HL Deb 19 July 1859 vol 155 cc5-11
LORD STANLEY OF ALDERLEY

presented a Petition from Bankers, Merchants, and others, in favour of the Establishment of direct Lines of Submarine Telegraphs between Great Britain and Her Majesty's Possessions abroad. The noble Lord said the Petition emanated chiefly from the City of London, and was signed by the Lord Mayor, the City Members, several Aldermen, several large banking firms, and most of the great commercial and mercantile houses, who all agreed in representing the importance of our possessing telegraphic communication with our foreign possessions, independent of any other nation, and in praying their Lordships to adopt such measures as might, as far as possible, promote the establishment of direct lines of submarine telegraph between Great Britain and her possessions abroad, especially India. It was impossible, in his (Lord Stanley's) opinion, to establish communications with our colonial possessions, which should be free from interruption by any foreign Power, and should secure the transmission of messages without delay, falsification, or other interference. At present the line by which we communicated with our establishments in the Mediterranean passed through France, and in the event of a war might be cut off at pleasure. It was not three weeks since he saw an article in a French newspaper of no slight importance, that now was the time to humble perfidious Albion, and to restore Gibraltar to the Spaniards. A sudden Attack might be made upon our possessions in the Mediterranean, and it was of the utmost importance that Her Majesty's Government should have the means of receiving rapid intelligence from that quarter. The submarine electric telegraph was the medium by which such intelligence could be conveyed to the Government. We could girdle the whole world with telegraphic wires, and thus inform ourselves with lightning speed of any attack upon our possessions abroad. There were two courses by which we could obtain the inestimable advantages of tele- graphic lines of communication with our distant possessions. Her Majesty's Government could permit private individuals or companies to lay down telegraphic lines between this country and any of its Colonies under such regulations as it might think fit; or it might itself establish such lines, and commit the superintendence of them to the Post-office Department. What, in fact, was sending a message by a telegraphic wire but sending a letter by telegraph instead of by post? The Post-office Department was admirably conducted. It possessed all the requisite machinery and officers for superintending telegraphic lines, and there was no part of our possessions abroad at which there was not an English post-office agent ready to receive any telegraphic communication that might be forwarded to him. The expense of this addition to the ordinary work of the Post Office would be but trifling. He was not suggesting anything new. The whole of the telegraphic lines on the Continent were in the hands of the Continental Governments, and he believed that, instead of being a serious expense to the countries in which they were laid down, those lines were on the contrary a source of great profit. The telegraphic line which Her Majesty's Government made between Varna and the Crimea, a distance of about 400 miles, during the Russian war, answered all its purposes, and cost not much more than £30,000. This question of telegraphic communication with our foreign possessions should be seriously considered by Her Majesty's Government. He was happy to learn from the statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer last night that a sum of money had been voted this Session for the purchase of cables to form a telegraphic line between England and Gibraltar, which was to be the first part of an independent line of communication between this country and the East. Again, notwithstanding the failure of the Atlantic telegraph, he thought the attempt should be persevered in to establish a submarine telegraph communication between this country and our American colonies, taking care to keep that line entirely under our own control. Probably the best way of accomplishing works of that kind was by inviting tenders, and he trusted that if such tenders were invited Her Majesty's Government would make it known, that no unjust concessions would be made to any party, and that the contracts would be made without favour or affection.

THE EARL OF ELLENBOROUGH

said, he cordially concurred with the noble Baron in thinking it quite intolerable that this country should be dependent on foreign nations for the correct transmisssion of orders to our fleets and armies in time of war, either in the Mediterranean or any other part of the world. We ought to have in our own hands the means of independent communication, and he was glad, therefore, to hear that the present Government had taken the same view of the matter as the late Government, and had taken a sum on account for the purpose of establishing an "independent communication with Gibraltar." It was impossible to overestimate the advantage of having the means of independent communication in our hands, and of being able to move our fleets and armies at the shortest possible notice without the knowledge of any one. Those who were acquainted with the events of the war which ended in 1815, would remember that this country had been exposed to several great perils, which would have been entirely prevented by the possession of telegraphic communication. He wished, however, to draw their Lordships' attention to one point in connection with the matter. In the event of an invasion, the first points of which an enemy would endeavour to make himself master would be the points at which our telegraphic communications commenced, which at present were entirely unprotected. It would be of the greatest importance for an enemy to get possession of our telegraphic communications with Prance and the rest of the Continent. He would be able to give a false impression abroad of what occurred here, to send false orders to our troops and fleets, and ultimately to destroy our communications altogether, and rob us of the advantages which we might otherwise expect from them while he possessed his own communications. It was, therefore, of the utmost importance that we should have the means of securing their possession. He should be very glad to see a renewal of the attempt to establish telegraphic communications with America, since it would have so great an effect in drawing the two nations closer together. He thought that on the occasion of the first cable being laid, the people of the United States had indicated a strong and excellent feeling, which it was most desirable to foster. Looking forward to the future, the probability was that the two great branches of the Anglo-Saxon race would find it their interest and their honour to draw much closer the bonds which already existed between them, and with a view to the protection of their mutual interest to act according to some treaty of defensive alliance. Events were now taking place in Europe which were likely to lead to a realization of this union, to which he had looked forward for many years. It would be most desirable, though it might be very expensive, and not very remunerative, to establish a telegraphic communication with the West Coast of Africa. We had at all times on that coast a large maritime force. The "sentimental squadron," as he used to call it, for the protection of the negroes, occupied some 3,000 or 4,000 seamen, and altogether a number of seamen equal to the crews of six line-of-battle ships, whose presence at home might some day or other be very essential, were employed in looking after the interests of African negroes. The first order given at the commencement of a war ought to be that the whole of this force should spread itself out above and below the Line—along the great route of commerce— so that every mercartile vessel of the enemy should of necessity fall into our hands. It was his intention to have done that when there was a probability of war breaking out some years ago. All the stations at which telegraphic communications joined or commenced ought to be furnished with means of defence, though, considering the amount of money which had been spent on fortifications, and the little there was to show for it, the public might very likely shrink from the expense. And, while on the subject of fortifications, he would suggest to the noble Duke at the head of the Admiralty how desirable it would be that the attention of some of our principal Engineers should be directed to the practicability of applying steam power to excavating earthworks. Such an application would be of the greatest value in making docks, and of still more value if we should determine to defend our arsenals by the kind of fortifications which were carried to such an extent at Sebastopol.

EARL GRANVILLE

agreed with the two noble Lords who had preceded him as to the importance of connecting ourselves with our foreign possessions by independent lines of communication. The suggestions of the noble Earl who had just sat down were of the greatest importance, and would receive the attention of the Government. He particularly agreed with the noble Earl as to the expediency of drawing closer the bonds which unite us with America, and of encouraging in every way the good feeling which existed between the two countries. With regard to the noble Baron's question, the late Government, he believed, had formed a plan for connecting England with Malta by Gibraltar, and they had entered into a contract for the manufacture of a cable to be laid down as far as Gibraltar. There was great doubt, however, whether it was possible to lay it down this summer, and her Majesty's Government had determined not to make the attempt, though the manufacture of the cable was still being continued.

THE EARL OF ELLENBOROUGH

said, that if the cable were not laid down in six weeks it would certainly be impossible to lay it this year. As to the necessity of placing in a state of security the points from which the telegraphic lines left the shore, he had communicated with the late Duke of Wellington upon the subject, and he entirely concurred with him in the views which he had expressed. He concluded that Her Majesty's Government were taking some measures for the general defence of the coast, and he would suggest that their attention should be directed to the points at which the railways going to the east, to Dovor, and to the west touched the sea. The lines had not been drawn with any military consideration, and were exposed to the greatest peril.

THE DUKE OF SOMERSET

explained that the Government had been induced to take a few more weeks in proceeding with the Gibraltar cable to prevent failure, which was represented as the possible consequence of too great haste. Vessels had been sent out by the late Government to survey the bottom of the sea between England and Gibraltar, and it was desirable to have their reports before laying down the cable.

THE EARL OF ELLENBOROUGH

asked whether a light or a heavy description of cable had been adopted?

THE DUKE OF SOMERSET

said, it was a light cable of a new kind.

THE EARL OF ELLENBOROUGH

thought it very important that they should get a good and level bottom, even if they went out of a direct course to get it, so that, when established, the communication might be preserved.

THE EARL OF DONOUGHMORE

said, there was now a line of telegraph between Aden and Alexandria, but none between Malta and Alexandria, belonging to an English Company. The Red Sea Telegraph, under certain circumstances, would, therefore, be practically useless for Government purposes. He wished to know whether the Government intended to take any steps to establish a telegraphic line between Malta and Alexandria.

LORD WODEHOUSE

said, it was with the Turkish Government the difficulty originated of laying down a line of telegraphic communication between Malta and Alexandria. That difficulty had not yet been removed; but Her Majesty's Government were still in communication with the Government of the Porte upon the subject. It appeared that the Turkish Government had made to certain parties the concession of an exclusive right of laying down such a line; but the matter was, it seemed, still open for consideration.

VISCOUNT STRATFORD DE RED-CLIFFE

said, he was prepared to support the general prayer of the petition which had just been presented to the House; but after the able address of the noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Ellenborough) and the satisfactory explanation of his noble Friend the President of the Council, he did not think it necessary to trespass at any length on their Lordships' time. It could hardly be doubted that submarine telegraphs, having their point of departure in England and enabling us to communicate with our distant settlements in a manner at once the most direct and the least liable to interruption, would be of great advantage both to the Government and to the nation. During the period of his official residence in Constantinople he had become deeply impressed with the importance not only of our establishing a telegraphic communication with the East, but of our having as many alternative lines as possible. He saw, moreover, the importance of our possessing the means of defending the point of departure in the case of our adopting a system of submarine telegraphs from this country, and it would be extremely desirable that a similar security should, if possible, be obtained for the termination of the line in Egypt, though he could not be blind to the difficulty of obtaining that object. The whole subject was one of deep interest, and the country would, in his opinion, be justified in incurring a very consideable outlay for a more complete attainment of the proposed results.

THE EARL OF ELLENBOROUGH

said, that the difficulty of obtaining security for the station at Suez had already occurred to him. It appeared to him that it would be better the station should be some miles removed from Suez.