HL Deb 12 February 1850 vol 108 cc709-11
LORD STANLEY

had to present to their Lordships two petitions from the Cape of Good Hope, one signed by 4,000 persons, the other from the district of Port Elizabeth, signed by 8,000. The petitioners entered at considerable length into the case of the convicts sent out from this country. It was not his intention to refer to the Order in Council, or the conduct of Government concerning it, inasmuch as he believed it had been withdrawn in deference to the unanimous feeling of the colonists. He would only express his regret that the order should have been issued before it was ascertained that the colonists were willing to receive the convicts, thereby placing the Government in a very inconvenient situation. He hoped that no attempt would be made to renew the order, and should wish to hear an assurance to that effect from the noble Earl opposite.

EARL GREY

had no difficulty whatever in giving the noble Lord the assurance he required. He could not conceive that there could exist, under present circumstances, any intention of again passing an Order of Council on this subject. As the whole course of the Government was fully explained in the despatches laid on the table, which, he believed, had now been distributed, he should follow the noble Lord's example in abtaining from comments, adding only one observation with reference to the passing of the Order in Council, that it was not intended to act upon it, except in one special and particular case, until the sentiments of the inhabitants of the Cape of Good Hope had been ascertained. It would be seen by those despatchss, that Her Majesty's Government were placed in a situation of extreme embarrassment with respect to the disposal of certain convicts who were at Bermuda, having been sent there in consequence of offences committed during the unfortunate famine which had prevailed in Ireland. The objections to sending them to any other colony were extreme, and the course adopted was considered upon the whole the least objectionable of any. But, undoubtedly, it was never contemplated by Her Majesty's Government to establish, as a regular system, the practice of sending convicts to a colony not originally established as a convict colony, without the consent of the great body of the inhabitants.

LORD BROUGHAM

must again enter his protest against the conduct of the inhabitants at the Cape of Good Hope. A most unjustifiable course, he felt bound to say, was pursued by them. It was neither more nor less than harsh and cruel to treat in this way persons who, though criminal, were suffering a most cruel punishment, having been already confined for three months on board ship.

LORD STANLEY

certainly thought the colonists had gone far beyond what they were justified in doing, and did not mean to vindicate their conduct in all points.

The EARL of ELLENBOROUGH

wished to draw attention to one circumstance connected with the lot of the persons whose transportation had produced such extreme excitement at the Cape. The captain of a ship engaged by contract to carry convicts to their destination was bound to have on board a quantity of provisions and water far exceeding the probable consumption of those on board. In this case it appeared that whilst the ship lay at the Cape, the water was expended, and only 4001bs. of beef remained, there being hardly any other provision on board. Had there been a gale off the Cape, the probability was that every one of these persons would have died of famine.

EARL GREY

did not know that there was any reason to find fault with the manner in which the contract had been performed in this case. Very probably the small quantity of provisions on board was to be accounted for by the extraordinary long passage of the vessel, which, on many accounts, was most unfortunate. The ship left Bermuda on the 22nd April, and arrived at the Cape of Good Hope on the 19th September, a period very considerably longer than the average passage from this country to New South Wales.

Petitions to lie on the table.

House adjourned to Thursday.