EDUCATION (ENGLAND AND WALES) BILLS.

HC Deb 20 November 1902 vol 115 cc97-144

Considered in Committee.

(In the Committee.)

[Mr. J. W. LOWTHER (Cumberland, Penrith) in the Chair.]

New Clause (Apportionment of school fees).

(9.0) DR. MACHAMARA

. continuing his speech, said he had not objection to the continuance of fees. That was a matter for the decision of the local education authority, who would know the particular circumstances. But what he did object to very strongly was that, if fees were charged, the money should be handed over to the managers. The Bill was quite clear on this matter. Clause 8 (d) laid it down that "the managers of the school shall, out of funds provided by them, keep the school in good repair," and so on. He desired to lay every possible stress on the words "out of funds provided by them." And now, under the pressure of a certain section of the Church of England, as he contended, the Government were proposing to whittle away the effect of those words. The Church of England repented of the bargain which had been made, finding it too onerous, and therefore the Government had come forward with a proposal to raid, to raid, to commandeer, the pence of the children amongst other things, in order to enable the managers to meet this obligation. The Bishop of London had said that the weak part of this bargain of the Government was the repairs. He understood now from the Secretary to the Board of Education that these voluntary subscriptions would fall off, and it was because of this that he now came forward with this new Clause.

*SIR WILLIAM ANSON

I said that would be the first impression, and that I did anticipate an immediate falling off in voluntary subscriptions.

DR. MACNAMARA

said that he might take it now that one of the reasons for the introduction of this Clause was that voluntary subscriptions were going to fall off. He thought that admission gave away the case. The subscriptions would fall off, and therefore the obligation that the manager should keep the school in good repair could not be carried out. Now it was proposed to raid the pence of the children in order to meet this obligation. As a manager of a voluntary school himself, he had no hesitation in characterising that as a mean and shabby thing. It had been said that the obligation imposed upon the managers to keep the school in good repair would prove to be a great strain, and that was put forward as a reason why hon. Gentleman opposite now supported this commandeering of the pence of the children. That strain ought to have been thought of before. Why were there no Amendments put down on the Government side when it was first said down that the managers of the schools should, out of funds provided by them, keep the school in good repair? Upon the discussion of Clause 8, sub-Section (d) there was a speech delivered by the hon. Member for Stretford which admirably met his view. Upon that occasion the hon. Member said— He quite agreed that the question of repairs was a very important one which ought to be dealt with according to the lines laid down in the Bill. That was to say that the managers should, out of funds provided by them, keep the school in good repair. The hon. Member for Stretford went on to say:— Here they were not dealing particularly with church schools or denominational schools, but with all the schools not provided by the local authority, many of them being schools in private hands. He admitted that there was a heavy burden cast on the owners of the schools, but according to the principles of the Bill they should bear it in return for certain advantages obtained. That was the speech by the hon. Member for the Stretford Division of Lancashire, who had been a very able supporter of the Government, more especially with regard to the financial part of this Bill, and he agreed that it was fair and just on the part of the Church that they should carry out this obligation. The hon. Member for Stretford further stated that:— It would be a great mistake to attempt to make the burden too light and certainly nothing could be worse than the recurrence of constant friction as to repairs. And now he came to the Attorney General. Speaking on the 29th of October when this particular sub-Section (d) of Clause 8 was under discussion the Attorney General said:— So far as repairs were concerned, both inside and out, the managers should keep the schools in a condition fit for educational purposes. After getting a pull on the endowments and on the teachers' houses, why did the Government now come down and commandeer the pence of the children? The other right hon. Member opposite who, with the Secretary to the Board of Education, represented the Oxford University, speaking upon the same occasion said:— What he had understood was that the fabric and its repairs were to be maintained by the owners, but that all else would be left in the hands of the local authority. What had the pence of the children to do with the owners? He would ask the right hon. Gentleman opposite who represented Oxford University whether he still adhered to that statement that the repairs were to be maintained by the owners. But this was not the question of owners at all. The local authority might charge fees if it liked, but they ought to stick to the original bargain, or concordat, and see that the repairs were maintained out of funds provided by the managers, or, as the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Oxford University said, out of the funds provided by the owners. No one could contend that the parents were the owners of these buildings. Then there was a speech made by the hon. Member for Salford, who, he thought, rather misunderstood the situation, for he spoke of voluntary contributions for keeping the schools going. As a matter of fact, the contributions for the maintenance of voluntary schools were to disappear. He was glad to say that it was not now a question of starving the schools, and no one had been more strenuous in insisting that these schools should come upon the public funds for their maintenance than himself. The possibility of starving the schools now disappeared, because they were going to put the voluntary schools of Salford on the Salford rates, and he hoped they would pay up cheerfully, and he believed it would turn out to be the best investment they had ever made. The hon. Gentleman opposite had said what a great hardship it would be to prevent the use of this money because of the poverty of the schools. He was glad to say that the schools would be beyond poverty in the future, because they would be on the rates; but the point he was now dealing with was the up-keep of the fabric out of the funds provided by the owners. The Members for Salford Division mentioned something about £11,000.

MR. PLATT - HIGGINS

That was the expenditure for the building of board schools.

DR. MACNAMARA

said he was not now dealing with the board schools but with the denominational schools. This £11,000 was he sum annually expended by the School Board of Salford as a sinking fund for the payment of interest on loans. He was not talking about these matters now, but about the up-keep of the fabric and repairs. He would take as an example the Salford voluntary schools. In the return to which the hon. Member referred, there was a statement in connection with the Salford voluntary schools which gave the amount expended up to the 31st of August, 1899, for fuel, lighting, cleaning, repairs, rent, and taxes. For all the voluntary schools in Salford for all these purposes, only one of which he was now dealing with, the whole expenditure was £8,491. If they took away the cost of fuel, lighting, cleaning, and rent, what amount would be left for repairs? Why should the Church be so anxious of its ability to meet that small item? He did not suppose that it would come to more than £1,000 a year, but surely in return for the right in Salford to have Church teaching given entirely at the public expense out of the rates and taxes, surely in return for the right to impose denominational tests upon the teachers and the right to use the Salford voluntary schools on Saturdays and Sundays for any purpose they liked and to use the public furniture free of cost, it was a very little thing to ask that they should stand by the original bargain with the managers of the schools, that out of funds provided by them they should keep the fabric in a good state of repair. He would go into one or two particulars with regard to the Salford voluntary schools. St. James' (Broughton) School, with an average attendance of 476 children, spent £86. 1s. 10d. on fuel, light, cleaning, repairs, rent and taxes. The corresponding figure for Cheetham Hill Wesleyan School, with over 300 children in average attendance, was £60 12s. 5d.; for Duke Street, Lower Broughton School, with an average attendance of 460, £86 3s. 1d.; of St. Andrew's National School, Lower Broughton, with an average attendance of 424, £58 1s. 11d. Taking even one-fourth of those amounts as being paid for repairs, could it be said that was an onerous burden in return for all the concessions that had been made. And yet this small obligation was being made. And yet this small obligation was being whittled away! They had no right to say that fees were a form of voluntary contribution; if fees were continued they should go to the parish in relief of the local rate, as they had done in the past, and the managers should be kept to the original obligation under Clause 8 (d).

Amendment proposed— To leave out the words from the word 'shall,' in line 3, to end of the Clause, and insert the words 'if they think fit, abolish such school fees; but if they continue to charge fees in respect of that school, shall credit the parish or parishes served by the school with the amount of the school fees as a contribution in relief of the charge upon the rates for the purpose of Part III. of this Act.'"—(Dr. Macnamara.)

Question proposed—"That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."

MR. PLATT-HIGGINS

said the remarks of the hon. Member for North Camberwell were rather misplaced. There were in Salford Board schools 14,000 children and in voluntary schools 21,000. To form an estimate of the value of the schools contributed by the denominations he took the figures of the Salford School Board. For 14,000 children they paid £16,000 in teachers' salaries and for appliances. Maintained at the same rate, the voluntary school expenditure would be £25,000. All the time that was given to denominational teaching was an hour weekly, equivalent to a twenty fifty part, or £1,000. That represented what the voluntary people were to receive. But what were they to give. For the building of the Board schools there was an expenditure of £11,000 a year. The voluntary schools in Salford, being half as many again as the Board schools, would therefore, on that basis, involve an expenditure of £16,000. That represented the amount given, and the return was £1,000. And yet the denominationalists were described as "Shylocks," and so forth! The circumstances did not warrant the epithets of mean and shabby. As to the repairs, the cost under the Salford School Board averaged 2s. 6d. per child. That would come to £2,500 on the number of children in the voluntary schools—not an inconsiderable sum. It would be a very difficult task to raise £100 a year in subscriptions in a poor district in Salford, where there were 800 children in the voluntary school. He therefore thought it would be a most unjustifiable proceeding to attempt to deprive the Salford denominations of the opportunity of allocating a share of these fees.

(9.28) MR. WHITLEY

thought the First Lord of the Treasury ought clearly to understand that they on that side of the House felt very strongly the breach of the undertaking with which the Bill was introduced. It was clearly understood that the owners of voluntary schools were to keep up the fabric of the schools at their expense. The Prime Minister would recollect that he (the hon. Member) withdrew an Amendment on the question of the rent to be charged for voluntary schools, on the promise that the Government would introduce a Clause enacting that the schools should be provided rent free. He put it to the Prime Minister that it was not right or straight that a large sum should be withdrawn from one side of the account when they had settled the other side. What were these fees? They were part of the costs which had been paid by the ratepayers, and surely if the ratepayers were to be called upon to find the whole cost of maintenance, those fees ought to be credited to the ratepayers, and not to the managers. In fact, this Clause was a deliberate breach of the pledge which the Prime Minister had given. The Secretary to the Board of Education admitted the fact that this second condition of things would be final. The hon. Gentleman said that he did anticipate that the subscriptions would fall off after this Bill had passed, and he used the words, "that the managers should therefore be assisted." What did that mean? It was to ease off the situation. There were no two possible meanings to these words. The right hon. Member for North-East Manchester said that the poor managers would have nothing to fall back on except the voluntary subscriptions, but the right hon. Baronet also told the Committee that the subscriptions would fall off. This Clause was a violation of the three-times given pledge to the House, that the fees were to be returned by the managers to the local authority for the immense privileges they were getting. The Government were fixing the patronage and power to appoint in one of the leading professions of the country on less then 60,000 civil servants. He would like to know whether that was a patronage to be measured in pounds. The fact was, that these fees would not be voluntarily paid on the part of the parents. If they were to be voluntary, why not accept the proposal of the hon. Member for North Camberwell, that if fees were charged by the local authority they ought to be credited to the rates of the parish in which the school was situated? The very fact that it was proposed that the local authority should, in the first instance, collect the fees without the parents knowing where they were going to, showed distinctly that, in this indirect way, the money would be provided for the up-keep of the non-provided schools. There was no getting out of the position that if the Government insisted on passing this Clause, they could no longer say that the managers of the voluntary schools were giving their schools rent free in return for the privileges they receive.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

said the hon. Gentleman had made an appeal to him on the subject of this Amendment, from which he gathered from the hon. Gentleman that he and others thought the Government had broken some promise or pledge, expressed or implied. The hon. Member for the Carnarvon Boroughs declared that his noble friend the Member for Greenwich had made a series of attacks on the Government in order to keep them up to the mark. Well, if attacks had that effect, he must be a most up-to-the-mark person. They had heard a great deal about efficiency, and he could not imagine efficiency at a higher point if attacks from all quarters led to that most desirable result. He could assure hon. Gentlemen opposite that the Government in this matter had really not swerved from the general line of policy, on this or any other point, which was enunicated in the earlier stages of the Bill. The hon. Gentleman opposite, following the excellent example set by himself and many of his friends had spoken at great length of a bargain which he said was made on the subject of the amount of assistance to be given to voluntary schools.

MR. WHITLEY

said the words he used were "the understanding which was given to the House when the right hon. Gentleman introduced the Bill."

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

said that in his last speech the hon. Gentleman might have called it an understanding, but on previous occasions he would not deny that he talked of a bargain. A bargain was between two people or two sets of people. Between whom was this bargain made? He denied that he had been a party to any bargain. He had never made a bargain with hon. Gentlemen opposite, or with hon. Gentlemen on this side of the House, with Nonconformists, with Catholics, or with any one. He had endeavoured to the best of his ability, on behalf of his colleagues, to pilot through the House an Education Bill—not a commercial transaction, but a Bill designed, he hoped successfully, to promote the great cause of education. It was not a Bill which embodied, or professed to embody. a bargain between the Government or the House and any denomination, it was a method, which they thought honourable and just, and, he hoped, not ungenerous, of dealing with the educational problem as it presented itself to them, with all the complications and difficulties incident to the long and changing history of education in this country. What was the complaint made against them in this particular instance? He would not enter into the controversy between his hon. friend the Member for Salford and the hon. Member for North Camberwell. He hoped the hon. Member for North Camberwell was right in thinking that the burden on the voluntary schools of Salford of carrying out repairs under the Bill would be small. But the controversy was not relevant to the present issue, which was whether, if the local authority permitted fees to be charged, the product of those fees should be divided between the managers of the schools and the local authority. That seemed to him to be an eminently fair arrangement, whether it was easy or difficult for the managers to carry out the repairs required of them by this Bill. It was not as if they were leaving to the managers the power of charging fees, whether the local authority liked it or not. The local authority was absolutely master of the situation— [OPPOSITION cries of "No."]— they could make every school in their area a free school if they liked, but if they permitted fees to be charged, as in many cases he hoped they would, it was proposed that the product of those fees should be divided between themselves and the managers. He could not understand what there was intrinsically unjust in that proposal, or what foundation it gave to the charge that the Government were departing from an imaginary bargain. The hon. Gentleman said that the Prime Minister, at an earlier stage in the debate, promised that he would introduce a provision that the produce of the fees should be handed over to the local authority. He said that that promise had been broken in spirit, that if fees were charged the whole product should be given to the local authority and should not be shared by anyone else. What shadow of ground was there for the very serious charge which the hon. Gentleman—in all good faith—had brought against His Majesty's Government? Surely a more baseless accusation of breach of faith had never been hurled, to use the hon. Gentleman's own expression, across the floor of the House, for that was not the hon. Gentleman's general method. What more shadowy ground could there be for any accusation of this rather serious kind brought against a responsible Government? The Government had given a promise which was carried out to the letter. He thought it would be felt, and he hoped it would be felt, by the hon. Gentleman who, not in the heat but in the rapidity of debate, had repeated the charge, that there was no foundation for that charge. He hoped that even the Member for North Camberwell in his righteous wrath would not do anything to render the task of voluntary managers more difficult.

DR. MACNAMARA

I am one of them.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

said he wondered if the hon. Member had an endowment in a teacher's house and a long list of others. He had no doubt the hon. Gentleman enjoyed them to the full, and he was sure the hon. Member would not refuse to others, including his hon. friend on the Ministerial side of the House, the advantages which he himself enjoyed.

MR. WHITLEY

said he wished to say a few words in reply to the Prime Minister. The right hon. Gentleman had left out of the account one item, which showed that this was an indirect way of enabling the mangers to claim a rent for their premises. The right hon. Gentleman laid stress on the fact that the local authority might, if they thought fit, charge fees, and he led the Committee to understand that the local authority would be a free agent in the matter. Certainly, he maintained that the local authority was not a free agent, because the managers would say, "We will only allow our schools to be open if you permit us to charge fees;" and then with that they would claim half the fees and appeal to the Board of Education. He contended that he had proved his case.

*MR. CORRIE GRANT () Warwickshire, Rugby

said that they had to thank the Prime Minister for a phrase which would become historic in connection with this Bill. The right hon. Gentleman had told them that he was not conducting a commercial transaction, but carrying an Education Bill.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

Trying to.

*MR. CORRIE GRANT

Trying to do it with the aid of the Closure and the guillotine, and not introducing the Clauses to which they objected until after he had imposed his guillotine. He would illustrate to the Prime Minister his point from a commercial transaction in a business notoriously the lowest in this country. It was a case which actually happened in a horse transaction. A man rode up on a very high-spirited, clever horse, and offered to sell it to a man who wanted to buy it. They arranged that the price should be, say, £100. The man who was sitting on the horse said to the man on the ground, "You agree to give me £100 for the horse?" The man on the ground replied "I agree." Then the man on the horse said, "What are you going to give me for the bridle?" The man on the ground said, "When I bought the horse I thought I bought it with the bridle too." "Oh, no," said the man on the horse, "if you take the horse without the bridle you can catch it if you can." The two then settled the price for the bridle. Then the man on the horse said, "What are you going to give me for the saddle?" And so there was another deal for the saddle. That was the way in which horse transactions were conducted, and that was the way the Government had conducted these transactions about this Bill. [Some MINISTERIAL cries of "Oh, oh."] He was very glad to hear the interruption. It showed that the Church which ocularly had throughout these debates been sitting behind the Government, had carried into this matter the spirit of men who dealt in horses. The Prime Minister asked for proof of the bargain. Well, the original draft of the Bill, Clause 8, sub-Section (d), said— The managers of the school shall, out of funds provided by them, keep the school house in good repair, and make such alterations and improvements in the buildings as may be reasonable required by the local authority. Was there any man in or outside that House who did not understand these words to mean that the managers themselves were to be the people to provide these funds? But when that Clause passed, what happened? First of all they had an obligatory arrangement about the rent for teachers' houses. Then there was the arrangement by which the Endowments in the parishes were taken for the benefit of the voluntary schools, and then they had this last arrangement to provide money for the managers, which, according to Clause8, they were to provide for themselves. The Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education repudiated that bargain.

*SIR WILLIAM ANSON

The existence of a bargain.

*MR. CORRIE GRANT

Well, the hon. Baronet repudiated the idea of a bargain; he repudiated the idea of terms; he said nothing of the kind ever happened. The Prime Minister said the Government were trying to pass an Education Bill, not conducting a commercial transaction. But on 29th October the Attorney General said that— So far as repairs were concerned, the managers would keep the schools in a condition fit for educational purposes. The right hon. Member for Oxford University thereupon wanted to know 'what the bargain was." Why, the right hon. Gentleman was the man who first negotiated the bargain!

MR. TALBOT () Oxford University

The hon. Gentleman should give some proof of that statement. I negotiated no bargain. If I had negotiated the so called bargain I should have tried to make a better one.

MR. CORRIE GRANT

Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman would not mind saving whether he was present at Convocation when the terms of the bargain were discussed?

MR. TALBOT

said he thought the hon. Gentleman ought to have known that he had not the honor to be a Member of Convocation. [OPPOSITION cries of "His brother."]

*MR. CORRIE GRANT

said he had thought the right hon. Gentleman was one of the persons who conducted the initial stages of the bargain. He now found he was wrong. It was not the right hon. Gentleman, but his brother; and he would be the last person to hold a man responsible for what his brother did. Then the quotation went on— Mr. Talbot wanted to know what the bargain was. What he understood was that the fabric and its repairs were to be maintained by the owners, and that all else would be put on the local authority. That, however, was now to be pressed further. He was not saying he objected to that, or that it was an unfair bargain; but he wanted to know what the bargain really was. He thought no one but the Prime Minister, who had told them that in such matters he was a perfect child, would say that there was no arrangement or understanding or proposal, made on one side and accepted on the other, between the Church and the Government as to the terms on which the voluntary schools were to be transferred to the rates. What justified the indignation expressed on that side of the House was not merely that there had been such an arrangement, but that, by those suddenly revealed new proposals, it was being departed from; and that denominational schools were now being put into a position which would enable them to receive contributions, not only from the rates, but also from rents and endowments and fees, and get everything they wanted without having to pay a single penny.

MR. MALCOLM () Suffolk, Stowmarket

said he thought that, in the interests of fair debate, the hon. Gentleman should either justify or withdraw his statement. He said that the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Oxford University was a party to a bargain. The right hon. Gentleman denied that, and it was also repudiated by right hon. Gentlemen on the Treasury Bench. He thought it was a most unfair observation.

*MR. CORRIE GRANT

said he did not desire to do anything unfair; but he felt that, when they appealed to their constituents, who would look at the issue from a clearer point of view, they would be able to bring home every. one of the charges they were now making. He admitted he made a mistake as to a name; but his assertion was that the main terms now contained in the Bill were the terms discussed and settled in Convocation, months before the Bill was produced.

DR. MACNAMARA

said that when, earlier in the debate, he referred to the expenditure for fuel, light, cleaning and repairs of two schools, an hon. Member opposite asked him if they charged any school fees. He was now able to answer the hon. Gentleman. In one school, school fees to the amount of £47 7s. 5d. were received, and in the other, £51 3s. 3d. Therefore, on the most generous estimate, the schools would have twice as much as they required for repairs.

(10.3.) Question put.

The Committee divided:—Ayes 182; Noes 85. (Division List No. 565.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Fergusson. Rt Hn SirJ. (Manc'r
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Chamberlain, RtHnJ. A(Wore.	Finch, George H.
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Charrington, Spencer	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Clive, Captain Perey A.	Firbank, sir Joseph Thomas
Arrol, Sir William	Cochrane, Hn. Thes. H. A. E.	Fisher, William Hayes
Atkinson, Rt Hon. John	Coddington, Sir William	Fison, Frederick William
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Flannery, Sir Fortescue
Baird, John George Alexander	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Flower, Ernest
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J.(Manch'r)	Compton, Lord Alwyne	Forster, Henry William
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Gardner, Ernest
Balfour, Rt. Hon. G. W. (Leeds)	Cranborne, Lord	Garfit, William
Balfour, KennethR.(Christch.)	Cripps, Charles Alfred	Godson, Sir AugustusFrederick
Banbury, Frederick George	Crossley, Sir Savile	Gore, HnG. R. COrmsby-(Salop)
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Gore, Hn. S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)
Bentinck, Lord Henry C.	Cust, Henry John C.	Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon
Beresford, Lord Chas, William	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim
Bigwood, James	Davenport, William Bromley-	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Denny, Colonel	Graham, Henry Robert
Bond, Edward	Dickson, Charles Scott	Greene, Sir EW(B'rySEdm'nds
Bascawen, Arthur Griffith-	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Greene, Henry D.(Shrewsbury)
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Greene, W. Raymound-(Cambs.)
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Groves, James Grimble
Brothercon, Edward Allen	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Bull, William James	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hamilton, RtHnLordG(Midd'x)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Duke, Henry Edward	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm.
Butcher, John George	Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir William Hart	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Campbell, RtHn. J. A (Glasgow)	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Harris, Frederick Leverton
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Faber, Elmund B. (Hants, W.)	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh.	Fellowes, Hon. AilwynEdward	Helder, Augustus
Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Morgan, DavidJ(Walth'mstow)	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Hogg, Lindsay	Morrell, George Herbert	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Hope, J. F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Morrison, James Archibald	Smith, HC(North'mb, Tyneside)
Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.)
Hozier, Hon. James HenryCecil	Mowbrav, Sir Robert Gray C.	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Murray, RtHnA. Graham(Bute)	Spear, John Ward
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Stanley, Edward Jas.(Somerset)
Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Ardhur Fred	Newdegate, Francis A. N.	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Stewart, Sir Mark J. M 'Taggart
Kemp, George	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Stock, James Henry
Kenyon-Slancy, Col. W. (Salop.	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Keswick, William	Peel, Hon. Wm. Robt. Wellesley	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Percy, Earl	Talbot, RtHn. J. G. (Oxf'd Univ.)
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Pierpoint, Robert	Thornton, Percy M.
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Lawson, John Grant	Plummer, Walter R.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Lecky, Rt. Hn. William Edw. H.	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Valentia, Viscount
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Pretyman, Ernest George	Vincent, Col. SirCEH(Sheffield)
Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward	Vincent, Sir Edgar(Exeter)
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Purvis, Robert	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir WilliamH.
Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham)	Pym, C. Guy	Wanklyn, James Leslie
Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S)	Randles, John S.	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Lowe, Francis William	Rankin, Sir James	Welby, Lt-Col A. C. E. (Taunton)
Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Rattigan, R. F.	Whitely, H(Ashton-und. Lyne)
Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)	Rattigan, Sir William Henry	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth)	Reid. James (Greenock)	Willoughby de Ersby, Lord
Lyttelton. Hon. Alfred	Remnant, James Farquharson	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Macartney, RtHn. W. G Ellison	Ritchie. Rt. Gn. Chas. Thomson	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks,)
Macdona, John Cummung	Roberts, Samuel (Shellield)	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath)
Maclver, David (Liverpool)	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Worsley-Taylor, Henry Wilson
Maconochie, A. W.	Robinson. Brooke	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.	Wylie, Alexander
Majendie, James A. H.	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Malcolm, lan	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong
Manners, Lord Cecil	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Younger, William
Maxwell, RtHnSir H E(Wigt'n)	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stoford-
Milner. Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick G.	Sadler. Col. Samuel Alexander	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Montagu. G. (Huntingdon)	Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)	Sir Alexander AclandHood and and Mr. Anstruther.
Montagu, Hon. J. Scott (Hants.)	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
NOES
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Dunn, Sir William	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Edwards, Frank	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Allen, Charles P. (Gloue, Stroud)	Ellis, John Edward	M'Kenna, Reginald
Atherley-Jones, L.	Emmott, Alfred	Markham, Arthur Basil
Barlow, John Emmott	Evans, Sir Francis H(Maidstone)	Middlemore, John Thr'gmorton
Bell, Richard	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Bignold, Arthur	Fenwick, Charles	Moulton, John Fletcher
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Newnes, Sir George
Brand, Hon. Arthur G.	Fuller, J. M. F.	Norman, Henry
Brigg, John	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Broadhurst, Henry	Grant, Corrie	Nussey, Thomas Willians
Brown, George M.(Edinburgh)	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Palmer, Sir CharlesM.(Durham)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Parkes, Ebenezer
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Hayne, Rt. Hoa. Charles Seale-	Partington, Oswald
Burns, John	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Pease, Herbert Pike(Darlingt'n)
Burt, Thomas	Helme, Norval Watson	Pease, J. A. (Saffrom Walden)
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Philipps, John Wynford
Caldwell, James	Holland, Sir William Henry	Price, Robert John
Cameron, Robert	Horniman, Frederick John	Priestley, Arthur
Campbell-Bannermam, Sir H.	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Reid, Sir R. Threshie(Dumfries)
Causton, Richard Knight	Lambert, George	Rickett, J. Compton
Cawley, Frederick	Lambton, Hon. Fredreick Wm.	Rigg, Richard
Chamming, Francis Allston	Langley, Batty	Roberts, John Bryn (Eilion)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Robertson, Edmund (Dundee)
Craig, Rober Hunter	Leese, SirJosephF. (Accrington)	Robson, William Snowdon
Cremer, William Randal	Leng, Sir John	Runciman, Walter
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Levy, Maurice	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Lewis, John Herbert	Sandys, Lt.-Col, Thos. Myles
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Lloyd-George, David	Schwann, Charles E.
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Logan, John William	Shackleton, David James
Duncan, J. Hastings	Lough, Thomas	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)

Shipman, Dr. John G.	Toulmin, Geoge	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	Trevelyan, Charles Philips	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid.)
Sloan, Thomas Henry	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)	Wilson, Henry J.(York, W. R.)
Spencer, Rt. HnC. R.(Northants)	Wason, Eugene	Woodhouse, Sir J T(Huddersf'd)
Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)	Weir, James Gallowy	Yoxall, James Henry
Tennant, Harold John	White, George(Norfolk)
Thomas, Abel(Carmarthen, E.)	White, Luke(York, E. R.)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)	Whiteley, George(York. W. R.)	Mr. Herbert Gladstone and Mr. William M'Arthur.
Thomas, F. W. (Yorks, W. R.)	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Fisher, William Hayes	Peel, Hn. Wm. Robert Wellesley
Allhusen Augustus Henry Eden	Fison, Frederick William	Percy, Earl
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Pierpoint, Robert
Arkwight, John Stanhope	Flower, Eruest	Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Arnold-Forste, Hugh O.	Forster, Henry William	Plummer, Walter R.
Arrol, Sir William	Gardner, Ernest	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Garfit, William	Pretyman, Ernest George
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Godson. Sir Augustus Frederick	Pryee-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Balcarres, Lord	Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)	Purvis, Robert
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r)	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Randles, John S.
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds)	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Ratcliff, R. F.
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Chrisch.)	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Reid, James (Greenock)
Banbury, Frederick George	Greene, SirE. W (B'ryS. Edm'nds)	Remnant, James Farquharson
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Ridley, Hon. M. W(Staly bridge
Bentinek, Lord Henry C.	Hamilton, RtHn Lord G(Midd'x)	Ritchie, Rt Hon. Chas. Thomson
Bignold, Arthur	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm.	Robertson, Herbert(Hackney)
Bigwood, James	Hardy, Laurence(Kent Ashford)	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Ropner, Col. Robert
Bond, Edward	Harris, Frederick Leverton	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Boseawen, Arthur Griffith-	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Bousfield, William Robert	Helder, Angustus	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Hogg, Lindsay	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Bull, William James	HopeJ. F. (Sheffield, Brightside)	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Butcher John Geroge	Houldsworth, SirWm. Henry	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Smith, Abel H. (Herford, East)
Carvill, Patrick Geo. Hamilton	Hudson, George Bickerstcth	Smith, H. C (North'mb. Tyneside
Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire)	Jebb, Sir Ricbard Claverhouse	Stanley, EdwardJas. (Somerset)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.	Stanly, Lord (Lames.)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Johnstone, Heywood	Stewart, SirMark J. M. Taggart
Chapman, Edward	Kenyon Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Stock, James Henry
Charrington, Spence	Kenyon Slaney, Col. W. (Salop.)	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Keswick, William	Stroyan, John
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Kimber, Henry	Strutt, Hon, Charles Hedley
Cohen, Benjamin Louis	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G(Oxf'd Univ.)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)	Tollemache, Henry James
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Cook. Sir Frederick Lucass	Lawson, John Grant	Tully, Jasper
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Valentia, Viscount
Cranborne, Viscount	Leigh-Bennert, Henry Currie	Vincent, SirEdgar (Exeter)
Cripps, Charles Alfred	Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S.	Wanklyn, James Leslie
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Crossley, Sir Savile	Long, Col. Charles W. (evesham	Welby. Lt-ColA. C. E. (Taunton
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S)	Whiteley, H. (Ashtonund Lyne)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Low, Francis William	Williams Colonel R. (Dorset)
Davenport, William Bromley-	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Denny, Colonel	Lucas, Col. Francis (Liwestift)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Dickson, Charles Scott	Lucas, Reginald J(Portsmouth)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Dickson, Pounder, Sir John P.	Macatney, Rt Hn. W. G. Ellison	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H.(Yorks.)
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Macdona, John Cumming	Wodehouse, RtHn. E. R. (Bath)
Disraeli. Coningsby Ralph	Maclver, David(Liverpool)	Worsley-Taylor, Henry Wilson
Doughty, Geroge	M'Killop, James(Strilingshire)	Wylie, Alexander
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A .Akers-	Majendie, James A. H.	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Maleolm, Ian	Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong
Dyke, Rt. Hon, Sir Wm. Hart	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)
Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Doughlas	Morrell, George Herbert	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Fieden, Edward Brocklehurst	Murray, Rt. Hn. A Grabam(Bute
Finch, George H.	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay

NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Allen, CharlesP.(Gloue.,Stroud)	Bell, Richard
Allan, Sir William(Gateshead)	Barran, Rowland Hirst	Bolton, Thomas Dolling

Brand, Hon. Arthur G.	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Brigg, John	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Robson, William Snowdon
Broadhurst, Henry	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Brown, George M.(Edinbugh)	Helme, Norval Watson	Shackleton, David James
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Holland, Sir William Henry	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Burns, John	Horniman, Frederick John	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Burt, Thomas	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Spear, John Ward
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Lambert, George	Spencer, Rt Hn C. R.(Northants)
Caldwell, James	Lambton. Hon. Frederick Wm.	Tennant, Harold John
Cameron, Robert	Langley, Batty	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr)
Causton, Richard Knight	Leng, Sir John	Thomson, F. W. (York. W. R.)
Cawley Frederick	Levy, Maurice	Trevelyan. Charles Philips
Channing, Francis Allston	Lewis, John Herbert	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Lloyd-George, David	Weir, James Galloway
Cremer, William Randal	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	White, George (Nolfolk)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	White, Luke (York. E. R)
Davies, M. Vanghan (Cardigan)	M'Kenna, Reginald	Whitley, J. H. (Halitax)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Markham, Arthur Basil	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Edwards, Frank	Morgan, J. Lloyd (Camarthen)	Wilson. Fred. W. (Nolfolk, Mid.)
Evans, Sir Francis H. Maidstone	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Yoxall, James Henry
Fenwick, Charles	Nussey, Thomas Willans
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Pemberton. John S. G.
Fuller, J. M. F.	Philips, John Wynford	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Gladstone Rt. Hn. HerbertJohn	Price, Robert John	Dr. Macnamara and Mr. Toulmin.
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Rigg, Richard

(10.14.) Question put, "That the Clause be added to the Bill."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 196; Noes, 88. (Division List No.566.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Finch, George H.
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Allhusen, Augustus Henry Eden	Chapman, Edward	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Charrington, Spencer	Fisher, William Hayes
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Fison, Frederick William
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Coghill, Douglas Harry	Flannery, Sir Fortescue
Arrol, Sir William Reynell	Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Flower, Ernest
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Forster, Henry William
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Compton, Lord Alwyne	Gardner, Ernest
Baird, John George Alexander	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Garfit, William
Balcarres, Lord	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Godson, Sir AugustusFrederick
Balfour, Rt Hon. A. J.(Manch'r)	Cranborne, Viscount	Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Line-)
Balfour, RtHn. Gerald W(Leeds)	Cripps, Charles Alfred	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Banbury, Frederick George	Crossley, Sir Savile	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Greene, SirEW(B'ry SEdm'nds)
Bentinck, Lord Henry C.	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)
Bignold, Arthur	Davenport, W. Bromley-	Hamilton, RtHnLordG(M'dd'x)
Bigwood, James	Denny, Colonel	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. RobertWm.
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Dickson, Charles Scott	Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd)
Bond, Edward	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Harris, Frederick Leverton
Bousfield, William Robert	Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Hatch, ErnestFrederickGeorge
Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex)	Doughty, George	Helder, Augnstus
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Henderson, Sir Alexander
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Higginbottom, S. W.
Bull, William James	Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Bullard, Sir Harry	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.)
Butcher, John George	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Hogg, Lindsay
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H.	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Hope, J. F.(Sheffield, Brightisde
Carvill, Patrick Geo. Hamilton	Fergusson, Rt Hn. SirJ.(Manc'r	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry
Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbysh're)	Fielden, Edward brocklehurst	Hozier, Hon. JamesHenry Cecil
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Morrison, James Archibald	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Stanley, EdwardJas.(Somerset)
Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.	Mowbray, Sir Robert Grav C.	Stanley, Lord (Lances.)
Johnstone, Heywood	Murray, Rt. HnAGraham(Bute)	Stewart, SirMarkJ. M'Taggart
Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Murrary, Charles J. (Coventry)	Stock, James Henry
Kanyon-Slaney, Col. W.(Salop.)	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Keswick, William	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Stroyan, John
Kimber, Henry	Peel, HnWm. RobertWelle-ley	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Percy, Earl	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Knowles, Lees	Pierpoint, Robert	Talbot, RtHn. J. G.(Oxf'dUniv.)
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Tollemache, Henry James
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Plummer, Walter R.	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Lawson, John Grant	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Valentia, Viscount
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Pretyman, Ernest George	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Leveson-Gower, FrederickN. S.	Purvis, Robert	Welby, Lt.-Col. A C E (Taunton)
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Randles, John S.	Whiteley, H(Ashton-und. Lyne)
Long, Col. Chas. W. (Evesham)	Ratcliff, R. F.	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.)	Reid, James (Greenock)	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Lowe, Francis William	Remnant, James Farquharson	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Loyd, Arche Kirkman	Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Lucas, ReginaldJ.(Portsmouth)	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R.(Bath)
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.	Worsley-Taylor, Henry Wilson
Macartney, Rt. Hn. W. G. Ellison	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Wylie, Alexander
Macdona, John Cumming	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Maclver, David (Liverpool)	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong
M'Killop, James(Stirlingshire)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Younger, William
Majendie, James A. H.	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Malcolm, Ian	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)	Skewes-Cox, Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Smith, Abel H.(Herford, East)	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Morgan, DavidJ(Walthamst'w)	Smith, H. C.(North'mb. Tyneside
Morrell, George Herbert	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)
NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Fuller, J. M. F.	Robson, William Snowdon
Allen, CharlesP(Glouc.,Stroud)	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Runciman, Walter
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland)
Bell, Richard	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Shackleton, David James
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Brand, Hon. Arthur G.	Helme, Norval Watson	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Brigg, John	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Broadhurst, Henry	Holland, Sir William Henry	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R(Northants)
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Horniman, Frederick John	Strachery, Sir Edward
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Tennant, Harold John
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Lambert, George	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Burns, John	Langley, Batty	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Burt, Thomas	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Leng, Sir John	Toulmin, George
Caldwell, James	Levy, Maurice	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Cameron, Robert	Lewis, John Herbert	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Lloyd-George, David	Weir, James Galloway
Causton, Richard Knight	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	White, George (Norfolk)
Cawley, Frederick	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Channing, Francis Allston	M'Kenna, Reginald	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Cremer, William Randal	Middlemore, John throgmort'n	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Mildmay, Francis Bingham	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfold, Mid.)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Morgan, J. Lloyd(Carmarthen)	Wilson, HenryJ.(York, W. R.)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Yoxall, James Henry
Duncan, J. Hastings	Nussey, Thomas Willians
Edwards, Frank	Pease, HerbertPike(Darlingt'n)
Evans, SirFrancisH(Maidstone)	Philipps, John Wynford	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Price, Robert John	Mr. HebertGladstone and Mr. William M'Arthur.
Fenwick, Charles	Rigg, Richard

Question put, and agreed to.

*SIR WILLIAM ANSON

said that the Clause which he now moved related to a class of school which ought not to be ignored or left out of the Bill; but which on the other hand ought not to be thrown on the local authority unless the local authority were prepared to adopt them. Some were marine schools, five in number, which had been taken over for the children of parents connected with the Admiralty in various ways, and which had hitherto received the Parliamentary grant. The other classes of schools were orphanages and institutions, in which in certain large towns waifs and strays were collected together in one building, and were looked after by charitable persons. These schools had for many years received a Parliamentary grant; they were useful for charitable purposes, and it was proposed that while they fulfilled the condition of public elementary schools they should continue to receive the Parliamentary grant, unless they were taken over by the local authority. It was not fair, however, to the local authority that children should be collected from various parts of the United Kingdom, and thrown on the rates of a particular local area. Therefore, the Clause proposed that these schools should be recognised as proper recipients of a Parliamentary grant, and that the local authority should have the option of taking them over, if they so pleased. He did not think that there was any ecclesiastical purpose lurking in the Clause. and he hoped the Committee would agree to it.

New Clause— The local education authority may maintain under the provisions of this Act, but shall not be required so to maintain, any marine school, or any school which is part of, or is held in the premises of, any institution in which children are boarded, but their refusal to maintain such a school shall not render the school incapable of receiving the Parliamentary grant, nor shall the school, if not so maintained, be subject to the provisions of this Act as to the appointment of managers."—(Sir William Anson.) Brought up and read the first time.

Question proposed, "That the Clause be read a second time."

*SIR CHARLES DILKE () Gloucestershire, Forest of Dean

said they on that side objected to the intrusion of these very delicate subjects in the form of new Clauses at the last moment. If these subjects were deserving of special attention they ought to have been dealt with at an earlier period, so that the Committee might have an opportunity of judging as to their real bearing. He noticed an interesting speech by the Bishop of St. Asaph, in which, alluding to the present group of new Clauses, he said that even yet they might hope to have important Amendments, as there was "an institution known as the House of Lords for putting in Amendments at the last moment; and it might be possible to get a friendly line inserted here and there." As far as he had time to look into the Clause the observations he would make about it wore, that as far as the marine schools were concerned, there were several Departments of the State concerned in their management, and they were under special and exceptional legislation, so that this Clause was not needed in their behoof. As to the other schools, the overwhelming majority were schools which had only been held to be public elementary schools within the last two or three years. There was nothing of a public elementary school character about them, and they were not schools which any ordinary man would believe were public elementary schools uniess he was assured they were. The whole theory of a public elementary school was that it should be available to the public in its neighbourhood. Some of the schools referred to in the Clause were in theory open to the public, but in practice they were not. They were not always full, and the vacant places were not filled by children in the locality. People were not aware that they were public elementary schools; and in one or two cases where a claim for admission was made it was received with horror. Some of them had enormous endowment, such as the school of the Royal Hospital at Greenwich. which was endowed to the extent of nearly £7,000 a year. Some were semi-industrial schools. with laundries attached, from which large profits were made. Among the schools which would come under the Clause were the St. Joseph's Home at Sheffield, Princess Louise's Home at Kingston, the School of Handicrafts at Chertsey, the School of the Sacred Heart at Roehampton, the School of the Beneveolent Society of St. Patrick, the Royal Victoria Patriotic Asylum, and a boarding school at Ealing. All these were schools which any man would not assume to be public elementary schools; and if they were to receive grants from the State, they ought to be under local control. They ought not to be withdrawn from the knowledge of the local education authority, which would not interfere with them unduly, where they were properly carried on.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

said the speech of the right hon. Gentleman appeared to be strongly in favour of the Clause. He could assure him that the Clause had been introduced for no other reason than to protect the local authority. The right hon. Gentleman said, truly enough, that no one in the districts in which they were supposed that they were public elementary schools. They had not the ordinary characteristics of a public elementary school, and their nearest neighbours were not aware that they came under the legal definition of a public elementary school. The Government thought it was extremely hard to saddle the local education authority with the necessity of maintaining those schools. If they wished to do so, well and good; but if they did not desire to do so, why should the burden be thrown upon the local education authority of maintaining children who were gathered from outside their area? If the children were drawn entirely from within the area, there would be no particular hardship in requiring the local authority to maintain the schools; but he thought it would be hard to impose a burden on the rates of any particular county in respect of children drawn from various counties. The complaint was made that the Government had not included the Clause originally in the Bill. The number of such schools was not very large, and their case had not been brought under the notice of the Government until late in the discussions, when they framed the Clause solely in the interest of the local education authority. It did not affect the framework of the Bill in the least. If the Committee chose to throw upon the local education authority the additional burden of maintaining schools in which children were gathered from outside districts, it would not touch sectarian interests in which any one was concerned; but in the view of the Government it would inflict a grave injustice on the local education authority, and for that reason he hoped the Committee would add the Clause to the Bill.

MR. TENNANT () Berwickshire

said he thought it was to be regretted that the Committee did not know earlier what was the intention of the Government in regard to these institutions. He quite sympathised with the reason given by the right hon. Gentleman, but, at the same time, they could not help commiserating with themselves, as if they had had notice, they might have been able to lay arguments and facts on the subject before the Committee. The right hon. Gentleman said it was the desire of the Government to protect the local authority; but who would protect the poor children in these institutions? He should like to know whether these schools were public elementary schools or not. If they were, why should they be given differential treatment? The point he felt most keenly was that all these religious institutions were given differential treatment from other cases. That seemed to be the settled policy of he Government, and he regarded it as most unfortunate that such a provision should have found its way into the Bill without the Committee having full opportunity of considering it.

*SIR WILLIAM ANSON

said the schools were public elementary schools. They had a Conscience Clause, and the schools were subject to Government inspection. The real reason why the Clause had been framed was, as the Prime Minister had stated, that the children in the schools were brought together from outside districts, and that it would be unfair to throw the burden of supporting these schools on the local education authority without giving them an option in the matter. There was really nothing behind the Clause.

MR. ALFRED HUTTON

said that the management of those schools was often of a most slip-shod character. Many of them also were actually making very considerable profits by means of the Parliamentary grant, as the cost of carrying on charity schools was much less than in the case of ordinary schools, and he thought these were reasons why there should be some representative of the public to see that the money was used for the purpose for which it was granted.

*SIR CHARLES DILKE

said it was undoubtedly the cases that the accounts of some of these schools showed that enormous profits were being made out of the labour in the laundries of the children supposed to be attending these public elementary schools. He thought it was a mistake that many of these schools should be treated as public elementary schools at all. Just as the Code prevented such schools being so treated when conducted for private profit, so it might be worded to prevent many of these schools being held to be public elementary schools, and then they would not come on the funds of the local authority, but that they could satisfactorily be dealt with outside the scope of this Bill he entirely denied, and he complained that the Committee had not had proper time to consider the matter with a view to introducing Amendments to protect the public interest. He further asked whether the words "Parliamentary grant" were carefully defined, so as to show that it was the old grant, and not the grant as it would be under the Bill.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

said it was the existing Parliamentary grant.

Clause read a second time.

MR. HERBERT LEWIS

moved to insert after the word "maintain" in the first line of the Clause the words "as a public elementary school." He said the object was to make it clear that the Clause should not apply to secondary boarding schools.

Amendment proposed— In line I, after 'maintain' insert 'as a public elementary school.'"—(Mr. Herbert Lewis.)

Amendment agreed to.

(10.56.) Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, be added to the Bill."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 228; Noes, 99. (Division List No. 567.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Allhusen, Augustus H'nry Eden	Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Johnstone, Heywood
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Dormgton, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Doughty, George	Keswick, William
Arrol, Sir William	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Kimber, Henry
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Knowles, Lees
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Dyke, Rt Hon. Sir William Hart	Lambton, Hon. Frederick W m.
Baird, John George Alexander	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)
Balcarres, Lord	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Lawrence, William F(Liverpool)
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r)	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Lawson, John Grant
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Balfour, Rt. HnGerald W(Leeds)	Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r)	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S.
Banbury, Frederick George	Finch, George H.	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Long, Col. Charles W. (Eve-ham)
Bignold, Arthur	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.)
Bigwood, James	Fisher, William Hayes	Lowe, Francis William
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Fison, Frederick William	Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale)
Bond, Edward	Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Forster, Henry William	Lucas, Col. Francis(Lowestoft)
Bousfield, William Robert	Gardner, Ernest	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth)
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Garfit, William	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H(City of Lond.)	Macdona, John Cumming
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Maclver, David(Liverpool)
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Maconochie, A. W.
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.)	Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Linc.)	M 'Arthur, Charles(Liverpool)
Bull, William James	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Malcolm, Ian
Bullard, Sir Harry	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Middlemore, John Throgmort'n
Butcher, John George	Gray, Ernest(West Ham)	Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Greene, Sir E W(B'ry S. Edm'nds)	Milner, Rt Hon. Sir Frederick G.
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire)	Greene, W. Raymond-(cambs.)	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Groves, James Grimble	Montagu, Hon. J. Scott(Hants.)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Chamberlain, Rt Hon JA (Worc,)	Guthrie, Walter Murray	More, Robt. Jesper(Shropshire)
Chapman, Edward	Hamilton, RtHn LordG (Midd'x)	Morgan, David J(Walthamst'w)
Charrington, Spencer	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm.	Morrell, George Herbert
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd)	Morrison, James Archibald
Cochrane. Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Hare. Thomas Leigh	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Harris, Frederick Leverton	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Murray, RtHn A. Graham(Bute)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Helder, Augustus	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Henderson, Sir Alexander	Newdegate, Francis A. N.
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Higgm bottom, S. W.	Palmer, Walter(Salisbury)
Cranborne, Viscount	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Parker, Sir Gilbert
Cripps, Charles Alfred	Hobhouse, Henry (Someset, E.)	Parkes, Ebenezer
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Hogg, Lindsay	Pease, Herbert Pike(Darlingt'n)
Crossley, Sir Savile	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside)	Peel, Hn Wm. Robert Wellesley
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Horner, Frederick William	Pemberton, John S. G.
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry	Percy, Earl
Davenport, William Bromley-	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Pierpoint, Robert
Denny, Colonel	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Dickson, Charles Scott	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Plummer, Walter R.
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Sharpe, William Edward T.	Vincent, Col Sir C. E. H. (Sheffi'ld)
Pretyman, Ernest George	Sinclair, Louis(Romford)	Vincent, Sir Edgar(Exeter)
Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward	Skewes-Cox, Thomas	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Purvis, Robert	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)	Welby, Lt-Col. A. C. E(Taunton)
Randles, John S.	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside)	Whiteley, H(Ashton-und Lyne)
Rankin, Sir James	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Ratcliff, R. F.	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Reid, James(Greenock)	Spear, John Ward	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Remnant, James Farquharson	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Staly bridge)	Stanley, Lord(Lancs.)	Wilson, John(Glasgow)
Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Stewart, Sir Mark J. M 'Taggart	Wilson-Todd, W m. H. (Yorks.)
Roberts, Samuel(Sheffield)	Stock, James Henry	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath
Robertson, Herbert(Hackney)	Stone, Sir Benjamin	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Rolleston, Sir John F. L.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley	Wylie, Alexander
Ropner, Colonel Robert	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Round, Rt. Hon. James	Talbot, RtHn. J. G. (Oxf'd Univ.	Younger, William
Royds, Clement Molyneux	Thornton, Percy M.
Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Tollemache, Henry James
Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Tomlinson, Sir W m. Edw. M.	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Tully, Jasper
Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)	Valentia, Viscount
NOES.
Abraham, William(Rhondda)	Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert John	Rigg, Richard
Allan, Sir William(Gateshead)	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Roberts, John Bryn(Eifion)
Allen, Charles P. (Gloue. Stroud)	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Robson, William Snowdon
Atherley-Jones, L.	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Runciman, Walter
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Bell, Richard	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Schwann, Charles E.
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Helme, Norval Watson	Shackleton, David James
Brand, Hon. Arthur G.	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Brigg, John	Holland, Sir William Henry	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Broadhurst, Henry	Horniman, Frederick John	Sinclair, John(Forfarshire)
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Lambert, George	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Langley, Batty	Spencer, RtHn. C. R(Northants)
Bryce, Rt. Hon, James	Layland, Barratt, Francis	Stevenson, Francis S.
Burns, John	Leng, Sir John	Tenannt, Harold John
Burt, Thomas	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Abel(Carmarthen, E.)
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Caldwell, James	Lloyd-George, David	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Cameron, Robert	Lough, Thomas	Toulmin, Gorge
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Macartney, RtHn. W. G. Ellison	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Causton, Richard Knight	M'Arthur, William(Cornwall)	Walton, Joseph(Barusley)
Cawley, Frederick	M'Kenna, Reginald	Weir, James Galloway
Channing, Francis Allston	M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin	White, George(Norfolk)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	White, Luke(York, E. R.)
Cremer, William Randal	Morgan, J. Lloyd(Carmarthen)	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Davies, Alfred(Carmarthen)	Moulton, John Fletcher	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Newnes, Sir George	Whittaker, Thomas Plamer
Dewar, John A. (Iverness-sh.)	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Edwards, Frank	Paruington, Oswald	Yoxall, James Henry
Ellis, John Edward	Paulton, James Mellor
Emmott, Alfred	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Evans, Sir Francis H(Maidstone)	Philipps, John Wynford	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Sir Charles Dilke and Mr. Alfred Hutton.
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Price, Robert John
Fenwick, Charles	Priestley, Arthur
Fuller, J. M. F.	Rickett, J. Compton

It being after Eleven of the Clock, the Chairman, in Pursuance of the Order of the House of the 11th instant, proceeded to put forthwith the Questions on another Government New Clause, on

Schedules and Government New Schedules, and on other proceedings necessary to bring the Committee Stage to a conclusion.

New Clause(Application of Act to Scilly Islands)—(Sir William Anson)—added to the Bill.

Schedules 1 and 3 disagreed to.

Schedule 4 amended.

(11.13.) Question put, "That this Schedule, as amended, be the Fourth Schedule to the Bill."

The Committee divided:—Ayes 230; Noes, 95. (Division List No. 568.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Denny, Colonel	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Dickson, Charles Scott	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil
Allhusen, Augustns H'nry Eden	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Hudson, George Bickersteth
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Jeffreys, Rt. Hn. Arthur Fred.
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton
Arrol, Sir William	Doughty, George	Johnstone, Heywood
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop)
Bailey, James(Walworth)	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Keswick, William
Baird, John George Alexander	Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir William Hart	Kimber, Henry
Balcarres, Lord	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r)	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Knowles, Lees
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds)	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Fergusson, Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r)	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Banbury, Frederick George	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Lawson, John Grant
Bathurst, Hn. Allen Benjamin	Finch, George H.	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Beresford, Lord Chas. William	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Bignold, Arthur	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S.
Bigwood, James	Fisher, William Hayes	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Fison, Frederick William	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham)
Bond, Edward	Flaunery, Sir Fortescue	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.)
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Forster, Henry William	Lowe, Francis William
Bousfield, William Robert	Gardner, Ernest	Lowther, C. (Cumb,. Eskdale)
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Garfit, William	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (City of Lond)	Lucas, Col. Francis(Lowestoft)
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth.)
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.)	Gore, Hn G. R. C. Ormsby-(Salop)	Macartney, RtHn. W. G. Ellison
Bull, William James	Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)	Macdona, John Cumming
Butcher, John George	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	MacIver, David(Liverpool)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Maconochie, A. W.
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire)	Graham, Henry Robert	M'Arthur, Charles(Liverpool)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Gray, Ernest(West Ham)	Majendie, James A. H.
Cecil, Lord Hugh(Greenwich)	Greene, Sir EW(B'ry S Edm'nds)	Manners, Lord Cecil
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J. A. (Worc)	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Chapman, Edward	Groves, James Grimble	Milner, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick G.
Charrington, Spencer	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Montagu, Hon. J. Scott(Hants.)
Cochrane, Hon. Thomas H. A. E.	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G(Midd'x)	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert W m.	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)
Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashford)	Morgan, David J(Walthamst'w)
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Morrell, George Herbert
Colston, Charles Edw. H. Athole	Harris, Frederick Leverton	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Helder, Augustus	Murray, Rt. Hn A. Graham(Bute)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Henderson, Sir Alexander	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Cranborne, Viscount	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Newdegate, Francis A. N.
Cripps, Charles Alfred	Higginbottom, S. W.	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Palmer, Walter(Salisbury)
Crossley, Sir Savile	Hobhouse, Henry(Somerset, E.)	Parker, Sir Gilbert
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hogg, Lindsay	Pease, Herbert Pike(Darlingt'n)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside)	Peel, Hn Wm. Robert Wellesley
Davenport, William Bromley-	Horner, Frederick William	Pemberton, John S. G.
Percy, Earl	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Tully, Jasper
Pierpoint, Robert	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)	Valentia, Viscount
platt-Higgins, Frederick	Sinclair, Louis(Romford)	Vincent, Col Sir C. E. H(Sheffield)
Plummer, Walter R.	Skewes-Cox, Thomas	Vincent, Sir Edgar(Exeter)
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Pretyman, Ernest George	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside)	Welby, Lt.-Col. A. C. E(Taunton)
Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)	Whiteley, H.(Ashton-und-Lyne)
Purvis, Robert	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Randles, John S.	Spear, John Ward	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Rankin, Sir James	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset)	Willoughy de Eresby, Lord
Ratcliff, R. F.	Stanley, Lord(Lancs.)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Reid, James(Greenock)	Stewart, Sir Mark J. M 'Taggart	Wilson, John(Glasgow)
Remnant, James Farquharson	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Ridley, Hon. M. W(Staly bridge)	Stock, James Henry	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath)
Ritchie, Rt. Hon Chas. Thomson	Stone, Sir Benjamin	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Roberts, Samuel(Sheffield)	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)	Wylie, Alexander
Rolleston, Sir John F. L.	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G. (Ox. Univ.)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Ropner, Colonel Robert	Taylor, Austin(East Toxteth)	Younger, William
Round, Rt. Hon. James	Thornton, Percy M.
Royds, Clement Molyneux	Tollemache, Henry James	TELLERS FOR THE AYES— Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
NOES.
Abraham, William(Rhondda)	Fuller, J. M. F.	Roberts, John Bryn(Eifion)
Allen, Charles, P. (Gloue., Stroud)	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Robson, William Snowdon
Atherley-Jones, L.	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Runciman, Walter
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Bell, Richard	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Scale-	Schwann, Charles E.
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Shackleton, David James
Brand. Hon. Arthur G.	Helme, Norval Watson	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Brigg, John	Holland, Sir William Henry	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Broadhurst, Henry	Horniman, Frederick John	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Lambert, George	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C R(Northants)
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Langley, Batty	Stevenson, Francis S.
Burt, Thomas	Layland-Barratt, Farncis	Strachey, Sir Edward
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Leng, Sir John	Tennant, Harold John
Caldwell, James	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Abel(Carmarthen, E.)
Cameron, Robert	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Lough, Thomas	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Causton, Richard Knight	M'Kenna, Reginald	Toulmin, George
Channing, Francis Allston	M 'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin	Walton, Joseph(Barnsley)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Weir, James Galloway
Cremer, William Randal	Morgan, J. Lloyd(Carmarthen)	Whit, George(Norfolk)
Dalziel, James Henry	Moulton, John Fletcher	White, Luke(York, E. R.)
Davies, Alfred(Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Whitley, J. H.(Halifax)
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Partington, Oswald	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid.)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Paulton, James Mellor	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Edwards, Frank	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Woodhouse, Sir J. T(Huddersf'd)
Ellis, John Edward	Philipps, John Wynford	Yoxall, James Henry
Emmott, Alfred	Price, Robert John
Evans, Sir FrancisH(Maidstone)	Priestley, Arthur	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Herbert Gladstone and Mr. Wm. M'Arthur.
Evans, Samuel T.(Glamorgan)	Rickett, J. Compton
Fenwick, Charles	Rigg, Richard

New Schedule (Provision as to Education Committees and Managers.)—(Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 225; Noes, 93. (Division List No. 569.)

(11.26.) Question put, "That this Schedule be added to the Bill as the First Schedule."

The Committee divided:— Ayes, 225; Nocs, 93. (Division List No. 569.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Fisher, William Hayes	Montagu, Hon. J. Scott (Hants.)
Allhusen, AugustusH'nry Eden	Fison, Fredrick William	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Flannery, Sir Fortescue	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Forster, Henry William	Morgan, David J.(W'lthamst'w)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Gardner, Ernest	Morrell, George Herbert
Arrol, Sir William	Garfit, William	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Gibbs, Hon. H A G(City of Lond.)	Murray, RtHn A. Graham(Bute)
Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	Murray, Charles J. (Conventry)
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Newdegate, Francis A. N.
Baird, John George Alexander	Gore, HnG. R. COrmsby-(Salop)	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Balcarres, Lord	Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J.(Manch'r)	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Parker, Sir Gilbert
Balfour, Capt. C. B.(Hornsey)	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlingt'n)
Balfour, RtHnGeraldW.(Leeds)	Graham, Henry Robert	Peel, Hn. Wm. Robert Wellesley
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Pemberton, John S. G.
Banbury, Fredrick George	Greene, Sir EW(B'ryS Edm'nds)	Percy, Earl
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Pierpoint, Robert
Beresford, Ld. Charles William	Grenfell, William Henry	Platt-Higgins, Fredrick
Bignold, Arthur	Groves, James Grimble	Plummer, Walter R.
Bigwood, James	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Githrie, Walter Murray	Pretyman, Ernest George
Bond, Edward	Hamilton, RtHnLordG(Midd'x)	Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Hanbury, Rt. Hon. RobertWm.	Purvis, Robert
Bousfield, William Robert	Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd)	Randles, John S.
Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex)	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Rankin, Sir James
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Harris, Frederick Leverton	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Ratcliff, R. F.
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Henderson, Sir Alexander	Reid, James (Greenock)
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.)	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Remnant, James Farquharson
Bull, William James	Higginbottom, S. W.	Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Ritchie, Rt. Hon. Chas Thomson
Butcher, John George	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E)	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Hogg, Lindsay	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire)	Hope, J. F.(Sheffield Brightside)	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Cecil, Evelyln (Aston Manor)	Horner, Frederick William	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Chamberlain, Rt. HonJA(Wore.)	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Chapman, Edward	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Charrington, Spencer	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Johnstone, Heywood	Sinclair Louis (Romford)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Kemp, George	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Kenyon, Hon. GeoT.(Denbigh)	Smith, Abel H.(Hertford, East)
Cook, Sir Fredrick Lucas	Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W.(Salop.)	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside)
Cranborne, Viscount	Keswick, William	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)
Cripps, Charles Alfred	Kimber, Henry	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Stand)
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Spear, John Ward
Crossley, Sir Savile	Knowles, Lees	Stanley, Edward Jas.(Somerset)
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Lambton, Hon. Fredrick Wm.	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Stewart, Sir Mark J. M 'Taggart
Davenport, W. Bromley-	Lawson, John Grant	Stock, James Henry
Denny, Colonel	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Dickson, Charles Scott	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Leveson-Gower, Fredrick N. S.	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Talbot, Rt. HnJ. G.(Oxf'd Univ.)
Dixon-HartlandSirFredDixon	Long, Col. Chas. W.(Evesham)	Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.)	Thornton, Percy M.
Doughty, George	Lowe, Francis William	Tollemache, Henry James
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Lowther, C. Cumb. (Eskdale)	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)	Valentia, Viscount
Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart	Lucas, ReginaldJ.(Portsmouth)	Vincent, Col. SirCEH(Sheffield)
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Macartney, RtHn. W. G Ellison	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Macdona, John Cumming	Welby, Lt. ColA. C. E(Taunton)
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Maclver, David (Liverpool)	Whiteley, H(Ashton-und. Lyne)
Fergusson, Rt. Hn. SirJ.(Manc'r)	Maconochie, A. W.	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Manners, Lord Cecil	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Finch, George H.	Mildmay, Francis Bingham	Willoughby de Fresby, Lord
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Milner, RtHon. Sir FrederickG.	Willox, Sir John Archibald

Wilson, John (Glasgow)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks)	Wylie, Alexander
Wodehouse, Rt. Hn, E. R. (Bath)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-	Younger, William

NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Rigg, Richard
Allen, Chas. P.(Gloue., Stroud)	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Robson, William Snowdon
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Bell, Richard	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Schwann, Charles E.
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Helme, Norval Watson	Shackleton, David James
Brigg, John	Holland, Sir William Henry	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Broadhurst, Henry	Horniman, Frederick John	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Brown,!George M. (Edinburgh)	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Lambert, George	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Langley, Batty	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R(Northants)
Burt, Thomas	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Stevenson, Francis S.
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Leng, Sir John	Tennant, Harold John
Caldwell, James	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Cameron, Robert	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Lough, Thomas	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Causton, Richard Knight	M'Kenna, Reginald	Toulmin, George
Channing, Francis Allston	M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin	Walton, Joseph Barnsley
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Weir, James Galloway
Cremer, William Randal	Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)	White, George (Norfolk)
Dalziel, James Henry	Moulton, John Fletcher	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Norman, Henry	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Duncan, J. Hastings	Nussey, Thomas Willians	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk. Mid.)
Edwards, Frank	Partington, Oswald	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Ellis, John Edward	Paulton, James Mellor	Woodhouse, SirJ. T (Huss'rsf'd
Emmott, Alfred	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Yoxall, JAmes Henry
Evans, Sir FrancisH(Maidstone)	Philipps, John Wynford
Evens, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Price, Robert John	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. Herbert Gladstoneand Mr. William M'Arthur
Fenwick, Charles	Priestley, Arthur
Fuller, J. M. F.	Rickett, J. Compton

New Schedule (Provisions as to Transfer of Property and Officers, and Adjustment).—(Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 217; Noes, 90. (Division List No. 570.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Bousfield, William Robert
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Balfour, RtHn. GeraldW(Leeds)	Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)
Allhusen, Augustus Henry Eden	Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch)	Brodrick, Rt, Hon. St. John
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Banbury, Frederick George	Borrkfield, Colonel Montagu
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Brotherton, Edward Allen
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Beresford, LordCharles William	Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh)
Arrol, Sir William	Bignold, Arthur	Bull, William James
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Bigwood, James	Bullard, Sir Harry
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Blundell, Colonel Henry	Burcher, John George
Baird, John George Alexander	Boud, Edward	Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.
Balcarres, Lord	Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire)

(11.38.) Question put, "That this Schedule be added to the Bill as the Second Schedule."

New Schedule (Modification of Acts).—(Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 214; Noes, 88. (Division List No. 571.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Bousfield, William Robert
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Balfour, RtHn. GeraldW(Leeds)	Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)
Allhusen, Augustus Henry Eden	Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch)	Brodrick, Rt, Hon. St. John
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Banbury, Frederick George	Borrkfield, Colonel Montagu
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Brotherton, Edward Allen
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Beresford, LordCharles William	Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh)
Arrol, Sir William	Bignold, Arthur	Bull, William James
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Bigwood, James	Bullard, Sir Harry
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Blundell, Colonel Henry	Burcher, John George
Baird, John George Alexander	Boud, Edward	Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.
Balcarres, Lord	Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Henderson, Sir Alexander	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Pretyman, Ernest George
Chamberlain, RtHnJ. A(Wore)	Higginbottom, S. W.	Pryce-Jones, Lt-Col. Edward
Chapman, Edward	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Purvis, Robert
Charrington, Spencer	Hobhouse, Henry(Somerset, E.	Randles, John S.
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Hogg, Lindasy	Rankin, Sir James
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Hope, J. F (Sheffield, Brightside	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry	Ratcliff, R. F.
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Hozier. Hon. James Henry Cecil	Reid, James (Greenock)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Remnant, James Farquharson
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Ridley, Hon. M. W.(Stalybridge)
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Cranborne, Viscount	Jessel, CaptainHerbert Merton	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Cripps, Charles Alfred	Johnstone, Heywood	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Crossley, Sir Savile	Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop)	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Keswick, William	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Kimber, Henry	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Davenport, William Bromley-	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Denny, Colonel	Knowles, Lees	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Dickson, Charles Scott	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Dimsadale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Dixon-Hartland, SirFredDixon	Lawson, John Grant	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Legge, Col. Hon. Hencage	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Doughty, George	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside
Doughlas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Leveson-Gower, FrederickN. S.	Smith, JamesParker(Lanarks.)
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Long, Col. CharlesW. (Evesham)	Spear, John Ward
Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir William Hart	Long, RtHonWalter(Bristol, S.)	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset)
Egerton, Hon. A de Tatton	Lowe, Francis William	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Stewart, Sir Mark J. M'Taggart
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Stock, James Henry
Fergusson, RtHonSir J(Manc'r)	Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth)	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Finch, George H.	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Talbot Lord E. (Chichester)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Macartney, RtHn W. G. Ellison	Talbot, RtHn. J. G.(Oxf'dUniv.)
Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Macdona, John Cumming	Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Fisher, William Hayes	Maclver, David (Liverpool)	Thornton, Percy M.
Fison, Frederick William	Maconochie, A. W.	Tomlison, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Majendie, James A. H.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Forster, Henry William	Manners, Lord Cecil	Tully, Jasper
Gardner, Ernest	Mildmay, Francis Bingham	Valentia, Viscount
Garfit, William	Milner, Rt. Hn. Sir FrederickG.	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Gibbs, Hn. H. A. G(City ofLond.)	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Montagu, Hon. J. Scott(Hants.)	Welby, Lt.-ColA. C. E(Taunton)
Godson, SirAugustusFrederick	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Whiteley, H.(Asht'n-und. Lyne)
Gore, HnG. R. Cormsby-(Salop)	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Linc.)	Morgan, DavidJ.(Walthamstow)	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Morrell, George Herbert	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Graham, Henry Robert	Murray, RtHnA. Graham(Bute)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R.(Bath)
Greene, Sir. EW(B'rySEdm'nds)	Newdegate, Francis A. N.	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B Stuart-
Grenfell, William Henry	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Groves, James Grimble	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchil	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Younger, William
Cuthrie, Walter Murray	Pease, HerbertPike(Darlinton)
Hamilton, RtHnLordG(Midd'x)	Peel, Hn. Wm. Robt. Wellesley
Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm.	Pemberton, John S. G.	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd	Percy, Earl	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Hare, Thomas Leigh	Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Harris, Frederick Leverton	Plummer, Walter R.
NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Bryce, Rt. Hon. James
Allen, CharlesP. (Glouc.,Stroud	Brigg, John	Burt, Thomas
Atherley-Jones, L.	Broadhurst, Henry	Caldwell, James
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.
Bell, Richard	Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Causton, Richard Knight

Channing, Francis Allston	Levy, Maurice	Shipman, Dr, John G.
Craig, Robert Hunter	Lewis, John Herbert	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Cremer, William Randal	Lough, Thomas	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Dalziel, James Henry	M'Kenna, Reginald	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R(Northants)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	M'Laren, SirCharles Benjamin	Stevenson, Francis S.
Davies, M. Vanghan-(Cardigan)	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tennant, Harold John
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)	Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Moulton, John Fletcher	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Newnes, Sir George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Edwards, Frank	Norman, Henry	Toulmin, George
Ellis, John Edward	Norton, Capt, Cecil William	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Evans, SirFrancisH(Maidstone)	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Weir, James Galloway
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Partington, Oswald	White, George (Norfolk)
Fenwick, Charles	Paulton, James Mellor	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Fuller, J. M. F.	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Philipps, John Wynford	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.)
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Rigg, Richard	Woodhouse, SirJ. T(Huddersf'd)
Helme, Norval Watson	Roberts, John Bryn (Eilion)	Yoxall, James Henry
Holland, Sir William Henry	Robson, William Snowdon
Horniman, Frederick John	Runciman, Walter
Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Lambert, George	Schwann, Charles E.	Mr. Herbert Gladstone and Mr. William M'Arthur.
Layland-Barratt, Francis	Shackletcn, David James
Leng, Sir John	Shaw, Charles Edw.(Stafford)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Cubitt, Hon. Henry
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Dalrymple, Sir Charles
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Brotherton, Edward Allen	Davenport, W. Bromley-
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.)	Denny, Colonel
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Bull, William James	Dickson, Charles Scott
Arrol, Sir William	Bullard, Sir Harry	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Butcher, John George	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire)	Dixon-Hartland, SirFredDixon
Baird, John George Alexander	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.
Balcarres, Lord	Cecil, Lord Hugh (Green wich)	Donghty, George
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J. A(Wore)	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-
Balfour, RtHnGeraldW.(Leeds)	Chapman, Edward	Doxford, Sir William Theodore
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Charrington, Spencer	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin
Banbury, Frederick George	Clive, Captain Perey A.	Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir William Hart
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton
Beckett, Ernest William	Cogbill, Douglas Harry	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)
Beresford LordCharlesWilliam	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward
Bignold, Arthur	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Fergusson, RtHn. SirJ.(Manc'r)
Bigwood, James	Compton, Lord Alwyne	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Finch, George H.
Bond, Edward	Cranborne, Viscount	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Cripps, Charles Alfred	Firbank, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Bousfield, William Robert	Cross, Alexander (Glasgow)	Fisher, William Hayes
Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex)	Crossley, Sir Savile	Fison, Frederick William
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Ridley, Hon. M. W.(Stalybridge)
Forster, Henry William	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Ritchie, RtHon. Chas. Thomson
Gardner, Ernest	Leveson-Gower, Frederick, N. S	Roberts. Samuel (Sheffield)
Garfit, William	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H.(City of Lond)	Long, Col. CharlesW.(Evesham)	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.)	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Lowe, Francis William	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Gore, HnG. R. C. Ormsby-(Salop)	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Lucas, ReginaldJ.(Portsmouth)	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Graham, Henry Robert	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Macartney, RtHn. W. G. Ellison	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Greene, SirEW(B'ry Edm'nds)	Macdona, John Cumming	Smith, Abel H.(Hertford, East)
Grenfell, William Henry	MacIver, David Liverpool)	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside)
Groves, James Grimble	Maconochie, A. W.	Smith, JamesParker(Lanarks.)
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Majendie, James A. H.	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Guthrie, Walter Murray	Manners, Lord Cecil	Spear, John Ward
Hamilton Rt. HnLordG(Midd'x)	Mildmay, Francis Bingham	Stanley, EdwardJas(Somerset)
Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm.	Milner, Rt. Hn. SirFrederick G.	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashford)	Montagu. G. (Huntingdon)	Stewart, SirMarkJ. M'Taggart
Hare, Thomas Leigh	Montagu, Hon. J. Scott(Hants.)	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Harris, Frederick Leverton	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Stock, James Henry
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Strutr, Hon. Charles Hedley
Henderson, Sir Alexander	MorganDavidJ(Walthamstow)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.	Morrell, George Herbert	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G.(Oxf'dUniv.)
Higginbottom, S. W.	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Hoare, Sir Samuel	MurrayRtHn. A. Grabam(Bute)	Thoruton, Percy M.
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.)	Murray, CharlesJ.(Coventry)	Tomlinson, Sir. Wm. Edw. M.
Hogg, Lindsay	Newdegate, Francis A. N.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Hope, J. F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Valentia, Viscount
Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Hozier, Hon. James HenryCecil	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Pease, HerbertPike(Darlington)	Welby, Lt-ColA. C. E.(Taunton)
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Peel, Hn. Wm. RobertWellesley	Whiteley, H(Ashton and. Lyne)
Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.	Pemberton, John S. G.	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Jessel, Captain HerbertMerton	Perey, Earl	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Johnstone, Heywood	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Kemp, George	Plummer, Walter R.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W.(Salop.)	Pretyman, Ernest George	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Keswick, William	Pryee-Jones, Lt. Col. Edward	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Kimber, Henry	Purvis, Robert	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Randles, John S.	Younger, William
Knowles, Lees	Rankin, Sir James
Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)	Ratcliff, R. F.	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Reid, James (Greenock)	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Lawson, John Grant	Remnant, James Farquharson
NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Lambert, George
Allen, CharlesP.(Glouc.,Stroud)	Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)	Layland-Barratt, Francis
Atherley-Jones, L.	Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Leng, Sir John
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Duncan, J. Hastings	Levy, Maurice
Bell, Richard	Edwards, Frank	Lough, Thomas
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Ellis, John Edward	M'Kenna, Reginald
Brigg, John	Evans, SirFrancisH(Maidstone)	M'Laren, Sir Charless Benjamin
Broadhurst, Henry	Evans, Samuel T.(Glamorgan)	Markham, Arthur Basil
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Fenwick, Charles	Morgan, J. Lloyd(Carmarthen)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Fuller, J. M. F.	Moulton, John Fletcher
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Newnes, Sir George
Caldwell, James	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Norman, Henry
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Causton, Richard Knight	Hayne, Rt. Hon. CharlesSeale-	Nussey, Thomas Willians
Channing, Francis Allston	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Partington, Oswald
Craig, Robert Hunter	Helme, Norval Wastson
Cremer, William Randal	Holland, Sir William Henry	Paulton, James Mellor
Dalziel, James Henry	Horniman, Frederick John	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Davies, Alfred(Carmarthen)	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Philipps, John Wynford

price, Robert John	Soames, Arthur Wellesley	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Priestley, Arthur	Spencer, RtHn. C. R. Northants)	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Rickett, J. Compton	Stevenson, Francis S.	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Rigg Richard	Tennant, Harold John	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid,)
Roberts, John Bryn (Eilion)	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)	Wilson, Henry J.(York, W. R.)
Robson, William Snowdon	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr)	Woodhouse, Sir J. T (Hudd'rshd)
Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Thomson F. W. (York, W. R.)
Schwann, Charles E.	Toulmin, George
Shackelton, David James	Walton, Joseph Barnsley	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Shaw, Charles Edw.(Stafford)	Weir, James Galloway	Mr. Herbert Gladstone and Mr. William M'Arthur.
Shipman, Dr. John G.	White, George (Norfolk)
Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)

(11.48) Question put, "That this Schedule be added to the Bill as the Third Schedule."

(12.1) Question put, "That the Chairman do report the Bill, as amended, to the House."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 212; Noes, 83. (Division List No. 512.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Henderson, Sir Alexander
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Davenport, W. Bromley-	Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T.
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Denny, Colonel	Higginbottom, S. W.
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Dickson, Charles Scott	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Arrol, Sir William	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Hobhouse, Henry(Somerset, E.)
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hogg, Lindsay
Bailey, James (Walworth)	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dix'n	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside)
Baird, John George Alexander	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry
Balcarres, Lord	Doughty, George	Hozier, Hon. JamesHenryCecil
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r)	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred.
Balfour, RtHnGerland W. (Leeds)	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.)	Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart	Johnstone, Heywood
Banbury, Frederick George	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Kemp, George
Bathurst, Hon. Allen Benjamin	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Kenyon, Hn. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Beckett, Ernesrt William	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop.)
Beresford, Lord Chas. William	Fergusson, Rt. Hn. SirJ. (Manc'r)	Keswick, William
Bignold, Arthur	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Kimber, Henry
Bigwood, James	Finch, George H.	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Knowles, Lees
Bond, Edward	Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Fisher, William Hayes	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Bousfield, William Robert	Fison, Frederick William	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Bowels, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Lawson, John Grant
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Forster, Henry William	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
BrookField, Colonel Montagu	Gardner, Ernest	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Brotherton, Edward Allen	Garfit, William	Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S.
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.)	Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (City of Lond.)	Loder, Gerland Walter (Erskine)
Bull, William James	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Long, Col. CharlesW.(Evesham)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Godson, Sir AugustusFrederick	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol. S.)
Butcher, John George	Gore, HnG. R. Cormsby-(Salop)	Lowe, Francis William
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire)	Gore, Hon S. F. Ormsby-(Line.)	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwhich)	Goulding Edward Alfred	Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)
Chamberlain, RtHnJ. A(Wore.)	Graham, Henry Robert	Lucas, ReginaldJ. (Portsmouth)
Champman, Edward	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred
Charrington, Spencer	Greene, SirEW (B'rysS. Edm'nds)	Macartney, RtHn. W. Gellison
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Grenfell, William Henry	Macdona, John Cumming
Coghill, Douglas Harry	Groves James Grimble	Maclver, David (Liverpool)
Coolings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Masconochie, A. W.
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Majendie, James A. H.
Compton, Lord Alwyne	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G. (Midd'x)	Manners, Lord Cecil
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Hanbury, Rt. Hon Robert Wm.	Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Cranborne, Viscount	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd)	Milner, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick G.
Cross Alexander (Glasgow)	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Crossley, Sir Savile	Harris, Frederick Leverton	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth)
Morgan, DavidJ(Walth'mstow)	Roberts, Samuel (Sheflield)	Thornton, Percy M.
Morrell, George Herbert	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Rolleston, Sir John F. L.	Tufnell Lieut.-Col. Edward
Murray, Rt HnA. Graham(Bute)	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Tully, Jasper
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Valentia, Viscount
Newdegate, Francis A. N.	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Vincent Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Welby, Lt-Col A. C. E. (Taunton)
Parker, Sir Gilbert	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Whiteley, H(Ashton-Und. Lyne)
Pease, Herbert Pike(Darlingt'n)	Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)	Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Peel, Hn Wm. Robert Wellesley	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)	Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Pemberton, John S. G.	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)	Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Percy, Earl	Smith, HC(North'mb. Tyneside)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.)
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Pretyman, Ernest George	Spear, John Ward	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset)	Wringston, Sir Thomas
Purvis, Robert	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Randles, John S.	Stewart, SirMark J. M'Taggart	Younger, William
Rankin, Sir James	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Ratcliff, R. F.	Stock, James Henry
Reid, James (Greenock)	Strntt, Hon. Charles Hedley	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Remnant, James Farquharson	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)	Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge)	Talbot, Rt. HnJG(Oxford Univ.)
NOES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda)	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Runciman, Walter
Allen, CharlesP.(Glouc.,Stroud)	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Helme, Norval Watson	Schwann, Charles E.
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Holland, Sir William Henry	Shackleton, David James
Bell, Richard	Horniman, Frederick John	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Brigg, John	Lambert, George	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Broadhurst, Henry	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh)	Leng, Sir John	Spencer, RtHn. C. R.(Northants)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Levy, Maurice	Stevenson, Francis S.
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Lewis, John Herbert	Tennant, Harold John
Caldwell, James	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Causton, Richard Knight	M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin	Thomas, David Alf. (Merthyr)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Cremer, William Randal	Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)	Toulmin, George
Dalziel, James Henry	Moulton, John Fletcher	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Davies, Alfred (Camarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Weir, James Galloway
Dewar, John A (Inverness-sh.	Norman, Henry	White, George (Norfolk)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Nussey, Thomas Willians	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Parington, Oswald	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Edwards, Frank	Paulton, James Mellor	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Ellis, John Edward	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Evans, SirFrancisH(Maidstone)	Philipps, John Wynford	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Fenwick, Charles	Price, Robert John	Woodhouse, SirJT(Huddersf'd)
Fuller, J. M. F.	Priestley, Arthur
Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert. John	Rickett, J. Compton
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Rigg, Richard	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Mr. Samuel Evans and Mr. M'Kenna
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Robson, William Snowdon

Bill reported, as amended, to be considered upon Tuesday next, and to be printed. [Bill 303.]

Mr. SPEAKER, in pursuance of the Order of the House of the 16th October last, adjourned the House without Question put.

Adjourned at a quarter after Twelve o'clock.