HL Deb 30 July 1850 vol 113 cc482-4
The EARL of WICKLOW

wished to obtain some information on a subject of no slight importance from Her Majesty's Government. Their Lordships would have seen, from the public journals, that five British fishing vessels had been recently taken into the port of Dieppe by the French cruisers. If he had been rightly informed, their capture had not arisen our of any ordinary cause, but out of a novel cause of no small importance. There was a treaty, he believed, between the two countries, that the fishery of each country should be limited to a distance of five miles from the coast of the other. A most important discovery had been recently made of oyster beds between Brighton and Dieppe. The English fishermen had fished upon those beds to a great extent; and the consequence was, that at the present moment the English markets were as amply supplied with oysters as at any other period of the year. These oysters were an inferior fish, but were as fully in season. He was informed that nothing had prevented these oyster-beds from being fully fished by the English fishermen except the injury which it was supposed it would inflict on the oyster fisheries of Essex. He had been informed that two of our fishing vessels had been chased from these grounds and fired into by a French cruiser, and that some had been actually taken, and carried into Dieppe as prisoners, by the French authorities. He knew that the attention of the noble Viscount the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs had been called to this point; that, however, which he wanted to know was, whether any treaty or any convention had been entered into between the two Powers to save the lives of English fishermen from injury, and to protect their vessels from capture. The evil, he was sorry to say, was on the increase; and the English fishermen were determined not to be prevented from enjoying the treasure which had recently been discovered. The consequence would be, that the French would increase their force of cruisers to protect what they considered to be their own grounds. He therefore hoped that the noble Marquess would give the House some assurance that something would be done to prevent the recurrence of this evil.

The MARQUESS of LANSDOWNE

hoped that the answer which he was about to give to the question of his noble Friend would be quite satisfactory. It was probably known to their Lordships that there had been some trouble, discontent, and dispute respecting the fisheries on the coasts of two nations so near to each other as were the coasts of England and France. A treaty to adjust those discontents and disputes had been concluded between the two Governments in the year 1838, and it had so far succeeded that, although it did not entirely prevent quarrels from arising, they had not led to any mischievous consequences, but had been accommodated successfully to the claims of both nations. The fisheries were not to be fished by foreign fishermen within three miles of the respective coasts of either country, with one exception, which had arisen out of an immemorial usage. On arriving at a particular point in the mid-channel between Jersey and France, which was not laid down on any map, or by any geographical line, but which was well known to the fishermen of both countries, a particular field was assigned, where the fishermen of neither country were to fish. It was on this particular field that the difficulty to which the noble Lord had alluded, had recently arisen. He believed that it was a difficulty which would soon adjust itself, as similar difficulties had adjusted themselves which had formerly arisen; as, for instance, when a fisherman of cither country was found trespassing on the fishing grounds of the other, he was carried into the nearest port of the country on which he had trespassed, and his offence was there decided on by the ordinary magistrates. The decisions followed the law of the respective countries. Up to this time the English fishermen had been trespassing occasionally on the French coasts, as the French had been trespassing on ours. The particular difficulty in this case had arisen from the discovery of a large oyster-bed in the ground which the fishermen of neither country had been allowed to approach. He did not know whether the oysters had had any secret intelligence of that fact; but it was undeniable that they had accumulated upon that spot, and had thus afforded an irresistible temptation to the fishermen both of England and France. He knew no reason why, on being caught trespassing, they should not be carried, as on former occasions, before the magistrates of the two countries. No report had been received from our Consul at Dieppe, and there was at present no reason to suppose that any injustice had been done.

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