§ Motion made, and Question put,
§ That, at this day's sitting, the Teachers' Pay and Conditions Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.—[Mr. Sainsbury.]
§ The House divided: Ayes 219, Noes 167.
445| Division No. 26] | [10.17 pm |
| AYES | |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Amess, David |
| Alexander, Richard | Ancram, Michael |
| Arnold, Tom | Gow, Ian |
| Ashby, David | Gower, Sir Raymond |
| Atkins, Robert (South Ribble) | Grant, Sir Anthony |
| Atkinson, David (B'm'th E) | Greenway, Harry |
| Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Vall'y) | Gregory, Conal |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsm'th N) |
| Baldry, Tony | Ground, Patrick |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Grylls, Michael |
| Batiste, Spencer | Gummer, Rt Hon John S |
| Bellingham, Henry | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Benyon, William | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Hannam, John |
| Biggs-Davison, Sir John | Hargreaves, Kenneth |
| Blackburn, John | Harris, David |
| Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Harvey, Robert |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Hawkins, Sir Paul (N'folk SW) |
| Bottomley, Peter | Hayes, J. |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Hayhoe, Rt Hon Barney |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton K'to'n) | Henderson, Barry |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes | Hickmet, Richard |
| Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard | Hicks, Robert |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Hill, James |
| Bright, Graham | Hind, Kenneth |
| Brinton, Tim | Hirst, Michael |
| Brittan, Rt Hon Leon | Holland, Sir Philip (Gedling) |
| Browne, John | Holt, Richard |
| Bruinvels, Peter | Hordern, Sir Peter |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon A. | Howard, Michael |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Howarth, Gerald (Cannock) |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Howell, Rt Hon D. (G'ldford) |
| Burt, Alistair | Hubbard-Miles, Peter |
| Butcher, John | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Butler, Rt Hon Sir Adam | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) |
| Butterfill, John | Hunter, Andrew |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Jackson, Robert |
| Cash, William | Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick |
| Chope, Christopher | Jessel, Toby |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine |
| Cockeram, Eric | King, Roger (B'ham N'field) |
| Colvin, Michael | King, Rt Hon Tom |
| Conway, Derek | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Coombs, Simon | Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) |
| Cope, John | Knowles, Michael |
| Cormack, Patrick | Knox, David |
| Corrie, John | Lang, Ian |
| Couchman, James | Latham, Michael |
| Crouch, David | Lawler, Geoffrey |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Dicks, Terry | Lewis, Sir Kenneth (Stamf'd) |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord J. | Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) |
| Dover, Den | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Dunn, Robert | Lord, Michael |
| Durant, Tony | Lyell, Nicholas |
| Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke) | McCrindle, Robert |
| Evennett, David | McCurley, Mrs Anna |
| Eyre, Sir Reginald | Macfarlane, Neil |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Maclean, David John |
| Favell, Anthony | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | McNair-Wilson, M. (N'bury) |
| Fletcher, Alexander | McQuarrie, Albert |
| Fookes, Miss Janet | Madel, David |
| Forman, Nigel | Major, John |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Malins, Humfrey |
| Forth, Eric | Malone, Gerald |
| Fowler, Rt Hon Norman | Maples, John |
| Fox, Sir Marcus | Marlow, Antony |
| Freeman, Roger | Mather, Carol |
| Fry, Peter | Maude, Hon Francis |
| Gale, Roger | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Galley, Roy | Mayhew, Sir Patrick |
| Gardner, Sir Edward (Fylde) | Mellor, David |
| Garel-Jones, Tristan | Merchant, Piers |
| Gilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Glyn, Dr Alan | Miller, Hal (B'grove) |
| Goodhart, Sir Philip | Mills, Iain (Meriden) |
| Goodlad, Alastair | Mills, Sir Peter (West Devon) |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Rathbone, Tim |
| Mitchell, David (Hants NW) | Rhodes James, Robert |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Morris, M. (N'hampton S) | Ridsdale, Sir Julian |
| Morrison, Hon P. (Chester) | Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm |
| Moynihan, Hon C. | Roe, Mrs Marion |
| Mudd, David | Rowe, Andrew |
| Neale, Gerrard | Rumbold, Mrs Angela |
| Neubert, Michael | Sainsbury, Hon Timothy |
| Newton, Tony | Silvester, Fred |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Spencer, Derek |
| Norris, Steven | Stevens, Lewis (Nuneaton) |
| Onslow, Cranley | Taylor, John (Solihull) |
| Oppenheim, Phillip | Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs M. |
| Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs S. | Thompson, Donald (Calder V) |
| Osborn, Sir John | Thompson, Patrick (N'ich N) |
| Ottaway, Richard | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Page, Sir John (Harrow W) | Thurnham, Peter |
| Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Patten, Christopher (Bath) | van Straubenzee, Sir W. |
| Pattie, Geoffrey | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Pawsey, James | Wakeham, Rt Hon John |
| Pollock, Alexander | Watson, John |
| Porter, Barry | Whitfield, John |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Powley, John | |
| Price, Sir David | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Proctor, K. Harvey | Mr. David Lightbown and |
| Raffan, Keith | Mr. Michael Portillo. |
| Raison, Rt Hon Timothy |
| NOES | |
| Abse, Leo | Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'ge H'l) |
| Adams, Allen (Paisley N) | Dewar, Donald |
| Alton, David | Dormand, Jack |
| Anderson, Donald | Dubs, Alfred |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Duffy, A. E. P. |
| Ashdown, Paddy | Dunwoody, Hon Mrs G. |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Eadie, Alex |
| Ashton, Joe | Eastham, Ken |
| Atkinson, N. (Tottenham) | Edwards, Bob (W'h'mpt'n SE) |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Fatchett, Derek |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Field, Frank (Birkenhead) |
| Barnett, Guy | Fields, T. (L'pool Broad Gn) |
| Barron, Kevin | Fisher, Mark |
| Beckett, Mrs Margaret | Flannery, Martin |
| Beith, A. J. | Foster, Derek |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Foulkes, George |
| Bennett, A. (Dent'n & Red'sh) | Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Freud, Clement |
| Blair, Anthony | Godman, Dr Norman |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Boyes, Roland | Gould, Bryan |
| Brown, Gordon (D'f'mline E) | Gourlay, Harry |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Hamilton, W. W. (Fife Central) |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle-u-Tyne E) | Hancock, Michael |
| Brown, Ron (E'burgh, Leith) | Hardy, Peter |
| Bruce, Malcolm | Harman, Ms Harriet |
| Buchan, Norman | Harrison, Rt Hon Walter |
| Caborn, Richard | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Callaghan, Jim (Heyw'd & M) | Heffer, Eric S. |
| Campbell-Savours, Dale | Holland, Stuart (Vauxhall) |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montg'y) | Home Robertson, John |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Howarth, George (Knowsley, N) |
| Clark, Dr David (S Shields) | Howell, Rt Hon D. (S'heath) |
| Clarke, Thomas | Howells, Geraint |
| Clay, Robert | Hoyle, Douglas |
| Clelland, David Gordon | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Hughes, Roy (Newport East) |
| Cocks, Rt Hon M. (Bristol S) | Hughes, Simon (Southwark) |
| Cohen, Harry | Janner, Hon Greville |
| Coleman, Donald | Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Hillh'd) |
| Conlan, Bernard | Johnston, Sir Russell |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton North) | Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) |
| Cook, Robin F. (Livingston) | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Corbett, Robin | Kennedy, Charles |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Kirkwood, Archy |
| Craigen, J. M. | Lambie, David |
| Crowther, Stan | Lamond, James |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Radice, Giles |
| Lewis, Terence (Worsley) | Raynsford, Nick |
| Livsey, Richard | Redmond, Martin |
| Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Richardson, Ms Jo |
| McCartney, Hugh | Robinson, G. (Coventry NW) |
| McGuire, Michael | Rogers, Allan |
| McKay, Allen (Penistone) | Rooker, J. W. |
| McKelvey, William | Ross, Ernest (Dundee W) |
| MacKenzie, Rt Hon Gregor | Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) |
| Maclennan, Robert | Rowlands, Ted |
| McTaggart, Robert | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Madden, Max | Sheldon, Rt Hon R. |
| Marek, Dr John | Shields, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Martin, Michael | Short, Ms Clare (Ladywood) |
| Maxton, John | Short, Mrs R.(W'hampt'n NE) |
| Maynard, Miss Joan | Skinner, Dennis |
| Meadowcroft, Michael | Smith, Rt Hon J. (M'ds E) |
| Michie, William | Soley, Clive |
| Mikardo, Ian | Spearing, Nigel |
| Millan, Rt Hon Bruce | Steel, Rt Hon David |
| Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Strang, Gavin |
| Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby) | Straw, Jack |
| Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe) | Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth) |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Thorne, Stan (Preston) |
| Nellist, David | Tinn, James |
| Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon | Torney, Tom |
| O'Brien, William | Wallace, James |
| O'Neill, Martin | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Wareing, Robert |
| Owen, Rt Hon Dr David | Welsh, Michael |
| Park, George | Williams, Rt Hon A. |
| Parry, Robert | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Pavitt, Laurie | |
| Pendry, Tom | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Penhaligon, David | Mr. James Hamilton and |
| Powell, Rt Hon J. E. | Mr. Don Dixon. |
| Powell, Raymond (Ogmore) |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Mr. Peter Hardy (Wentworth)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I saw on the Tapes downstairs the announcement that the Government propose immediately to suspend further consideration of the Bill. I do not know whether that report is accurate. It seemed to delight a rather large number of Conservative Members. If this is an official pronouncement from the Department of Education and Science, it must be a profound discourtesy to the House for it to hear of it in that surprising way. The Secretary of State should immediately make an explanation to the House about his further intentions.
§ Mr. Kenneth BakerThe hon. Gentleman should not believe everything that he reads. I have no intention of suspending consideration of the Bill. We have just started. We have just dealt with the first set of amendments. The debate is just beginning, it is just warming up, and we should proceed.
§ Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Paul Dean)Order. I shall not take any further points of order for the simple reason that the House has just passed the 10 o'clock motion, so we should now get on with our business.