§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the additional customs duties on tobacco, beer, and spirits imposed by sections 2, 3, 4, and 5 of the Finance Act, 1900 (including any increased duties imposed by Section 5 of that Act), shall continue to be charged until the 1st day of August, 1903."—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)
§ (10.10.) MR. FLYNNsaid they had hoped that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would announce a reduction of the tobacco duty. To the Irish working man tobacco had become almost a necessity, and he spent upon it a larger proportion of his earnings than the people of the wealthier country of England. Many a hard-working Irishman, peasant or town artisan, would rather go without his breakfast than forfeit his dearly-loved pipe of tobacco. That might be very wrong or foolish, but at any rate he paid the tax. He had been talking to a Member of the House who was a teetotaller, and who did not smoke or take tea, and the only way in which this Budget would touch that hon. Member was by the additional penny which was put upon the income tax. And yet the poor Irish peasant had to pay more upon his tea and tobacco than the hon. Member he alluded to paid upon the income tax. He thought the. Committee generally would not have objected to an additional four-
§ pence on the income tax, rather than that an additional burden should have been placed upon the peasantry of Ireland. The case of the poor people of Ireland had often been brought before the House, and he wished to point out to hon. Members that tobacco and tea had become almost a necessity with the Irish people, for those articles had long since ceased to be luxuries. Well-to-do people looked with amazement at the fact that an Irish working man generally spent ninepence or a shilling a week upon his beloved weed. To the Irish peasant woman, who consumed a large amount of tea, and to the Irish workman, who was fond of tobacco, the high duty now being imposed was practically a sumptuary law. He bad no association or sympathy whatever with the huge tobacco "combines" which had been formed, but he thought that in this Budget there should have been some assuagement of the burdens upon Irish working men. He hoped that before the Budget was finally adopted they would get some crumb of comfort from the right hon. Gentleman. He pleaded for the Irish working men, and he sincerely trusted that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be able to see his way to give some little concession.
§ (10.16.) Question put.
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 272 Noes, 56. (Division List So. 112.)
363AYES. | ||
Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. P. | Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Channing, Francis Allston |
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Bignold, Arthur | Chapman, Edward |
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel | Bigwood, James | Charrington, Spencer |
Allan, William (Gateshead) | Bill, Charles | Clare, Octavius Leigh |
Allen, Charles P. (Glouc., Stroud | Black, Alexander William | Clive, Captain Percy A. |
Anson, Sir William Reynell | Blundell, Colonel Henry | Coghill, Douglas Harry |
Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Bond, Edward | Cohen, Benjamin Louis |
Arkwright, John Stanhope | Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse |
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. | Brassey, Albert | Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole |
Arrol, Sir William | Brigg, John | Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) |
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Brookfield, Colonel Montagu | Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge |
Bagot, Capt. Josceline Fitz Roy | Brotherton, Edward Allen | Craig, Robert Hunter |
Bailey, James (Walworth) | Butcher, John George | Cranborne, Viscount |
Bain, Colonel James Robert | Buxton, Sydney Charles | Cripps, Charles Alfred |
Baird, John George Alexander | Caldwell, James | Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) |
Balcarres, Lord | Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. | Crossley, Sir Savile |
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r | Cavendish, V. C. W, (Derbyshire | Dalkeith, Earl of |
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds) | Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Dalrymple, Sir Charles |
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. (Birm. | Davenport, William Bromley- |
Banbury, Frederick George | Chamberlain, J. Ansten (Worc'r | Davies, Sir Horatio D, (Chatham |
Beach, Rt Hn. Sir Michael Hicks | Chamberlayne, T. (S'thampton) | Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan |
Dickinson, Robert Edmond | Laurie, Lieut.-General | Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson |
Dickson, Charles Scott | Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
Dorington, Sir John Edward | Lawson, John Grant | Roberts, John H. (Denbighs) |
Doughty, George | Lee, Arthur H (Hants, Fareham | Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) |
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) |
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Robson, William Snowdon |
Doxford, Sir William Theodore | Leigh, Sir Joseph | Roe, Sir Thomas |
Duke, Henry Edward | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Rolleston, Sir John F. L. |
Duncan, J. Hastings | Leng, Sir John | Round, James |
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S. | Russell, T. W. |
Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone | Levy, Maurice | Rutherford, John |
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) | Lewis, John Herbert | |
Llewellyn, Evan Henry | Sackville, Col. S. G Stopford- | |
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
Fenwick, Charles | Lough, Thomas | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Lowe, Francis William | Seely, Maj. J E B (Isle of Wight |
Finch, George H. | Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) |
Fisher, William Hayes | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth | Shaw-Stewart. M. H. (Renfrew |
Flower, Ernest | Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
Forster, Henry William | Skewes-Cox, Thomas | |
Foster, Sir Michael (Lond. Univ. | Macdona, John Cumming | Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East |
Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S. W | MacIver, David (Liverpool) | Smith, HC (North'mb. Tyneside |
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Smith, James Parker (Lanarks |
Fuller, J. M. F. | M'Calmont, Col. J. (Antrim, E) | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
M'Crae, George | Spear, John Ward | |
Gardner, Ernest | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire | Spencer, Rt. Hn. C. R (Northants |
Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (City of Lond. | M'Laren, Charles Benjamin | Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset |
Goddard, Daniel Ford | Majendie, James A. H. | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) |
Gordon, Hn. J. F. (Elgin & Nairn | Malcolm, Ian | Stewart, Sir Mark J. M'Taggart |
Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby-(Linc.) | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon | Markham, Arthur Basil | Sturt, Hon. Humphrey Napier |
Goulding, Edward Alfred | Martin, Richard Biddulph | |
Grant, Corrie | Maxwell, Rt Hn Sir H E (Wigt'n | Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr |
Green, Walford D (Wednesbury | Maxwell, W J H (Dumfriesshire | Thomas, J A (Glamorgan, Gower |
Gretton, John | Mitchell, William | Thompson, F. W. (York, W. R. |
Griffith, Ellis J. | More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire | Thornton, Percy M. |
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | Morgan, David. J (Walthamst'w | Tollemache, Henry James |
Guthrie, Walter Murray | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen | Tomkinson, James |
Morrison, James Archibald | Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray | |
Hall, Edward Marshall | Morton, Arthur H. A. (Deptford | Tuke, Sir John Batty |
Hambro, Charles Eric | Moss, Samuel | |
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x | Moulton, John Fletcher | Valentia, Viscount |
Hamilton, Marq. of (L'nd'nderry | Mount, William Arthur | |
Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. | Warr, Augustus Frederick |
Hare, Thomas Leigh | Murray, Rt Hn A Graham (Bute | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney |
Harmsworth, R. Leicester | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry | Welby, Lt. Col. A C E (Taunton |
Haslam, Sir Alfred S. | Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath | Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts |
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. | White, Luke (York, E. R.) | |
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- | Nicholson, William Graham | Whiteley, H (Ashton und Lyne |
Heath, James (Staffords. N. W. | Norman, Henry | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
Holder, Augustus | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Williams, Osmond (Merioneth |
Hermon-Hodge. Robert Trotter | Williams, Rt Hn J Powell-(Birm | |
Hickman, Sir Alfred | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens | Willox, Sir John Archibald |
Hoare, Sir Samuel | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Wills, Sir Frederick |
Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E.) | Palmer, Walter (Salisbury) | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R. |
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E. | Parkes, Ebenezer | Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid |
Hogg, Lindsay | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlingt'n | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid) |
Holland, William Henry | Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden) | Wilson, John (Falkirk) |
Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside | Pemberton, John S. G. | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
Hoult, Joseph | Platt-Higgins. Frederick | Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh, N |
Houston, Robert Paterson | Plummer, Walter R. | Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks |
Howard, John (Kent, F'versham | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Woodhouse, Sir. J T (Huddersf'd |
Priestley, Arthur | Wortley, Rt. Hn. C. B. Stuart- | |
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward | Wylie, Alexander |
Johnston, William (Belfast) | Purvis, Robert | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
Jones, William (C'rnarvonshire | Pym, C. Guy | |
Kearley, Hudson E. | Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong | |
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H. | Randles, John S. | Younger, William |
Kenyon, James (Lancs., Bary) | Rankin, Sir James | Yoxall, James Henry |
Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop) | Rattigan, Sir William Henry | |
Keswick, William | Rea, Russell | |
Kitson, Sir James | Reid, James (Greenock) | |
Knowles, Lees | Remnant, James Farquharson | TELLERS FOR THE AVES—Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther |
Lambton, Hn. Frederick Wm. | Rickett, J. Compton | |
Langley, Batty | Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge |
NOES. | ||
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E. | Joyce, Michael | O'Malley, William |
Blake, Edward | Lundon, W. | O'Mara, James |
Burke, E. Haviland- | MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. |
Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Power, Patrick Joseph |
Cogan, Denis. J. | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Reddy, M. |
Condon, Thomas Joseph | M'Cann, James | Redmond, John E. (Waterford |
Crean, Eugene | M'Govern, T. | Robertson, Edmund (Dundee) |
Cremer, William Randal | M'Kean, John | Roche, John |
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) | M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) | Schwann, Charles E. |
Delany, William | Minch, Matthew | Sheehan, Daniel Daniel |
Dillon, John | Mooney, John J. | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
Doogan, P. C. | Murphy, John | Sullivan, Donal |
Ffrench, Peter | Nannetti, Joseph P. | White, Patrick (Meath, North |
Field, William | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N) | Young, Samuel |
Flynn, James Christopher | Nolan, Joseph (Lonth, South. | |
Gilhooly, James | O'Brien, James F. X. (Cork) | |
Hammond, John | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary. N.) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Captain Donelan and MR Patrick O'Brien. |
Harrington, Timothy | O'Connor, James (Wicklow. W. | |
Hayden, John Patrick | O'Donnell, T. (Kerry. W.) | |
Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) | O'Dowd, John | |
Jordan, Jeremiah | O'Kelly, James (Roscommon. N |