HC Deb 03 December 1912 vol 44 cc2193-7

(1) The appeal from Courts in Ireland to the House of Lords shall cease; and where any person would, but for the Act, have a right to appeal from any court in Ireland to the House of Lords, that person shall have the like right to appeal to His Majesty the King in Council; and all Enactments relating to appeals to His Majesty the King in Council, and to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, shall apply accordingly.

(2) When the Judicial Committee sit for hearing any appeal from a Court in Ireland in pursuance of any provisions of this Act, there shall be present not less than four Lords of Appeal, within the meaning of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act, 1876, and

at least one member who is or has been a judge of the Supreme Court in Ireland.

(3) A rota of privy councilors to sit for hearing appeals from Courts in Ireland shall be made annually by His Majesty in Council, and the privy councilors, ar some of them, on that rota shall sit to hear the said appeals. A casual vacancy occurring in the rota during the year may be filled by Order in Council.

(4) Nothing in this Act shall affect the jurisdiction of the House of Lords to determine the claims to Irish peerages.

Question put, "That this Clause stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 316; Noes, 192.

Division No. 380.] AYES. [7.55 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Beauchamp, Sir Edward Chancellor, H. G.
Acland, Francis Dyke Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) Chapple, Dr. William Allen
Adamson, William Bentham, G. J. Clancy, John Joseph
Addison, Dr. C. Bethell, Sir John Henry Clough, William
Agnew, Sir George William Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Ciynes, John R.
Ainsworth, John Stirling Black, Arthur W. Collins, Godfrey P. (Greanock)
Allen, Arthur Acland (Dumbartonshire) Boland, John Plus Collins, Stephen (Lambeth)
Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) Booth, Frederick Handel Condon, Thomas Joseph
Armitage, Robert Bowerman, C. W. Cotton, William Francis
Arnold, Sydney Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth)
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Brace, William Crawshay-Williams, Eliot
Atherley-Jones, Llewellyn A. Brady, P. J. Crean, Eugene
Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) Brocklehurst, W. B. Crumley, Patrick
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Bryce, J. Annan Cullinan, John
Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Buckmaster, Stanley O. Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy}
Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) Burke, E. Haviland- Davies, E. William (Eifion)
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Burns, Rt. Hon. John Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth)
Barnes, G. N. Buxton, Rt. Hon. S. C. (Poplar) Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.)
Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick) Byles, Sir William Pollard Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardiganshire).
Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) Carr-Gomm, H. W. Dawes, J. A.
Barton, W. Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) De Forest, Baron
Beale, Sir William Phipson Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) Delany, William
Denman, Hon. R. D. Kellaway, Frederick George Priestley, Sir W. E. 8. (Bradford, E.)
Devlin, Joseph Kennedy, Vincent Paul Priestley, Sir Arthur (Grantham)
Dickinson, W. H. Kilbride, Denis Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Dillon, John King, J. Pringle, William M. R.
Donelan, Captain A. Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) Radford, G. H.
Doris, W. Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Duffy, William J. Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough)
Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley) Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) Reddy, Michael
Elverston, Sir Harold Leach, Charles Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Levy, Sir Maurice Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Lewis, John Herbert Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.)
Essex, Richard Walter Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Richards, Thomas
Esslemont, George Birnie Low, Sir F. (Norwich) Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Falconer, J. Lundon, Thomas Richardson, Thomas (Whitehavan)
Farrell, James Patrick Lyell, Charles Henry Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Lynch, A. A. Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) Robinson, Sidney
Ffrench, Peter McGhee, Richard Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Field, William Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Fitzgibbon, John MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) Roe, Sir Thomas
Flavin, Michael Joseph Macpherson, James Ian Rowlands, James
France, G. A. MacVeagh, Jeremiah Rowntree, Arnold
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd M'Callum, Sir John M. Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Gilhooly, James M'Kean, John Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Gill, A. H. McKenna, Rt. Hon Reginald Samuel, J. (Stockton)
Ginnell, L. M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Leics.) Scanlan, Thomas
Gladstone, W. G. C. M'Laren, Hon. F. W. S. (Lincs., Spalding) Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir C. E.
Glanville, H. J. M'Micking, Major Gilbert Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B.
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Manfield, Harry Sheehy, David
Goldstone, Frank Markham, Sir Arthur Basil Sherwell, Arthur James
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Marks, Sir George Croydon Shortt, Edward
Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) Marshall, Arthur Harold Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Martin, J. Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Griffith, Ellis J. Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton)
Guest, Hon. Major C. H. C. (Pembroke) Meagher, Michael Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Snowden, Philip
Guiney, P. Menzies, Sir Walter Seames, Arthur Wellesley
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Millar, James Duncan Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Hackett, J. Molloy, M. Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N. W.)
Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Molteno, Percy Alport Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West)
Hancock, J. G. Mond, Sir Alfred Moritz Sutherland, J. E.
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Money, L. G. Chiozza Sutton, John E.
Hardie, J. Keir Mooney, J. J. Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) Morrell, Philip Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Morison, Hector Tennant, Harold John
Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Thomas, J. H.
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) Muldoon, John Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.) Munro, R. Thorne, William (West Ham)
Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Toulmin, Sir George
Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Nannetti, Joseph P. Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Needham, Christopher T. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Hayden, John Patrick Neilson, Francis Verney, Sir Harry
Hayward, Evan Nolan, Joseph Wadsworth, John
Hazleton, Richard Norton, Captain Cecil W. Walsh, Stephen (Lanc., Ince)
Healy, Timothy Michael (Cork, N. E.) Nugent, Sir Waiter Richard Walters, Sir John Tudor
Helme, Sir Norval Watson Nuttall, Harry Walton, Sir Joseph
Hemmerde, Edward George O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Wardle, George J.
Henry, Sir Charles O'Doherty, Philip Waring, Walter
Higham, John Sharp O'Donnell, Thomas Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Hinds, John Ogden, Fred Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. O'Grady, James Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Hodge, John O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) Watt, Henry A.
Hogge, James Myles O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) Webb, Henry
Holmes, Daniel Turner O'Malley, William White, J. Dundas (Glas., Tradeston)
Holt, Richard Durning O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E. R.)
Hope, John Deans (Haddington) O'Shaughnessy, P. J. White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) O'Shee, James John Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Howard, Hon. Geoffrey O'Sullivan, Timothy Whyte, Alexander F.
Hudson, Walter Outhwaite, R. L. Wiles, Thomas
Hughes, Spencer Leigh Palmer, Godfrey Mark Wilkie, Alexander
Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Parker, James (Halifax) Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Jardine, Sir John (Roxburghshire) Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough)
John, Edward Thomas Pearce, William (Limehouse) Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.)
Jones, Rt. Hon. Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea) Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton) Winfrey, Richard
Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas)
Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) Pirie, Duncan V. Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.)
Jones, Leif Stratten (Nots, Rushcliffe) Pointer, Joseph Young, W. (Perthshire, E.)
Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Pollard, Sir George H.
Jones, W. S. Glyn- (Stepney) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Jowett, Frederick William Power, Patrick Joseph TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Joyce, Michael Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Illingworth and Mr. Gulland.
Keating, M. Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Gastrell, Major W. Houghton O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid)
Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. Gibbs, G. A. Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A.
Anstruther-Gray, Major William Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Archer-Shee, Major M. Goldman, C. S. Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Goldsmith, Frank Parkes, Ebenezer
Baird, J. L. Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) Peel, Capt. R. F.
Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) Perkins, Walter F.
Balcarres, Lord Goulding, Edward Alfred Peto, Basil Edward
Baldwin, Stanley Grant, J. A. Pole-Carew, Sir R.
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gretton, John Pollock, Ernest Murray
Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S. E.) Pretyman, E. G.
Barnston, H. Guinness, Hon. W. E. (Bury S. Edmunds) Pryce-Jones, Colonel E.
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry) Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Quilter, Sir William Eley C.
Bathurst, C. (Wilts, Wilton) Haddock, George Bahr Randies, Sir John S.
Bonn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Rees, Sir J. D.
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- Hambro, Angus Valdemar Remnant, James Farquharson
Beresford, Lord C. Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Bigland, Alfred Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) Ronaldshay, Earl of
Blair, Reginald Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence Rothschild, Lionel de
Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) Harris, Henry Percy Royds, Edmund
Boyton, J. Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby)
Bridgeman, William Clive Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Bull, Sir William James Hewins, William Albert Samuel Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Burn, Colonel C. R. Hickman, Col. Thomas E. Sanders, Robert A.
Butcher, J. G. Hill, Sir Clement L. Sanderson, Lancelot
Campbell, Captain Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) Hills, J. W. Sassoon, Sir Philip
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. (Dublin Univ.) Hill-Wood, Samuel Scott, Leslie (Liverpool, Exchange)
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Hoare, S. J. G. Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (Liverp'l, Walton)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hohler, G. F. Spear, Sir John Ward
Cassel, Felix Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Stanier, Beville
Cator, John Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Cautley, Henry Strother Home, W. E. (Surrey, Guildford) Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Horner, A. L. Stewart, Gershom
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Houston, Robert Paterson Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Hume-Williams, W. E. Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Hunt, Rowland Talbot, Lord E.
Chambers, James Jardine, E. (Somerset, E.) Terrell, G. (Wilts, N. W.)
Chaplin, Rt. Hon Henry Jessel, Captain Herbert M. Terrell, H. (Gloucester)
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Clive, Captain Percy Archer Kerry, Earl of Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, N.)
Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham Kimber, Sir Henry Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Cory, Sir Clifford John Knight, Captain E. A. Touche, George Alexander
Courthope, George Loyd Lane-Fox, G. R. Tryon, Captain George Clement
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Larmor, Sir J. Valentia, Viscount
Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Lewisham, Viscount Warde, Col. C. E. (Kent, Mid.)
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Lloyd, G. A. Wheler, Granville C. H.
Craik, Sir Henry Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport)
Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Cripps, Sir C. A. Long, Rt. Hon. Waiter Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud
Croft, H. P. Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee Wills, Sir Gilbert
Dalziel, D. (Brixton) McCaw, William J. MacGeagh Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E. R.)
Danniss, E. R. B. Mackinder, H. J. Winterton, Earl
Duke, Henry Edward Macmaster, Donald Wolmer, Viscount
Eyrcs-Monsell, Bolton M M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Faber, George Denison (Clapham) Magnus, Sir Philip Worthington-Evans, L.
Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.) Mason, James F. (Windsor) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Falle, B. G. Meysey-Thompson, E. C. Wright, Henry Fitzherbert
Fell, Arthur Middlemore, John Throgmorton Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Mildmay, Francis Bingham Yerburgh, Robert A.
Fleming, Valentine Moore, William
Fletcher, John Samuel Newton, Harry Kottingham TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Foster, Philip Staveley Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Nield and Mr. Swift.
Gardner, Ernest