HL Deb 28 July 1931 vol 81 cc1277-9

Clause 20, page 21, line 25, after ("sums") insert ("not exceeding in the aggregate seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds")

ago by the House of Commons, that the power of imposing taxation was entirely in their hands. Your Lordships have never agreed to that, and there have been many occasions when it has suited the Government of the day to impose taxation in this House. But this is not imposing taxation. This is putting a limit to expenditure, which I venture to say is a different thing altogether. In either case there has been no Act of Parliament. There has been nothing but a Motion in another place many years ago, not agreed to in this House, and, therefore, I venture to say that we are perfectly within our rights in insisting upon this Amendment, which we put in when the Bill was before us a short time ago. If we were wrong to put it in then, we ought never to have put it in, but having done so we ought not to run away from it.

On Question, Whether the Motion shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 54; Not-Contents, 10.

CONTENTS.
Sankey, L. (L. Chancellor.) Plymouth, E. Dickinson, L.
Poulett, E. Fairlie, L. (E. Glasgow.)
Parmoor, L. (L. President.) Stanhope, E. Faringdon, L.
Vane, E. (M. Londonderry.) Gage, L. (V. Gage.)
Wellington, D. Greenway, L.
Bertie of Thame, V. Hastings, L.
Dufferin and Ava, M. Bridgeman, V. Hay, L. (E. Kinnoull.) [Teller.]
Linlithgow, M. Elibank, V.
Reading, M. FitzAlan of Derwent, V. Heneage, L.
Goschen, V. Howard of Glossop, L.
Ancaster, E. Hailsham, V. Marks, L.
De La Warr, E. Hood, V. Marley, L. [Teller.]
Harrowby, E. Mersey, V. Noel-Buxton, L.
Lauderdale, E. Passfield, L.
Liverpool, E. Arnold, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Lucan, E. Clanwilliam, L. (E. Clanwilliam.) Sanderson, L.
Malmesbury, E. Snell, L.
Midleton, E. Clinton, L. Stanmore, L.
Munster, E. Cranworth, L. Swinfen, L.
Onslow, E. Danesfort, L. Wavertree, L.
Peel, E. Darling, L.
NOT-CONTENT.
Airlie, E. Banbury of Southam, L. Lamington, L.
Radnor, E. [Teller.] Biddulph, L. Merthyr, L.
Dynevor, L. [Teller.] Redesdale, L.
Novar, V. Forester, L.

The Commons disagree to the above Amendment for the following Reason:

Because it imposes a limit on the sums which may be expended on holdings to be provided under the Bill and the Commons do not offer any further reason, trusting the above Season may be deemed sufficient.

EARL DE LA WARE

My Lords, I beg to move that this House doth not insist on its Amendment.

Moved, That this House doth not insist upon the said Amendment.—(Earl De La Warr.)

On Question, Motion agreed to: the said Amendment not insisted upon accordingly.