HL Deb 24 June 1890 vol 345 cc1761-2
THE EARL OF KIMBERLEY

My noble Friend Lord Rosebery has given notice of a question which he desired to ask the noble Marquess, but he is unable to be present, having duties elsewhere. He has, therefore, requested me to ask the noble Marquess opposite the question on the Paper. Perhaps I may make one remark in order to explain it. It relates to a passage in the noble Marquess's Despatch 10 days ago concerning the recent arrangements in East Africa. The noble Marquess there says that— England will further assume, with the consent of the Sultan of Zanzibar (which has been given), the exclusive protectorate over the Sultanate, including the Islands of Zanzibar and Pemba. The question which my noble Friend Lord Rosebery desired me to ask is this:—1. The exact meaning of the expression "the Sultanate of Zanzibar" in Lord Salisbury's Despatch of 14th June, 1890; 2. If maps will be furnished to the House showing the exact limits of the various territorial proposals involved in the new Convention. As your Lordships are aware, the Sultan of Zanzibar exercises authority over parts of the coast as well as over Zanzibar and Pemba; and, therefore, for the purpose of rightly understanding the arrangement which has been come to, it is desirable to know exactly what is meant by, according to the noble Marquess' Despatch, "the Sultanate of Zanzibar," over which the protectorate is to extend. The maps referred to in the second question would, no doubt, show precisely the boundaries of the territory in reference to the protectorate.

THE PRIME MINISTER AND SECRETARY OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS (The Marquess of SALISBURY)

I imagine that the word "Sultanate" has the same relation to Sultan as Monarchy has to Monarch, or Empire to Emperor. The protectorate over the Sultanate of Zanzibar means, I imagine, the protectorate over the territory which is under the government of the Sultan, or under his suzerainty. If the noble Earl asks mo to give him an enumeration of those territories, of course I shall meet with greater difficulty, because there is a certain amount of controversy attaching to some portions of them; but, generally speaking, they consist of Zanzibar, the islands with which that is-connected, and a considerable portion of the coast. With regard to the second question, as to maps, I inquired to-day, and I was told that the maps have already been sent down to the House of Lords this morning. If that has not been done I will take care that they are sent down without any delay.

House adjourned at five minutes before Seven o'clock, to Thursday next, a quarter past Ten o'clock.