HC Deb 09 August 1904 vol 139 cc1655-9

7. Question put, "That a sum, not exceeding £341,246, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the Year ending on the 31st day of March, 1905, for Expenditure in respect of the fallowing Services included in Class VI. of the Estimates for Civil Services, viz.:—

£
1. Superannuation and Retired Allowances 339,729
2. Merchant Seamen's Fund Pensions 600
3. Miscellaneous Charitable and other Allowances 617
4. Hospitals and Charities, Ireland 300
£341,246"

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 181; Noes, 88. (Division List No. 323.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Anson, Sir William Reynell Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S. Heath, James (Staffords. N. W.
Arkwright, John Stanhope Cripps, Charles Alfred Heaton, John Henniker
Arnold-Forster, Rt Hn. Hugh O. Crossley, Rt. Hon. Sir Savile Helder, Augustus
Arrol, Sir William Dalkeith, Earl of Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Davenport, William Bromley- Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham Hornby, Sir William Henry
Bain, Colonel James Robert Dickson, Charles Scott Houston, Robert Paterson
Balcarres, Lord Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph Howard, J. (Kidd., Tottenham
Balfour, Rt. Hn Gerald W. (Leeds Dorington, Rt. Hn. Sir John E. Hudson, George Bickersteth
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Hunt, Rowland
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Doxford, Sir William Theodore Jameson, Major J. Eustace
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin Duke, Henry Edward Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.
Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Bigwood, James Fergusson, Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r Kennedy, I. J. (Westmeath,N.)
Bingham, Lord Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Kenyon, Hn. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Blundell, Colonel Henry Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas Keswick, William
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Fisher, William Hayes Kimber, Sir Henry
Boulnois, Edmund Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon Knowles, Sir Lees
Bousfield, William Robert Flannery, Sir Fortescue Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Brassey, Albert Flower, Sir Ernest Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th)
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Forster, Henry William Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Bull, William James Galloway, William Johnson Lee, Arthur H. (Hants., Fareham
Butcher, John George Gardner, Ernest Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Gordon, Hn. J. E. (Elgin & Nairn) Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S.
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh. Gordon, J. (Londonderry, S.) Llewellyn, Evan Harry
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby- Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) Goschen, Hon. George Joachim Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A (Worc. Gray, Ernest (West Ham) Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S)
Charrington, Spencer Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Clare, Octavius Leigh Greene, W. Raymond- (Cambs.) Lowe, Francis William
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Grenfell, William Henry Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)
Coghill, Douglas Harry Gretton, John Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth)
Colomb, Rt. Hn. Sir John C. R. Hall, Edward Marshall Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole Hamilton, Marq. of (L'nd'nderry Macdona, John Cumming
Compton, Lord Alwyne Haslett, Sir James Horner MacIver, David (Liverpool)
Macorochie, A. W. Plummer, Sir Walter R. Stanley, Rt. Hn. Lord (Lancs.)
M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) Powell, Sir Francis Sharp Stroyan, John
Malcolm, Ian Pretyman, Ernest George Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F. Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Mildmay, Francis Bingham Purvis, Robert Thornton, Percy M.
Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) Pym, C. Guy Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Moon, Edward Robert Pacy Randles, John S. Tuft, Charles
Morgan, David J. (Walthamstow Ratcliff, R. F. Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Morpeth, Viscount Reid, James (Greenock) Valentia, Viscount
Morrell, George Herbert Remnant, James Farquharson Walker, Col. William Hall
Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer Renwick, George Warde, Colonel C. E.
Mount, William Arthur Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge) Webb, Colonel William George
Murray, Rt. Hn. A. Graham (Bute Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) Rolleston, Sir John F. L. Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Myers, William Henry Rollit, Sir Albert Kaye Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.
Newdegate, Francis A. N. Round, Rt. Hon. James Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Nicholson, William Graham Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool) Wylie, Alexander
O'Neill, Hon. Herbert Torrens Sackville, Col. S. G. (Stopford- Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Palmer, Sir Walter (Salisbury) Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles Wyndham-Quin, Col. W. H.
Parker, Sir Gilbert Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Parkes, Ebenezer Sharpe, William Edward T. TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Ailwyn Fellowes.
Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Percy, Earl Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Pierpoint, Robert Sloan, Thomas Henry
Platt-Higgins, Frederick Spear, John Ward
NOES.
Ashton, Thomas Gair Fuller, J. M. F. Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Bell, Richard Grant, Corrie Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Benn, John Williams Griffith, Ellis J. Robson, William Snowdon
Boland, John Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Runciman, Walter
Bolton, Thomas Dolling Harcourt, Lewis V. (Rossendale Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Brigg, John Harwood, George Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Bright, Allan Heywood Helme, Norval Watson Shackelton, David James
Broadhurst, Henry Higham, John Sharpe Shipman, Dr. John G.
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E.) Slack, John Bamford
Buxton, Sydney Charles Holland, Sir William Henry Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Caldwell, James Horniman, Frederick John Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R. (Northants
Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) Isaacs, Rufus Daniel Sullivan, Donal
Causton, Richard Knight Jacoby, James Alfred Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Cawley, Frederick Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Churchill, Winston Spencer Jones, William (Carnarvonshire Tomkinson, James
Cremer, Williaim Randal Kennedy, Vincent P. (Cavan, W. Toulmin, George
Crooks, William Langley, Batty Tully, Jasper
Dalziel, James Henry Layland-Barratt, Francis Wallace, Robert
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Delany, William Leigh, Sir Joseph Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Levy, Maurice Weir, James Galloway
Doogan, P. C. Lewis, John Herbert Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Dunn, Sir William Lough, Thamas Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Elibank, Master of MacVeagh, Jeremiah Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Emmott, Alfred Moss, Samuel Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Evans, Sir Francis H. (Maidstone Nannetti, Joseph P. Yoxall. James Henry
Eve, Harry Trelawney Norman, Henry
Ffrench, Peter Partington, Oswald TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Luke White and Mr. Lyell.
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) Rea, Russell
Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Rigg, Richard
AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Gordon, J. (Londonderry, S.) Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath
Anson, Sir William Reynell Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby- Myers, William Henry
Arkwright, John Stanhope Goschen, Hon. George Joachim Newegate, Francis A. N.
Arnold-Forster, Rt. Hn. Hugh O. Gray, Ernest (West Ham) Nicholson, William Graham
Arrol, Sir William Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Greene, W. Raymond- (Cambs.) Palmer, Sir Walter (Salisbury)
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy Grenfell, William Henry Parker, Sir Gilbert
Bain, Colonel James Robert Gretton, John Parkes, Ebenezer
Balcarres, Lord Greville, Hon. Ronald Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington
Balfour, Rt Hn. Gerald W. (Leeds Hall, Edward Marshall Percy, Earl
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Hamilton, Marq. of (L'nd'nderry Pierpoint, Robert
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Haslett, Sir James Horner Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Plummer, Sir Walter R.
Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. Heath, James (Staffords. N. W. Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Bigwood, James Heaton, John Henniker Pretyman, Ernest George
Bingham, Lord Helder, Augustus Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Blundell, Colonel Henry Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. Purvis, Robert
Bond, Edward Hope J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside Pym, C. Guy
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Hornby, Sir William Henry Randles, John S.
Boulnois, Edmund Houston, Robert Paterson Ratcliff, R. F.
Bousfield, William Robert Howard, J. (Midd., Tottenham) Reid, James (Greenock)
Brassey, Albert Hudson, George Bickersteth Remnant, James Farquharson
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Hunt, Rowland Renwick, George
Butcher, John George Jameson, Major J. Eustace Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. Jeffreys, Rt. Hn. Arthur Fred. Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Kennedy, P. J. (Westmeath, N.) Rollit, Sir Albert Kaye
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh) Round, Rt. Hon. James
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J. A. (Worc. Keswick, William Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Charrington, Spencer Kimber, Sir Henry Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Clare, Octavius Leigh Knowles, Sir Lees Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Coghill, Douglas Harry Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th) Sharpe William Edward T.
Colomb, Rt. Hn. Sir John C. R. Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool) Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole Lee, Arthur H. (Hants, Fareham Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Compton, Lord Alwyne Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage Sloan, Thomas Henry
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Leveson-Gower, Frederick N S. Spear, John Ward
Craig, Chas. Curtis (Antrim, S. Llewellyn, Evan Henry Stanley, Rt. Hn. Lord (Lancs.)
Cripps, Charles Alfred Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine Stroyan, John
Crossley, Rt. Hon. Sir Savile Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Cust, Henry John C. Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S) Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Dalkeith, Earl of Lonsdale, John Brownlee Thornton, Percy M.
Davenport, William Bromley- Lowe, Francis William Tomlinson, Sir Win. Edw. M.
Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft) Tuff, Charles
Dickson, Charles Scott Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth) Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred Valentia, Viscount
Dorington, Rt. Hn. Sir John E. Macdona, John Cumming Walker, Col. William Hall
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- MacIver, David (Liverpool) Warde, Colonel C. E.
Doxford, Sir William Theodore Maconochic, A. W. Webb, Colonel William George
Duke, Henry Edward M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin Malcolm, Ian Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Fergusson Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F. Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Mildmay, Francis Bingham Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Fishier, William Hayes Moon, Edward Robert Pacy Wylie, Alexander
Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon Morgan, David J. (Walthamstow Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Flannery, Sir Fortescue Morpeth, Viscount Wyndham-Quin, Col. W. H.
Flower, Sir Ernest Morrell, George Herbert
Forster, Henry William Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Ailwyn Fellowes.
Galloway, William Johnson Mount, William Arthur
Gardner, Ernest Murray, Rt. Hn. A. Graham (Bute
Gordon, Hn. J. E. (Elgin & Nairn) Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
NOES.
Ashton, Thomas Gair Boland, John Bright, Allan Heywood
Atherley- Jones, L. Bolton, Thomas Dolling Broadhurst, Henry
Benn, John Williams Brigg, John Bryce, Rt. Hon. James
Buxton, Sydney Charles Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E.) Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Caldwell, James Holland, Sir William Henry Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) Horniman, Frederick John Shackleton, David James
Causton, Richard Knight Isaacs, Rufus Daniel Shipman, Dr. John G.
Cawley, Frederick Jacoby, James Alfred Slack, John Bamford
Churchill, Winston Spencer Jones Davin Brynmor (Swansea Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Cremer, William Randal Jones, William (Carnarvonshire Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R. (Northants
Dalziel, James Henry Kennedy, Vincent P. (Cavan, W. Sullivan, Donal
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) Langley, Batty Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Delany, William Layland-Barratt, Francis Thomas David Alfred (Merthyr)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington Tomkinson, James
Doogan, P. G. Leigh, Sir Joseph Toulmin, George
Dunn, Sir William Levy, Maurice Tully, Jasper
Elibank, Master of Lewis, John Herbert Ure, Alexander
Emmott, Alfred Lough, Thomas Wallace, Robert
Evans, Sir Francis H. (Maidstone Lyell, Charles Henry Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
Eve, Harry Trelawney MacVeagh, Jeremiah Weir, James Galloway
Ffrench, Peter M'Kenna, Reginald White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) Moss, Samuel Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Nannetti, Joseph P. Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Fuller, J. M. F. Norman, Henry Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Grant, Corrie Partington, Oswald Wilson, Henry T. (York., W. R.)
Griffith, Ellis J. Rea, Russell Yoxall, James Henry
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Rigg, Richard
Harcourt, Lewis V. (Rossendale Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Joseph Walton and Mr. Bell.
Harwood, George Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Helme, Norval Watson Robson, William Snowdon
Higham, John Sharpe Runciman, Walter
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