Commons Sitting of 10 August 1840

MINUTES.
Petitions presented. By Sir F. Pollock, from Glasgow, for the Dismissal of Ministers.—By Mr. T. Buncombe, from Mr. Bronterre O'Brien, to be Released or Removed from Lancaster Castle.

LOAN SOCIETIES.
Mr. F. Maule Mr. F. Maule moved that the House do agree with the Lords' Amendments to the Loan Societies Bill.
Amendmentsagreed to as far as clause A.
On this clause,
Mr. Hawesrose to oppose that amendment (of the Lords). It prevented any Loan Society from holding its sitting in any public-house, beer-shop, or tavern, under a penalty of 10 l. He would rather get rid of the bill altogether than consent to this clause, and he now moved its omission,
Mr. Wakleyconcurred in Mr. Hawes's view of the clause, and seconded the motion.
Mr. F. Mauledid not approve of the clause, but he feared its rejection would risk the bill in the present Session. If he thought it could be got rid of without endangering the bill, he would oppose it.
The House divided on the question that the clause be omitted: Ayes 40; Noes 14: Majority 26.

List of the AYES.

Baring, rt. hn. F. T.

Pechell, Captain

Bridgeman, H.

Philips, M.

Bryan, G.

Price, Sir R.

Clay, W.

Russell, Lord J.

Dennison, W. J.

Rutherfurd, rt. hn. A.

Divett, E.

Seale, Sir J. H.

Elliot, hon. J. E.

Smith, B.

Evans, Sir de L.

Smith, R. V.

Ewart, W.

Stewart, J.

Fazakerley, J. N.

Sturt, H. C.

Grey, rt. hn. Sir C.

Thornely, T.

Harcourt, G. G.

Troubridge, Sir E. T.

Hindley, C.

Turner, E.

Hobhouse, rt. hn. Sir J.

Vigors, N. A.

Hoskins, K.

Wakley, T.

Lushington, rt. hn. S.

Warburton, H.

Maule, hon. F.

Wood, B.

Morris, D.

Yates, J. A.

Muskett, G. A.

Palmer, G.

TELLERS.

Palmerston, Viscount

Hawes, B.

Pattison, J.

Duncombe, T.

List of the NOES.

Blackstone, W. S.

Holmes, W.

Broadley, H.

Inghara, R.

Brotherton, J.

Irton, S.

Burrell, Sir C.

Somerset, Lord G.

Corry, hon. H.

Trotter, J.

Dottin, A.R.

Douglas, Sir C. E.

TELLERS.

Estcourt, T.

Freshfield, J.

Hobhouse, T. B.

Aglionby, H. A.

The clause struck out.
Other amendments agreed to.
A conference was held with the Lords to explain the Commons reasons for rejecting the amendment. Their Lordships subsequently communicated to the Commons, that they did not insist on their amendment.

JOINT-STOCK BANKS.
On the Order of the Day for taking into consideration the Lords' amendments to the Joint-Stock Banking Companies Bill,
The Chancellor of the Exchequermoved that the House disagree to the Lords' amendment on the 8th clause, to enable
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a party, on getting judgment against the secretary or other officer of the company, to have execution against any one of the shareholders. He had no objection to making all the shareholders liable, if due notice were given; but this amendment went to extend the liability so far both as to time and amount, that, especially at the end of the Session, when there was not opportunity for considering all the bearings of so important an alteration of the law, he could not agree to it.
Motion agreed to.
A conference was held with the Lords on the subject, and their Lordships did not insist on their amendment.