HL Deb 25 July 1887 vol 317 cc1846-7

DISSENTIENTE.

"1. Because exceptional criminal legislation weakens the ordinary administration of justice by inducing reliance on arbitrary methods, and is at the beat only temporary in its effect, while it causes lasting irritation and intense hatred and mistrust of the law.

"2. Because, while it is the fact that in some parts of Ireland the people do not support the administration of the law, we do not, after nearly two years free from exceptional legislation, see evidence of such an amount of crime and lawlessness at the present time as has been held to justify Parliament in enacting measures of special severity.

"3. Because this Bill gives the Irish Executive power on its own responsibility to deprive the whole or any part of the Irish people of those constitutional safeguards and individual rights which are so ju3tly prized in Great Britain.

"4. Because, even if some change in the law of criminal procedure in Ireland be expedient, it is not right to submit for judicial determination questions most difficult of solution, such as charges of conspiracy, to subordinate tribunals dependent upon the will of the Executive.

"5. Because this Bill is not only directed against crime and outrage, but against associations lawful in their objects and methods which are placed at the mercy of the Executive whenever such associations, in the opinion of the Executive, disturb the maintenance of law and order.

"6. Because such legislation is likely to create and stimulate the action of secret societies which will be more dangerous than open associations.

"7. Because the experience of a long series of repressive Acts conclusively shows that exceptional legislation of this kind has failed to secure any permanent respect for law and order, while it tends to render the present system of government in Ireland odious to the Irish people.

"8. Because the only true remedy for the evils which this Bill is intended to meet is to be found in legislation which will bring the people of Ireland into harmony and sympathy with the law and its administration."

"GRANVILLE KENSINGTON
SPENCER LEIGH
RIPON HOTHFIELD
KIMBERLEY BURTON
WOLVERTON CAMOYS
BRAYE HOBHOUSE
ROSEBERY MONKSWELL
SANDHURST SYDNEY
HERSCHELL THRING
OXENBRIDGE CHESTERFIELD
HAMILTON of DALZELL GREVILLE
HOUGHTON ACTON
NORTHBOURNE ABERDARE"
HAMPDEN

House adjourned at half-past Six o'clock, till To-morrow, a quarter past Ten o'clock.