said that the hon. Member was again disregarding his ruling, and he must ask him to keep to the Question before the House.

SIR HENRY CRAIK

said he bowed to the Deputy Speaker's ruling. He was not entitled, as he understood, to bring forward these arguments in refutation of the arguments used by the Prime Minister. He considered that the demand pressed upon the Government was a very moderate one, which, if there was any desire to meet the legitimate claims of Scotland, ought certainly to be conceded.

MR. WILLIAM RUTHERFORD (Liverpool, West Derby)

said he desired to support the Amendment for reasons entirely different from those given by the last speaker. The power of closure and of consequential closure to be given to the Chairmen of Grand Committees would, under the arrangement proposed by the Government, be sanctioned without discussion, although it was the most important point that yet remained to be debated. There was a further Amendment on the point of which he had given notice, but which he supposed would be defeated. It seemed to him that the Chairmen of Grand Committees had already ample powers of closure, without this further power of closuring consequential Amendments. They could always rely on the Speaker and Deputy Speaker to take fair and reasonable view as to when conse-

quential closure might be allowed; but they should not give to the five or six Chairmen of the Grand Committees, who were Party men, and had not the same exalted position as the Speaker and the Deputy-Speaker, the power to rule out of discussion whole pages of Amendments. He objected, as an independent Member, to this great power of consequential closure being conferred upon any Party man who perhaps expected to be appointed as a Charity Commissioner for the manner in which he had carried out his duties as a Chairman of a Grand Committee.

MR. PIRIE

said that although he was a sufferer himself from the fact that matters affecting Scotland might not be fully discussed, he wished to protest against the exhibition of dilatory tactics on the other side, by which hours had been wasted that might have been devoted to the discussion of matters in which the whole House was really interested.

Question put.

The House divided:—Ayes, 83; Noes, 294. (Division List, No. 118.)

AYES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hn. Sir Alex F. Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Nield, Herbert
Anson, Sir William Reynell Duncan, Robert (Lanark, Gov'n Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington
Ashley, W. W. Faber, George Denison (York) Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Balcarres, Lord Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.) Randles, Sir John Scurrah
Balfour, Rt Hn. A. J. (City Lond. Fell, Arthur Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Roberts, S. (Sheflield, Ecclesall)
Baring, Capt. Hn. G. (Winchester Finch, Rt. Hon. George H. Rutherford, John (Lancashire)
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N Forster, Henry William Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Beach, Hn. Michael Hugh Hicks Gardner, Ernest (Berks, East) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Haddock, George R. Sandys, Lieut-Col. Thos. Myles
Bignold, Sir Arthur Hamilton, Marquess of Sloan, Thomas Henry
Bowles, G. Stewart Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Boyle, Sir Edward Harrison-Broadley, Col. H. B. Smith, F. L. (Liverpool, Walton)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Hay, Hon. Claude George Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Butcher, Samuel Henry Helmsley, Viscount Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M. Hervey, F. W. F. (Bury S. Edm'ds Thomson, W. Mitchell-(Lanark)
Carlile, E. Hildred Houston, Robert Paterson Tuke, Sir John Batty
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Hunt, Rowland Valentia, Viscount
Cave, George Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H. Walker, Col. W. H. (Lancashire)
Cecil, Lord R. (Marylebone, E.) Kenyon-Slaney, Rt. Hn. Col. W. Walrond, Hon. Linoel
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J. A. (Worc. Kimber, Sir Henry Warde, Col. C. E. (Kent, Mid).
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Lane-Fox, G. R. Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Collings, Rt. Hn. J. (Birmingh'm Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Lockwood, Rt. Hn. Lt.-Col. A. R. Younger, George
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Lowe, Sir Francis William
Courthope, G. Loyd M'Iver, Sir Lewis (Edinburgh W. TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S. Magnus, Sir Philip Mr. Evelyn Cecil and Sir
Craig, Capt. James (Down, E.) Middlemore, John Throgmorton Henry Craik.
Cross, Alexander Mildmay, Francis Bingham
NOES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E.) Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Lamb, Ernest H. (Rochester)
Acland, Francis Dyke Davies, W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Lambert, George
Adkins, W. Ryland D. Delany, William Lamont, Norman
Agnew, George William Dewar, Arthur (Edinburgh, S.) Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington
Ainsworth, John Stirling Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness Lever, A. Levy (Essex, Harwich
Allen, A. Acland (Christchurch) Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne) Lever, W. H. (Cheshire, Wirral)
Ambrose, Robert Edwards, Clement (Denbigh) Levy, Maurice
Armitage, R. Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Lewis, John Herbert
Ashton, Thomas Gair Edwards, Frank (Radnor) Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David
Astbury, John Meir Elibank, Master of Lundon, W.
Baker, Sir John (Portsmouth) Erskine, David C. Luttrell, Hugh Fownes
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Essex, R. W. Lynch, H. B.
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Esslemont, George Birnie Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk B'ghs.
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Evans, Samuel T. Mackarness, Frederic C.
Barker, John Eve, Harry Trelawney Maclean, Donald
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) j Everett, R. Lacey Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Barnard, E. B. Faber, G. H. (Boston) MacVeagh, Jeremiah (Down, S.
Barnes, G. N. Fenwick, Charles MacVeigh, Charles (Donegal, E.
Barran, Rowland Hirst Ferens, T. R. M'Callum, John M.
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Ferguson, R. C. Munro M'Crae, George
Beale, W. P. Ffrench, Peter M'Kenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald
Beauchamp, E. Findlay, Alexander M'Killop, W.
Beck, A. Cecil Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry M'Micking, Major G.
Bellairs, Carlyon Fuller, John Michael F. Maddison, Frederick
Benn, W. (T'w'r Hamlets, S. Geo. Fullerton, Hugh Mallet, Charles E.
Bennett, E. N. Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John Mansfield, H. Rendall (Lincoln
Berridge, T. H. D. Glover, Thomas Marks, G. Croydon (Launceston)
Bethell, Sir J. H. (Essex, Romfd Greenwood, G. (Peterborough) Marnham, F. J.
Bethell, T. R. (Essex, Maldon) Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Massie, J.
Billson, Afred Griffith, Ellis J. Meagher, Michael
Black, Arthur W. Gulland, John W. Menzies, Walter
Boland, John Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton Micklem, Nathaniel
Brace, William Gwynn, Stephen Lucius Molteno, Percy Alport
Bramsdon, T. A. Hall, Frederick Montagu, E. S.
Brigg, John Halpin, J. Mooney, J. J.
Bright, J. A. Hardy, George A. (Suffolk) Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen
Brocklehurt, W. B. Harmsworth, Cecil B. (Worc'r) Morley, Rt. Hon. John
Brodie, H. C. Harms worth, R. L. (Caithn'ss-sh Morrell, Philip
Brunner, J. F. L. (Lancs., Leigh) Harrington, Timothy Morton, Alpheus Cleophas
Bryce, J. Annan Hart-Davies, T. Myer, Horatio
Buckmaster, Stanley O. Harvey, A. G. C. Rochdale) Napier, T. B.
Burke, E. Haviland- Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Newnes, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw)
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Haworth, Arthur A. Nolan, Joseph
Burnyeat, W. J. D. Hazel, Dr. A. E. Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Helme, Norval Watson Nuttall, Harry
Byles, William Pollard Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) O'Brien, Kendal (Tipperary Mid
Cameron, Robert Henry, Charles S. O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.)
Cawley, Sir Frederick Higham, John Sharp O'Doherty, Philip
Cheetham, John Frederick Hobhouse, Charles E. H. O'Donnell, C. J. (Walworth)
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Hodge, John O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.
Clarke, C. Goddard Hogan, Michael O'Malley, William
Cleland, J. W. Holland, Sir William Henry O'Mara, James
Clough, William Holt, Richard Durning Parker, James (Halifax)
Clynes, J. R. Hope, W. Bateman (Somerset, N Partington, Oswald
Cobbold, Felix Thornley Horniman, Emslie John Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Horridge, Thomas Gardner Philipps, Col. Ivor (S'thampton
Collins, Sir W m. J. (S. Pancras, W. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Philipps, J. Wynford (Pembroke
Condon, Thomas Joseph Hyde, Clarendon Pirie, Duncan V.
Cooper, G. J. Illingworth, Percy H. Power, Patrick Joseph
Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Gr'st'd) Jackson, H. S. Price, Robert John (Norfolk, E.)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Jenkins, J. Priestley, W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Cory, Clifford John Johnson, W. (Nuneaton) Rainy, A. Rolland
Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Jones, Sir D. Brynmor(Swansea Raphael, Herbert H.
Cowan, W. H. Jones, Leif (Appleby) Rea, Russell (Gloucester)
Cox, Harold Jones, William (Carnarvonshire Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro'
Crean, Eugene Joyce, Michael Redmond, John E. (Waterford
Cremer, William Randal Kekewich, Sir George Redmond, William (Clare)
Crombie, John William Kennedy, Vincent Paul Renton, Major Leslie
Crossley, William J. Kincaid-Smith, Captain Richards, T. F. (Wolverh'mpt'n
Dalziel, James Henry King, Alfred John (Knutsford) Rickett, J. Compton
Davies, David (Montgomery Co. Laidlaw, Robert Ridsdale, E. A.
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Lamb, Edmund E. (Leominster Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) Stewart-Smith, D. (Kendal) Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney
Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) Strachey, Sir Edward Waterlow, D. S.
Robertson, Sir G Scott (Bradf'rd Straus, B. S. (Mile End) Watt, Henry A.
Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Robinson, S. Summerbell, T. White, J. D. (Dumbartonshire)
Roe, Sir Thomas Sutherland, J. E. White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Rogers, F. E. Newman Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Rose, Charles Day Taylor, John W. (Durham) Whitley, John Henry (Halifax
Runciman, Walter Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe Whittaker, Sir Thomas Palmer
Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland) Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) Wiles, Thomas
Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.) Wilkie, Alexander
Scarisbrick, T. T. L. Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr Willams, J. (Glamorgan)
Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde) Thomasson, Franklin Williams, Llewelyn (Cramarth'n
Schwann, Sir C. E. (Manchester) Thompson, J. W. H. (Somerset, E. Williams, Osmond (Merioneth
Scott, A. H. (Ashton-under-Lyne Torrance, Sir A. M. Wills, Arthur Walters
Sears, J. E. Toulmin, George Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Shaw, Rt, Hon. T. (Hawick B.) Ure, Alexander Wilson, J. H. (Middlesbrough)
Sheehan, Daniel Daniel Verney, F. W. Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.)
Sherwell, Arthur James Vivian, Henry Wilson, P. W. (St. Pancras, S.)
Shipman, Dr. John G, Walker, H. Ds R. (Leicester) Wood, T. M'Kinnon
Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John Walsh, Stephen Yoxall, James Henry
Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie Walters, John Tudor
Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) Walton, Sir John L. (Leeds, S.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Snowden, P. Ward, John (Stoke upon Trent Mr. Whiteley and Mr. J. A.
Spicer, Sir Albert Wardle, George J. Pease.
Stanger, H. Y. Waring, Walter
Steadman, W. C. Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan

Main Question put.

The House divided:—Ayes, 289; Noes, 87. (Division List No. 119.)

AYES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E.) Brodie, H. C. Davies, W. Howell (Brist ol, S.)
Acland, Francis Dyke Brunner, J. F. L. (Lanes., Leigh Delany, William
Adkins, W. Ryland D. Bryce, J. Annan Dewar, Arthur (Edinburgh, S.
Agnew, George William Buckmaster, Stanley O. Duncan, C (Barrow-in-Furness
Ainsworth, John Stirling Burke, E. Haviland- Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne
Allen, A. Acland (Christchurch Burns, Rt. Hon. John Edwards, Clement (Denbigh)
Ambrose, Robert Burnyeat, W. J. D. Edwards, Enoch (Hanley)
Armitage, R. Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Edwards, Frank (Radnor)
Ashton, Thomas Gair Byles, William Pollard Elibank, Master of
Astbury, John Meir Cameron, Robert Erskine, David C.
Baker, Sir John (Portsmouth) Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. Essex, R. W.
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Cawley, Sir Frederick Esslemont, George Birnie
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Cheetham, John Frederick Eve, Harry Trelawney
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Everett, R. Lacey
Barker, John Clarke, C. Goddard Faber, G. H. (Boston)
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) Cleland, J. W. Fenwick, Charles
Barnard, E. B. Clough, William Ferens, T. R.
Barnes, G. N. Clynes, J. R. Ferguson, R. C. Munro
Barran, Rowland Hirst Cobbold, Felix Thornley Ffrench, Peter
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N. Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Fiennes, Hon. Eustace
Beale, W. P. Condon, Thomas Joseph Findlay, Alexander
Beauchamp, E. Cooper, G. J. Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry
Beck, A. Cecil Corbett, C. H (Sussex, E. Grinst'd Fuller, John Michael F.
Bellairs, Carlyon Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Fullerton, Hugh
Benn, W. (T'r Hamlets, S. Geo. Cory, Clifford John Gardner, Col. Alan (Hereford, S.
Berridge, T. H. D. Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John
Bethell, Sir J. H. (Essex, Romf'rd Cowan, W. H. Glover, Thomas
Bethell, T. R. (Essex, Maldon) Cox, Harold Greenwood, G. (Peterborough
Billson, Alfred Crean, Eugene Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward
Black, Arthur W. Cremer, William Randal Gulland, John W.
Boland, John Crombie, John William Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton
Brace, William Crossley, William J. Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
Bramsdon, T. A. Dalziel, James Henry Hall, Frederick
Brigg, John Davies, David (Montgomery Co. Halpin, J.
Bright, J. A. Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Hardy, George A. (Suffolk)
Brocklehurst, W. B. Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithn'ss-sh
Harrington, Timothy Marnham, F. J. Sears, J. E.
Hart-Davies, T. Mason, A. E. W. (Coventry) Shaw, Rt. Hon. T. (Hawick, B.)
Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Massie, J. Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Meagher, Michael Sherwell, Arthur James
Haworth, Arthur A. Menzies, Walter Shipman, Dr. John G.
Hazel, Dr. A. E. Micklem, Nathaniel Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John
Helme, Norval Watson Molteno, Percy Alport Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie
Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W. Montagu, E. S. Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.
Henry, Charles S. Mooney, J. J. Snowdon, P.
Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Higham, John Sharp Morrell, Philip Stanger, H. Y.
Hobhouse, Charles E. H. Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Steadman, W. C.
Hodge, John Myer, Horatio Stewart-Smith, D. (Kendal)
Hogan, Michael Napier, T. B. Strachey, Sir Edward
Holland, Sir William Henry Newnes, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw) Straus, B. S. (Mile End)
Holt, Richard Durning Nolan, Joseph Summerbell, T.
Hope, W. Bateman (Somerset, N Nuttall, Harry Sutherland, J. E.
Horniman, Emslie John O'Brien, Kendal (Tipperary Mid Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Horridge, Thomas Gardner O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Howard, Hon. Geoffrey O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Hutton, Alfred Eddison O'Doherty, Philip Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Hyde, Carendon O'Donnell, C. J. (Walworth) Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Illingworth, Percy H. O'Grady, J. Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr)
Jackson, R. S. O' Kelly, James (Roscommon, N Thomasson, Franklin
Jenkins, J. O'Malley, William Thompson, J. W. H. (Somerset, E
Johnson, W. (Nuneaton) O'Mara, James Torrance, Sir A. M.
Jones, Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea Parker, James (Halifax) Toulmin, George
Jones, William (Carnarvonshire Partington, Oswald Ure, Alexander
Joyce, Michael Pearce, William (Limehouse) Verney, F. W.
Kekewich, Sir George Philipps, Col. Ivor (S'thampton) Vivian, Henry
Kennedy, Vincent Paul Philipps, J. Wynford (Pembroke Walker, H. De R. (Leicester)
Kincaid-Smith, Captain Pirie, Duncan V. Walsh, Stephen
King, Alfred John (Knutsford Power, Patrick Joseph Walters, John Tudor
Laidlow, Robert Price, Robert John (Norfolk, E.) Walton, Sir John L. (Leeds, S.)
Lamb, Edmund G. (Leominster Priestley, W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Lamb, Ernest H. (Rochester) Radford, G. H. Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton
Lambert, George Rainy, A. Rolland Waring, Walter
Lamont, Norman Raphael, Herbert H. Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan)
Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington Rea, Russell (Gloucester) Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Lever, A. Levy (Essex, Harwich Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro' Waterlow, D. S.
Lever, W. H. (Cheshire, Wirral Redmond, John E. (Waterford Watt, Henry A.
Levy, Maurice Redmond, William (Clare) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Lewis, John Herbert Richards, F. (Wolverh'mpt'n White, J. D. (Dumbartonshire
Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David Rickett, J. Compton White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Lundon, W. Ridsdale, E. A. White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Whitley, John Henry (Halifax)
Macdonald, J. M. (Flkirk B'ghs Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) Wiles, Thomas
Mackarness, Frederic C. Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) Wilkie, Alexander
Maclean, Donald Robertson, Sir G Scott (Bradf'rd Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarth'n
MacVeagh, Jeremiah (Down, S. Robinson, S. Williams, Osmond (Merioneth)
MacVeigh, Charles (Donegal, E. Robson, Sir William Snowdon Wills, Arthur Walters
M'Callum, John M. Roe, Sir Thomas Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
M'Crae, George Rogers, F. E. Newman Wilson, J. H. (Middlesbrough)
M'Kenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Rose, Charles Day Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.)
M'Killop, W. Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland Wilson, P. W. (St. Pancras, S.)
M'Micking, Major G. Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Wood, T. M'Kinnon
Maddison, Frederick Scarisbrick, T. T. L. Yoxall, James Henry
Mallet, Charles E. Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde)
Mansfield, H. Rendall (Lincoln Schwann, Sir C. E. (Manchester) TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr.
Marks, G. Croydon (Launceston Scott, A. H. (Ashton under Lyne Whiteley and Mr. J. A. Pease.
NOES.
Anson, Sir William Reynell Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N. Bridgeman, W. Clive
Ashley, W. W. Beach, Hn. Michael Hugh Hicks Butcher, Samuel Henry
Balcarres, Lord Beckett, Hon. Gervase Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M.
Balfour, Rt Hn. A. J. (City Lond.) Bignold, Sir Arthur Carlile, E. Hildred
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Bowles, G. Stewart Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.
Baring, Capt. Hn. G. (Winchester Boyle, Sir Edward Cave, George
Cavendish, Rt. Hon. Victor C. W. Hay, Hon. Claude George Rutherford, John (Lancashire)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Helmsley, Viscount Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Cecil, Lord R. (Marylebone, E. Hervey, F. W. F. (Bury S. Edm'ds Salter, Arthur Clavell
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J. A. (Worc. Hill, Sir Clement (Shrewsbury) Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Houston, Robert Paterson Sloan, Thomas Henry
Collings, Rt. Hn. J. (Birmingham Hunt, Rowland Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H. Smith, F. E. (Liverpool, Walton)
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Kenyon-Slaney, Rt. Hon. Col. W Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S. Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm Starkey, John R.
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Lane-Fox, G. R, Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Craik, Sir Henry Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich) Thomson, W. Mitchel-(Lanark)
Cross, Alexander Lockwood, Rt. Hn. Lt.-Col. A. R. Tuke, Sir John Batty
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Lowe, Sir Francis William Walker, Col. W. H. (Lancashire)
Duncan, Robert (Lanark, Govan MacIver, David (Liverpool) Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Faber, George Denison (York) M'Iver, Sir Lewis (Edinburgh W. Warde, Col. C. E. (Kent, Mid)
Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.) Magnus, Sir Philip Wardle, George J.
Fell, Arthur Mason, James F. (Windsor) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Middlemore, John Throgmorton Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Finch, Rt. Hon. George H. Mildmay, Francis Bingham Younger, George
Forster, Henry William Nield, Herbert
Gardner, Ernest (Berks, East) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Sir
Haddock, George R. Powell, Sir Francis Sharp Alexander Acland-Hood and
Hamilton, Marquess of Randles, Sir John Scurrah Viscount Valentia.
Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Harrison-Broadley, Co. H. B. Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)

Ordered, That the Proceedings on the Motions with respect to Business of the House (Procedure) shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion on Tuesday, the l6th day of April, in the following manner, and subject to the following provisions:—1. At ten p.m. on that day, Mr. SPEAKER shall put forthwith the Question or any Amendment or other Motion already proposed from the Chair, and shall next proceed successively to put forthwith the Question on any Amendments or other Motions moved by the Government of which notice has been given (but on no other Amendment or Motion), and on any other Question necessary to dispose of the Proceedings to be concluded; 2. On that day the proceedings to which this Order relates shall not be interrupted under the provisions of any Standing Order relating to the Sittings of the House; 3. On that day no dilatory Motion, nor Motion for Adjournnent under Standing Order No. 10, shall be received unless moved by a Minister of the Crown, and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith without debate; 4. Any opposed Private Business which has been set down for consideration on that day shall stand adjourned without Question put until such other day as the Chairman of Ways and Means may determine.