HC Deb 31 July 1907 vol 179 cc1084-6

10. "That a sum, not exceeding £9,758,100, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1908, for expenditure on the Army Services, including Army (Ordnance Factories), viz.:—

£
2. Medical Establishment, Pay, etc.. 460,000
3. Militia, Pay, Bounty, etc. 840,000
4. Imperial Yeomanry, Pay and Allowances. 410,000
£
5 Volunteer Corps, Pay and Allowances. 1,152,000
6 Quartering, Transport, and Remounts 1,909,000
8 Ordnance Department, Establishments and Genera] Stores. 620,000
11 Establishments for Military Education. 137,000
12 Miscellaneous Effective Services 67,000
13 War Office and Army Accounts Department 567,000
14 Half Pay, Retired Pay, and other Non-Effective Charges for Officers 1,714,000
15 Pensions and other Non-Effective Charges for Warrant Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers, Men, and others 1,709,000
16 Civil Superannuation, Compensation, Com passionate Allowances, and Gratuities. 173,000

The commitee divided: —Ayes, 304; Noes, 74. (Division List No. 361.)

AYES.
Abraham, William (Rhondda) Byles, William Pollard Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne)
Acland, Francis Dyke Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. Dunne,MajorE. Mart in (Walsall
Agnew, George William Carr-Gomm, H.W. Edwards, Enoch (Hanley)
Allen,A. Acland (Christchurch) Causton, Rt. Hn. RichardKnight Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor)
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Cawley, Sir Frederick Elibank, Master of
Ashton, Thomas Gair Chance, Frederick William Erskine, David C.
Asquith,Rt.Hn.Herbert Henry Channing, Sir Francis Allston Essex, R. W.
Astbury, John Meir Cheetham, John Frederick Esslemont, George Birnie
Baker, Sir John (Portsmouth) Cherry, Rt, Hon. R. R. Evans, Samuel T.
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Clough, William Eve, Harry Trelawney
Banner, John S. Harmood- Clynes, J. R. Everett, R. Lacey
Baring,Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Cobbold, Felix; Thornley Fenwick, Charles
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Ferens, T. R.
Barnes, G. N. Collins,Sir Wm.J.(S.Pancras,W Ferguson, R. C. Munro
Barren, Rowland Hirst Cooper, G. J. Fiennes, Hon. Eustace
Barry,Redmond J. (Tyrone,N.) Corbett,C.H. (Sussex,E.Gr'st'd Findlay, Alexander
Beauchamp, E. Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Flavin, Michael Joseph
Bell, Richard Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Freeman-Thomas, Freeman
Bellairs, Carlyon Cox, Harold Fuller, John Michael F.
Benn,Sir J.Williams (D'v'np'rt Cowan, W. H. Fullerton, Hugh
Benn,W.(T'w'r Hamlets, S.Geo Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Gibb, James (Harrow)
Bertram, Julius Crean, Eugene Gilhooly, James
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Cremer, Sir William Randal Gill, A.H.
Bowerman, C. W. Crooks, William Gladstone,Rt.Hn.Herbert John
Brace, William Crosfield, A. H. Glover, Thomas
Bramsdon, T. A. Crossley, William J. Goddard, Daniel Ford
Branch, James Curran, Peter Francis Gooch, George Peabody
Brigs, John Dalziel, James Henry Greenwood, G. (Peterborough)
Bright, J. A. Davies,David (.Montgomery Co. Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward
Brocklehurst, W. B. Davies. Ellis William (Eifion) Gurdon,Rt Hn. Sir W. Brampton
Brunner,J.F.L. (Lancs., Leigh) Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
Buchanan, Thomas Ryburn Davies, W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B,
Buckmaster, Stanley O. Dewar, Arthur (Edinburgh, S.) Halpin, J:
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Dickinson,W.H. (St.Pancras,N Harcourt, Right Hon. Lewis
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Duncan,C. (Burrow-in-Furness) Hardy, George A. (Suffolk)
Harmsworth, Cecil B. (Worc'r) Marks.G.Croydon (Launceston) Russell, T. W.
Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Marnham, F. J. Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Harwood, George Massie, J. Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Haworth, Arthur A. Masterman, C. F. G. Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde)
Hazel, Dr. A. E. Menzies, Walter Schwann,Sir C.E.(Manchester)
Hazleton, Richard Micklem, Nathaniel Scott,A.H. (Ashton under Lyne
Hedges, A. Paget Molteno, Percy Alport Seaverns, J. H.
Helme, Norval Watson Money, L. G. Chiozza Seddon, J.
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Montagu, E. S. Seely, Major J. B.
Henderson,J.M.(Aberdeen, W.) Montgomery, H. G. Shackleton, David James
Henry, Charles S. Mooney, J. J. Shaw, Rt. Hon. T. (Hawick B.)
Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe) Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall Sherwell, Arthur James
Hobhouse, Charles E. H. Morgan,J.Lloyd (Carmarthen) Shipman, Dr. John G.
Hodge, John Morrell, Philip Simon, John Allsebrook
Holden, E. Hopkinson Morse, L. L. Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John
Holland, Sir William Henry Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie
Holt, Richard Durning Murnaghan, George Snowden, P.
Hope, John Deans (Fife, West Murphy, John Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Horniman, Emslie John Murray, James Spicer, Sir Albert
Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Myer, Horatio Stanger, H. Y.
Hudson, Walter Napier, T. B. Stanley,Hn. A. Lyulph (Chesh.
Hyde, Clarendon Newnes, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw) Steadman, W. C.
Illingworth, Percy H. Nicholls, George Stewart, Halley (Greenock)
Isaacs, Rufus Daniel Nolan, Joseph Strachey, Sir Edward
Jacoby, Sir James Alfred Norman, Sir Henry Straus, B. S. (Mile End)
Jardine, Sir J. Norton, Capt. Cecil William Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon)
Jenkins, J. Nussey, Thomas Willans Stuart, James (Sunderland)
Jones, Sir D.Brynmor(Swansea O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Summerbell. T.
Jones, Leif (Appleby) O'Donnell, C. J. (Walworth) Sutherland, J. E.
Jones,William (Carnarvonshire O'Grady, J. Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Jordan, Jeremiah Parker, James (Halifax) Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Jowett, F. W. Partington, Oswald Tennant,Sir Edward (Salisbury
Joyce, Michael Paulton, James Mellor Thompson.J.W.H.(Somerset,E.
Kearley, Hudson E. Pearce, Robert (Staffs. Leek) Tomkinson. James
Kekewich, Sir George Pearce, William (Limehouse) Ure, Alexander
Kilbride, Denis Pearson, Sir W. D. (Colchester) Verney, F. W.
King, Alfred John (Knutsford) Pearson, W. H. M. (Suffolk,Eye Vivian, Henry
Laidlaw, Robert Philipps,Col.Ivor (S'thampton) Walker, H. De R. (Leicester)
Lambert, George Philipps, Owen C. (Pembroke) Walsh, Stephen
Lamont, Norman Pickersgill, Edward Hare Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, W.) Pirie, Duncan V. Ward,John (Stoke upon Trent)
Lea, Hugh Cecil (St. Pancras.E. Pollard, Dr. Ward,W.Dudley (Southampt'n
Lehmann, R. C. Price,C.E.(Edinburgh,Central) Waring, Walter
Lever,A.Levy (Essex,Harwich) Priestley, Arthur (Grantham) Wason,Rt Hn.E.(Clackmannan)
Levy, Sir Maurice Priestley,W.E.B. (Bradford, E. Wason,John Cathcart (Orkney
Lewis, John Herbert Radford, G. H. Waterlow, D. S.
Lough, Thomas Rainy, A. Rolland Watt, Henry A.
Lupton, Arnold Raphael, Herbert H. Wedgwood. Josiah C.
Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro' Weir, James Galloway
Lyell, Charles Henry Rees, J. D. White, George (Norfolk)
Lynch, H. B. Rendall, Athelstan White, J. D. (Dumbartonshire)
Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Richards,Thomas (W.Monm'th Whitehead, Rowland
Macdonald,J.M.(Falkirk B'ghs) Richards,T.F. (Wolverh'mpt'n Whitley, John Henry (Halifax
Mackarness, Frederic C. Richardson, A. Whittaker. Sir Thomas Palmer
Maclean, Donald Rickett,.J Compton Wiles, Thomas
Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Ridsdale, E. A. Williams,Llewelyn (Carmarth'n
Macpherson, J. T. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Wills, Arthur Walters
M'Callum, John M. Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
M'Crae, George Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.
M'Kenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Robertson,Sir G.Scott (Br'df'rd Wilson, P. W. (St. Pancras, S.)
M'Laren, Sir C. B. (Leicester) Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
M'Laren, H. D. (Stafford, W.) Robinson, S. Winfrey, R.
M'Micking, Major G. Robson, Sir William Snowdon Yoxall, James Henry
Maddison, Frederick Roe, Sir Thomas
Mallet, Charles E. Rogers, F. E. Newman TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr.
Manfield, Harry (Northants) Rose, Charles Day Whiteley and Mr. J. A.Pease.
Mansfield, H. Rendall (Lincoln Rowlands, J.
Markham, Arthur Basil Runciman, Walter
NOES.
Acland-Hood,Rt.Hn.Sir Alex.F Anstruther-Gray, Major Ashley, W. W.
Anson, Sir William Reynell Arkwright, John Stanhope Balcarres, Lord
Beach,Hn.Michael Hugh Hicks Fell, Arthur Randles, Sir John Scurrah
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Ratcliff, Major R. F.
Bowles, G. Stewart Forster, Henry William Rawlinson,John Frederick Peel
Boyle, Sir Edward Gretton, John Roberts,S.(Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Hay, Hon. Claude George Sloan, Thomas Henry
Brotherton, Edward Allen Hervey,F.W.F.(BuryS.Ed'mds Smith,Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Bull, Sir William James Hill, Sir Clement (Shrewsbury) Smith.F.E. (Liverpool, Walton
Butcher, Samuel Henry Hills, J. W. Stanley,Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk
Carlile, E. Hildred Houston, Robert Paterson Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staff'sh,)
Castlereagh, Viscount Hunt, Rowland Stone, Sir Benjamin
Cave, George Keswick, William Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Cavendish,Rt.Hn. Victor C.W. Lockwood,Rt,Hn.Lt.-Col. A.R. Thomson. W. Mitchell-(Lanark)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Lonsdale, John Brownlee Thornton, Percy M.
Cecil, Lord John P. Joicey- Lowe, Sir Francis William Valentia, Viscount
Coates, E. Feetham (Lewisham Lyttelton, Rt, Hon. Alfred Vincent. Col. Sir C, E. Howard
Cochrane, Hn. Thos. H. A. E. Meysey-Thompson, E. C. Willonghby de Eresby, Lord
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow Mildmay, Francis Bingham Wilson, A. Stanley (York.E.R
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Morpeth, Viscount Wortley,Rt,.Hon. C B. Stuart-
Courthope, G. Loyd Muntz, Sir Philip A. Wyndham. Rt. Hon. George
Craig, CharlesCurtis(Antrim,S. Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield) Younger, George
Doughty. Sir George O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
Douglas. Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Parkes, Ebenezer TELLERS FOR THE NOES —Mr.
Du Cros, Harvey Pease, HerbertPike)Darlington Fletcher and Mr. Nield.
Faber, George Denison (York) Powell, Sir Francis Sharp

Question put, and agreed to.

£
Ordnance Factories 100
£9,758,100"
MR.CROOKS (Woolwich)

protested against this Vote being taken without an opportunity being given of discussing the discharges of men from the Woolwich Arsenal.