HL Deb 24 April 1884 vol 287 cc447-9
THE EARL OF FIFE,

in asking whether Her Majesty's Government had any intention of recognizing the International African Association, and whether they could give any information as to the status of this organization in S. W. Africa and its relation to the lives and trade of British subjects, disclaimed any intention of dealing with the question of the Congo Treaty, as he could not see what better arrangement could have been made unless we were prepared for wholesale annexation on the South-West Coast of Africa. He maintained that the Lower Congo, although possessing at present what little trade there was now in those regions, led practically nowhere, and that the recent labours of Mr. Stanley and Mr. Johnston abundantly proved that the real route in the future by which to reach Central Africa was the Kwilu River. The successful exploration of the Kwilu, the establishment of seven stations on the river, and the mapping out of the practical route to Stanley Pool, was accomplished last year in the name of the International African Association, a society formed eight years ago by the King of the Belgians, and which had now virtually assumed possession of a vast territory stretching from the shores of the Atlantic to the confines of the Soudan. It was the anomalous position and extraordinary constitution of that society that he was anxious to call attention to, and to inquire what official cognizance Her Majesty's Government had taken or were about to take of it. They had lately heard that the United States had decided to recognize it as a Government. Did the British Government contemplate any similar course? The founders of this peculiar organization disclaimed all national rivalries, and professed to carry on a purely philanthropic and noncommercial undertaking; but he found an intrepid American traveller extending his sway over 4,250 miles of waterway and 49,000,000 of population, supported by 13 steamers, 1,800 Natives, and some hundreds of Europeans. Was it possible that one man, aided by a few clever and adventurous spirits taken from all countries of Europe, could maintain order without some organized force, and keep up a semblance of justice over such limitless areas? On the coast it was ominously asserted that the White men considered there was no law. Could this state of things continue when the interior should have been opened to the markets of the world? What was, or what was to be, the status of that gigantic association flying its own flag over half a continent, and what powers for the defence of lives and property was it to have over British subjects whose number was likely to increase in those newly-discovered lands? It had been suggested by M. Emile de Laveleye that the Valley of the Congo should be neutralized, and an international control had also been spoken of to be established by the European Powers. It seemed to him that it was high time to secure for Great Britain some influence and share in the management of an association which, if recognized and developed, might be made to serve the ends of civilization. It would seem that the French had recently come into possession of Loango, and Black Point, south of the mouth of the Kwilu River, and considerably south of their old Possessions in the Gaboon— indeed, separated from them by the Kwilu Province, which Mr. Stanley was very anxious not to see in the hands of the French or Portuguese. In view, therefore, of the newly-acquired French Possessions, the altered Portuguese frontier, and the establishment of the International African Association as a great power covering 200 miles of the coast, it could not be denied that the position and status of that association was a matter of great importance, and on eon which it was not unreasonable to ask for some information from Her Majesty's Government.

EARL GRANVILLE

said, the noble Earl had referred to a very large, im- portant, and difficult matter, in regard to which he was not prepared to give a definite answer on the present occasion. The noble Earl had very accurately described the character of the International African Association. He understood that that Association was promoted by the King of the Belgians, not as a Sovereign, but as an individual who had carried out the scheme on philanthropic grounds with immense munificence. The Association was not altogether separated, he thought, from commercial objects, and under the energetic conduct of its leader (Mr. Stanley) very large and important results had been achieved. With regard to the recognition of the Society by Her Majesty's Government, he might say that the noble Earl had correctly referred to the recognition of it by the Government of the United States. He had himself to-day received a telegram showing that the Government of the United States had recognized the flag of the Association as that of a friendly Government. The whole question of the constitution of the Society was, of course, very important; but Her Majesty's Government had not under consideration at present the particular Question which the noble Earl had put, and they would have to go much further into detail as to the matter and the view which was held by the Government of the United States before giving any definite answer to the Question.

THE EARL OF FIFE

said, he should again call attention to the question on an early day.