§ Resolution reported:—
§ "That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty for the service of the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1900, the sum of £13,000,000 be granted out of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom."
§ Resolution read a second time.
§ Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ MR. DILLONsaid that this resolution agreed to in Committee of Ways and 494 Means differed radically from that passed in October last, when the Vote of ten millions was passed for the commencement of the expenses of the war—a Vote which the House was led to expect would see us through the war. The Chancellor of the Exchequer then proposed two resolutions—first a resolution granting the money out of the Consolidated Fund, and second, a resolution that towards that sum of ten millions the Government should be authorised to issue a sum not exceeding eight millions by the issue of Treasury Bills, On that occasion, following the usual practice, the Chancellor of the Exchequer made a very interesting statement, in which he discussed that most important question, and justified it, or sought to justify it at considerable length. At any rate he took 495 the Committee into his confidence. It was worth while recalling his words to the memory of the House:—
I should hope that no member of the Committee would suggest that that war expenditure—though it be about to be incurred in a war which, unquestionably, is of greater magnitude than any in which we have been engaged for some time past—yet I hope that I no one will suggest that this is a case in which it should be provided for by a permanent addition to the Debt of the country. To my mind, no such permanent addition would be justifiable, except, of course, in the event, which I hope we shall never see in our time, of a war with a first-class Power.Now that statement was received with [universal approbation throughout the House. Then the Chancellor of the Exchequer went on to justify his action, which he admitted was a departure from precedents, not to make any provision for the expenses of the war out of current taxation, and he frankly stated that it was because there was only five months of the current financial year to run, and that therefore no now taxation proposals could be made effective. He should like to hear from the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and he thought the House was entitled to hear, some statement of the principles on which the right hon. Gentleman proposed to raise the present sum of £13,000,000.
§ MR. SPEAKERsaid a discussion cm that point could not be allowed on the present resolution. The time for discussing the mode in which the money was to be raised would be at a subsequent stage.
§ THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER (Sir M. HICKS BEACH,) Bristol, W.said that at the present moment the Exchequer had means at its disposal for defraying current expenses without being obliged to come to Parliament. But it would be necessary before the close of the financial year to come to Parliament and ask the House to make provision for supplying further means to the Exchequer, and of course on that occasion he would explain fully to the Committee the mode in which he proposed to raise the money.
§ MR. A. J. BALFOURrose in his place, and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."
§ Question put, "That the Question be now put."
§ The House divided:—Ayes, 189; Noes, 31. (Division List No. 26.)
497| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Charrington, Spencer | Foster, Harry S. (Suffolk) |
| Arehdale, Edward Mervyn | Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Galloway, William Johnson |
| Arnold, Alfred | Colomb, Sir John Charles R. | Gedge, Sydney |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Corbett, A Cameron (Glasgow) | Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (C. of Lond.) |
| Baird, John George Alexander | Cross, H. Shepherd (Bolton) | Gladstone, Rt. Hon. Herbert J. |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J. (Manch'r) | Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Goddard, Daniel Ford |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Curzon, Viscount | Godson, Sir Augustus F. |
| Barry, Rt. Hn. A.H.S. (Hunts) | Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Goldswothy, Major-General |
| Hartley, George C. T. | Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Gordon, Hon. John Edward |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H. (Bristol | Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan | Gorst, Rt. Hn. Sir John E. |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. W. W. B. (Hants | Denny, Colonel | Goschen, Rt. Hn. G. J. (St Geo's) |
| Beaumont, Wentworth C. B. | Digby, J. K. D. Wingfield | Graham, Henry Robert |
| Bethell, Commander | Disraeli, Coningshy Ralph | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) |
| Bill, Charles | Dorington, Sir John Edward | Greene, H. D. (Shrewsbury) |
| Billson, Alfred | Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers | Gretton, John |
| Blakiston-Houston, John | Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Greville, Hon. Ronald |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Doxford, Sir Wm. Theodore | Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) |
| Bood, Edward | Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. | Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill |
| Bowles. Capt. H. F. (Middlesex) | Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Gull, Sir Cameron |
| Brodriek, Rt. Hon. St. John | Elliot, Hn. A. Ralph Douglas | Haldane, Richard Burdon |
| Bullard, Sir Harry | Emmott, Alfred | Hamilton, Rt. Hon. Lord G. |
| Butcher, John George | Faber, George Denison | Hanbury, Rt. Hn. Robt. Wm. |
| Caldwell, James | Fellowes, Hn. Ailwyn Edward | Hanson, Sir Reginald |
| Carlile, William Walter | Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith | Hare, Thomas Leigh |
| Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs) | Fergusson, Rt Hn Sir J. (Manc'r | Haslett, Sir James Horner |
| Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh.) | Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Hedderwick, Thomas C. H. |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Fisher, William Hayes | Helder, Augustus |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm. | Fitz Wygram, General Sir F. | Henderson, Alexander |
| Chamberlain, J. A. (Worc'r) | Fletcher, Sir Henry | Hermon-Hodge, Robt. Trotter |
| Chaplin, Right Hon. Henry | Foster, Colonel (Lancaster) | Hoare, Ed. Brodie (Hampstead) |
| Hoare, Sir Samuel (Norwich) | Milner, Sir Frederick George | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Hobhouse, Henry | Milward, Colonel Victor | Sidebotham, J. W. (Cheshire) |
| Holland, William Henry | Monckton, Edward Philip | Simeon, Sir Harrington |
| Horniman, Frederick John | Montagu, Hon. J. Scott (Hants.) | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) |
| Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy | Smith, James Parker (Lanarks. |
| Jeffreys, Arthur Frederick | More, Robt. J. (Shropshire) | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen | Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset |
| Johnston, William (Belfast) | Morton, Arthur H. A. (Deptford | Stewart, Sir Mark J.M 'Taggart |
| Kenyon-Slaney, Col. William | Muntz, Philip A. | Strachey, Edward |
| Kimber, Henry | Murray, Rt. Hn. A. G. (Bute) | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Lafone, Alfred | Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Laurie, Lieut.-General | Nicol, Donald Ninian | Sutherland, Sir Thomas |
| Lawrence, Sir E Durning-(Corn | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Talbot Rt. Hn. J. G. (Ox. Univ. |
| Lawson, John Grant (Yorks.) | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Thorburn, Sir Walter |
| Lea, Sir Thomas (Londonderry | Penn, John | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Lecky, Rt. Hon. W. E. H. | Phillpotts, Captain Arthur | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Tomlinson, Wm. E. Murray |
| Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Plunkett, Rt. Hon. H. Curzon | Tritton, Charles Ernest |
| Llewelyn, Sir Dillwyn- (Swan.) | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Walton, Joseph (Harnsley) |
| Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A. R. | Provand, Andrew Dryburgh | Wanklyn, James Leslie |
| Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Lorne, Marquess of | Purvis, Robert | Webster, Sir Richard E. |
| Lowe, Francis William | Rentoul, James Alexander | Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E. |
| Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Richardson, Sir T. (Hartlep'l) | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Lucas-Shadwell, William | Ritchie, Rt. Hon. C. Thomson | Williams, Joseph Powell- (Birm. |
| Macartney, W. G. Ellison | Robinson, Brooke | Wilson, Frederick W.(Norfolk) |
| Macdona, John Cumming | Round, James | Wilson-Todd, Wm. H.(Yorks.) |
| Maclure, Sir John William | Royds, Clement Molyneux | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Shuart |
| M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Russell, Gen. K. S. (Cheltenham | Wyndham, George |
| M'Arthur, William (Cornwall) | Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) | Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy |
| M'Crae, George | Rutherford, John | Young, Commander (Berks, E.) |
| Malcolm, Ian | Ryder, John Herbert Dudley | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Martin, Richard Biddulph | Sandys, Lt.-Col. Thos. Myles | |
| Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Savory, Sir Joseph | |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork, N. E. | Flynn, James Christopher | Parnell, John Howard |
| Ambrose, Robert | Hayden, John Patrick | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Austin, M. (Limerick, W.) | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale | Redmond. J. E. (Waterford) |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Kilbride, Denis | Redmond, William (Clare) |
| K'rean, Eugene | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cumb'l'd) | Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) |
| Crilly, Daniel | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.) |
| Curran, Thomas B. (Donegal) | M'Dermott, Patrick | Tally, Jasper |
| Dillon, John | M'Ghee, Richard | |
| Doogan, P. C. | Mandeville, J. Francis | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Sir Thomas Esmonde and Captain Donelan. |
| Engledew, Charles John | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | |
| Farrell, James P. (Cavan, W.) | O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. | |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Malley, William |
§ Question put accordingly, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
498§ The House divided: Ayes, 187; Noes, 30. (Division List No. 27.)
499| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex) | Cubitt, Hon. Henry |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Curzon, Viscount |
| Arnold, Alfred | Bullard, Sir Harry | Dalrymple, Sir Charles |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Butcher, John George | Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) |
| Baird, John George Alexander | Caldwell, James | Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. A.J. (Manch'r) | Carlile, William Walter | Denny, Colonel |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.) | Digby, John K. D. Wingfield |
| Barry, Rt Hn AH Smith-(Hunts | Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire | Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph |
| Bartley, George C. T. | Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Dorington, Sir John Edward |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M. H. (Bristol | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. (Birm | Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. W. W. B.(Hants. | Chamberlain, J Austen (Worc'r | Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) |
| Beaumont, Wentworth C. B. | Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry | Doxford, Sir Wm. Theodore |
| Bethell, Commander | Charington, Spencer | Duucombe, Hon. Hubert V. |
| Billson, Alfred | Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton |
| Blakiston, Houston, John | Colomb, Sir J. Charles Ready | Elliot, Hon. A. R. Douglas |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Faber, George Denison |
| Bond, Edward | Cross, U. Shepherd (Bolton) | Fellowes, Hon. Ailvyn Edward |
| Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith) | Lafone, Alfred | Richardson, Sir T. (Hartlep'l) |
| Furgusson, Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Manc. | Laurie, Lieut.-General | Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson |
| Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Lawrence, Sir E. Durning (Corn | Robinson, Brooke |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Lawson, John Grant (Yorks) | Round, James |
| Fitz Wygram, General Sir F. | Lea, Sir Thomas (Londonderry | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Fletcher, Sir Henry | Lecky, Rt Hon William Edw. H. | Russell, Gen. F.S. (Cheltenhant) |
| Foster, Colonel (Lancaster) | Leese, Sir Joseph F (Accrington | Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) |
| Galloway, William Johnson | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Rutherford, John |
| Gedge, Sydney | Llewelyn, Sir Dilwyn-(Swansea | Ryder, John Herbert Dudley |
| Gibbs, Hn. A.G.H. (City of Lon. | Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A.R. | Sandys, Lt.-Col. Thos. Myles |
| Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert J. | Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine | Savory, Sir Joseph |
| Goddard, Daniel Ford | Lorne, Marquess of | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick | Lowe, Francis W. | Sidebotham, J. W. (Cheshire) |
| Goldsworthy, Major-General | Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
| Gordon, Hon. John Edward | Lucas-Shadwell, William | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) |
| Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon | Macartney, W. G. Ellison | Smith, James Parker (Lanarks |
| Goschen, Rt. Hn. G. J. (St. Geor. | Macdona, John Cumming | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Graham, Henry Robert | Maclure, Sir John William | Stanley, Edward J. (Somerset) |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart |
| Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) | M'Arthur, William (Cornwall | Strachey, Edward |
| Gretton, John | M'Crae, George | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Greville, Hon. Ronald | M'Kenna, Reginald | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) | Malcolm, Ian | Sutherland, Sir Thomas |
| Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill | Martin, Richard Biddulph | Talbot, Rt. Hn. J.G. (Oxford U. |
| Gull, Sir Cameron | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Thorburn, Sir Walter |
| Haldane, Richard Burdon | Milner, Sir Federick George | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Hamilton, Rt. Hn. Lord George | Milward, Colonel Victor | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert W. | Monckton, Edward Philip | Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray |
| Hanson, Sir Reginald | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy | Tritton, Charles Ernest |
| Hare, Thomas Leigh | More, R. Jasper (Shropshire) | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Haslett, Sir James Horner | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | Wanklyn, James Leslie |
| Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale | Morton, Edw. J.C.(Devonport) | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Hedderwick, Thomas Cha. H. | Muntz, Philip A. | Webster, Sir Richard E. |
| Helder, Augustus | Murray, Rt. Hn. A. Graham | Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E. |
| Henderson, Alexander | Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Hermon-Hodge, Robt. Trotter | Nicol, Donald Ninian | Williams, Joseph Powell-(Birm |
| Hoare, E. Brodie (Hampstead | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Wilson, Frederick W. (Norfolk) |
| Hoare, Sir Samuel (Norwich) | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.) |
| Hobhouse, Henry | Penn, John | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- |
| Holland, William Henry | Phillpotts, Captain Arthur | Wyndham, George |
| Horniman Frederick John | Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy |
| Hozier, Hon. James Hy. Cecil | Plunkett, Rt. Hn. H. Curzon | Young, Commander (Berks, E.) |
| Jeffreys, Arthur Frederick | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | |
| Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton | Provand, Andrew Dryburgh | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Johnston, William (Belfast) | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward | |
| Kenyon-Slaney, Col. William | Purvis, Robert | |
| Kimber, Henry | Rentoul, James Alexander | |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham Wm. (Cork, N.E.) | Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Malley, William |
| Ambrose, Robert | Flynn, James Christopher | Parnell, John Howard |
| Austin, M. (Limerick, W.) | Hayden, John Patrick | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Kilbride, Denis | Redmond, J. E. (Waterford) |
| Crean, Eugene | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'land) | Redmond, William (Clare) |
| Crilly, Daniel | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) |
| Curran, T. B. (Donegal) | M'Dermott, Patrick | Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.) |
| Dillon, John | M'Ghee, Richard | Tully, Jasper |
| Doogan, P. C | Mandeville, J. Francis | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir Thomas Esmonde and Captain Donelan. |
| Engledew, Charles John | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | |
| Farrell, James P. (Cavan, W.) | O'Connor, J. (Wicklow, W.) |
Resolution agreed to.
§ Bill ordered to be brought in by Mr. James William Lowther, Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr. Hanbury.