§ Mr. LANSBURYMay I ask the Lord President of the Council how far he proposes to go this evening?
§ Mr. BALDWINThere is no change in the business as announced on Thursday. We hope to take the National Health Insurance (Contributory Pensions) Bill, Committee stage, and the Report and Third Reading of the Hire Purchase and Small Debt (Scotland) Bill.
§ Mr. LANSBURYHow long does the right hon. Gentleman propose to sit, because last night getting as far as we did took up a great deal of time?
§ Mr. BALDWINThat shows how dangerous it is to make statements as to one's intentions, because very often a man on this bench proposes and the House disposes.
§ Mr. LANSBURYDoes the right hon. Gentleman intend to keep the House very late in order to get the Scottish Bill through?
§ Mr. BALDWINPerhaps I may go as far as this. We certainly intend to get the first Order, but we do not propose 195 to keep the House unduly late over the second.
§ Mr. MAXTONOn Thursday I asked the Prime Minister if he thought two days was an adequate allowance for the Committee stage of this controversial Measure. His view was that it was. The progress made yesterday indicates that it was not a very adequate allowance. The Prime Minister also said that he did not propose to keep the House unduly late upon it, and I think it would be for the convenience of every one if the Lord President of the Council could give some indication of the hour at which he proposes to let the House away assuming that the Committee stage has not been completed.
§ Mr. BALDWINI have said nothing but what was said by the Prime Minister.
§ The Prime Minister said that he would not propose to keep the House unduly late over the matter of the Hire Purchase and Small Debt (Scotland) Bill, and I entirely agree, as I ought, with the Prime Minister that two Parliamentary days are sufficient time for a discussion of the proposals which, though important, are limited in the Bill before the Committee. I certainly must ask the House to conclude, whatever the hour, the Committee stage of the National Health Insurance and Contributory Pensions Bill.
§
Motion made, and Question put,
That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Baldwin.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 285; Noes, 42.
197| Division No. 232.] | AYES. | [3.43 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Conant, R. J. E. | Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas |
| Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) | Cook, Thomas A. | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.) |
| Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. | Cooke, Douglas | Gunston, Captain D. W. |
| Allen, Lt.-Col J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd) | Cooper, A. Duff | Guy, J. C. Morrison |
| Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) | Copeland, Ida | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Craddock. Sir Reginald Henry | Hales, Harold K. |
| Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. | Cranborne, Viscount | Hamilton, Sir George (Word) |
| Aske, Sir Robert William | Craven-Ellis, William | Hamilton, Sir R.W.(Orkney & Z'tl'nd) |
| Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) | Crooke, J. Smedley | Hanley, Dennis A. |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Crookshank, Col. C. do Windt (Bootle) | Hartington, Marquess of |
| Atkinson. Cyril | Crossley, A. C. | Hartland, George A. |
| Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. | Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard | Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Curry, A. C. | Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. |
| Balniel, Lord | Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) | Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Davison, Sir William Henry | Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsf'd) |
| Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar | Denman, Hon. R. D. | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P |
| Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey | Denville, Alfred | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller |
| Beaumont. M. w. (Bucks, Aylesbury) | Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. |
| Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portem'th,C.) | Dickie, John P. | Holdsworth, Herbert |
| Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B. | Donner, P. W. | Hope, Sydney (Chester, stalybridge) |
| Blaker, Sir Reginald | Doran, Edward | Hore-Belisha, Leslie |
| Blindell, James | Drewe, Cedric | Hornby, Frank |
| Boulton, W. W. | Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel | Horsbrugh, Florence |
| Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. | Duggan, Hubert John | Howard, Tom Forrest |
| Boyce, H. Leslie | Duncan. James A. L. (Kensington, N.) | Howitt, Dr. Altred B. |
| Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) | Dunglass, Lord | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.) |
| Briscoe, Capt. Richard George | Eden, Robert Anthony | Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) |
| Broadbent, Colonel John | Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Hume, Sir George Hopwood |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey | Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries) |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Elliston, Captain George Sampson | Hunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg) |
| Browne, Captain A. C. | Elmley, Viscount | Hurd, Sir Percy |
| Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. | Emmott, Charles E. G. C. | Jamieson. Douglas |
| Burghley, Lord | Emrys-Evans, P. V. | Janner, Barnett |
| Burnett, John George | Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) | Jesson, Major Thomas E. |
| Butler, Richard Austen | Erskine-Bolst, Capt. C. C. (Blackpool) | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) |
| Cadogan, Hon. Edward | Essenhigh, Reginald Clare | Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) |
| Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) | Everard, W. Lindsay | Ker, J. Campbell |
| Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm | Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Kerr, Hamilton W. |
| Castlereagh, Viscount | Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Kirkpatrick, William M. |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Foot, Dingle (Dundee) | Knatchbull, Captain Hon. M. H. R. |
| Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City) | Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) | Knight, Holford |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth, S.) | Fraser, Captain Ian | Law, Sir Alfred |
| Chalmers, John Rutherford | Fuller, Captain A. G. | Leech, Dr. J. W. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. (Birm., W) | Ganzoni, Sir John | Lees-Jones, John |
| Chapman, Col. R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Lennox-Boyd, A. T. |
| Christie, James Archibald | Gledhill, Gilbert | Levy, Thomas |
| Clarke, Frank | Gluckstein, Louis Halle | Lewis, Oswald |
| Clayton, Dr. George C. | Glyn, Major Ralph G. C. | Liddall, Walter S. |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Goff, Sir Park | Lindsay, Noel Ker |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) | Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe |
| Llewellin, Major John J. | Patrick, Colin M. | Smithers, Waldron |
| Llewellyn-Jones, Frederick | Peake, Captain Osbert | Somervell, Donald Bradley |
| Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd, Gr'n) | Pearson, William G. | Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor) |
| Loder, Captain J. de Vere | Peat, Charles U. | Southby, Commander Archibald R. J. |
| Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander | Perkins, Walter R. D. | Spencer, Captain Richard A. |
| Lumley, Captain Lawrence Ft. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H. |
| Mabane, William | Peto, Geoffrey K.(W'verh'pt'n, Blliton) | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) |
| MacAndrew, Maj. C. G. (Partick) | Pickering, Ernest H. | Stevenson, James |
| MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) | Pike, Cecil F. | Storty, Samuel |
| McEwen, Captain J. H. F. | Potter, John | Stourton, Hon. John J. |
| McKeag, William | Procter, Major Henry Adam | Strauss, Edward A. |
| Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton | Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) | Strickland, Captain W. F. |
| McLean, Major Alan | Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- |
| McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) | Ramsbotham, Herwald | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Macquisten, Frederick Alexander | Ramsden, E. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray F. |
| Magnay, Thomas | Rathbone, Eleanor | Summersby, Charles H. |
| Maitland, Adam | Rea, Walter Russell | Taylor, Vice-Admiral E.A.(P'dd'gt'n, S.) |
| Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest | Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot | Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham | Thomas, James P L. (Hereford) |
| Mander, Geoffrey le M. | Reid, David D. (County Down) | Thompson, Luke |
| Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. | Reid, William Allan (Derby) | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Margesson, Capt. Henry David R. | Remer, John R. | Touche, Gordon Cosmo |
| Martin, Thomas B. | Roberts. Aled (Wrexham) | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Mellor, Richard James | Rosbotham, S. T. | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Millar, Sir James Duncan | Ross, Ronald D. | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) | Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) | Wallace, John (Dunfermline) |
| Milne, Charles | Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A. | Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) |
| Milne, Sir John S. Wardlaw- | Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy) | Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend) |
| Mitchell, Harold P.(Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock) |
| Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Rutherford, Sir John Hugo | Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. |
| Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr) | Salmon, Major Isidore | Watt, Captain George Steven H. |
| Morris, John Patrick (Salford, N.) | Salt, Edward W. | Weymouth, Viscount |
| Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) | White Henry Graham |
| Moss, Captain H. J. | Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart | Whiteside, Borras Noel H. |
| Muirhead, Major A. J. | Savery, Samuel Servington | Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) |
| Munro, Patrick | Scone, Lord | Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.) |
| Nail-Cain, Arthur Ronald N. | Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. | Wills, Wilfrid D. |
| Nation, Brigadler-General J. J. H. | Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) | Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) | Simmonds, Oliver Edwin | Womersley, Walter James |
| Normand, Wilfrid Guild | Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A.(C'thness) | Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff) |
| North, Captain Edward T, | Skelton, Archibald Noel | Worthington, Dr. John V. |
| Nunn, William | Slater, John | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks) |
| O'Connor, Terence James | Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D. | |
| O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh | Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G.A. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir George Penny. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) | Grundy, Thomas W. | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | Maxton, James |
| Batey, Joseph | Hall, George H (Merthyr Tydvil) | Milner, Major James |
| Buchanan, George | Hirst, George Henry | Parkinson, John Allen |
| Cape, Thomas | Jenkins. Sir William | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | John, William | Thorne, William James |
| Cripps, Sir Stafford | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Daggar, George | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Kirkwood, David | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Duncan, Charles (Derby, Claycross) | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Williams, Edward John (Ogmore) |
| Edwards, Charles | Lawson, John James | Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly) |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Leonard, William | Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley) |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur | Logan, David Gilbert | |
| Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) | Lunn, William | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | McGovern, John | Mr. Gordon Macdonald and Mr. Groves. |