HC Deb 10 November 1937 vol 328 cc1789-92W
Captain Plugge

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will state the number of employes in the respective establishments and departments who have been placed on the established lists since November, 1936, up to September, 1937?

Mr. Shakespeare

It is understood that the information sought is confined to workpeople at the Dockyards and the Naval Armament Depots. The numbers of workpeople who have been placed on the established list at these establishments since November, 1936, up to 30th September, IQ—17, are:

Portsmouth.
Captain of Dockyard Department 11
Constructive Department 58
Engineering Department 73
Works Department 12
Electrical Department 18
Naval Store Department 1
Torpedo Depot 7
R.N. Armament Depot 10
Others 4
194
Devonport.
Captain of Dockyard Department 17
Constructive Department 88
Engineering Department 65
Works Department 3
Electrical Department 37
Naval Store Department 10
Torpedo Depot 3
R.N. Armament Depot, Bull Point 3
226
Chatham.
Captain of Dockyard Department 4
Constructive Department 54
Engineering Department 87
Works Department 9
Electrical Department 18
Naval Store Department 13
Torpedo Depot 4
Naval Armament Depot 5
194
Sheerness.
Commanders Department 11
Constructive Department 8
Engineering Department 13
Works Department 1
Electrical Department 7
Naval Store Department 5
Others 1
46
Portland.
Constructive Department 5
Engineering Department 2
Electrical Department 2
Naval Store Department 2
11
Rosyth.
Electrical Department 1
Naval Store Department 1
Boom Defence Depot 1
King's Harbour Master, Rosyth 1
King's Harbour Master, Inver-gordon 1
Others. 1
R.N. Armament Depot, Crombie 2
8
Total 679

Captain Plugge

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the claim for an increase of pay to mechanics has recently been discussed by the Admiralty and, if so, what decision has been arrived at?

Mr. Cooper

The pay of mechanics in the employment of the Admiralty has been the subject of discussions on the Shipbuilding Trade Joint Council for Government Departments, and, at its meeting on the 15th October, 1937, the council decided to refer the matter to a sub-committee for a more detailed examination of the position. This examination is proceeding, and no desision has yet been reached.

Sir R. Gower

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether his attention has been drawn to the recent tendency in His Majesty's Naval Dockyards to allocate to unskilled labourers work which has previously been reserved for the titular trades of leatherworkers and hosemakers, and that in these cases the labourers chosen to do this work are not granted a temporary additional payment equivalent to that of hosemakers but only a temporary rate of is. per week; what is the precise definition of the unskilled labourers' occupation in connection with hosemaking; and what is the line of demarcation between their work and that of the skilled hosemakers and leatherworkers?

Mr. Shakespeare

It is a long established practice in His Majesty's Dockyards to employ skilled labourers on such portions of leather and hosework as fall within their capacity; men rated up from the unskilled labourer's ranks for employment on this work normally commence at a rate of is. above the ordinary labourers' rate and advance in rate of pay according to experience and competency. Only men who have served an apprenticeship or have otherwise had a regular training of not less than five years as skilled leatherworkers in the saddlery, harness-making, boot-making and repairing, or other branch of the leather trade, are classified and paid as skilled leather hosemakers. I am unaware that any change has been made in the above arrangements.

Captain Plugge

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty what is the present number of unestablished employés in His Majesty's naval establishments who have 10 years or more continuous service to their credit?

Mr. Shakespeare

I understood that the information desired is confined to workpeople in the Dockyards and the Naval Armament Depots in this country. The number of unestablished workpeople at these establishments of not less than 10 years' continuous service at the present time is 14,295.

Captain Plugge

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will now consider a claim for a small increase of wages or bonus to all Admiralty industrial employés to meet the increased cost of living?

Mr. Shakespeare

The Board have recently decided to grant an increase of 3s. a week in the industrial bonus of all adult male industrial employes at home, following on the grant of a similar increase in the engineering and shipbuilding industry. The increase was to be paid in two instalments of is. 6d. a week, the first dating from the 23rd August last. The full amount of the increase will take effect from the 15th of this month.