HL Deb 26 April 1883 vol 278 cc1118-9

Order of the Day for the Report of Amendments to be received, read.

Moved, "That the said Report be now received."—(The Lord President.)

EARL GRANVILLE

said, he wished to draw attention to what had been said by the noble Marquess opposite the Chancellor of the University of London (the Marquess of Salisbury) on the last stage of the Bill, with regard to the University of Oxford.

THE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY

The noble Earl calls me the Chancellor of the University of London. I have not yet that honour.

EARL GRANVILLE

said, he was glad to withdraw the observation. He had received a letter from Professor Acland, with regard to the University of Oxford, which he wished to read to the House— My Lord,—I venture, with reference to the relation of Oxford to the Profession of Medicine, to which allusion was lately made in the House of Lords, to state this much to your Lordship. For medical education and for the advancement of medicine there are three quite separate parts— 1, general philosophical education, as represented by the old Literæ Humaniores; 2, the study of the natural sciences which lie at the foundation of all knowledge of diseases, whether in man or animals; and, 3, the actual study of disease itself. Formerly Oxford could only attempt the first. In the last 30 years the University has laid the foundation of complete theoretical and practical study of the second, or of biological science considered in the widest aspect; and it leaves only at present the study of disease to the vast opportunities of the Metropolitan hospitals and schools. I hope and believe, therefore, that Oxford will, in the future, supply highly trained and scientific youths to the great clinical schools in a way and to an extent she has never done before; and that, in the view of national education for the Profession of Medicine and of present changes, the influence of the University will be of great public advantage, and greater than she has ever had before. —I have, &c, H. M. ACLAND. He had not a word to say against any statement in that letter, although he still adhered to the statement which he made on a former occasion, as to the general pre-eminence of the London University with regard to medical schools.

THE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY

said, he was not disposed to dispute the claims of the London University in the matter referred to by the noble Earl opposite (Earl Granville). He believed it made successful exertions in the promotion of natural science.

Motion agreed to.

Amendments reported accordingly.