§ Lords amendment: No. 416, in page 170, line 51, at end insert—
§ ("(1B) After the section 52A inserted by sub-paragraph (1A) above, there shall be inserted—
§ ("(1B) After the section 52A inserted by sub-paragraph (1A) above, there shall be inserted—
§ "Power to substitute obligations under this section for liabilities under s.52(1).
§ 52B.—(1) The Minister may make a substitution order in relation to any occupational pension scheme—
- (a) which is a new scheme, within the meaning of Schedule 10 to the Railways Act 1993;
- (b) which is designated under paragraph 9(1) of that Schedule (designation of schemes which are to be treated as B.R. pension schemes for certain purposes of this Part); and
- (c) in relation to which a guarantee has been given by the Secretary of State under paragraph 9A of that Schedule;
§ (2) The Minister may also make a substitution order in relation to any section of a new scheme, within the meaning of Schedule 10 to the Railways Act 1993, if the section is one—
- (a) which is designated under paragraph 9(1) of that Schedule; and
- (b) in relation to which a guarantee has been given by the Secretary of State under paragraph 9A of that Schedule;
§ (3) For the purposes of this section, a "substitution order" is an order under this section the effect of which is—
- (a) to terminate, from the termination date, the Minister's liability to make to the persons administering the guaranteed pension scheme in question payments under section 52(1) in relation to the scheme; and
- (b) to impose on the Minister, in substitution for that liability, an obligation to make to those persons, subject to and in accordance with the following provisions of this section, one or more other payments (the "substitution payments") in relation to that scheme.
§ (4) Subject to the following provisions of this section, the amount of the substitution payments to be made in the case of a guaranteed pension scheme shall be equal in the aggregate to the sum of—
- (a) the amount specified pursuant to subsection (5)(a) as the capital value of the unfunded obligations in the case of the scheme; and
- (b) the aggregate amount of any interest which is dealt with as mentioned in subsection (8)(b)(ii) in the case of the scheme.
§ (5) A substitution order must specify—
- (a) the capital value of the unfunded obligations in the case of the guaranteed pension scheme in question, as at the termination date; and
- (b) the date which, for the purposes of this section, is to be the termination date in relation to that scheme, being a date not earlier than one month after the coming into force of the substitution order.
§ (6) Any determination for the purposes of this section of the capital value of the unfunded obligations in the case of a guaranteed pension scheme shall either—
- (a) be made by the Minister; or
- (b) if the Minister so requires in the particular case, be made by the actuary to the guaranteed pension scheme in question and approved by the Minister.
§ (7) A substitution order may specify—
- (a) the amount or amounts, or the method of determining the amount or amounts, of the substitution payments,
- (b) the date or dates on which the substitution payments are to be made,
- (c) circumstances (which may, if the Minister so desires, be defined by reference to the opinion of any person) in which substitution payments are to be made,
§ (8) A substitution order must provide—
- (a) for interest to accrue from the termination date on the outstanding balance of the capital value for the time being at such rate, and at such intervals, as may be specified in, or determined under or in accordance with, the order; and
- (b) for any such interest which accrues—
- (i) to be paid to the persons administering the guaranteed pension scheme in question, or
- (ii) to be added to the outstanding balance of the capital value,
§ (9) For the purposes of subsection (8), the "outstanding balance of the capital value", in the case of a guaranteed pension scheme, means the capital value of the unfunded obligations in the case of the scheme, as specified pursuant to subsection (5)(a), —
- (a) reduced by the amount of any substitution payments made in relation to that scheme; and
- (b) increased by any additions of accrued interest under or by virtue of subsection (8)(b)(ii) in relation to that scheme.
§ (10) Nothing in this section affects the liability of the Board in respect of any relevant pension obligations.
§ (11) Any sums required for the making of payments under this section by the Minister shall be paid out of money provided by Parliament.
§ (12) In this section—
- "the capital value of the unfunded obligations", in the case of any guaranteed pension scheme, means such amount as is, in the opinion of the person determining that capital value pursuant to subsection (6), the capital equivalent of the payments that would, apart from this section, have been expected to be made by the Minister under section 52(1) in relation to that scheme after the termination date in the case of that scheme;
- "occupational pension scheme" means an occupational pension scheme as defined in section 1 of the Pension Schemes Act 1993;
- "the terminal period", in the case of any guaranteed pension scheme, means—
- (a) if a financial year of the scheme ends with the termination date, that financial year; or
- (b) in any other case, so much of the financial year of the scheme in which the termination date falls as ends with that date;
- "the termination date", in the case of any guaranteed pension scheme, shall be construed in accordance with subsection (5)(b);
- "the termination year", in the case of any guaranteed pension scheme, means the financial year of the scheme which consists of or includes the terminal period;
- "trustees", in relation to a guaranteed pension scheme, includes a reference to any persons who, under the rules of the scheme, are under a liability to provide pensions or other benefits but who are not trustees of the scheme.
§ Adjustments arising in connection with orders under s.52B.
§ 52C.—(1) As soon as practicable after the termination date in the case of any guaranteed pension scheme, there shall be determined, for the terminal period, what proportion of the pensions, increases and expenses payable under, or incurred in connection with, the scheme corresponds to the relevant pension obligations.
§ (2) Any determination under subsection (1) shall either—
- (a) be made by the Minister; or
- (b) if the Minister so requires in the particular case, be made by the actuary or auditor to the guaranteed pension scheme in question and approved by the Minister.
§ (3) The Minister may give a direction to the persons administering a guaranteed pension scheme requiring them to determine the aggregate amount of the pensions, increases and expenses payable under or incurred in connection with the scheme for the terminal period or the termination year and to notify him in writing of their determination.
§ (4) As respects the termination year of a guaranteed pension scheme, the extent of the liability of the Minister to make payments under section 52(1) in relation to that scheme shall be restricted to a liability to make payments of an amount (the "termination year amount") equal in the aggregate to the product of—
- (a) the proportion determined under section 54(1) for that scheme;
- (b) the proportion determined pursuant to subsection (1) in the case of that scheme; and
- (c) the aggregate amount of the pensions, increases and expenses payable under or incurred in connection with that scheme in the terminal period;
§ (5) Where, in the case of a guaranteed pension scheme, the funding of the relevant pension obligations has, by virtue of subsection (3) of section 54, been left out of account in making a determination under subsection (1) of that section, the termination year amount in the case of that scheme shall be the difference between—
- (a) what that amount would have been, apart from this subsection; and
- (b) the amount of any income accruing for the terminal period which may be applied towards the payment of such of the pensions, increases and expenses payable under or incurred in connection with the scheme as correspond to those obligations.
§ (6) The Minister may give a direction to the persons administering a guaranteed pension scheme requiring them to determine the amount mentioned in subsection (5)(b) and to notify him in writing of their determination.
§ (7) Where payments by way of adjustment fall to be made, interest shall be payable, as from the termination date, by the person liable to make those payments, at the rates and intervals from time to time applicable for the purposes of section 52B(8)(a) in the case of the scheme in question, on so much of the aggregate amount of the payments in question as for the time being remains unpaid.
§ (8) So much of—
- (a) any payment by way of adjustment which falls to be made, or
- (b) any interest accrued under subsection (7),
§ (9) Any sums required for the making of payments under this section by the Minister shall be paid out of money provided by Parliament.
296§ (10) In this section, "payments by way of adjustment", in the case of a guaranteed pension scheme, means—
- (a) if the Minister has made payments under section 52(1) in relation to that scheme for the termination year which, in the aggregate, exceed the termination year amount, payment to the Minister by the persons administering the scheme of an amount equal to the excess;
- (b) if the Minister has made no payments under section 52(1) in relation to that scheme for the termination year, payment by the Minister to those persons of the termination year amount; or
- (c) if the Minister has made payments under section 52(1) in relation to that scheme for the termination year which, in the aggregate, fall short of the termination year amount, payment by the Minister to those persons of an amount equal to the shortfall.
§ (11) Expressions used in this section and in section 52B have the same meaning in this section as they have in that section. Orders and directions under sections 52A to 52C: supplemental.
§ 52D.—(1) Any power to make an order under section 52B shall be exercisable by statutory instrument made by the Minister after consultation with the trustees of the guaranteed pension scheme to which the order relates.
§ (2) The Minister shall not lay before Parliament a statutory instrument containing an order under section 52B unless he has first obtained the written agreement of those trustees that it is appropriate in the circumstances for the order to be made.
§ (3) A statutory instrument containing an order under section 52B shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.
§ (4) At the time when a statutory instrument containing an order under section 52B is laid before each House of Parliament pursuant to subsection (3), the Minister shall, if he has not already done so, also lay before each House of Parliament a copy of the guarantee mentioned in subsection (1)(c) of that section; but this subsection is without prejudice to the validity of the order in question.
§ (5) Any power to make an order under section 52B includes power, exercisable in the same manner, to make such incidental, supplemental, consequential or transitional provision as may appear necessary or expedient to the Minister.
§ (6) Any order under section 52B may make different provision for different cases or for different classes or descriptions of case.
§ (7) It shall be the duty of any person to whom a direction is given under section 52A or 52C to comply with and give effect to that direction; and compliance with any such direction shall be enforceable by civil proceedings by the Minister for an injunction or interdict or for any other appropriate relief.
§ (8) Any power to give a direction under section 52A or 52C includes power to vary or revoke the direction.
§ (9) Any direction under section 52A or 52C shall be given in writing.
§ (10) In this section—
- "guaranteed pension scheme" has the same meaning as in section 52B;
- "trustees", in relation to a guaranteed pension scheme, has the same meaning as in section 52B."")
§ Amendment proposed to the Lords amendment:(a), to leave out lines 254 to 258.—[Mr. MacGregor.]
§ Question put, That the amendment to the Lords amendment be made: —
§ The House divided: Ayes 314, Noes 132.
299| Division No. 384] | [12.13 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Amess, David |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Ancram, Michael |
| Alexander, Richard | Arbuthnot, James |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) |
| Ashby, David | Fabricant, Michael |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas |
| Atkins, Robert | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Forman, Nigel |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Baldry, Tony | Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S) |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Forth, Eric |
| Bates, Michael | Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman |
| Batiste, Spencer | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Beggs, Roy | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Bendall, Vivian | French, Douglas |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Fry, Peter |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Gale, Roger |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Gallie, Phil |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Booth, Hartley | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Boswell, Tim | Garnier, Edward |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Gill, Christopher |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Bowden, Andrew | Goodlad, Rt Hon Alastair |
| Bowis, John | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Gorst, John |
| Brazier, Julian | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Bright, Graham | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Hague, William |
| Burns, Simon | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Burt, Alistair | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Butcher, John | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Butler, Peter | Hannam, Sir John |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Harris, David |
| Carrington, Matthew | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hawkins, Nick |
| Cash, William | Hawksley, Warren |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hayes, Jerry |
| Churchill, Mr | Heald, Oliver |
| Clappison, James | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Hendry, Charles |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Coe, Sebastian | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) |
| Colvin, Michael | Horam, John |
| Congdon, David | Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter |
| Conway, Derek | Howard, Rt Hon Michael |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Cormack, Patrick | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Couchman, James | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Cran, James | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Hunter, Andrew |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Jack, Michael |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Day, Stephen | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Jessel, Toby |
| Devlin, Tim | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Dicks, Terry | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Dover, Den | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Duncan, Alan | Key, Robert |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Dunn, Bob | King, Rt Hon Tom |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Dykes, Hugh | Knapman, Roger |
| Elletson, Harold | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) | Knox, Sir David |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Evennett, David | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Faber, David | Lamont, Rt Hon Norman |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Legg, Barry | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Leigh, Edward | Sackville, Tom |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim |
| Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Lidington, David | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Lightbown, David | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Lilley, Rt Hon Peter | Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Lord, Michael | Shersby, Michael |
| Luff, Peter | Sims, Roger |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| MacKay, Andrew | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Maclean, David | Soames, Nicholas |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Madel, David | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Malone, Gerald | Spring, Richard |
| Mans, Keith | Sproat, Iain |
| Marland, Paul | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Marlow, Tony | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Steen, Anthony |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Stephen, Michael |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Stern, Michael |
| Mates, Michael | Stewart, Allan |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Streeter, Gary |
| Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick | Sumberg, David |
| Mellor, Rt Hon David | Sweeney, Walter |
| Merchant, Piers | Sykes, John |
| Milligan, Stephen | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Mills, Iain | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Molyneaux, Rt Hon James | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Thomason, Roy |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Moss, Malcolm | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Needham, Richard | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Nelson, Anthony | Thurnham, Peter |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Tracey, Richard |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Tredinnick, David |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Trend, Michael |
| Norris, Steve | Trotter, Neville |
| O'Neill, Martin | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Ottaway, Richard | Viggers, Peter |
| Page, Richard | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Paice, James | Walker, A. Cecil (Belfast N) |
| Patnick, Irvine | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Patten, Rt Hon John | Waller, Gary |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Ward, John |
| Pawsey, James | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Waterson, Nigel |
| Pickles, Eric | Watts, John |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Wells, Bowen |
| Portillo, Rt Hon Michael | Whitney, Ray |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Whittingdale, John |
| Rathbone, Tim | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Redwood, Rt Hon John | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim | Willetts, David |
| Richards, Rod | Wilshire, David |
| Riddick, Graham | Wolfson, Mark |
| Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm | Wood, Timothy |
| Robathan, Andrew | Yeo, Tim |
| Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) | |
| Robinson, Mark (Somerton) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) | Mr. Sydney Chapman and |
| Ross, William (E Londonderry) | Mr. Andrew Mitchell. |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Banks, Tony (Newham NW) |
| Allen, Graham | Barnes, Harry |
| Alton, David | Bayley, Hugh |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Beith, Rt Hon A. J. |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Bermingham, Gerald | McAllion, John |
| Betts, Clive | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Boyce, Jimmy | Macdonald, Calum |
| Bradley, Keith | McFall, John |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | McKelvey, William |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Maclennan, Robert |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | McMaster, Gordon |
| Cann, Jamie | McWilliam, John |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Madden, Max |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Clelland, David | Marek, Dr John |
| Coffey, Ann | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Connarty, Michael | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Martlew, Eric |
| Corbett, Robin | Maxton, John |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Meacher, Michael |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Meale, Alan |
| Cox, Tom | Michael, Alun |
| Cummings, John | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Miller, Andrew |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Morley, Elliot |
| Dafis, Cynog | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Davidson, Ian | O'Hara, Edward |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Olner, William |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Denham, John | Parry, Robert |
| Dewar, Donald | Pendry, Tom |
| Dixon, Don | Pickthall, Colin |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Pike, Peter L. |
| Enright, Derek | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Etherington, Bill | Prescott, John |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Purchase, Ken |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Raynsford, Nick |
| Foulkes, George | Reid, Dr John |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Rendel, David |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Robertson, George (Hamilton) |
| Gordon, Mildred | Rooker, Jeff |
| Graham, Thomas | Rooney, Terry |
| Grocott, Bruce | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Gunnell, John | Short, Clare |
| Hain, Peter | Simpson, Alan |
| Hall, Mike | Snape, Peter |
| Hanson, David | Spearing, Nigel |
| Harvey, Nick | Spellar, John |
| Heppell, John | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Hoey, Kate | Turner, Dennis |
| Home Robertson, John | Tyler, Paul |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Wallace, James |
| Hoyle, Doug | Walley, Joan |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Wareing, Robert N |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Watson, Mike |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) | Wilson, Brian |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Winnick, David |
| Kennedy, Charles (Ross,C&S) | Wise, Audrey |
| Khabra, Piara S. | Wray, Jimmy |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Lewis, Terry | Mr. Dennis Skinner and |
| Livingstone, Ken | Mr. Bob Cryer. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment, as amended:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 307, Noes 111.
302| Division No. 385] | [12.25 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Arbuthnot, James |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) |
| Alexander, Richard | Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Ashby, David |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Aspinwall, Jack |
| Amess, David | Atkins, Robert |
| Ancram, Michael | Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Forman, Nigel |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Baldry, Tony | Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S) |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Forth, Eric |
| Bates, Michael | Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman |
| Batiste, Spencer | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Beggs, Roy | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Bendall, Vivian | French, Douglas |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Fry, Peter |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Gale, Roger |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Gallie, Phil |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Booth, Hartley | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Boswell, Tim | Garnier, Edward |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Gill, Christopher |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Bowden, Andrew | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Bowis, John | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Gorst, John |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Brazier, Julian | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Bright, Graham | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Hague, William |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Burns, Simon | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Burt, Alistair | Hannam, Sir John |
| Butcher, John | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Butler, Peter | Harris, David |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Hawkins, Nick |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hawksley, Warren |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hayes, Jerry |
| Cash, William | Heald, Oliver |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Churchill, Mr | Hendry, Charles |
| Clappison, James | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Horam, John |
| Coe, Sebastian | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Colvin, Michael | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Congdon, David | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Conway, Derek | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Hunter, Andrew |
| Cormack, Patrick | Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Couchman, James | Jack, Michael |
| Cran, James | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Jessel, Toby |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Day, Stephen | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Devlin, Tim | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Dicks, Terry | Key, Robert |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Dover, Den | Knapman, Roger |
| Duncan, Alan | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Dunn, Bob | Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Knox, Sir David |
| Dykes, Hugh | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Elletson, Harold | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | Lamont, Rt Hon Norman |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | Lang, Rt Hon Ian |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) | Lawrence, Sir Ivan |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Legg, Barry |
| Evennett, David | Leigh, Edward |
| Faber, David | Lennox-Boyd, Mark |
| Fabricant, Michael | Lidington, David |
| Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas | Lightbown, David |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Lord, Michael | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Luff, Peter | Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Shersby, Michael |
| MacKay, Andrew | Sims, Roger |
| Maclean, David | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Madel, David | Soames, Nicholas |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Malone, Gerald | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Mans, Keith | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Marland, Paul | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Marlow, Tony | Spring, Richard |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Sproat, Iain |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Steen, Anthony |
| Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick | Stephen, Michael |
| Mellor, Rt Hon David | Stern, Michael |
| Merchant, Piers | Stewart, Allan |
| Milligan, Stephen | Streeter, Gary |
| Mills, Iain | Sumberg, David |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Sweeney, Walter |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Sykes, John |
| Molyneaux, Rt Hon James | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Needham, Richard | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Nelson, Anthony | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Thomason, Roy |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Thurnham, Peter |
| Norris, Steve | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Tracey, Richard |
| Ottaway, Richard | Tredinnick, David |
| Page, Richard | Trend, Michael |
| Paice, James | Trotter, Neville |
| Patnick, Irvine | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Patten, Rt Hon John | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Viggers, Peter |
| Pawsey, James | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Walker, A. Cecil (Belfast N) |
| Pickles, Eric | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Waller, Gary |
| Portillo, Rt Hon Michael | Ward, John |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Rathbone, Tim | Waterson, Nigel |
| Redwood, Rt Hon John | Watts, John |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim | Wells, Bowen |
| Richards, Rod | Whitney, Ray |
| Riddick, Graham | Whittingdale, John |
| Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Robathan, Andrew | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn | Wilkinson, John |
| Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) | Willetts, David |
| Robinson, Mark (Somerton) | Wilshire, David |
| Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Ross, William (E Londonderry) | Wood, Timothy |
| Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) | Yeo, Tim |
| Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Ryder, Rt Hon Richard | |
| Sackville, Tom | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim | Mr. Sydney Chapman and |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Mr. Andrew Mitchell. |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Boyce, Jimmy |
| Allen, Graham | Bradley, Keith |
| Alton, David | Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) |
| Barnes, Harry | Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) |
| Bayley, Hugh | Cann, Jamie |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) |
| Berts, Clive | Clelland, David |
| Coffey, Ann | McKelvey, William |
| Connarty, Michael | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Corbett, Robin | Maclennan, Robert |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | McMaster, Gordon |
| Cox, Tom | McWilliam, John |
| Cryer, Bob | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Cummings, John | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Dafis, Cynog | Martlew, Eric |
| Davidson, Ian | Michael, Alun |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Miller, Andrew |
| Denham, John | Morley, Elliot |
| Dewar, Donald | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Dixon, Don | Olner, William |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Parry, Robert |
| Etherington, Bill | Pickthall, Colin |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret | Pike, Peter L. |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Prescott, John |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Purchase, Ken |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Reid, Dr John |
| Gordon, Mildred | Rendel, David |
| Graham, Thomas | Robertson, George (Hamilton) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Short, Clare |
| Gunnell, John | Simpson, Alan |
| Hall, Mike | Skinner, Dennis |
| Hanson, David | Snape, Peter |
| Harvey, Nick | Spearing, Nigel |
| Henderson, Doug | Spellar, John |
| Heppell, John | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Hoey, Kate | Turner, Dennis |
| Home Robertson, John | Tyler, Paul |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Walley, Joan |
| Hoyle, Doug | Wareing, Robert N |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Watson, Mike |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Welsh, Andrew |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Wilson, Brian |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | Winnick, David |
| Lewis, Terry | Wise, Audrey |
| Livingstone, Ken | Wray, Jimmy |
| Lynne, Ms Liz | |
| McAllion, John | Tellers for the Noes: |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Dr. John Marek and |
| Macdonald, Calum | Mr. Andrew F. Bennett. |
| McFall, John |
§ Question accordingly agreed to. [Special Entry.]
§
Lords amendment: No. 423, in page 173, line 26, at end insert—
("Government guarantees to trustees of certain new schemes
§ 9A.—(1) Subject to the following provisions of this paragraph, the Secretary of State—
- (a) shall give to the trustees of any new scheme which satisfies the conditions in sub-paragraph (3) below, and
- (b) may give to the trustees of any new scheme which satisfies the conditions in sub-paragraph (4) below,
§ (2)This paragraph applies in relation to a section of a new scheme as it applies in relation to a new scheme; and any reference in this paragraph to a new scheme, a closed scheme, a pension scheme or a member shall be construed accordingly.
§ (3)A new scheme satisfies the conditions in this sub-paragraph if—
- (a) all the members of the scheme are persons whose pension rights under the scheme are pension rights which have been transferred, so as to become pension rights under that scheme, pursuant to an order under paragraph 4 above; and
- (b) the rules of the scheme prevent any member of the scheme from being a participant in the scheme.
§ (4) A new scheme satisfies the conditions in this sub-paragraph if—
- (a) the scheme is a closed scheme; and
- (b) at the date on which the scheme becomes a closed scheme, all the members of the scheme are—
- (i) participants in the scheme to whom pension rights under the scheme are accruing by virtue of their employment with a relevant employer; or
- (ii) pensioners or deferred pensioners under the scheme whose pension rights under the scheme derive in whole or in part from their, or some other person's, participation in an occupational pension scheme as an employee of a relevant employer.
§ (5) Classes or descriptions of person may be prescribed whose membership of, or participation in, a new scheme is to be disregarded for the purpose of determining whether the new scheme satisfies the conditions in sub-paragraph (3) or (4) above.
§ (6) The power to give a guarantee under sub-paragraph (1)(b) above becomes exercisable in the case of any new scheme if the Secretary of State is of the opinion that it is desirable to give such a guarantee for the purpose of ensuring that the trustees of the scheme are, or will be, able to meet their liabilities to make payments in respect of pension rights under the scheme as those liabilities fall to be met.
§ (7) The Secretary of State shall consider any representations made by the trustees of a new scheme which satisfies the conditions in sub-paragraph (4) above concerning their ability to meet their liabilities to make payments in respect of pension rights under the scheme.
§ (8) Any guarantee under this paragraph shall be given in such manner, and on such terms and conditions, as the Secretary of State thinks fit; and, without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing provisions of this sub-paragraph, the terms and conditions on which a guarantee under this paragraph may be given include terms and conditions—
- (a) with respect to any matter relating to payment under the guarantee, including—
- (i) the circumstances in which payment under the guarantee falls to be made;
- (ii) the amounts, or the method of determining the amounts, of any payments that fall to be so made;
- (iii) the persons to whom any such payments are to be made;
- (b) with respect to any matter relating to the management, affairs or winding up of the scheme, including—
- (i) the policy to be followed in relation to the investment of assets held for the purposes of the scheme; and
- (ii) the distribution of any surplus which may arise under the scheme; or
- (c) requiring or precluding, or otherwise with respect to, amendment of the rules of the scheme;
§ (9) Any sums required by the Secretary of State to fulfil a guarantee given under this section shall be paid out of money provided by Parliament.
§ (10) In this paragraph—
- "closed scheme" means a pension scheme—
- (a) to which no new members are to be admitted; but
- (b) under which pensions and other benefits continue to be provided;
- "deferred pensioner", in the case of any pension scheme, means a person who has pension rights under the scheme but who (so far as relating to those pension rights) is neither a participant in the scheme nor a pensioner under the scheme;
- "relevant employer" means—
- (a) the Board;
- (b) a wholly owned subsidiary of the Board; or
- (c) a publicly owned railway company, other than a company which is wholly owned by the Franchising Director.")
§ Amendment proposed to the Lords amendment: (b), in line 49, leave out 'thinks' and insert 'may, after consultation with the trustees of, and the actuary to, the scheme in question, think'.—[Mr. MacGregor.]
§ Question put, That the amendment to the Lords amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 323, Noes 100.
306| Division No. 386] | [12.40 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Day, Stephen |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Alexander, Richard | Devlin, Tim |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Dicks, Terry |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Amess, David | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Ancram, Michael | Dover, Den |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Duncan, Alan |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Ashby, David | Dunn, Bob |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Atkins, Robert | Dykes, Hugh |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Elletson, Harold |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Baldry, Tony | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Evennett, David |
| Bates, Michael | Faber, David |
| Batiste, Spencer | Fabricant, Michael |
| Beggs, Roy | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Bellingham, Henry | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Forman, Nigel |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S) |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Forth, Eric |
| Booth, Hartley | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Boswell, Tim | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | French, Douglas |
| Bowden, Andrew | Fry, Peter |
| Bowis, John | Gale, Roger |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Gallie, Phil |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Brazier, Julian | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Bright, Graham | Garnier, Edward |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Gill, Christopher |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Burns, Simon | Gorst, John |
| Burl, Alistair | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Butler, Peter | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Carrington, Matthew | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hague, William |
| Cash, William | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Churchill, Mr | Hannam, Sir John |
| Clappison, James | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Harris, David |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Coe, Sebastian | Hawkins, Nick |
| Colvin, Michael | Hawksley, Warren |
| Congdon, David | Hayes, Jerry |
| Conway, Derek | Heald, Oliver |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Hendry, Charles |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Couchman, James | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) |
| Cran, James | Horam, John |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Howarth, Alan (Strafrd-on-A) |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Hunt, Sir John (Ravensboume) | Pickles, Eric |
| Hunter, Andrew | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Jack, Michael | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Rathbone, Tim |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Redwood, Rt Hon John |
| Jessel, Toby | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Richards, Rod |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Riddick, Graham |
| Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Robathan, Andrew |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Key, Robert | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Knapman, Roger | Ross, William (E Londonderry) |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Knox, Sir David | Sackville, Tom |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Lamont, Rt Hon Norman | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian |
| Legg, Barry | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Leigh, Edward | Shersby, Michael |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Sims, Roger |
| Lidington, David | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Lightbown, David | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Lilley, Rt Hon Peter | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Soames, Nicholas |
| Lord, Michael | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Luff, Peter | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Spink, Dr Robert |
| MacKay, Andrew | Spring, Richard |
| Maclean, David | Sproat, Iain |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Madel, David | Steen, Anthony |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Stephen, Michael |
| Malone, Gerald | Stern, Michael |
| Mans, Keith | Stewart, Allan |
| Marland, Paul | Streeter, Gary |
| Marlow, Tony | Sumberg, David |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Sweeney, Walter |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Sykes, John |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Mellor, Rt Hon David | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Merchant, Piers | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Milligan, Stephen | Thomason, Roy |
| Mills, Iain | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Thurnham, Peter |
| Molyneaux, Rt Hon James | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Tracey, Richard |
| Moss, Malcolm | Tredinnick, David |
| Needham, Richard | Trend, Michael |
| Nelson, Anthony | Trotter, Neville |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Viggers, Peter |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Walker, A. Cecil (Belfast N) |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Norris, Steve | Waller, Gary |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Ward, John |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Ottaway, Richard | Waterson, Nigel |
| Page, Richard | Watts, John |
| Paice, James | Wells, Bowen |
| Patnick, Irvine | Whitney, Ray |
| Patten, Rt Hon John | Whittingdale, John |
| Pattle, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Pawsey, James | Wiggln, Sir Jerry |
| Wilkinson, John | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Willetts, David | |
| Wilshire, David | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Wolfson, Mark | Mr. James Arbuthnot and |
| Wood, Timothy | Mr. Michael Brown. |
| Yeo, Tim | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) |
| Allen, Graham | Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) |
| Alton, David | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Livingstone, Ken |
| Barnes, Harry | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Bayley, Hugh | McAllion, John |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | Macdonald, Calum |
| Betts, Clive | McFall, John |
| Boyce, Jimmy | McKelvey, William |
| Bradley, Keith | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | Maclennan, Robert |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | McMaster, Gordon |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | McWilliam, John |
| Cann, Jamie | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Marek, Dr John |
| Coffey, Ann | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Connarty, Michael | Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S) |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Corbett, Robin | Martlew, Eric |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Meale, Alan |
| Cox, Tom | Michael, Alun |
| Cryer, Bob | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Cummings, John | Miller, Andrew |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Morley, Elliot |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Dafis, Cynog | Olner, William |
| Davidson, Ian | Parry, Robert |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Pickthall, Colin |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Denham, John | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Dewar, Donald | Prescott, John |
| Dixon, Don | Purchase, Ken |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Reid, Dr John |
| Etherington, Bill | Rendel, David |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret | Skinner, Dennis |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Spellar, John |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Graham, Thomas | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Grocott, Bruce | Turner, Dennis |
| Gunnell, John | Tyler, Paul |
| Hall, Mike | Wareing, Robert N |
| Hanson, David | Welsh, Andrew |
| Harvey, Nick | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Heppell, John | Winnick, David |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Wise, Audrey |
| Home Robertson, John | Wray, Jimmy |
| Hoyle, Doug | |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Mr. Terry Lewis and |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Mr. Alan Simpson. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment, as amended.
§ The House divided: Ayes 283, Noes 86.
309| Division No. 387] | [12.53 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) |
| Alexander, Richard | Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Baldry, Tony |
| Amess, David | Banks, Matthew (Southport) |
| Ancram, Michael | Bates, Michael |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Batiste, Spencer |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Beggs, Roy |
| Ashby, David | Bellingham, Henry |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Bendall, Vivian |
| Atkins, Robert | Beresford, Sir Paul |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gorst, John |
| Booth, Hartley | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Boswell, Tim | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Bowden, Andrew | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Bowis, John | Hague, William |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Brazier, Julian | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Bright, Graham | Hannam, Sir John |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Harris, David |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Hawkins, Nick |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Hawksley, Warren |
| Burns, Simon | Hayes, Jerry |
| Burt, Alistair | Heald, Oliver |
| Butler, Peter | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Hendry, Charles |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) |
| Cash, William | Horam, John |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Clappison, James | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Coe, Sebastian | Hunter, Andrew |
| Colvin, Michael | Jack, Michael |
| Congdon, David | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Conway, Derek | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Jessel, Toby |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Couchman, James | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Cran, James | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Key, Robert |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Day, Stephen | Knapman, Roger |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Devlin, Tim | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Dicks, Terry | Knox, Sir David |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Dover, Den | Lang, Rt Hon Ian |
| Duncan, Alan | Lawrence, Sir Ivan |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Legg, Barry |
| Dunn, Bob | Leigh, Edward |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Lennox-Boyd, Mark |
| Dykes, Hugh | Lidington, David |
| Elletson, Harold | Lightbown, David |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | Lord, Michael |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) | Luff, Peter |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Evennett, David | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Faber, David | MacKay, Andrew |
| Fabricant, Michael | Maclean, David |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Fishburn, Dudley | Madel, David |
| Forman, Nigel | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Malone, Gerald |
| Forth, Eric | Mans, Keith |
| Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) | Marland, Paul |
| Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) | Marlow, Tony |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| French, Douglas | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Fry, Peter | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Gale, Roger | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Gallie, Phil | Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Merchant, Piers |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Milligan, Stephen |
| Garnier, Edward | Mills, Iain |
| Gill, Christopher | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Glllan, Cheryl | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Moss, Malcolm | Steen, Anthony |
| Needham, Richard | Stephen, Michael |
| Nelson, Anthony | Stern, Michael |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Stewart, Allan |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Streeter, Gary |
| Nicholson, David (Taunton) | Sumberg, David |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Sweeney, Walter |
| Norris, Steve | Sykes, John |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Ottaway, Richard | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Page, Richard | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Paice, James | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Patnick, Irvine | Thomason, Roy |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Pawsey, James | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Pickles, Eric | Thurnham, Peter |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Rathbone, Tim | Tracey, Richard |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim | Tredinnick, David |
| Richards, Rod | Trend, Michael |
| Riddick, Graham | Trotter, Neville |
| Robathan, Andrew | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) | Viggers, Peter |
| Robinson, Mark (Somerton) | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) | Waller, Gary |
| Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) | Ward, John |
| Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Ryder, Rt Hon Richard | Waterson, Nigel |
| Sackville, Tom | Watts, John |
| Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim | Wells, Bowen |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Whitney, Ray |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Whittingdale, John |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Wiggin, Sir Jerry |
| Shersby, Michael | Wilkinson, John |
| Sims, Roger | Willetts, David |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Wilshire, David |
| Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Wood, Timothy |
| Soames, Nicholas | Yeo, Tim |
| Spencer, Sir Derek | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) | |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Spink, Dr Robert | Mr. Robert Hughes and |
| Spring, Richard | Mr. James Arbuthnot. |
| Sproat, Iain | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Donohoe, Brian H. |
| Allen, Graham | Etherington, Bill |
| Alton, David | Ewing, Mrs Margaret |
| Barnes, Harry | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Bayley, Hugh | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Graham, Thomas |
| Betts, Clive | Grocott, Bruce |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Gunnell, John |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Hall, Mike |
| Cann, Jamie | Hanson, David |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Henderson, Doug |
| Coffey, Ann | Heppell, John |
| Connarty, Michael | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Corbett, Robin | Home Robertson, John |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Cox, Tom | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Cryer, Bob | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Cummings, John | Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Dafis, Cynog | Lewis, Terry |
| Davidson, Ian | Livingstone, Ken |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | McAllion, John |
| Denham, John | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Dewar, Donald | Macdonald, Calum |
| Dixon, Don | McFall, John |
| McKelvey, William | Reid, Dr John |
| Macklnlay, Andrew | Rendel, David |
| McMaster, Gordon | Simpson, Alan |
| Maddock, Mrs Diana | Skinner, Dennis |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) | Spellar, John |
| Martlew, Eric | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Meale, Alan | Turner, Dennis |
| Michael, Alun | Tyler, Paul |
| Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Wareing, Robert N |
| Miller, Andrew | Welsh, Andrew |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Wigley, Dafydd |
| Olner, William | Winnick, David |
| O'Neill, Martin | Wise, Audrey |
| Parry, Robert | Wray, Jimmy |
| Pickthall, Colin | |
| Pike, Peter L. | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Powell, Ray (Ogmore) | Mr. Andrew Bennett and |
| Purchase, Ken | Dr. John Marek. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.[special Entry.]
§ Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the remaining amendments involving privilege;—
§ The House divided: Ayes 270, Noes 82.
311| Division No. 388] | [1.06 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Congdon, David |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Conway, Derek |
| Alexander, Richard | Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Coombs, Simon (Swindon) |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Cope, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Amess, David | Couchman, James |
| Arbuthnot, James | Cran, James |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) |
| Ashby, David | Davies, Quentin (Stamfoid) |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Day, Stephen |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Dicks, Terry |
| Baldry, Tony | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Bates, Michael | Dover, Den |
| Batiste, Spencer | Duncan, Alan |
| Beggs, Roy | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Bellingham, Henry | Dunn, Bob |
| Bendall, Vivian | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Dykes, Hugh |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Elletson, Harold |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Booth, Hartley | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Boswell, Tim | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Evennett, David |
| Bowden, Andrew | Faber, David |
| Bowis, John | Fabricant, Michael |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Brazier, Julian | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bright, Graham | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Forman, Nigel |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Forth, Eric |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Budgen, Nicholas | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Burns, Simon | French, Douglas |
| Burt, Alistair | Fry, Peter |
| Butler, Peter | Gale, Roger |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Gallie, Phil |
| Carrington, Matthew | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Carttiss, Michael | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Cash, William | Garnier, Edward |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Gill, Christopher |
| Chapman, Sydney | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Clappison, James | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Gorst, John |
| Coe, Sebastian | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Colvin, Michael | Greenway, Harry (Ealling N) |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Norris, Steve |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley |
| Hague, William | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Ottaway, Richard |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Page, Richard |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Paice, James |
| Hannam, Sir John | Patnick, Irvine |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Harris, David | Pawsey, James |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Hawkins, Nick | Pickles, Eric |
| Hawksley, Warren | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Hayes, Jerry | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Heald, Oliver | Rathbone, Tim |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Hendry, Charles | Richards, Rod |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Riddick, Graham |
| Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) | Robathan, Andrew |
| Horam, John | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) | Robinson, Marts (Somerton) |
| Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Hunter, Andrew | Sackville, Tom |
| Jack, Michael | Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Jessel, Toby | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Shersby, Michael |
| Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) | Sims, Roger |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Key, Robert | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Soames, Nicholas |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Knapman, Roger | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Knox, Sir David | Spring, Richard |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Sproat, Iain |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Legg, Barry | Steen, Anthony |
| Leigh, Edward | Stephen, Michael |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Stern, Michael |
| Lidington, David | Stewart, Allan |
| Lightbown, David | Streeter, Gary |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Sweeney, Walter |
| Lord, Michael | Sykes, John |
| Luff, Peter | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Maclean, David | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Thomason, Roy |
| Madel, David | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Malone, Gerald | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Mans, Keith | Thurnham, Peter |
| Marland, Paul | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Marlow, Tony | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Tracey, Richard |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Tredinnick, David |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Trend, Michael |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Trotter, Neville |
| Merchant, Piers | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Milligan, Stephen | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Mills, Iain | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Waller, Gary |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Ward, John |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Moss, Malcolm | Waterson, Nigel |
| Needham, Richard | Watts, John |
| Nelson, Anthony | Wells, Bowen |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Whitney, Ray |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Whittingdale, John |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Wilkinson, John | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Willetts, David | |
| Wolfson, Mark | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Wood, Timothy | Mr. Andrew Mitchell and |
| Yeo, Tim | Mr. Andrew Mackay. |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Allen, Graham | Lewis, Terry |
| Alton, David | McAllion, John |
| Barnes, Harry | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Bayley, Hugh | Macdonald, Calum |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | McFall, John |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | McKelvey, William |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Betts, Clive | McMaster, Gordon |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | McWilliam, John |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Cann, Jamie | Marek, Dr John |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Clelland, David | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Coffey, Ann | Martlew, Eric |
| Connarty, Michael | Meale, Alan |
| Corbett, Robin | Michael, Alun |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Cox, Tom | Miller, Andrew |
| Cummings, John | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Olner, William |
| Davidson, Ian | Parry, Robert |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Pickthall, Colin |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Dixon, Don | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Prescott, John |
| Etherington, Bill | Purchase, Ken |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Reid, Dr John |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Rendel, David |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Simpson, Alan |
| Graham, Thomas | Spearing, Nigel |
| Grocott, Bruce | Spellar, John |
| Gunnell, John | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Hall, Mike | Turner, Dennis |
| Harvey, Nick | Tyler, Paul |
| Henderson, Doug | Wareing, Robert N |
| Heppell, John | Winnick, David |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Wise, Audrey |
| Home Robertson, John | Wray, Jimmy |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) | Mr. Bob Cryer and |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Mr. Dennis Skinner. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to. [Special Entry.]
§ Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the remaining amendments [Queen's and Prince of Wales's consent signified to amendment No.309]:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 264, Noes 77.
313| Division No. 389] | [1.19 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Bendall, Vivian |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Beresford, Sir Paul |
| Alexander, Richard | Biffen, Rt Hon John |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Blackburn, Dr John G. |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Bonsor, Sir Nicholas |
| Amess, David | Booth, Hartley |
| Arbuthnot, James | Boswell, Tim |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Bowden, Andrew |
| Ashby, David | Bowis, John |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Brandreth, Gyles |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Brazier, Julian |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Bright, Graham |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) |
| Baldry, Tony | Browning, Mrs. Angela |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) |
| Bates, Michael | Burns, Simon |
| Batiste, Spencer | Burt, Alistair |
| Beggs, Roy | Butler, Peter |
| Bellingham, Henry | Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) |
| Carrington, Matthew | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Cash, William | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Clappison, James | Hunter, Andrew |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Jack, Michael |
| Coe, Sebastian | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Colvin, Michael | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Congdon, David | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Conway, Derek | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Couchman, James | Key, Robert |
| Cran, James | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Knapman, Roger |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Day, Stephen | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Devlin, Tim | Lawrence, Sir Ivan |
| Dicks, Terry | Legg, Barry |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Leigh, Edward |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Lennox-Boyd, Mark |
| Dover, Den | Lidington, David |
| Duncan, Alan | Lightbown, David |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Lord, Michael |
| Dunn, Bob | Luff, Peter |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Dykes, Hugh | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Elletson, Harold | Maclean, David |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribbla Valley) | Madel, David |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Evennett, David | Malone, Gerald |
| Faber, David | Mans, Keith |
| Fabricant, Michael | Marland, Paul |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Marlow, Tony |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Fishburn, Dudley | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Forman, Nigel | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Forth, Eric | Merchant, Piers |
| Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) | Milligan, Stephen |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | Mills, Iain |
| French, Douglas | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Fry, Peter | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Gale, Roger | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Gallie, Phil | Monro, Sir Hector |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Moss, Malcolm |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Nelson, Anthony |
| Garnier, Edward | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Gill, Christopher | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Gillan, Cheryl | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Gorst, John | Norris, Steve |
| Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) | Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Ottaway, Richard |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Page, Richard |
| Hague, William | Paice, James |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Pawsey, James |
| Hannam, Sir John | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Pickles, Eric |
| Harris, David | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Hawkins, Nick | Rathbone, Tim |
| Hawksley, Warren | Richards, Rod |
| Hayes, Jerry | Riddick, Graham |
| Heald, Oliver | Robathan, Andrew |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Hendry, Charles | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Horam, John | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Howarth, Alan (Stratrd-on-A) | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Ryder, Rt Hon Richard | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Sackville, Tom | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Thurnham, Peter |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Tracey, Richard |
| Shersby, Michael | Tredinnick, David |
| Sims, Roger | Trend, Michael |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Trotter, Neville |
| Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Soames, Nicholas | Viggers, Peter |
| Spencer, Sir Derek | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) | Waller, Gary |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Ward, John |
| Spink, Dr Robert | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Spring, Richard | Waterson, Nigel |
| Sproat, Iain | Watts, John |
| Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) | Wells, Bowen |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Whitney, Ray |
| Steen, Anthony | Whittingdale, John |
| Stephen, Michael | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Stern, Michael | Wilkinson, John |
| Stewart, Allan | Willetts, David |
| Streeter, Gary | Wolfson, Mark |
| Sweeney, Walter | Wood, Timothy |
| Sykes, John | Yeo, Tim |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | |
| Taylor, John M. (Solihull) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) | Mr. Irvine Patnick and |
| Temple-Morris, Peter | Mr. Andrew MacKay. |
| Thomason, Roy | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Lewis, Terry |
| Allen, Graham | McAllion, John |
| Alton, David | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Barnes, Harry | Macdonald, Calum |
| Bayley, Hugh | McFall, John |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | McKelvey, William |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Bermingham, Gerald | McMaster, Gordon |
| Betts, Clive | McWilliam, John |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Marek, Dr John |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Cann, Jamie | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Martlew, Eric |
| Clelland, David | Meale, Alan |
| Coffey, Ann | Michael, Alun |
| Corbett, Robin | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Miller, Andrew |
| Cox, Tom | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Cryer, Bob | Olner, William |
| Cummings, John | Parry, Robert |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Pickthall, Colin |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Davidson, Ian | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Prescott, John |
| Dixon, Don | Purchase, Ken |
| Etherington, Bill | Rendel, David |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Simpson, Alan |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Spearing, Nigel |
| Graham, Thomas | Spellar, John |
| Grocott, Bruce | Turner, Dennis |
| Hall, Mike | Tyler, Paul |
| Harvey, Nick | Wareing, Robert N |
| Henderson, Doug | Winnick, David |
| Heppell, John | Wise, Audrey |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Wray, Jimmy |
| Home Robertson, John | |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) | Dr. Norman A. Godman and |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Mr. Michael Connarty. |
| Kilfoyle, Peter |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Motion made, and Question,
§ That a Committee be appointed to draw up reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments: Mr. Michael Brown, Mr. Roger Freeman, Mr. John MacGregor, Mr. Alan Meale, Mr. John Prescott; that three be the quorum; that the Committee do withdraw immediately.—[Mr. MacGregor.]
§ put forthwith pursuant to the Order [2 November]:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 260, Noes 75.
316| Division No. 390 | [1.31 |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Duncan, Alan |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Alexander, Richard | Dunn, Bob |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Dykes, Hugh |
| Amess, David | Elletson, Harold |
| Arbuthnot, James | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Ashby, David | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Evennett, David |
| Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E) | Faber, David |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Fabricant, Michael |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Baldry, Tony | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Fishburn, Dudley |
| Bates, Michael | Forman, Nigel |
| Batiste, Spencer | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Forth, Eric |
| Bendall, Vivian | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | French, Douglas |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Fry, Peter |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gale, Roger |
| Booth, Hartley | Gallie, Phil |
| Boswell, Tim | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Bowden, Andrew | Garnier, Edward |
| Bowis, John | Gill, Christopher |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Gillan, Cheryl |
| Brazier, Julian | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Bright, Graham | Gorst, John |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Burns, Simon | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Burt, Alistair | Hague, William |
| Butler, Peter | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hannam, Sir John |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Cash, William | Harris, David |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hawkins, Nick |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hawksley, Warren |
| Clappison, James | Hayes, Jerry |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Heald, Oliver |
| Coe, Sebastian | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Colvin, Michael | Hendry, Charles |
| Congdon, David | Hill, James (Southampton Test) |
| Conway, Derek | Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Horam, John |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) |
| Couchman, James | Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Cran, James | Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) | Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) |
| Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Hunter, Andrew |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Jack, Michael |
| Day, Stephen | Jackson, Robert (Wantage) |
| Deva, Nirj Joseph | Jenkin, Bernard |
| Devlin, Tim | Jessel, Toby |
| Dicks, Terry | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Dover, Den | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Rathbone, Tim |
| Key, Robert | Richards, Rod |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Riddick, Graham |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Robathan, Andrew |
| Knapman, Roger | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Legg, Barry | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Leigh, Edward | Sackville, Tom |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim |
| Lidington, David | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Lightbown, David | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Lord, Michael | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Luff, Peter | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas | Shersby, Michael |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Sims, Roger |
| Maclean, David | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Madel, David | Soames, Nicholas |
| Maitland, Lady Olga | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Malone, Gerald | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Mans, Keith | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Marland, Paul | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Marlow, Tony | Spring, Richard |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Sproat, Iain |
| Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Steen, Anthony |
| Merchant, Piers | Stephen, Michael |
| Milligan, Stephen | Stern, Michael |
| Mills, Iain | Stewart, Allan |
| Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) | Streeter, Gary |
| Moate, Sir Roger | Sweeney, Walter |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Sykes, John |
| Nelson, Anthony | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Neubert, Sir Michael | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Taylor, John M, (Solihull) |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) |
| Norris, Steve | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley | Thomason, Roy |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Ottaway, Richard | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Page, Richard | Thornton, Sir Malcolm |
| Paice, James | Thurnham, Peter |
| Patnick, Irvine | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Pawsey, James | Tracey, Richard |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Tredinnick, David |
| Pickles, Eric | Trend, Michael |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Trotter, Neville |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Vaughan, Sir Gerard | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Viggers, Peter | Wilkinson, John |
| Walker, Bill (N Tayside) | Willetts, David |
| Waller, Gary | Wolfson, Mark |
| Ward, John | Wood, Timothy |
| Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) | Yeo, Tim |
| Waterson, Nigel | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Watts, John | |
| Wells, Bowen | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Whitney, Ray | Mr. Andrew Mackay and |
| Whittingdale, John | Mr. Andrew Mitchell. |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) |
| Allen, Graham | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Alton, David | Lewis, Terry |
| Barnes, Harry | McAllion, John |
| Bayley, Hugh | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Macdonald, Calum |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | McFall, John |
| Bermingham, Gerald | McKelvey, William |
| Betts, Clive | McMaster, Gordon |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Cann, Jamie | Martlew, Eric |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Meale, Alan |
| Clelland, David | Michael, Alun |
| Coffey, Ann | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Connarty, Michael | Miller, Andrew |
| Corbett, Robin | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Olner, William |
| Cox, Tom | O'Neill, Martin |
| Cryer, Bob | Pickthall, Colin |
| Cummings, John | Pike, Peter L. |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Prescott, John |
| Davidson, Ian | Purchase, Ken |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Rendel, David |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'I) | Simpson, Alan |
| Dixon, Don | Skinner, Dennis |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Spearing, Nigel |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Spellar, John |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Turner, Dennis |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Tyler, Paul |
| Graham, Thomas | Wareing, Robert N |
| Grocott, Bruce | Winnick, David |
| Hall, Mike | Wise, Audrey |
| Heppell, John | Wray, Jimmy |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | |
| Home Robertson, John | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | Mr. Bill Etherington and |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Dr. John Marek. |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.