EDUCATION (ENGLAND AND WALES) BILL.

HC Deb 13 November 1902 vol 114 cc943-1032

Considered in Committee,

(In the Committee).

[Mr. J. W. LOWTHER (Cumberland, Penrith) in the Chair].

Clause 13:—

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 35, to leave out the words from the word 'Part,' to the end of line 44." —(Sir Charles Dilke)

Question again proposed— That the words 'and the County Council stand part of the Clause.

(9.3) MR.SAMUEL EVANS

in resuming said the original intention of the Government was to put the whole expenditure on

the parishes, but, becoming frightened, they had introduced certain limitations. He objected to the Amendment in the interests of education, for he believed the Government were putting a premium on inefficient education and on denominational schools because they were inviting the small parishes to object to the provision of new schools and the improvement of old schools. The result would be that there would be a great display of energy on the part of those who were in favour of a diminution in the rates of the locality, to prevent the County Councils substituting efficient for inefficient schools.

MR. BOUSFIELD (Hackney, N.)

said no one would contend that the scheme of the sub-Section was perfect, and any scheme of this nature must always be open to criticism. He thought that the poorer parishes would suffer under this provision, and he certainly could not see why the poverty of a parish should not be taken into consideration by the Council. It was suggested that the sub-Clause would put a premium on denominational schools. This, in fact, seemed to be a Bill in which religion was cropping up from every quarter. If it were the object of the Clause to put that premium on denominational schools, he for one would not object. No one would suspect him of being a believer in the special doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, but he would rather see children educated in a Roman Catholic, Wesleyan, or Church school than in a board school. He had more regard to the effect and advantage of religious impressions made by those who had earnest convictions than he had for a religion founded on secular teaching. Therefore, he preferred denominational schools. If the Clause gave a preference to denominational schools, it certainly treated them all with equal fairness.

(9.13) Question put—

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 155; Noes, 72. (Division List No. 506.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Beckett, Ernest William
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Bain, Colonel James Robert	Bignold, Arthur
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Baldwin, Alfred	Bigwood, James
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Balfour, Rt.Hon.A.J.(Manch'r	Blundell, Colonel Henry
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W.(Leeds	Bond, Edward
Arrol, Sir William	Bartley, George C. T.	Bousfield, William Robert
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hickman, Sir Alfred	Randles, John S.
Brymer, William Ernest	Hoare. Sir Samuel	Rankin, Sir James
Bullard, Sir Harry	Hogg. Lindsay	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Carlile, William Walter	Hope. J. F. (Sheffield. Brightside	Reid, James (Greenock)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Hoult, Joseph	Remnant, James Farquharson
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.)	Howard, John (Kent, Fav'rsh'm	Renshaw, Charles Bine
Cavendish, V.C. W. (Derbyshire	Hudson. George Bickersteth	Renwick, George
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Hutton. John (Yorks, N. R.)	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Cecil. Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J.A.(Worc	Kennaway, Rt. Hon Sir John H.	Robertson. Herbert (Hackney)
Chapman, Edward	Kennedy Patrick James	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Charrington, Spencer	Kenyon, Hon, Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Round, Rt, Hon. James
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Keswick, William	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Cox. Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Kimber, Henry	Rutherford, John
Crossley. Sir Savile	king, Sir Henry Seymour	Sackville, Col. S.G. Stopford-
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm	Sadler. Col Samuel Alexander
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Low, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Skewes-Cox. Thomas
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Llewellyn. Evan Henry	Smith Abel H. (Hertford East
Dorington, Rt Hon. Sir John E.	Lockie, John	Smith, H C (North'mb, Tyneside
Doughty, George	Loder Gerald Walter Erskine	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Long, Col Charles W.(Evesham	Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Long, Rt, Hn. Walter (Bristol, S	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Duke, Henry Edward	Lowe. Francis William	Stock, James Henry
Fellowes, Hon, Ailwyn Edward	Long, Rt, Hn Walter (Bristol,S	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Duke, Henry Edward	Lowe, Francis William	Stock, James Henry
Fellowes, Hon, AilwynEdward	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J(Manc'r	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Stroyan, John
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Macdona, John Cumming	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Finch, George H.	MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Thomson, Dr EC (Monagh'n,N
Fisher, William Hayes	Maxwell. W.J H (Dumfriesshire	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Flannery. Sir Fortescue	Milvain, Thomas	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Forster, Henry William	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Tully, Jasper
Forster, Philip S.(Warwick. S. W	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire	Valentia, Viscount
Gibbs,Hon A.G.H.(City of Lond.	Morrell, George Herbert	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Gibbs, Hon, Vicary(St. Albans)	Morrison. James Archibald	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Godson, Sir Angustus Frederick	Murray, Rt Hn. A Graham (Bute	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Wilson, Jehn (Glasgow)
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Nolan, Col.John P. (Calway,N.	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Groves, James Grimble	Orr-Ewing. Charles Lindsay	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E.R.(Bath
Guthrie, Walter Murray	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Hall, Edward Marshall	Parker. Sir Gilbert	Wylie, Alexander
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G(Midd'x	Plummer. Walter R.	Wyndham, Quin, Major W. H.
Hardy Laurence (Kent, Ashford	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Haslett Sir James Horner	Pretyman, Ernest George	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Purvis, Robert	Sir Alexander Acland-
Helder, Augustus	Pym C. Guy	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Shackleton, David James
Allen, Charles P (Gloue., Stroud	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Helme. Norval Watson	Slnelair, John (Forfarshire)
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Sloan, Thomas Henry
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Soares, Ernest J.
Brigg, John	Jacoby, James Alfred	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C R(Northants
Broadhurst, Henry	Jones David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Langley, Batty	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr
Bryce. Rt. Hon. James	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Toulmin, George
Burt, Thomas	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Caldwell, James	Leng, Sir John	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Cawley, Robert	Levy, Maurice	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Weir, James Galloway
Channing, Francis Allston	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	White, George (Norfolk)
Craig, Robert Hunter	M'Crae, George	White, Luke (York, E.R.
Cremer, William Randal	Moss, Samuel	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Whittakar, Thomas Palmer
Davies, M Vaughan-(Cardigan	Norman, Henry	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid
Dilke. Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.
Edwards. Frank	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidst'ne	Roberts, John H (Denbighs.)	Woodhouse, Sir. J T (Huddersfi'd
Fenwick, Charles	Robertson. Edmund (Dundee)	Yoxall, James Henry
Furness, Sir Christopher	Runciman, Walter
		TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland	Mr. Samuel Evans and
Grant, Corrie	Schwann, Charles E.	Mr Alfred Mutton.

MR. RUNCIMAN

said he moved the, Amendment standing in his name in order to get an expression of opinion from the President of the Local Government Board

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 36, after the word 'shall,' to insert the words, subject to notice to the local education authority.'"—(Mr. Runciman.)

Question proposed, "That those words there inserted."

MR WALTER LONG

said the intention of the Amendment was that before certain action was taken the authority notice should he given. As a matter of fact he did not think that it was possible to take action without notice and full explanation of what it intended to do. He would, however, deal with the matter on the Report stage.

MR. BRYCE

pointed out that the time for discussing these matters Was very limited.

SIR JOHN BRUNNER

Will the right hon. Gentlemen himself put the necessary Amendment down?

MR. WALTER LONG

If I think it necessary I will do so.

MR. RUNCIMAN

Then I ask leave to withdraw my Amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

(9.30.) MR. HERBERT LEWIS

said he begged to move to leave out "shall" in line 36, in order to insert "may, if they think fit." These were the words in sub-Section (a) and if there was to be un-limited discretion in relation to secondary education, why should there not be the same discretion with reference to elementary education? The Leader of the house stated that he objected to liabilities incurred in the past being saddled on the ratepayers, and to meet that objection he would be willing to limit his Amendment to the future. But as regarded the future, he considered that the discretion of the County Council should be unlimited, both on educational grounds, and also on grounds of fairness to poor parishes. He would take the case of two adjoining parishes, both equal in point of area, and both having the same educational needs and requirements. In one parish there might be important railway or other works, which would give it an enormous advantage. The other parish might have a small rateable value, Id. in the £ producing perhaps only £10 or £20 a year. The County Council might be convinced that the poorer parish should have a provided school, but its rating liability might be as heavy as it could reasonably be called upon to bear. Why should not the County Council have full discretion in such a case to bear such portion of the capital expenditure as it thought fit. Therefore, on educational grounds he hoped the Amendment would be accepted. There was no question of principle as between the Prime Minister and himself, as the right hon. Gentleman had conceded the principle in the Amendment he had put down, and it was now only a question of amount. They should trust the local authorities. The natural jealousy of the ratepayers as a whole would prevent any injustice being done; and the County Council would exercise its power in such a way as to do justice to a poor parish and. the educational needs of that parish.

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 36, to leave out the word 'shall' and insert the words 'may if they think fit,"—(Mr. Herbert Lewis)

Question proposed, "That the word shall ' stand part of the Clause."

SIR ROBERT FINLAY

said he hoped the Committee would not accept the Amendment. The hon. Gentleman said that there was no reason for any difference in the wording of sub-Section (a) and of sub-Section (c). He thought there was every reason for difference. Sub-Section (a) was intended to provide for strictly exceptional cases, where. there were special circumstances and where it was necessary to have some branch of secondary education; and while the Government recognised that secondary education should be borne by the rate over the whole county, sub-Section (a) provided that a Council might, if they thought fit, charge the cost of a secondary school to the particular locality having the sole use to it. Sub-Section (c), on the other hand, dealt with the case of providing, buildings for the purposes of elementary education; and they had to look at the existing state of things. There were a certain number of parishes where schools had been provided, and they were free of debt. (An HON. MEMBER: "Not free of debt.") In a great many cases the schools were free of debt, and were provided by either private or public effort. These parishes were in a different position from parishes where no schools were provided, and should not be called upon to assume the burden of providing schools for other parishes after they had provided their own. There was an Amendment on the Paper in the name of the First Lord of the Treasury which gave a certain discretion as to the amount which might be advanced. He thought it was reasonable; and anyone looking at the question all round must admit that the locality which had yet to provide its schools should bear a certain share of the burden, as otherwise a gross inequality would be established between localities who had schools and localities who had no schools. That would not be just; and he hoped the Committee would not accept the Amendment.

MR. LLOYD-GEORGE

said he fully admitted that the Amendment standing in the name of the Premier did not meet the case to a very considerable extent, but he thought it would he better if more discretion were given to the County Council. He did not think there was any real danger of the County Council abusing that discretion, because the instinct of the ratepayer would be to cast the whole of the burden on special localities, and the Council might depend on it that if the cost were distributed over the whole county it would be for very good reasons. He was passing through Glamorgan recently with a County Inspector, and he pointed out a parish in which the rates in one year went up to 3s. 6d. in the £. It seemed to him almost incredible. The reason, the inspector said, was that there was no voluntary school, no squire living in the parish, no rich people, no works and no large farms. It contained poor, mountainous soil, and by the Education Act of 1870 the people in the parish were obliged to provide a school. As a result, the cost of education was kept down as much as possible, yet the pro[...]sion of a small school, as cheaply as possible, raised the rates to 3s. 6d. in the £. He did not think that the Amendment of the right hon. Gentle man would meet a case of that sort. A county like Glamorgan would very largely draw for the development of its resources on the very type of men brought up in little mountain parishes, and they made some of the best men in Cardiff, Swansea, and the Rhondda Valley. These men in the parishes like that mentioned were trained not for shepherds on the mountains but to develop the resources of the rich valleys in Glamorgan. If the poor parish he had mentioned went to the County Council of Glamorgan and said "Will you assist us to bear the burden of a little school—we could not help building it?" he had not the slightest hesitation in saving that the rich County Council of Glamorgan would reply "Certainly," and they would not consider whether they would give half or two-thirds, but would just ask what was fair. The real danger in giving, discretion in a case of that kind was that pressure might be brought to bear; but those-little poor parishes were just the parishes that could not bring pressure. They had only got the influence exerted by the development of their circumstances, and that was the influence which it was not fair for the House of Commons to resist. In a case like that quoted, why should a rich County Council like that of Glamorgan be prevented from taking all the circumstances into account and saying they would help the parish out of its difficulty? Why should they limit the discretion of the County Council?

MR. LAURENCE HARDY (Kent, Ashford)

said he hoped the Government would not accept the Amendment. He thought that many hon. Members felt that the proposal in the Amendment of the Prime Minister went as far as they ought to go with reference to the matter. The hon. Member who had just spoken said it would be very easy for a rich County Council to provide for special cases, but he would remind the hon. Gentleman that Cardiff, Swansea, and the other districts to which he referred, would be excluded from the administrative county which would have to bear the particular charge in the case he mentioned, and that charge would have to fall on poor districts which had already schools, and which would have to bear in consequence a heavier burden. [An HON. MEMBER: Not unless they wished.] They would have to bear an additional burden whether they wished it or not, because they would have to pay the county rate out of which the schools would be provided.

MR. LLOYD-GEORGE

said that the hon. Gentleman had misapprehended the Amendment. The Amendment was not to compel the County Council to assist to any extent; it wits simply to give them discretion.

Mr. LAURENCE HARDY

said the Amendment would throw the option entirely the other way. Small districts which had provided their own schools should not have a rate imposed on them in connection with the capital expenditure for the provision of schools in other localities.

MR. SYDNEY BUXTON

said he thought the hon. Gentleman was not present when the Committee was discussing sub-Section (a). On that sub-Section the whole point of the Government's position was—and he thought there was a good deal of force in it—that the general system should be a county rate, but that there might be exceptional circumstances in regard to certain districts which would induce a County Council to throw some part of the cost on a particular locality. He could understand that position, but he could not understand the attitude of the Government in connection with sub-Section (c). Surely the same argument applied with equal and even greater force. All that was desired by the Amendment was to give the County Councils some latitude in particular cases. He agreed with the Attorney General that it would be hard to make one compulsory universal rate, which would fall on districts which had already provided their own schools, and which would be mulcted for places which had neglected their duty, but he hoped that Government would reconsider their decision and allow County Councils to have an option to deal with particular cases of hardship, which would be certain to arise.

SIR JOHN BRUNNER

said that, like the Attorney General, he disliked gross inequalities, and if he were of opinion that the Amendment would produce them he would not support it. It was because he desired to leave it to the County Council to do away with gross inequalities that he supported the Amendment. The hon. Gentleman the Member for Carnarvon Burghs had mentioned the case of the mountain parish in Wales being compelled to provide a school. He knew another case where a parish was compelled to build a school at a time when there was ample employment for all the adult male population, but the employment disappeared, and now only a few farmers remained, who were in the direst trouble. He knew another case where a manufacturer built a village. There were no other houses in the village except workmen's cottages, and before the property qualification for Boards of Guardians was abolished there was not a man in the village qualified to be a Guardian. Employment in that neighbourhood had now greatly diminished, and the people were in dire trouble. In the adjoining parish, where well-to-do people lived, a school was erected by public subscription at no great sacrifice. There they had two adjoining parishes, one well-to-do, the other dull, with small cottages naked and in a row; and it was because he desired that the County Council should have the option of redressing such inequalities that he heartily supported the Amendment.

DR. MACNAMARA (Camberwell, N.)

said both the Amendment and the Clause dealt with the capital charge for the provision of new schools. With reference to liabilities already incurred, he thought that a progressive, poverty-stricken parish which had provided itself with a school, ought to have its liabilities met out of the county rate. The liabilities ought to be pooled. He was alone in that. [HON. MEMBERS: No, no.] He was glad to hear he was not; but that was not the issue now. The issue was, What was to be the incidence of the capital charge for the provision of new schools? He earnestly hoped it would be the county rather than the parish. The Government believed that education should be in the main a national charge. Surely it was the county rather than the parish that should meet whatever charge would be put on the localities. The curse of the Act of 1870, which had made the present Bill possible to many, was that it took the parish as the unit of administration and financial obligation. He remembered the First Lord of the Treasury relating to the House how many poor parishes there were which had a rate of 30d. in the £ to meet its administrative machinery. The right hon. Gentleman was wrong as regarded the 30d., although the amount was large, but if the Bill were to get rid of such difficulties, it was now for the Government to act. At present 25 percent. of the English School Board parishes had a rate which ranged from 1s. to 3s. 6d. In Wales in 33 per cent. of the School Board parishes the rate ranged from is. to 3s. 6d. That was the result of taking the parish as the unit of financial administration. He (the hon. Member) would rather contrast parishes where a penny rate brought in only £2 10s. with others where it produced a bout£300. How could parishes where a penny rate brought in only £2 10s. resist the blandishments of any denomination who offered them a building at no charge? Such parishes would then be committed to a denominational school as long as this Act remained unrepealed. Surely the County Councils should have a discretion so that they might help these poverty-stricken districts. A stronger case could not be made out than that for the Amendment, and he hoped it would be agreed to.

(10.0.) MR. WALTER LONG

said no one could deny the power and authority with which the hon. Member for North Camberwell spoke on these questions, but he thought the hon. Gentleman had, unintentionally no doubt, put the case in a false light. He had more than once said that education was a national object.

DR. MACNAMARA

I said "in the main."

MR. WALTER LONG

Very well, in the main. It was all very well for hon. Gentlemen opposite to attack the Government, and to describe its action in their own phraseology, and to talk about education being in the main a national object. What had been done by the different parties in the House towards making education a national object? So far as assistance to education from national funds was concerned, he thought the subventions had come almost entirely from one side of the House. The Government had given proof, not only in the present, but in the past, of their desire that the nation should bear a fair share of the cost of national education. But this was a totally different question, and had nothing to do with national education. It was a question as between different parishes in a county. The hon. Member had spoken of the poverty-stricken parish being called upon to provide a school, but he forgot the parish, equally poverty-stricken, which by great efforts and at great sacrifices had provided a school. Was such a parish to be rated in order to find schools for other parishes? Was not one side of the picture as much entitled to consideration as the other The difficulty they were in in this matter vas a difficulty they always encountered in approaching questions of local government; that was, that they could not approach the question as if there was no past history or previous action connected with it. Was there any detail in local government as to which they would not have taken a different course to that they had taken if they had been working on new ground altogether? They had to deal with things, not as they would like them to be, but as they found them. There were many places in the country in which remarkable efforts had been made to provide schools, and yet it was suggested that these places were to be rated to provide schools in places where no provision at all had been made locally. The proposal of the Bill, taking facts as they were, was the fairest that could be made, and he hoped the Committee would not adopt an Amendment which he believed would work great injustice.

MR. BRYCE

desired to recall one great principle of the Bill. The Bill did not declare that education was a national charge, but it declared that it was a county charge; that was the basis of the whole Bill; that was to say, that the county was to bring up all its schools to the same level, and he contended that it was a great deviation from that principle to refuse to allow the County Council when it thought a case had been made out, to throw the cost of providing a particular school on the county. One of the great evils connected with education in rural districts was the defectiveness of tho buildings; in many cases they were too small, in others insanitary. In nothing was the bringing in of the county likely to do more good than in the provision of better buildings. If, however, a poor parish was always to bear the charge of building a new school or enlarging its existing school, the representatives of the parish would go to the County Council and beg them not to insist on the expenditure because of the burden it would throw on the parish. It was really in the interests of efficient education that the County Councils should be allowed a discretion.

MR. SAMUEL EVANS

pointed out that under the proposal of the Government the County Council, without exercisingany discretion at all, was to make poor parishes, if they could, pay for all their future schools. The result would be that the small parishes would be either without improved or new schools or they would fall hack on the old bad system of denominational education. The principle of the Amendment was the equalisation of the charge. The broader they made the field the easier would be the burden, and obviously the area of the county would make the burden easier than the area of the parish. The Amendment was really enforced in the strongest possible manlier by a proposal which the Prime Minister had placed on the Paper. First of all it was intended that there

should be no discretion whatever, but there was now to be a sort of truncated discretion. If an expenditure of £300 was proposed, according to the Prime Minister, the parish was to he made to pay not less than £150 or more than £225 of it. The discretion of the County Council, which had been so much preached on the other side, was to be measured by pounds, shillings and pence, and it was to be between the sums of £150 and £225. The Amendment placed no compulsion on the County Council; it simply enabled them so to provide that the richer parishes helped the poorer in the provision of new schools. There was really no difference between the Prime Minister and his hon. friend; the former proposed that certain things should be done if the County Council thought fit while the latter suggested that certain things might be done if the County Council thought fit. Sound sense was entirely in favour of the Amendment and he hoped it would be carried.

MR. WHITLEY (Halifax)

said that if the word "shall" were read in conjunction with an Amendment shortly to be moved by the First Lord of the Treasury, it would be seen that the richest parishes would only have to pay three-fourths of the cost of building a school, the remaining fourth being paid by the poorer parishes. It was truly a case of "To them that hath shall be given."

(10.18.) Question put.

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 214 Noes, 100. (Division List, No. 507.)

Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Kennedy, Patrick James	Ratcliff, R. F.
Davies, Sir Horatio D(Chatham	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Reid, James (Greenock)
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Keswick, William	Remnant, James Farquharson
Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Kimber, Henry	Renshaw, Charles Bine
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Renwick, George
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Knowles, Lees	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Doughty, George	Lambton, Hn. Frederick Wm.	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Law, Andrew Ronan (Glasgow	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Duke, Henry Edward	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lee, Arthur H. (Hants, Fareham	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Rutherford, John
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Sackville. Col. S. G. Stopford-
Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J.(Manc'r	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Lockie, John	Sandys, Lient.-Col. Thos. Myles
Finch. George H.	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Seely, Maj. J. E.B.(Isle of Wight
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Long, Col. Chas. W. (Evesham)	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Fisher, William Hayes	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Fison, Frederick William	Lowe, Francis William	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon	Loud, Archie Kirkman	Smith, H C(North'mb, Tyneside
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Macdona, John Cumming	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Flower, Ernest	MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Forster, Henry William	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Foster, Philip S (Warwick, S.W	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Gardner, Ernest	Malcolm, Ian	Stock, James Henry
Gibbs, Hn. A G H (City of Lond.	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Gibbs Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	Maxwell, W J H (Dumfriesshire	Stroyan. John
Godson, Sir. Augustus Frederick	Milvain, Thomas	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Thompson, Dr. E C (Monagh'n, N
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Morgan, David J (Walth'mstow	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Greene, Sir EW(B'rySEdm'nds	Morrell, George Herbert	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury	Morrison, James Archibald	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Groves, James Grimble	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Tully, Jasper
Guthrie, William Murray	Mount, William Arthur	Valentia, Viscount
Hall, Edward Marshall	Murray, Rt Hn Graham (Bute	Vincent, Col Sir C. E. H. (Sheff'ld
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Myers. William Henry	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H
Handy, Lawrence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Nicholson, William Graham	Warde, Col. C. E.
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Hay, Hon Claude George	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.	Whiteley, H (Ashton und. Lyne
Helder, Augustus	O'Doherty, William	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Hickman, Sir Alfred	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wilson, J. W, (Worcestersh. N.)
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Hogg, Lindsay	Parkes, Ebenezer	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E.R.(Bath)
Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Percy, Earl	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart-
Hoult, Joseph	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	Plummper, Walter R.	Wylie, Alexander
Hozier, Hon James Henry Cecil	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Pretyman, Ernest George	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Hutton, John (Yorks. N.R.)	Purvis, Robert
Jameson. Major Eustace	Pym, C. Guy
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Randles, John S.	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Kemp, George	Rankin, Sir James	Sir Alexander Acland-
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan
Allen, Charles P (Gloue., Stroud	Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Burt, Thomas	Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Atherley-Jones, L.	Buxton, Sydney Charles	Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Caldwell James	Dunn, Sir William
Bayley, Thomas(Derbyshire)	Cameron. Robert	Edwards, Frank
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Cawley, Frederick	Emmett, Alfred
Bell, Richard	Channing, Francis Allston	Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Craig, Robert Hunter	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)
Brigg, John	Cremer, William Randal	Fenwick, Charles
Broadhurst, Henry	Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Ferguson, R.C. Munro (Leith)

Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Furness, Sir Christopher	Mather, Sir William	Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings
Gladstone, Rt. Herbert John	Moss, Samuel	Thomas, J A (Glamorgan, Gower
Grant, Corrie	Newnes, Sir George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Norman, Henry	Toulmin, George
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Philipps, John Wynford	Trevelvan, Charles Philips
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale-	Priestley, Arthur	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Helme, Norval Watson	Rea, Russell	Walton, Joseph (Bartisley)
Hemphill Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Rickett, J. Compton	Weir, James Galloway
Horniman, Frederick John	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	White, George (Norfoldk)
Humphrey-Owen, Arthur C.	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Robertson. Edmund (Dundee)	Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Jacoby, James Alfred	Roe, Sir Thomas	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Runciman, Walter	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Kearley, Hudson F.	Samuel, Herbert, L(Cleveland)	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid.
Kitson, Sir James	Schwann, Charles E.	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W R)
Langley, Batty	Shackleton, David James	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Layland-Barratt, Francis	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Woodhonse, Sir. J T. (Huddersf'd
Leigh, Sir Joseph	Shipman, Dr. John G.	Yoxall, James Henry
Leng, Sir John	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Levy, Maurice	Sloan, Thomas Henry
Lloyd-George, David	Soares, Ernest J	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	Spencer. Rt Hn. C. R. (Northants	Mr. Herbert Lewis and
M'Crae, George	Taylor, Theodore C.(Radcliffe	Dr. Macnamara.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

I beg to move the Amendment standing in my name. This question has already been discussed, and in the present condition of the discussion of the Bill, I think I shall best serve the general interest if I move the Amendment without words.

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 36. after the word 'charge,' to insert the words 'such portion as they think not being less than one-half or more than three-fourths of."'—(Mr. A. J. Balfour.)

MR BRYCE

I think the right hon. Gentleman's Amendment is better than nothing.

MR. RUNCIMAN

moved to amend the proposed Amendment by leaving out the words "being less than one-half or."

Amendment to the Amendment nagatived.

Amendment agreed to.

(10.35.) MR. HERBERT ROBERTS

moved the omission of sub-Section (d). He said that he did so upon two main grounds. In the first place because he thought it ought to be omitted in fairness to the ratepayers, and in the second place because he thought it would be a good thing for education. If it was right in the case of the building of a new school that the County Council should provide half the cost, upon what ground could it be said that the same treatment should not be dealt out to existing schools. He could not see himself that there was the slightest difference between the two cases. He moved this Amendment also upon the general ground of equality of treatment. The First Lord of the Treasury, earlier in the proceedings, upon another Amendment, made a point of the fact that those chool Districts which had not had a School Board rate ought not to be penalised for having contributed to districts which had had a school board rate. The President of the Local Government Board snore than once pointed out that it would be grossly unfair upon those districts which had avoided the rate that they should be penalized by having to contribute anything to the liabilities incurred by the poorer districts. But where did the sacrifice really lie? Was it not more true to say that those districts which had for the last twenty or twenty-five years paid the rate should receive more considerate treatment? The principle of this Amendment was the broad one of equal rating treatment throughout the county, and this equality of rating treatment could only, upon the whole, be secured by equal rating, and by enabling the local education authority to lay, as far as possible, equal rates upon every district in the county. There was only one further remark which he desired to make. He thought the Committee had not sufficiently realised that these School Board districts under this Bill would not be exactly in the sane condition as they bad been up to now. It was quite a different thing to ask any School Board district to continue to be liable for their debts when they bad popularly elected managers, and to ask them to do so under the provisions of this Bill. All these considerations pointed to the fairness of treatment which would be established by his Amendment. He begged to move the Amendment standing in his name.

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 41, to leave out sub-Section (d)—(Mr. Herbert Roberts.)

Question proposed, "That the words 'the County Council shall' stand part of the Clause."

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

The Bill as it stands, and as it will be amended by a Government Amendment standing in the name of the Secretary to the Board of Education—I beg pardon, standing in my own name—will leave the charge exactly where it is at present, and that, broadly, may and will meet the equities of the case were it not that they handed over to the County Council all the money under the Act of 1897. If we handed over that money to the County Council for the general purposes of education, we think it only fair that, in return for that surrender, a certain proportion of the debt thrown on the locality should be' borne by the general area over which the local education authority presided. That is the justification of the sub-Section as it will be amended, I hope, by my Amendment, and I hope that justification will seem sufficient to the Committee.

SIR CHARLES DILKE

said it was believed that, even with the Amendment of the right hon. Gentleman, many districts would be much worse off than they were under the Necessitous School Boards Act.

MR. A. J. BALFOUR

Everybody-thinks they will be worse off.

SIR CHARLES DILKE

said that this proposal did not hand the money over to the county. If the Bill had not been amended at all the money would not have issued, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer would have benefited by it. This was an oversight which the Government had now attempted to correct by the Amendment of the Leader of the House. It was still believed that this Amendment would make those districts worse off than they were under the Necessitous Schools Grant. They would be very badly off as compared with the county as a whole, and there was no ground why this should not He a charge on the whole of the area instead of being a charge upon the poor districts. He was sure any hon. Member of this House would admit that there was an extremely hard case where parishes had been lumped together, for they were very often parishes in which the question of the Church and Nonconformity did not arise. But the real point was that they lost the whole of the local control. They would have no vestige of any special interest in the school, and yet the debt on that school would remain with them instead of going to the county area. These were such extremely hard cases that the Government would be bound to find some remedy for them between now and the Report stage. He heartily supported the Amendment of his hon. friend.

DR. MACNAMARA

said that those districts which had rated themselves for schools in the past should be enabled now to meet their liabilities out of the country rate. There were many parishes which had incurred liabilities because they set themselves rigidly against denominationalism and provided schools. In order to do this they had paid rates ranging from 1s. to 3s. 6d., and now it was proposed that, over and above the county rate, they were to be rated for having pursued a policy of progressivism rather than of obscurantism. Nothing could be more unfair. He instanced the parish of Roseland, in Cornwall, where the people had paid a rate of 1s. 10½d. In that parish 1d. in the £14 brought in £14, so that the yield of the rate imposed was about £300. They had paid that rate freely, while possibly their neighbours in the adjoining parishes had not rated themselves a farthing. These good people in Roseland had a liability of £3,600 to meet, and now, in addition to the county rate, they would have to pay in respect of that liability until the debt was wiped out. He quoted that case at random as illustrating what would happen, and it was not an extreme case. Indeed, it was a very moderate case. If the First Lord thought that these people were likely to look with favour on education in future he was very much afraid the right hon. Gentleman was mistaken.

SIR BRAMPTON GURDON (Norfolk, N.)

urged that the provided schools should be put on the same basis as the voluntary schools in respect of the rent of teachers' houses. He had given notice of an Amendment to that effect, and he hoped the Government would put words into the Clause for that purpose.

MR. CHANNING

said he spoke as the representative of several School Board districts where there had been a heavy outlay on schools with a very heavy rate, and which were Necessitous School Boards, He wished to enter his emphatic protest against the sub-Section in its original form, and also against the inadequate remedy offered by the First Lord at the last moment in regard to districts which had, with great public spirit and enormous sacrifices, provided themselves with excellent schools.

(10.53.) Question put.

'That the words 'The County Council shall' stand part of the Clause.'"

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 232; Noes, 128. (Division List No. 508.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Bigwood, James	Cayzer, Sir Charles William
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Blundell, Colonel Henry	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Bond, Edward	Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Chamberlain, Rt Hn. JA (Wroc.
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Bousfield, William Robert	Chapman, Edward
Arrol, Sir William	Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Charrington, Spencer
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Brookfield, Col. Montagu	Clare, Octavious Leigh
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Brymer, William Ernest	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.
Balcarres, Lord	Bullard Sir Harry	Cohen, Benjamin Louis
Baldwin, Alfred	Burdett-Coats, W.	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A.J.(Manch'r	Butcher, John George	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Carlile, William Walter	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge
Bartley, George C. T.	Cautley, Henry Strother	Cranborne, Viscount
Beckett, Ernest William	Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Crossley, Sir Savile
Bignold, Arthur	Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Cubitt, Hon. Henry
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Kennedy, Patrick James	Ratcliff, R. F.
Davies, Sir Horatio D(Chatham	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Reid, James (Greenock)
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Keswick, William	Remnant, James Farquharson
Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Kimber, Henry	Renshaw, Charles Bine
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Renwick, George
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Knowles, Lees	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Doughty, George	Lambton, Hn. Frederick Wm.	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Law, Andrew Ronan (Glasgow	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Duke, Henry Edward	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lee, Arthur H. (Hants, Fareham	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Rutherford, John
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Sackville. Col. S. G. Stopford-
Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J.(Manc'r	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Lockie, John	Sandys, Lient.-Col. Thos. Myles
Finch. George H.	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Seely, Maj. J. E.B.(Isle of Wight
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Long, Col. Chas. W. (Evesham)	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Fisher, William Hayes	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Fison, Frederick William	Lowe, Francis William	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon	Loud, Archie Kirkman	Smith, H C(North'mb, Tyneside
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Macdona, John Cumming	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Flower, Ernest	MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Forster, Henry William	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Foster, Philip S (Warwick, S.W	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Gardner, Ernest	Malcolm, Ian	Stock, James Henry
Gibbs, Hn. A G H (City of Lond.	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Gibbs Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	Maxwell, W J H (Dumfriesshire	Stroyan. John
Godson, Sir. Augustus Frederick	Milvain, Thomas	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Thompson, Dr. E C (Monagh'n, N
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Morgan, David J (Walth'mstow	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Greene, Sir EW(B'rySEdm'nds	Morrell, George Herbert	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury	Morrison, James Archibald	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Groves, James Grimble	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Tully, Jasper
Guthrie, William Murray	Mount, William Arthur	Valentia, Viscount
Hall, Edward Marshall	Murray, Rt Hn Graham (Bute	Vincent, Col Sir C. E. H. (Sheff'ld
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Myers. William Henry	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H
Handy, Lawrence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Nicholson, William Graham	Warde, Col. C. E.
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Hay, Hon Claude George	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.	Whiteley, H (Ashton und. Lyne
Helder, Augustus	O'Doherty, William	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Hickman, Sir Alfred	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wilson, J. W, (Worcestersh. N.)
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Hogg, Lindsay	Parkes, Ebenezer	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E.R.(Bath)
Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Percy, Earl	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart-
Hoult, Joseph	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	Plummper, Walter R.	Wylie, Alexander
Hozier, Hon James Henry Cecil	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Pretyman, Ernest George	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Hutton, John (Yorks. N.R.)	Purvis, Robert
Jameson. Major Eustace	Pym, C. Guy
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Randles, John S.	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Kemp, George	Rankin, Sir James	Sir Alexander Acland-
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan
Allen, Charles P (Gloue., Stroud	Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Burt, Thomas	Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Atherley-Jones, L.	Buxton, Sydney Charles	Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Caldwell James	Dunn, Sir William
Bayley, Thomas(Derbyshire)	Cameron. Robert	Edwards, Frank
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Cawley, Frederick	Emmett, Alfred
Bell, Richard	Channing, Francis Allston	Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Craig, Robert Hunter	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)
Brigg, John	Cremer, William Randal	Fenwick, Charles
Broadhurst, Henry	Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Ferguson, R.C. Munro (Leith)

Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Furness, Sir Christopher	Mather, Sir William	Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings
Gladstone, Rt. Herbert John	Moss, Samuel	Thomas, J A (Glamorgan, Gower
Grant, Corrie	Newnes, Sir George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Norman, Henry	Toulmin, George
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Philipps, John Wynford	Trevelvan, Charles Philips
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale-	Priestley, Arthur	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Helme, Norval Watson	Rea, Russell	Walton, Joseph (Bartisley)
Hemphill Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Rickett, J. Compton	Weir, James Galloway
Horniman, Frederick John	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	White, George (Norfoldk)
Humphrey-Owen, Arthur C.	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Robertson. Edmund (Dundee)	Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Jacoby, James Alfred	Roe, Sir Thomas	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Runciman, Walter	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Kearley, Hudson F.	Samuel, Herbert, L(Cleveland)	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid.
Kitson, Sir James	Schwann, Charles E.	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W R)
Langley, Batty	Shackleton, David James	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Layland-Barratt, Francis	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Woodhonse, Sir. J T. (Huddersf'd
Leigh, Sir Joseph	Shipman, Dr. John G.	Yoxall, James Henry
Leng, Sir John	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Levy, Maurice	Sloan, Thomas Henry
Lloyd-George, David	Soares, Ernest J	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	Spencer. Rt Hn. C. R. (Northants	Mr. Herbert Lewis and
M'Crae, George	Taylor, Theodore C.(Radcliffe	Dr. Macnamara.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J.(Manch'r	Bousfield, William Robert
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Balfour, Capt. C. (Hornsey)	Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds	Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Brookfield, Colonel Montagu
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Bartley, George C. T.	Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.
Arrol, Sir William	Beckett, Ernest William	Brymer, William Ernest
Atkinson, Et. Hon. John	Bignold, Arthur	Bull, William James
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Bigwood, James	Bullard, Sir Harry
Balcarres, Lord	Blundell, Colonel Henry	Burdett-Coutts, W.
Baldwin, Alfred	Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Butcher, John George
Carlile, William Walter	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Pretyman, Ernest George
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Purvis, Robert
Cautley, Henry Strother	Hogg, Lindsay	Pym, C. Guy
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Randles, John S.
Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Hoult, Joseph	Rankin Sir James
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Howard, John (Kent, F' versh'm	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Ratcliff, R. F.
Cecil. Lord Hugh (Greenwich)	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Reid, James (Greenock)
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A.(Worc	Hutton John (Yorks. N.R.)	Remnant, James Farquharson
Chapman, Edward	Jameson, Major J. Eustace	Renshaw, Charles Bine
Charrington, Spencer	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Renwick, George
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Ridley, Hon. M. W (Stalybridge
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Kemp, George	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Kennedy, Patrick James	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Colston, Charles Edw. H. Athole	Kenyon ,Hon. Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Keswick, William	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow	Kimber, Henry	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Cranborne, Viscount	Knowles, Lees	Rutherford, John
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)
Davies, Horatio D(Chatham	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Lee, Arthur H(Hants., Fareham	Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (Isle of Wight
Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Sharpe. William Edward T.
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Doughty, George	Lockie, John	Smith ,Abel H.(Hertford, East
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Smith. James Parker (Lanarks.
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Long, Col. Charles W.(Evesham	Stanley, Hn Arthur (Ormskirk
Duke, Henry Edward	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Stanley, Edward ,Jas. (Somerset
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Lonsdale, John Brownlee	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lowe, Francis William	Sttirling-Maxwelr Sir John M.
Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Stock, James Henry
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Lucas, Reginald. J. (Portsmouth)	Stroyan, John
Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J (Manc'r)	Lyttelton. Hon. Alfred	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Fielden. Edward Brocklehurst	Macdona, John Cumming	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Finch, George H.	MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Talbot Rt. Hn. J.G (Oxf'd Univ.
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Thompson, Dr. EC(Monagh'n N
Fisher, William Hayes	M'Killop, James(Stirlingshire	Thornton, Percy M.
Fison, Frederick William	Malcolm. Ian	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Maxwell, W.J.H.(Dumfriessh.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Flower, Ernest	Milvain, Thomas	Tully, Jasper
Forster. Henry William	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Valentia, Viscount
Foster, Philip S. (WarwickS.W	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Vincent, Col. Sir C.(Sheffi'ld
Gardner, Ernest	Morgan, David ,J Walthamst'w	Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Garfit William	Morrell, George Herbert	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H.
Gibbs, Hn. A G H (City of Lond.	Morrison, James Archibald	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Gibbs, Hon. Vicary(St. Albans)	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Welby, Lt. -Col. A .C.E (Taunt'n
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Mount, William Arthur	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Gorst, Hon. Sir John Eldon	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute	Whiteley,H (Ashton und. Lyne
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Myers, William Henry	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Greene, Sir E W (B'ryS Edm'nds	Nicholson, William Graham	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H (Yorks)
Gretton, John	Nolan, Col. JohnP. (Galway, N.	Wodehouse, Rt Hn. E.R. (Bath
Groves, James Grimble	O'Doherty, William	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B Stuart
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Guthrie, Walter Murray	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wylie, Alexander
Hall, Edward Marshall	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Wyndham Rt Hon. George
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Parkes, Ebenezer	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Percy, Earl
Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford	Pierpoint, Robert
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Hay. Hon. Claude George	Plummer. Walter R	Sir Alexander Acland-
Helder, Augustus	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Ashton, Thomas Gair	Barran, Rowland Hirst
Allen, Charles P.(Glouc., Stroud	Atherley-Jones, L.	Bayley, Thomas (Derbysh)

Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.	Samuel Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Bell, Richard	Horniman, Frederick ,John	Schwann, Charles E,
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shackleton, David James
Brigg, John	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Broadhurst, Henry-	Jacoby, James Alfred	Shaw. Thomas (Hawick B.
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Jones, David Brymnor (Sw'nsea	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Kearley, Hudson E.	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Burt, Thomas	Kitson, Sir James	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Langley, Batty	Soares, Ernest J.
Caldwell, James	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Spencer, Rt Hn C. R. (Northants
Cameron, Robert	Leese, Sir, Joseph F. (Accrington	Stevenson, Francis S.
Campbell- Bannerman, Sir H.	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton. Richard knight	Leng, Sir John	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Cawley, Frederick	Levy, Maurice	Tennant, Harold John
Craig, Robert Hunter	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Cremer, William Randal	Lloyd-George, David	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan Gower
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	M'Crae, George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tomkinson, James
Duncan, J. Hastings	Mather, Sir William	Toulmin, George
Dunn, Sir William	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Edwards, Frank	Moss, Samuel	Wallace, Robert
Elibank, Master of	Newnes, Sir George	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Emmott, Alfred	Norman, Henry	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Wason, Eugene
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan	Partington, Oswald	Weir, James Galloway
Fenwick, Charles	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, George (Norfolk)
Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith)	Perks, Robert William	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Fitzmanrice, Lord Edmund	Philipps, John Wynford	Whitley, George (York, W.R.)
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.)	Pickard, Benjamin	Whiteley, J.H.(Halifax)
Fowler. Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Furness, Sir Christopher	Price, Robert John	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid
Gladstone, Rt Hn. HerbertJohn	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.
Goddard. Daniel Ford	Rea, Russell	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Grant. Corrie	Rickett, J. Compton	Woodhouse, Sir J T. (Huddersf'd
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir E. (Berwick)	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Yoxall, ,Tames Henry
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Robertson, Edmund (Dundee)
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Robson, William Snowdon	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Roe, Sir Thomas	Mr. Herbert Roberts and
Helme, Norval Watson	Runciman, Walter	Mr. Channing.

It being after Eleven of the Clock, the CHAIRMAN, in pursuance of the Order of the House of the 11th instant, proceeded successively to put forthwith the Question on the Amendments moved by the Government of which notice had been given, and on every Question necessary to dispose of the allotted business.

The Committee divided:— Ayes,232; Noes, 124. (Division List No. 509.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Bartley, George C. T.	Butcher, John George
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Beckett, Ernest William	Carlile, William Walter
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Bignold, Arthur	Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Blundell, Colonel Henry	Cautley, Henry Strother
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Bond, Edward	Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)
Arrol, Sir William	Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Cavendish, V.C.W.(Derhyshire
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Bousfield, William Robert	Cayzer, Sir Charles William
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)
Balcarres, Lord.	Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich)
Baldwin, Alfred	Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Chamberlain, Rt Hon JA(Worc.
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A.J. (Manch'r	Brown, Alexander H(Shropsh.	Chapman, Edward
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Brymer, William Ernest	Charrington, Spencer
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds	Bull, William James	Clare, Octavius Leigh
Balfour, Kenneth R.(Christch.	Burdett-Coutts, W.	Clive, Captain Percy A.

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 41, after the word raise to insert the words 'such portion as they think tit, not being less than one-half or more than three-fourths of.'"—(Mr. A. J. Balfour.)

(11.4.) Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.)	Pym, C. Guy
Cohen. Benjamin Louis	Jameson, Major J. Eustace	Randles, John S.
Colston Chas Edw. H. Athole	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Kemp, George	Ratcliff, R. F.
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H.	Reid, James (Greenock)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Kennedy, Patrick James	Remnant, James Farquharson
Cranborne, Viscount	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Renwick, George
Crossley. Sir Savile	Keswick, William	Ridley Hon M.W. (Stalybridge
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Kimber, Henry	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Davies, SirHoratioD, (Chatham	Knowles. Lees	Robertson, Herbert, (Hackney
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Law, Andrew Ronan (Glasgow)	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Dixon-Hartland-land Sir Fred Dixon	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Doughty. George	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Rutherford, John
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Lee, Arthur H (Hants., Fareham	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Duke. Henry Edward	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Sassoon. Sir Edward Albert
Egerton. Hon. A. de Tatton	Lockie, John	Seely, Maj. J.E.B. (Isleof Wight
Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Long, Col. Charles W.(Evesham	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Long, Rt Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.)	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Fergusson, Rt. Hn. Sir (Manc'r	Lowe, Francis William	Smith, Abel H.(Hertford, East)
Fielden, Edward Brocklchurst	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.
Finch, George H.	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Smith, Hun. W. F. D. (Strand)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Fisher, William Hayes	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Stanley, Edward Jas.(Somerset
Fison, Frederick William	Macdona, John Cumming	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmund	MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Fitzroy Hon. Edward Algernon	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	Stock, James Henry
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	M' Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Fletcher, Rt. Hon Sir Henry	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Stroyan, John
Flower, Ernest	Malcolm, Ian	Strutt, Hon. Charles Halley
Forster, Henry William	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Foster. Philips. (Warwick, S.W	Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Talbot, RtHn.J.G. (Oxf'd Univ.
Gardner. Ernest	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M	Thompson, DrEC(Monagh'n,N
Garfit, William	Milvain, Thomas	Thornton, Percy M.
Gibbs Hn. AG.H.(CityofLond	Moon, Edward Robert Paey	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M
Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Morgan DavidJ (Walthanstow	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Morrell, George Herbert	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Morrison, James Archibald	Tully, Jasper
Grant, Corrie	Motion, Arthur H. Aylmer	Valentia, Viscount
Greene, Sir EW(B'ryS, Edm'nds	Mount, William Arthur	Vincent, ColSirCEH. (Sheffield
Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury)	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Walrnd, Rt. Hn. Sir WilliamH.
Gretton, John	Murray, RtHnA. Graham(Bute	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Groves, James Grimble	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Welby, Lt-Col C E. (Taunton
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Myers, William Henry	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Gurdon. Sir W. Brampton	Nicholson, William Graham	Whiteley, H(Ashton, und, Lyne
Guthrie. Walter Murray	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Hall, Edward Marshall	Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway, N.)	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	O'Doherty, William	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Hamilton, RtHnLordG(Midd'x	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wilson Todd, Wm. H(Yorks.)
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wodehouse, Rt. E.R. (Bath)
Hay, Hon. Clande George	Parker, Sir Gilbert	Wortley, Hon. C. R. Stuart
Helder, Augustus	Parkes, Ebenezer	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Partington, Oswald	Wylie, Alexander
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.)	Percy, Earl	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Hogg, Lindsay	Pierpoint, Robert	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Hope J F. (Sheffield ,Brightside	Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Hoult, Joseph	Plummer, Walter R.
Howard, John(Kent Faversham	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Pretyman, Ernest George	Sir Alexander Acland-
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Purvis, Robert	Hood anti Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allan, Sir William(Gateshead)	Beanmont, Wentworth C. B.	Bryce, Rt. Hon. James
Allen, Charles P.(Glone.,Strond	Bell, Richard	Burt, Thomas
Ashton. Thomas Gair	Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Buxton, Sydney Charles
Atherley-Jones, L.	Brigg, John	Caldwell, James
Barran, Rowland Hirst	Broadhurst, Henry	Cameron, Robert
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.

Causton, Richard Knight	Leese, Sir JosephF.(Accrington	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Cawley, Frederick	Leigh, Sir Joseph.	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Channing, Francis Allston	Lena, Sir John	Soares, Ernest J.
Craig, Robert Hunter	Levy, Maurice	Speneer, RtHnC.R.(Northants
Cremer, William Randal	Lewis, John Herbert	Stevenson, Francis S.
Dalziel, James Henry	Lough, Thomas	Strachey, Sir Edward
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	M'Care, George	Taylor, Theodore C.(Radcliffe)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tennant, Harold John
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Mather, Sir William	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Thomas, Sir A.(Glamorgan E.)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Moss, Samuel	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr)
Dunn, Sir William	Newnes, Sir George	Thomas, F. Freeman- (Hastings
Edwards, Frank	Norman, Henry	Thomas, JA(Glantorgan Gower
Elibank, Master of	Norton, Captain Cecil William	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Emmott, Alfred	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Tomkinson, James
Evans, Sir FrancisH (Maidstone	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Toulmin, George
Evans, Samuel T.(Glamorgan)	Perks, Robert William	Trevelvan, Charles Philips
Fenwick, Charles	Philipps, John Wynford	Wallace, Robert
Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith)	Pickard, Benjamin	Walton, John Lawson(Leeds,S)
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.	Pirie, Duncan V.	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Price, Robert John	Wason, Eugene
Furness, Sir Christopher	Priestley, Arthur	Weir, James Galloway
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Rankin, Sir James	White, George (Norfolk)
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Rea, Russell	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Rickett, J. Compton	Whiteley, George (York. W. R.)
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Heline, Norval Watson	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Hemphill, Et. Hon. CharlesH.	Robertson, Edmund (Dundee)	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.
Horniman, Frederick John	Robson, William Snowdon	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Roe, Sir Thomas	Wilson, John (Durham. Mid.)
Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Runciman, Walter	Woodhouse, Sir J T(Haddersf'd
Jacoby, James Alfred	Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland)	Yoxall, James Henry
Jones, David Brynmor(Sw'nsea	Schwann, Charles E.
Kearley, Hudson E.	Shackleton, David James
Kitson, Sir James	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Langley, Batty	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)	Mr. Herbert Gladstone
Layland-Barratt, Francis	Shipman, Dr. John G.	and Mr. William M'Arthur.

Amendment pro posed—— In page 5, line 42, after the word liabilities' to insert the words, 'on account of loans.'" —(Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 236; Noes, 124. (Division List No. 510.)

(11.18) Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

Noes, 124. (Division List No. 510.)

Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Flannery, Sir Fortescue	Lockie, John	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Loden, Gerald Walter Erskine	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Flower, Ernest	Long, Col. Charles W.(Evesham	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Forster, Henry William	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Foster, PhilipS.(Warwick, S.W	Lowe, Francis William	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Gardner, Ernest	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Rutherford, John
Garfit, William	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Gibbs, Hn. A.G. H.(Cityof Lond.	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Macdona, John Cumming	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albeit
Goschen, Hon. George, Joachim	MacIver David (Liverpool)	Seely, Maj.J.E.B.(IsleofWight
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Greene, Sir E. W (B'rySEdm'nds	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East
Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury	Majendie. James A. H.	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks
Gretton, John	Malcolm, Ian	Smith, Home W. F. D (Strand)
Groves, James Grimble	Massey Main waring, Hon. W.F	Stanley, Hon Arthur (Ormskirk
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Maxwell, W.J H(Dumfriesshire	Stanley, Edward ,Jas.(Somerset
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Guthrie, Walter Murray	Milvain, Thomas	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Hall, Edward Marshall	Moon, Edwin Robert Pacy	Stock, James Henry
Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Morgan, David (Walth'mstow	Stroyan, John
Hardy, Laurence(KentAshford	Morrell, George Herbert	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Haslett, Sir James Horner	Morrison, James Archibald	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Talbot, RtHn.J.G.(Oxf'd Univ.
Hay, Hon. Claude George	Mount, William Arthur	Thompson, Dr. EC(Monagh'n, N
Helder, Augustus	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Thornton, Percy M.
Hickman, Sir Alfred	Murray, Rt Hn A Graham(Bute	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. H.
Hoare, Sir Samuel.	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Myers. William Henry	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Hogg, Lindsay	Nicholson, William Graham	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Tully, Jasper
Hoult, Joseph	Nolan, Col, John p. (Galway, N	Valentia, Viscount
Howard, John(Kent, Faversh'm	O'Doherty, William	Vincent, Col. Sir C EH (Sheffield
Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H.
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.)	Parkes, Ebenezer	Welby, Lt-Col. A.C. (Taunton
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Percy, Earl	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Pierpoint, Robert	Whiteley, H(Ashton- und Lyne
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Platt-Higgins. Frederick	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Kennedy, Patrick James	Plummer, Walter R.	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.
Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Keswick, William	Pretyman, Ernest George	Wilson-Todd, Wm H (Yorks.)
Kimber, Henry	Purvis, Robert	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Pym, C. Guy	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart
Knowles, Lees	Randles, John S.	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Rankin, Sir James	Wylie, Alexander
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Lawrence, Sir Joseph(Monm'th	Ratcliff, R. F.	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Reid, James (Greenock)
Lee, Arthur H (Hants, Fareham	Remnant, James Farquharson	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Renwick, George	Sir Alexander Acland
Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Causton, Richard Knight	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan
Allen, Charles P. (Glone., Stroud	Cawley, Frederick	Fenwick Charles
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Channing, Francis Allston	Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Craig, Robert Hunter	Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Cremer, William Randal	Furness, Sir Christopher
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Dalziel, James Henry	Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John
Bell, Richard	Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Goddard, Daniel Ford
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Grant, Corrie
Brigg, John	Dewar, John A. (Inverness[...]sh.	Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir E. (Berwick)
Broadhurst, Henry	Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Harmsworth, R. (Leicester)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Duncan, J. Hastings	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Dunn. Sir William	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.
Burt, Thomas	Edwards, Frank	Helme, Norval Watson
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Elibank, Master of	Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Charles H.
Cameron, Robert	Emmott, Alfred	Horniman, Frederick John
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Evans, Sir Francis H(Maidstone	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.

Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Pickard, Benjamin	Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr
Jacoby. James Alfred	Pixie, Duncan V.	Thomas, F. Freeman -(Hastings)
Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Price, Robert John	Thomas, J.A(Glamorgan, Gower
Kearley, Hudson E.	Priestley, Arthur	Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.)
Kitson, Sir James	Pea, Russell	Tomkinson, James
Langley, Batty	Rickett, J. Compton	Toulmin, George
Layland-Barratt, Francis	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Leese, Sir Joseph F.(Accrington	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs	Wallace, Robert
Leigh, Sir Joseph	Robertson, Edmund (Dundee)	Walton, John Lawson(Leeds,S.)
Leng, Sir John	Robson, William Snowdon	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Levy, Maurice	Roe, Sir Thomas	Wason, Eugene
Lewis, John Herbert	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland	Weir, James Galloway
Lough, Thomas	Schwann, Charles E.	White, George (Norfolk)
M'Cerae, George	Shackleton, David James	White, Luke (York, K R.)
Markham, Arthur Basil	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Mather, Sir William	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B)	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Shipman, Dr. John G.	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Moss, Samuel	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid
Newness Sir George	Soames, Arthur Wellesley	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.
Norman, Henry	Soares, Ernest J.	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Spencer, Rt Hn C. R. (Northants	Woodhouse, Sir. JT(Huddersfi'd
Nussey, Thomas Willans	Stevenson, Francis S.	Yoxall, James Henry
Partington, Oswald	Strachey, Sir Edward
Paulton, James Mellor	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe
Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Tennant, Harold John	TELLEBS FOR THE NOES—
Perks, Robert William	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E	Mr. Caldwell and Mr.
Philipps. John Wynford	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E	Runciman.

Amendment proposed— In page 5, line 44, at the end, to insert the words, 'so far as it is Within their area.'" — (Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 238; Noes, 124. (Division List No. 511.)

AYES
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurs
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Finch, George H.
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A(Worc.	Fisher, William Hayes
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Chapman, Edward	Fison, Frederick. William
Arrol, Sir William	Charrington, Spencer	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon
Atkinson. Rt. Hon. John	Churchill, Winston Spencer	Flannery, Sir Fortescue
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Clare, Octavius Leigh	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry
Balcarres, Lord	Clive, Captain Percy A.	Flower, Ernest
Baldwin, Alfred	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Forster, Henry William
Balfour Rt. Hon. A.J.(Manch'r	Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick, S. W
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Galloway, William Johnson
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W.(Leeds	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Gardner, Ernest
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Garfit, William
Bartley, George C. T.	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H (Cityof Lond.
Beckett, Ernest William	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)
Bignold, Arthur	Cranborne, Viscount	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick
Bigwood, James	Crossley, Sir Savile	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Goschen, Hon George Joachim
Bond, Edward	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Davies, Sir HoratioD (Chatham	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Bousfield, William Robert	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Greene, Sir EW(BurvSEdm'nds
Bowles, Capt. H.F.(Middlesex)	Dimsdale, sir Joseph Cockfield	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury)
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Gretton, John
Brown, Alexander H(Shropsh.	Doughty, George	Grove, James Grimble
Brymer, William Ernest	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Bill, William James	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Bullard, Sir Harry	Duke, Henry Edward	Hall, Edward Marshall
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.
Butcher, John George	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hamilton, Rt Hn LordG(Midd'x
Carlile, William Walter	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Hardy, Laurence(kent, Ashf'rd
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Cautley, Henry Strother	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Haslett, Sir James Horner
Cavendish, R. E. (N. Lancs.)	Fergusson, Rt Hn. SirJ.(Manc'r	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.

(11.31.) Question put, "That thoset words be there inserted."

Noes, 124. (Division List No. 511.)

Hay, Hon. Claude George	Maxwell WJH (Dumfriesshire	Seely, Maj. J.E.B. (Isle of Wight
Hickman, Sir Alfred	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Milvain, Thomas	Sinclair, Louis (Rumford)
Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Moon, Edward. Robert Pacy	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Hogg, Lindsay	More. Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Hope, J.F (Sheffield, Brghtsisde	Morgan, David J (Walthamst'w	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Hoult, Joseph	Murrell, George Herbert	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Howard. John (Kent, Fav'rsliam	Morrison, James Archibald	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Morton. Arthur H. Aylmer	Stanley, Edw. Jas. (Somerset)
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Mount, William Arthur	Stanley Lord (Lanes.)
Hutton, John (Yorks., N. R.)	Mowbray, Sir Robert. Gray C.	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute	Stock, James Henry
Jessel, Captain Herbert. Merton	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Kemp, George	Myers, William Henry	Stroyan, John
Kennaway, Rt. How Sir, John H.	Nicholson, William Graham	Strutt, Hon Charles Hedley
Kennedy, Patrick James	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Kenyon, Hon Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Nolan, Col John P. (Galway, N.	Talbot, Rt Hn. G (Oxf'd Univ.
Keswick, William	O'Doherty, Wiiliam	Thompson, Dr. EC (Monagh, nN
Kimber, Henry	Orr Ewing. Charles Lindsay	Thornton. Percy M.
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Tomlinson. Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Knowles, Lees	Parkes Ebenezer.	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.	Percy, Earl	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)	Pierpoint, Robert	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Lawrenee, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Platt Higgins, Frederick	Tully, Jasper
Lawrence. Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Plummer, Walter R.	Valentia, Viscount
Lee, Arthur H (Hants, Fareham	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield.
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Pretyman, Ernest George	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H
Leigh-Bennett. Henry Currie	Purvis, Robert	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Randles, John S.	Welby, Lt.-Col A.C.E (Taunton
Lockie, John	Rankia. Sir James	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Whiteley, H (Ashton-und-Lyne
Long Col. Charles W.(Evesham	Reid James (Greenock)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Long Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S	Remnant, James Farquharson	Wilson, A. Stanley (York. E.R.
Lowe, Francis William	Renwick, Charles	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale)	Ridley, Hon M.W.(Stalybridge	Wilson-Todd. Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Ritchie Rt Hn. Chas. Thomson	Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E.R. (Bath
Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Wortley, Rt Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Lyttelton. Hon. Alfred	Roberson, Herbert (Hackney)	Wrightson. Sir Thomas
Macdona, John Cumming	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Wylie, Alexander
MacIver, David (Liverpool)	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Wyndham. Rt. Hon. George
Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.	Royds. Clement. Molyneux	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
M'Arthur. Charles (Liverpool)	Rutherford, John
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Majendie, James A. H.	Sadler. Col. Samuel Alexander	THLLERS FOR THE AYES—
Malcolm, Ian	Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)	Sir Alexander Acland-
Massey-Mainwaring Hn W. F.	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.
Allen, Charles P.(Gloue, Stroud	Dewer, John A. (Inverness-sh	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Douglas. Charles M. (Lanark)	Jacoby, James Alfred
Atherley, Jones, L.	Duncan, J. Hastings	Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea
Bayley, Thomas (Derhyshire)	Dum, Sir William	Kearley, Hudson E.
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Edwards, Frank	Kitson, Sir James
Bell, Richard	Elibank, Master of	Lambert, George
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Emmot, Alfred	Langley, Batty
Brigg, John	Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone	Layland-Barratt, Francis
Broadhurst, Henry	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Fenwick, Charles	Leigh, Sir Joseph
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith)	Lung, Sir John
Burt. Thomas	Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Levy, Maurice
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Furness, Sir Christopher	Lewis, john Herbert
Caldwell, James	Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Lough, Thomas
Cameron, Robert	Goddard, Daniel Ford	M 'Crae, George
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Grant, Corrie	Markham, Arthur Basil
Causton, Richard knight	Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir E. (Berwick)	Mather Sir William
Cawley, Frederick	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)
Channing, Francis Allston	Harmsworth. R. Leicester	Moss, Samuel
Craig, Robert Hunter	Hayne Rt. Hon Charles Seale	Newnes, Sir George
Cremer, William Randal	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Norman, Henry
Dalziel, James Henry	Helme, Norval Watson	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Horniman, Frederick John	Nussey, Thomas Willans

Partington, Oswald	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Wallace, Robert
Paulton, James Mellor	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Shipman, Dr. John G.	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Perks, Robert William	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	Wason, Eugene
Philipps, John Wynford	Soames, Arthur Wellesley	Weir, James Galloway
Pickard, Benjamin	Soares, Ernest J.	White, George (Norfolk)
Pirie, Duncan V.	Spencer, Rt Hn. C.R (Northants	White Luke (York, E. R.)
Price, Robert John	Stevenson, Francis S.	Whiteley, George (York, W.R.)
Priestley, Arthur	Strachey, Sir Edward	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Rea, Russell	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Ricketts J. Compton	Tennant, Harold John	Wilson, Fred W. (Norfolk, Mid.)
Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen E.)	Wilson, Henry J. (York. W.R,)
Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)	Woodhouse, Sir. J.T (Hudd'rsf'd
Robson, William Snowdon	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr	Yoxall, James Henry
Roe, Sir Thomas	Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings
Runciman, Walter	Thomas, J.A (Glamorgan Gower
Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Schwann, Charles E	Tomkinson, James	Mr. Trevelyan and Mr.
Shackleton, David James	Toulmin, George	John Wilson (Durham).

Amendment proposed— In page 6, line 12, at the end, to add the words, '(4) Where under any local Act the expenses incurred in any borough for the purposes of the Elementary Education Acts, 1870 to 1900, are payable out of some fund or rate other than the borough fund or rate, the expenses of the council of that borough under this Act shall be payable out of that fund or rate instead of out of the borough fund or rate; (5) Where any receipts or payments of money under this Act are entrusted by the local education authority

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Chamberlain Rt Hn. J.A (Worc.	Fitzoy, Hon. Edward Algernon
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Chapman, Edward	Flannery, Sir Forteseue
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Charrington, Spencer	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Churchill, Winston Spencer	Flower, Ernest
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Clare, Octavius Leigh	Forster, Henry William
Arrol, Sir William	Clive, Captain Percy A.	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S. W
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Galloway, William Johnson
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Gardner, Ernest
Balcarres, Lord	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Garfit, William
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (City of Lond
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Gordon, Maj Evans (T'rH'mlets
Bartley, George C. T.	Cranborne, Viscount	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim
Beckett, Ernest William	Crossley, Sir Savile	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Bignold, Arthur	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Bigwood, James	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Greene, Sir EW (B'ry S. Edmn'ds
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham)	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury
Bond, Edward	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Gretton, John
Bonsfield, William Robert	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Groves, James Grimble
Bowles, Capt. H.F. (Middlesex	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Doughty, George	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Hall, Edward Marshall
Brown. Alexander H. (Shropsh.	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.
Brymer, William James	Duke, Henry Edward	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord (Midd'x
Bull, William Ernest	Darning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd
Bullard, Sir Harry	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Haslett, Sir James Horner
Butcher, John George	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants., W)	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Carlile, William Walter	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Fergusson. Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r	Hickman, Sir Alfred
Cautley, Henry Strother	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Cavendish. R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Finch, George H.	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.)
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Hogg, Lindsay,
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Fisher, William	Hope, J.F. (Shellield, Brfghtside
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Fison, Frederick William	Hoult, Joseph

to any committee or managers, the accounts of these receipts and payments shall be accounts of the local education authority.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

(11.41) Question put, "That those words be there added."

The Committee divided:—Ayes 234; Noes, 121. (Division List No. 512.)

Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	More. Robt. Jasper (Shropshire	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Morgan, David J (Walth' mstow	Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Hudson. George Bickersteth	Morrell, George Herbert	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East
Hutton, John (Yorks., N.R.)	Morrison, James Archibald	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.)
Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhonse	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Mount, William Arthur	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Kemp, George	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir, John H.	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Kennedy, Patrick James	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Stock, James Henry
Kenyon Hon. Geo T. (Denbigh)	Myers, William Henry	Stone, sir Benjamin
Keswick, William	Nicholson. William Graham	Stroyan, John
Kimber, Henry	Nicol. Donald Ninian	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
King, sir Henry Seymour	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Knowles, Lees	O'Doherty, William	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J.G (Oxf'd Univ.
Lambton. Hon. Frederick Wm.	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n ,N
Law. Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Thornton, Percy M.
Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Parkes, Ebenezer	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Percy, Earl	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Lawson. John Grant	Pierpoint, Robert,	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Lee, Arthur H (Hants., Fareham	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Take, Sir John Batty
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Plummer, Walter R.	Valentia, Viscount
Lergh Bennett, Henry Currie	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Vincent, Col. Sir C.EH (Sheffield
Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Pretyman, Ernest George	Walrond, Rt. Hon. Sir Wm. H.
Lockie. John	Purvis, Robert	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Handles, John S.	Welby, Lt.-Col. ACE (Taunton
Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham	Rankin, Sir James	Wharton, Rt. Hon John Lloyd
Long. Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Lowe, Francis William	Reid, James (Greenock)	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Remnant, James Farquharson	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Renwick, George	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsinouth	Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.
Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred	Ritchie, Rt Hn. Chas. Thomson	Wodehouse, Rt. Hon. E. R. (Bath
Macdona. John Cumming	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart
MacIver. David (Liverpool)	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Wylie, Alexander
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Majendle. James A.H	Royds, Clement Molynenx	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Malcolm. Ian	Rutherford, John
Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Maxwell. W .J H (Dumfriesshire	Sadler. Col. Samuel Alexander	TELLER FOR THE AYES—
Mevsey-Thompson. Sir H. M.	Sasoon, Sir Edward Albert	Sir Alexander Acland-
Milvain, Thomas	Seely, Maj. J.E.B. (Isle of Wight	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Sharpe, William Edward T.

NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Elibank, Master of	Leng, Sir John
Allen, Charhs P. (Gloue., Stroud	Emmott, Alfred	Levy, Maurice
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone	Lewis, John Herbert
Atherley-Jones, L.	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Lough, Thomas
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Fenwick. Charles	M'Crae, George
Beaumont. Wentworth C. B.	Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith	Markham, Arthur Basil
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Mather, Sir William
Brigg, John	Furness, Sir Christopher	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)
Broadhurst, Henry	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Moss, Samuel
Brunner. Sir John Tomlinson	Grant, Currie	Newnes, Sir George
Bryce. Rt. Hon. James	Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir E.(Berwick)	Norman, Henry
Burt Thomas	Griffith, Ellis J.	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Buxton. Sydney Charles	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Nussey, Thomas Willans
Caldwell. James	Hayne. Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Partington. Oswald
Cameron, Robert	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Paulton, James Mellor
Campbell-Bannerman. Sir H.	Helme, Norval Watson	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Cawley, Frederick	Horniman, Frederick John	Perks, Robert William
Chammng. Francis Allston	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Philipps, John Wynford
Craig, Robert Hunter	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Pickard, Benjamin
Cremer William Randal	Jacoby, James Alfred	Pirie, Duncan V.
Dalziel, James Henry	Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Price, Robert John
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Kearley, Hudson E.	Priestley, Arthur
Davies, M Vaughan-(Cardigan	Kitson, Sir James	Rea, Russell
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Land Pert, George	Rickett, J. Compton
Doughts, Charles M (Lanark)	Langley, Batty	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Dnucan, J. Hastings	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Dunn, Sir William	Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington	Robson, William Snowdon
Edwards-Frank	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Roe, Sir Thomas

Runciman, Walter	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr	Whiteley, George (York, W.R.
Schwann, Charles E.	Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Thomas, J A (Glamorgan Gower	Whittaker, Thomas palmer
Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)	Wilson, Fred, W. (Norfolk, Mid.
Shipman, Dr. John G.	Tomkinson, James	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R)
Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	Toulmin, George	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Soares, Ernest J.	Trevelyan, Charles Philips	Woodhuse, Sir, J.T (Huddersf'd
Spencer, Rt Hn. C.R (Northants	Wallace, Robert	Yoxall, James Henry
Stevenson, Francis S.	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.
Strachey, Sir Edward	Walton Joseph (Barnsley)
Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)	Wason, Engene	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Tennant, Harold John	Weir. James Galloway	Mr. Bell and Mr. Shackle
Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen E.)	White, George (Norfolk)	ton.

(11.57.) Question put, "That the Clause as amended stand part of the Bill."

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hickman, Sir Alfred
Anson, Sir-William Reynell	Davies, Sir Hoyaio D (Chatham	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Arkwight, John Stanhope	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Habhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hogg, Lindsay
Arrol, Sir William	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside
Atkinson, Ht. Hon. John	Dorington. Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Hoult, Joseph
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Doughty, George	Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm
Balcarres, Lord	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Hozier, Hon., James Henry Cecil
Balfour, Rt. Hn. (Manch'r	Doxford, Sir William Taheodore	Hudson, George Bickersteth
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Duke, Henry Edward	Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.)
Balfour, Rt. Hn Gerald W. (Leeds	During-Lawrence Sir Edwin	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Bartley, George C. T.	Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Kemp, George
Beckett, Ernest William	Faber, Edmund B.(Hants, W.)	Kennaway. Rt. Hon. Sir John H
Bignold, Arthur	Fell, Aves, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Kennedy, Patrick James
Bigwood, James	Fergusson, Rt. Hn Sir J. (Mane'r	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Blundell Colonel Henry	Fiehlen, Edward Brocklehurst	Keswick, William
Bond, Edward	Finch, George H.	Kimber, Henry
Boseawen, Arthur Griffith-	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	King, Sir Henry Sermour
Bousfield, William Robert	Fisher, William Hayes	Knowles, Lees
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Fison, Frederick William	Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm.
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Flannery, Sir Forteseue	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th
Brown, Alexander H (Shropsh.	Fietcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Lawrence, F. (Liverpool)
Brymer, William Ernest	Flower, Ernest	Lawson, John Grant
Bull, William James	Forster, Henry William	Lee, Arthunr. H (Hants. Fareham
Bullard, Sir Harry	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S.W	Legge, Col. Hon. Honeage
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Galloway, William Johnson	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Butcher, John George	Gardner, Ernest	Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Carlile, William Walter	Garfit, -William	Leckie, John
Carson, Bt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Gihbs, Hn. A.G.H. (City of Load.	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Cautley, Henry Strother	Gibbs. Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Long, Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol. S)
Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets	Lowe, Francis William
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Lowther, C (Cumb., Eskilale)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J.A. (Worc.	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth)
Chapman, Edward	Greene, Sir EW (Bry S. Edm'nds	Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred
Charrington, Spencer	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury)	Macdona, John Cumming
Winston Spencer	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs	MaeIver, David (Liverpool)
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Gretton, John	M'Arthur, Charles Liverpool
Clive, Captain Percy M.	Groves, James Grimble	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H.A.E.	Guest. Hon. Ivor Churchill	Mjendie, James A. H.
Cohen, Benjamin Louis	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Malcolm, Ian
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Hall, Edward Marshall	Massey-Alain waving, Hn. W.F.
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Maxwell, W.J H. (D'mfri ssh're
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas	Hamilton, Rt. Hn Ld. G. (Midd'x	Meysey-Thompson. Sir H.M
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Hard, Laurence (Kent, Ashford	Milvain, Thomas
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Cranborne, Viscount	Haslett, Sir James Horner	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire
Crossley, Sir Savile	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Morgan David J (Walthamstow

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 234; Noes,125, (Division List No. 513)

Morrell, George Herbert	Renwick, George	Thornton, Percy M.
Morrison, James Archibald	Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge)	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Mount, William Arthur	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Murray, Rt Hn A. Gritham (Bute	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Valentia, Viscount
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield
Myers, William Henry	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H.
Nicholson, William Graham	Rutherford, John	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Nicol, Donald Ninian	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Welby, Lt. Col A. C. E. (Taunton
Nolan Col. John P. (Galway, N)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
O'Doherty, William	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Whiteley, H. (Ashton und Lyne
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Seely, Maj. J. E. B (Isle of Wight	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Sharpe, William Edward T.	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Parkes, Ebenezer	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Perey, Earl	Smith, Abel H (Hertford, East)	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Pierpoint, Robert	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks)	Wodehouse. Rt. He. E. R (Bath)
Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart
Plummer, Walter R.	Stanley, Hn. Arthur(Ormskirk)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset	Wylie, Alexander
Pretyman, Ernest George	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Purvis, Robert	Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Bandies, John S.	Stock, James Henry
Rankin, Sir James	Stone, Sir Benjamin
Basch, Major Frederic Carne	Stroyan, John	TELLERS FOR TETE AYES—
Ratcliff, R. F.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley	Sir Alexander Acland
Reid. James (Greenock)	Talbot. Lord E. (Chichester)	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Remnant, James Farquharson	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n, N

NOES.
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead)	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Roe, Sir Thomas
Allen, Charles P (Gloue., Stroud	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chance Seale-	Runciman, Walter
Ashton Thomas Gair	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Helme, Norval Watson	Schwann. Charles E.
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Horniman, Frederick John	Shackleton, David James
Beaumunt, Wentworth C. B.	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Bell, Richard	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick, B.)
Bolton, Thomas Dolling	Jacoby, James Alfred	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Brigg, John	Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Broadhurst, Henry	Kearley, Hudson E.	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson	Kitson, Sir James	Soares, Ernest J.
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Lambert, George	Spencer, Rt. C. R. (Northants
Burt, Thomas	Langley, Batty	Stevenson, Francis S.
Buxton, Sydney Charles	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Strachey, Sir Edward
Caldwell, James	Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington	Taylor, Theodore C.(Radcliffe)
Cameron, Robert	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Tennant, Harold John
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H.	Leng, Sir John	Thomas, Abel (Carmathen, F.)
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, David Aflfed (Merthyr
Channing, Francis Allston	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, F. Freeman (Hastings)
Craig Robert Hunter	M'Crae, George	Thomas, JA. (Glamorgan, Gower
Cremer, William Randall	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomson F.E. (York, W. R.)
Dalziel, James Henry	Mather, Sir William	Tomkinson, James
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Toulmin, George
Davies, M. Vanghan-(Cardigan)	Moss, Samuel	Treveyan, Charles Philips
Dewar, John. A. Inverness-sh.	Newnes, Sir George	Wallace, Robert
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Norman, Henry	Walton, John Lawson (Leeds, S.)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Dunn, Sir William	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Wason, Eugene
Edwards, Frank	Partington, Oswald	Weir, James Galloway
Elibank, Master of	Paulton, James Mellor	White, George (Norfolk)
Emmott, Alfred	Pease, J A (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Evans. Sir Francis H (Maidstone.	Perks Robert William	Whiteley, George (York, W. R.)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Philipps, John Wynford	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Fenwick Charles	Pickard Benjamin	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith)	Pirie, Duncan V	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk. Mid
Fowler, Hon. Sir Henry	Price, Robert John	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.B.)
Furness, Sir Christopher	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, John (Dunham, Mid.)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Rea, Russell	Woodhouse, Sir. T (Hudd'rsfi'd.
Grant, Corrie	Rickett, J. Compton
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir E. (Berwick)	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Grirffith, Ellis J.	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs)	Mr. Herbert Gladstone and
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Robson, William (Snowdon)	Mr. William M'Arthor.

Clause 14:—

Amendment proposed— In page. 6, line 18, after the word 'borough.' to insert the words 'or urban district.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Lockie, John
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Fielder, Edward Brocklehurst	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Finch, George H.	Long. Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Long, Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol, S)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Fisher, William Hayes	Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Arrol, Sir William	Fison, Frederick William	Lowe, Francis William
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Flannery, Sir Forteseue	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Balcarres, Lord	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Forster, Henry William	Macdona, John Cumming
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Fester, Philip S (Warwick, S.W.	MacIver, David (Liverpool)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Galloway, William Johnson	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Beckett, Ernest William	Gardner, Ernest	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire
Bignold, Arthur	Garfit, William	Malcolm. Ian
Bigwood, James	Gibbs, Hn. A.G.H (City of Lond.	Massey- Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans)	Maxwell, WJH (Durnfriesshireire
Bond, Edward	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Meysey Thompson, Sir H. M.
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Gordom Maj Evans-(T'rH'ml'ts	Milvain, Thomas
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Brodrick, Rt. Hn. St. John	Goulding, Edward Alfred	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Morgan, David J. Walthamst'w
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.	Greene, Sir EW (B'ry S Edm'nds	Morrell, George Herbert
Brymer, William Ernest	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury	Morrison, James Archibald
Bull, William James	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Gretton, John	Mount, William Arthur
Butcher, John George	Groves, James Grimble	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Carlile, William Walter	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Cautley, Henry Strother	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Myers, William Henry
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Nicholson, William Graham
Cavendish, V. C. W (Derbyshire	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Haslett, Sir James Horner	O'Doherty, William
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J.A (Worc.	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Chapman, Edward	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Charring ton, Spencer	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Parkes, Ebenezer
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Dobhouse, Henry(Somerset, E.	Percy, Earl
Clare, Octavins Leigh	Hogg, Lindsay	Pierpoint, Robert
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Hope. J.E. (Sheffield Brightside	Plummer, Walter R.
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Hoult, Joseph	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Callings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Howard. John (Kent, Fav'rsh'm	Pretyman, Ernest George
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Purvis, Robert
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Hudson, George Biekersteth	Randles, John S.
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Hutton, John (Yolks. N.R.)	Rankin, Sir James
Cranborne, Viscount	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Crossley, Sir Savile	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Ratcliff, R F.
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H	Reid, James (Greenock)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Kennedy, Patrick James	Remnant, James, Farquharson
Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Renwick, George
Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P	Keswick, William	Ridley, Hn. M.W.(Stalybridge
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Kimber, Henry	Ritchie, Rt.Hn. Chas. Thomson
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Dorington, Rt. Hon Sir John E.	Knowles, Lees	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Doughty, George	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Round, Rt. Hon. James
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Duke, Henry Edward	Lawson, John Grant	Rutherford, John
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Lee, Arthur H (Hants. Fareham	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Elliott, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Seely Maj J. E. B (Isle of Wight)

(12.8.) Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 219; Noes, 108. (Division List No. 514.)

Sharpe, William Edward T.	Thnapson, Dr E.C (Monagh'n, N	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.
Sinclair, Louis (Romford)	Thornton, Percy M.	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.	Tritton, Charles Ernest	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart-
Smith, Hon. W. E D (Strand)	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Stanley, Hn. Arthur(Ormskirk)	Tuke, Sir John Batty	Wylie, Alexander
Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset	Valentia, Viscount	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Stock, James Henry	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Stone, Sir Benjamin	Warde, Colonel C.E.
Stroyan, John	Welby, Lt. -Col. A .C. E (Taunt'n	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd	Sir Alexander Acland-
Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)	Whiteley, H (Ashton-und Lyne	Hood. and Mr. Anstruther.
Talbot, Rt. Hn. J.G. (Oxf'd Univ.	Willox, Sir John Archibald

NOES.
Allen, Charles R (Gloue., Stroud	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Shackleton, David James
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Kearley, Hudson E.	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Kitson, Sir James	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Lambert, George	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Bell, Richard	Langley, Batty	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brigg, John	Layland-Baratt, Francis	Soares, Ernest J.
Bryce, Rt. Hon. James	Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington	Spencer, Rt. Hn. C.R (Northants
Caldwell, James	Leigh. Sir Joseph	Stevenson, Francis S.
Cameron, Robert	Leng, Sir John	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Tennant, Harold John
Channing Francis Allston	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.
Craig, Robert Hunter	M'Crae, George	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamoran, E.
Cremer, William Randal	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Dalzie, James Henry	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Thomas, F. Freeman- Hastings
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Moss, Samuel	Thomas, J.A (Gl'morg'n, Clower
Davies, M Vaughan-(Cardigan	Newnes, Sir George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Dewar, John A.(Inverness-sh.)	Norman, Henry	Tomkinson, James
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Toulmin, George
Duncan, J. Bastings	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Dunn, Sir William	Partington, Oswald	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Edwards, Frank	Paulton, James Mellor	Wason, Eugene
Elibank, Master of	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Weir, James Galloway
Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone	Philipps, John Wynford	White, George (Norfolk)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Pickard, Benjamin	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Furness, Sir Christopher	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whiteley, George (York, W.R)
Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert John	Price, Robert John	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Goddard, Daniel Font	Priestley, Arthur	Whittaker Thomas Palmer
Grant, Corrie	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, Henry J. (York W. R)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Roberts, John (Denbighs)
Bayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Robson, William Snowdon
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D	Roe, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Helme, Norval Watson	Runciman, Walter	Mr. Broadhurst and Mr
Horniman, Frederick John	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Fenwick.
Humaphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Schwann, Charles E.

Amendment proposed— In page 6, line 19. to leave out the second word 'borough'"—(Sir William Anson.)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 102; Noes, 214. (Division List No. 515.)

AYES.
Allen Charles P. (Glouc ,Stroud	Caldwell, James	Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Cameron, Robert	Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan
Atherley-Jones, L.	Causton, Richard Knight	Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Cawley, Frederick	Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Channing, Francis Allston	Duncan, J. Hastings
Bell, Richard	Craig, Robert Hunter	Dunn, Sir William
Brigg, John	Cremer, William Randal	Edwards, Frank
Broadhurst, Henry	Dalziel, James Henry	Elibank, Master of

(12.23.Question put "That the word 'borough' stand part of the Clause".

Emmott, Alfred	Morley, Charles (Brcconshire)	Strachey. Sir. Edward
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Moss, Samuel	Taylor, Theodore C (Radcliffe)
Fenwick, Charles	Newnes, Sir George	Tennant, Harold John
Furness, Sir Christopher	Norman, Henry	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Gladstone Rt Hn. Herbert John	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Partington, Oswald	Thomas, David Alfred (M'rthyr)
Grant, Corrie	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Griffith, Ellis J.	Philipps, John Wynford	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R,)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Pirie, Duncan V.	Tomkinson, James
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Price, Robert John	Toulmin, George
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Priestley, Arthur	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Rea, Russell	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Helme, Norval Watson	Rickett, J. Compton	Wason, Eugene
Horniman, Frederick John	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Weir, James Galloway
Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Roberts, John (Denbighs.)	White, George (Norfolk)
Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Robson, William Snowdon	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Roe, Sir Thomas	Whiteley, George (York, W. R)
Kitson, Sir James	Runciman, Walter	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Lambert, George	Sainuel,Herhert L. (Cleveland)	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Langley, Batty	Sehwann, Charles E.	Wilson. Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.
Layland-Barratt; Francis	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Wilson, Henry J(York,W. R.)
Leigh, Sir Joseph	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Leng, Sir John	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Levy, Maurice	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Lewis, John Herbert	Soames, Arthur Wellesley	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Lough, Thomas	Soares, Ernest J.	Sir Joseph Leese and Mr.
M'Crae, George	Spenser, Rt Hn C.R. (Northants	Nussey.
Markham, 'Arthur Basil	Stevenson, Francis S.

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cranborne, Viscount	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Crossley, Sir Savile	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Anson, Sir William Reynell	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Haslett, Sir James Homer
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Arrol, Sir William	Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P.	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Atkinson, Rt. Hen. John	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Dixon- Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Hogg, Lindsay
Balcarres, Lord	Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Doughty, George	Hoult, Joseph
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Howard. John (Kent, Faversh'm
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil
Beckett, Ernest William	Duke, Henry Edward	Hudson, George Bickersteth
Bignold, Arthur	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.)
Bigwood James	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Bond, Edward	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Kemp, George
Boscawen, Arthur Gtiffith-	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Finch, George H.	Kennedy, Patrick James
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Kenyon, Hon-Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Brown, Alexander H (Shropsh.	Fisher, William Hayes	Keswick, William
Brymer, William Ernest	Fison, Frederick William	Kimber, Henry
Bull, William James	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Bullard, Sir Harry	Flannery, Sir Forteseue	Knowles, Lees
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Fletcher, Bt. Hon. Sir Henry	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Butcher, John George	Forster, Henry William	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th
Carlile, William Walter	Foster, Phillin, S.(Warwick, SW.	Lawson, John Grant
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Galloway, William Johnson	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Cautley, Henry Strother	Garfit, William	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Gibbs, Hn. A G.H. (City of Lond.	Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Godson, Sir Augnstus Frederick	Leckie, John
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Chamberlain, Rt Hn JA (Worc'r	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.
Chapman, Edward	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Charrington, Spencer	Greene, Sir EW (Wry S. Edrdnds	Lowe, Francis William
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Greene, Henry (Shrewsbury)	Lowther, C. (Crumb., Eskdale)
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Clive, Capt Percy A.	Gretton, John	Lucas, Reginald J (Portsmouth
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Groves, James Grimble	Macdona, John Cumming
Collings. Hon. Jesse	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Guthrie, Walter Murray	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)
Corbett, A. Cameron(Glasgow)	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Majendie, James A. H.
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Malcolm, Ian

Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Rankin, Sir James	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J.G. (Oxf'd Univ.
Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Ratcliffe, R. F.	Thompson. Dr EC (Monagh 'n,N
Milvain, Thomas	Reid, James (Greenock)	Thornton, Percy M.
Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Remnant, James Farquharson	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Renwick, George	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Morgan, David J (Walthamstow	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Morrell, George Herbert	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Morrison, James Archibald	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Valentia, Viscount
Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield
Mount, William Arthur	Round, Rt. Hon. James	Walrond, Rt Hon Sir William H.
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute	Rutherford, John	Welby, Lt.-Col. ACE (Taunton
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Myers, William Henry	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Whiteley, H (Asht'n-und -Lyne
Nicholson, William Graham	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Nicol, Donald Ninian	Seely, Maj. J. E.B.(Isle of Wight	Wilson A. Stanley(York, E.R.
Noan, Col. John P (Galway, N.)	Sharpe, William Edward T.	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
O'Doherty, William	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks)
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lin'say	Smith, Abel H. (Hereford, East	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart
Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Smith, James Parker (Lanark)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Parkes, Ebenezer	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. Strand	Wyhe, Alexander
Percy, Earl	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Pierpoint, Robert	Stanley, Ed ward Jas. (Somerset	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Stock, James Henry
Pretyman, Ernest George	Stone, Sir Benjamin	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Purvis, Robert	Stroyan, John	Sir Alexander Acland
Handles, John S.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Medley	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

Amendment proposed— In page 6, line 19, at the end, to add the words 'out of which the expenses of the Council under this Act are payable'"—(Sir William Anson)

AYES.
Agg Gardner, James Tynte	Clare, Octavius Leigh	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick.
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Clive, Captain Percy A.	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T' H'ml'ts
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Arrol, Sir William	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Atkinson, Rt Hon. John	Corbet, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Greene, Sir EW (Bury S Edm'nds
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Greene, Henry D (Shrewsbury)
Balcarres, Lord	Cranborne, Viscount	Gretton, John
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Crossley, Sir Savile	Groves, James Gamble
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Balfour, Kenneth R (Christch.	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Beckett, Ernest William	Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.
Bignold, Arthur	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x
Bigwood, James	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Dorington, Rt. Sir John E.	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Bond, Edward	Doughty, George	Haslett, Sir James Horner
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Duke, Henry Edward	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.	Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.
Brymer, William Ernest	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hogg, Lindsay
Bull, William James	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.	Hope, J. F.(Sheffield, Brightside
Bullard, Sir Harry	Fellowes. Hon Ailwyn Edward	Howard, John (Kent, Faversham
Burdett-Coutts, W.	Fielden, Edwin Brocklehurst	Hozier, Hon James Henry Cecil
Butcher, John George	Finch, George H	Hudson, George Bickersteth
Carlile, William Walter	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Fisher, William Hayes	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse
Cautley, Henry Strother	Fison, Frederick William	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Cavendish, V.C. W. (Derbyshire	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Kemp, George
Cayzer, Sir Charles William	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Forster. Henry William	Kennedy, Patrick James
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A (Worc.	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S. W	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh
Chapman, Edward	Galloway, William Johnson	Keswick, William
Charrington, Spencer	Garfit, William	Kimber, Henry

(12.35.)Question put, "That those words be there added.

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 204; Noes, 97. (Division List No. 516.)

King, Sir Henry Seymour	Myers, William Henry	Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk
Knowles, Lees	Nicholson, William Graham	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th)	Nolan Col. John P.(Galway, N.)	Stock, James Henry
Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	O'Doherty, William	Stroyan, John
Lawson, John Grant	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Legge, Col. Hon. Hencage	Painter, Walter (Salisbury)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Parkes, Ebenezer	Talbot, Rt. Hn. J.G (Oxf'd Uriv.
Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Percy, Earl	Thompson, Dr. EC (Monagh'n, N
Lockie, John	Pierpoint, Robert	Thornton, Percy M
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Platt-Higgins, Frederick	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Long, Col Charles W. (Evesham	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp	Tritton, Charles Ernest
Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S	Pretyman, Ernest George	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Lonsdale, John Brownlee	Purer, Robert,	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Lowe, Francis William	Randles, John S.	Valentia, Viscount
Lowther, C. (Comb., Eskdale)	Rankin, Sir James	Vincent, Col. Sir C. E H (Sheffield
Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H
Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Ratcliff, R. F.	Warde, Col. C. E.
Macdona, John Cumming	Reid, James (Greenock)	Welby, Lt.-Col. A.C.E (Taunt'n
M' Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Remnant, James Farquharson	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Renwick, George	Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Majendie, James A. H.	Ritchie, Rt Hn. Chas. Thomson	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R)
Maxwell, W.J H (Dumfriessh.	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Wilson-Todd, Wm. H.(Yorks.)
Milvain, Thomas	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart
Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Rutherford, John	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford	Wylie, Alexander
Morgan, David J (Walth'mstow	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Morrell, George Herbert	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert	Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Morrison, James Archibald	Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (Isle of Wight
Alorton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Mount, William Arthur	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)	TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East	Sir Alexander Acland-
Murray, Rt Hn. A. Graham (Bute	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.	Hood and Mr. Austrther.
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)

NOES.
Allen. Charles P. (Glcuc., Stroud	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley)	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Aterley-Jones, L.	Kitson, Sit James	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Lambert, George	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Langley, Batty	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brigg, John	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Soares, Ernest J.
Caldwell, James	Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington	Spencer, Rt Hn C. R. (Northants
Cameron, Robert	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton, Richard Knight	Leigh, Sir John	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Cawley, Frederick	Levy, Manrice	Tennant, Harold John
Channing, Francis Allston	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen E.)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.
Cremer, William Randal	M'Crae, George	Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr)
Dalziel, James Henry	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Thomson, E. W. (York, W.R.)
Davies, M Vaughan-(Cardigan	Moss, Samuel	Tomkinson, James
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Newness Sir George	Toulmin, George
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Norman, Henry	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Duncan, J. Hastings	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Dunn, Sir William	Nussey, Thomas Wilians	Wason, Eugene
Edwards, Frank	Partington, Oswald	Weir, James Galloway
Elibank. Master of	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, George (Norfolk)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Philipps, John Wynford	White, Luke (York, E.R.)
Fentwick, Charles	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whiteley, George (York W. R.)
Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert John	Price, Robert John	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Priestley, Arthur	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Grant, Corrie	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Fred W.(Norfolk, Mid.)
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Harmsworth, Rt. Leicester	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Hayne, Rt. Hn. Charles Seale	Robson, William Snowdon
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Roe, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Helme, Norval Watson	Runciman, Walter	Mr. Schwann and Mr.
Horniman, Frederick John	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Brynmor Jones.

(12.45.) Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill"

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S. W	Morrell, George Herbert
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Galloway, William Johnson	Morrison, James Archibald
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Garfit, William	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Mount, William Arthur
Arrol, Sir William	Gordon, Maj Evans-(TrH'mlets	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Balcarres, Lord	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Nicholson, William Graham
Balfour, Cant. C. B. (Hornsey)	Greene, Sir E W (B'ry S. Edmnds	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Balfour, Rt Hn. Gerald W. (Leeds	Greene, Henry D.(Shrewsbury)	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	O'Doherty, William
Beckett, Ernest William	Gretton, John	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Bignold, Arthur	Groves, James Grimble	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Bigwood, James	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Parkes, Ebenezer
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Percy, Earl
Bond, Edward	Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F.	Pierpoint, Robert
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Pretyman, Ernest George
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Purvis, Robert
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Handles, John S.
Brymer, William Ernest	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Rankin, Sir James
Bulk William James	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Burdett-Coutts W.	Hobhouse, Henry(Somerset, E.)	Ratcliff, R. F.
Butcher, John George	Hogg, Lindsay	Reid, James (Greenock)
Carlile, William Walter	Hope, J.F. (Sheffield ,Brightside	Remnant, James Farquharson
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Howard, John (Kent Faversh'm	Renwick, George
Cautley, Henry Strother	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Ritchie, Rt. Hon. Chas. Thomson
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.)	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn J.A (Worc	Kennaway Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Chapman, Edward	Kennedy, Patrick James	Rutherford, John
Charrington, Spencer	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Keswick, William	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Kimber, Henry	Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Clive, Captain Percy A.	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Seely, Maj J. E.B. (Isle of Wight
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Knowles, Lees	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monmth	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Lawson. John Grant	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Cranborne, Viscount	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stanley, H n. Arthur (Ormskirk
Crossley, Sir Savile	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Dalrymple. Sir Charles	Lockie, John	Stock, James Henry
Davies. Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Stroyan, John
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Long, Col. Charles. W. (Evesham	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Dixon-Hartland Sir Fred Dixon	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E.	Lonsdale, John Brownlee	Talbot, Rt Hn. J.G. (Oxf'd Univ.
Doughty, George	Lowe, Francis William	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n,N
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Lowther, C. (Cumb, Eskdale)	Thornton, Percy M.
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Loyd, Archie Kirkman	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Duke, Henry Edward	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Macdona, John Cumming	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	M' Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Valentia, Viscount
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Vincent, Col Sir C.EH (Sheffield
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Majendie, James A. H.	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Malcolm, Ian	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Finch, George H.	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Welby, Lt-Col A.C.E. (Tannton
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Maxwcll, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Fisher, William Haves	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Whiteley. H (Ashton und. Lyne
Fison, Frederick William	Milvain, Thomas	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Forster, Henry William	Morgan, David J (Walthamst'w	Wilson-Todd ,Wm. H. (Yorks.)

TheCommittee divided:—Ayes, 199; Noes. 93. (Division List No.517.)

Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart	Wylie, Alexander	TELLERSFOR THE AYES—
Wrightson, Sir Thomas	Wyndham, Rt. Ron. George	Sir Alexander Acland-
		Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allen, Charles P. (Glouc., Stroud	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Ashton, Thomas Gaic	Kitson, Sir James	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Lambert, George	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Bavley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Langley, Batty	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Brigg, John	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Caldwell, James	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Soares, Ernest J.
Cameron, Robert	Leng, Sir John	Speacer, Rt Hn C.R (Northants
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Tennant, Harold John
Channing, Francis Allston	Lough. Thomas	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.
Craig, Robert Hunter	M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.
Cremer, William Randal	M'Crae, George	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Dalziel, James Henry	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Davies. Alfred (Carmarthen)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Tomkinson, James
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Moss, Samuel	Toulmin, George
Dewar, John A.(Inverness-sh.)	Newnes, Sir George	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark)	Norman, Henry	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Duncan, J. Hastings.	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Wason, Eugene
Edwards, Frank	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Weir, James Galloway
Elibank, Master of	Partington, Oswald	White, George (Norfolk)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Fenwick, Charles	Philipps, John Wynford	Whiteley, George (York, W.R.)
Gladstone, Rt Hn, Herbert John	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Grant Corrie	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk. Mid.
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Harmswort, R. Leicester	Roberts, John Bryn (Fifion)
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale	Roberts, John H. (Deebighs.)
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Robson, William Snowdon	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Helme, Norval Watson	Roe, Sir Thomas	Sir Edward Strachey and
Horniman, Frederick John	Runciman, Walter	Mr. Beaumont.
Humphreys Owen, Arthur C.	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)

Clause 15:—

Amendment proposed— In page 6, line 29, to leave out the words, 'A local education authority,' and insert the words, An authority having powers under this Act.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

AYES.
Allen, Charles P (Gloue., Stroud.	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Moss, Samuel
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Grant, Corrie	Newnes, Sir George
Atherley-Jones, L.	Griffith, Ellis J.	Norman, Henry
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Nussey, Thomas Willans
Brigg, John	Hayne, Rt Hon. Charles Seale-	Partington, Oswald
Caldwell, James	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Causton, Richard Knight	Helme, Norval Watson	Philipps, John Wynford
Cawley, Frederick	Horniman, Frederick John	Pirie, Duncan V.
Channing, Francis Allston	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Price, Robert John
Craig, Robert Hunter	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Priestley, Arthur
Cremer, William Randal	Lambert, George	Rea, Russell
Dalziel, James Henry	Langley, Batty	Rickett, J. Compton
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Roberts, John (Denbighs.)
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Leng, Sir John	Roe, Sir Thomas
Duncan, J. Hastings	Levy, Maurice	Runciman, Walter
Edwards, Frank	Lewis, John Herbert	Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland)
Elibank, Master of	Lough, Thomas	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan	M'Crae, George	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Fenwick, Charles	Markham, Arthur Basil	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)

(12.58.) Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 88 Noes, 189. (Division List No. 518.)

Soames, Arthur Wellesley	Tomkinson, James	Whitley, J.H. (Halifax)
Soares, Ernest J.	Toulmin, George	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Spencer, Rt Hn. CR (Northants	Trevelyan, Charles Philips	Wilson, Henry J. (York. W. R.
Strachey, Sir Edward	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)	Wason, Eugene
Thomas, Abel (Camarthen, E.	Weir, James Galloway
Thomas, Sir A.(Glamorgan, E.)	White. George (Norfolk)	THLLERS FOR THE AYES—
Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower	White. Luke (York, E. R.)	Mr. Cameron and Mr.
Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.)	Whiteley, George (York, W.R)	Frederick Wilson.

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick S.W	Morghan, David J (Walth'mstow
Agnew, Sir Andrew No I.	Galloway, William Johnson	Morrell. George Herbert
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Garfit, William	Morrison, James Archibald
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Godson, Sir Augustus Fredrick	Moton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Arrol, Sir William	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH' ml'ts	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute
Colonel James Robert	Gonloing, Edward Alfred	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Balcarres, Lord	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Nicholson, William Graham
Balfour, Capt. C.B.(Hornsey)	Greene, Sir E. W (B'ry S Edm'nds	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerard W (Leeds	Greene, Henry D.(Shrewsbury)	Nolan, Col., John P.(Galway, N.
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Greene, W. Raymonnd-(Cambs.	O'Doherty, William
Beekett, Ernest William	Gretton, John	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Bignold, Arthur	Groves, James Grimble	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Bigwood, James	Guest., Hon. Ivor Churchill	Parkes, Ebenezer
Blundell Colonel Henry	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Percy, Earl
Bond, Edward	Halsey, Rt. Hon Thomas F.	Pierpoin, Robert
Boseawen, Arthur Griffith	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Pretyman Ernest George
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Muddle-ex)	Hare Thomas Leigh	Purvis, Robert
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Rankin, Sir, James.
Brown, Hexander H.(Shropsh.	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Renkin, Sir James
Brymer, William Ernest	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Bull, William James	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Ratcliff, R. F.
Bullard, Sir Harry	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Reid, James (Greenmeek)
Butcher, John George	Hogg, Lindsay	Remnant, James Frequharson
Carlile William Walter	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside	Renwick, George
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	Ritchie Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Cautley, Henry Strother	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Hudson, George. Bickersteth	Roberson, Herbert (Hackney)
Ceil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Jebb, Sir Richard. Claverhouse	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A (Worc.	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Chapman Edward	Kemp, George	Rucherford. John
Charrington, Spencer	Kennedy, Patrick James	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denhigh	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Clare, Octatvins Leigh	Keswick, William	Seely, Maj. J.E.B. (Isle of Wight
Cochrane, Hon. Thos,. H. A. E.	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Knowles, Lees	Sinclair, Louis (Rumford)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Lawrence, Sir. Joseph (Monm'th	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Cranhorne, Viscount	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lawson, John Grant	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stanley, Edward Jas (Somerset)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Davies. Sir Horatro D. (Chatham	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Stock, James Henry
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Lockie. John	Stroyan, John
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Stratt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Doughty, George	Long, Col. Charles W.(Evesham	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Long, Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Talbot, Rt Hn, J.G. (Oxf'd Univ.
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Lowe, Francis William	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n, N
Duke, Henry Edward	Lowether, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Thornton, Percy M.
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Macdona, John Cumming	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	M'Arthur Charles (Liverpool)	Tuke, Sir John
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Valentia, Viscount.
Fielden, Edward Broeklehurst	Majendie, James A.H.	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield
Finch, George H.	Malcolm, Ian	Walrond, Rt Hn Sir William H.
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Fisher, William Hayes	Maxwell, W.J. H. (Dumfriessh	Wrelby, Lt.-Col. A.C. Taunt'n
Fison Frederick William	Meysey-Thonipson, Sir H. M.	Wharton, Rt. Hon John Lloyd
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Milvain, Thomas	Whiteley, H.(Ashton und Lyne
Fletcher. Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Moon, Edward Robert Robert Pacy	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Forster, Henry William	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Wilson, A. Stanley. (York, E. R.

Wilson, John (Glasgow)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)	Wylie. Alexander	Sir Alexander Acland
Wortley, Rt Hon. C. B. Stuart-	Wyndham, Rt, Hon. George	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

(1.8.)Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Foster, Phillips. (Warwick, S.W	Murray, Charies J. (Coventry)
Agnew. Sir Andrew Noel	Galloway, Wiliam Johnson	Nicholson, William Graham
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Garfit William	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Arnold Forster, Hugh O.	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Nilan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.)
Arrol, Sir William	Goschen , Hon George Joachim	O' Doherty, William
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Goulding, Edward Alfred.	Orr Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Greene, Sir EW (Bry S Edm'nds	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Balcarres, Lord	Greene, Henry. D. (Shrewsbury)	Parkes, Ebenezer
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey	Greene, W. Rayrnond-(Cambs.)	Percy. Earl
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Gretton, John	Pierpoint, Robert
Balfour, Kanneth R (Christch.	Gloves, James Grimble	Pretvinan, Ernest George
Beckett, Ernest William	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Purvis, Robert
Pignold, Arthur	Guthrie, Walter Murray	handles, John S.
Bigwood, James	Hamilton Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Rankin, Sir James
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Asbf'rd	Ranch, Major Frederic Carne
Bond, Edward	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Ratcliff, R. F.
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Reid, James (Greenock)
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Remnant, James Farquharson
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Renwick, George
Brown, Alexander H. (Shopsh.	Hobbouse, Henry (Somerset E.)	Richie, Rt. Hn Chas Thomson
Beymer, William Ernest	Hogg, Lindsay	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Bull, William James	Hope,(Shffield, Brightside	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Howard John (Kent, Favrsham	Repner, Colonel Robert
Butcher, John George	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Ceeil	Roods, Clement Molyneux
Carlile, William Walter	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Cautley, Henry Strother	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir. John H.	Seely Maj. E.B. (Isle of Wight
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.)	Kennedy, Patrick James	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Cavendish, V.C.W (Derbyshire	Kenyon Hon Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Sinclair, Louis (Rumford)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Keswick, William	Smith Abel H (Hertford, East)
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J. A (Worc.	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Chapman, Edward	Krowles, Lees	Smith, Hon. W. E. D. (Strand)
Charrington, Spencer	Law, Andrew Benar (Glasgow)	Stanley Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Stanley, Edward. Jas. (Somerset)
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Lawson, John Grant	Stock, James Henry
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stroyan, John
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Lockie, John	Talbot, Rt Hn. J.G (Oxf'd Univ.
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Thompson Dr EC (Monagh'n, N
Cranborne, Viscount	Long, Col. Charles W, (Evesham	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Crossley, Sir Savile	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Lowe, Francis William	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Lowther, C. (Comb., Eskdale)	Valentia, Viscount
Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Vincent, Col Sir C.EH (Sheffield
Dimsdale Sir Joseph Cockfield	Macdona, John Cumming	Walrond ,Rt. Hn Sir William H
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	M'Arthur Charles (Liverpool)	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Doughty, George	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Welby, Lt. -Col A .C. E (Tannton
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Majendie, James A. H.	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Boxford, Sir William Theodore	Malcolm, Ian	Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Duke, Henry Edward	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn W,F.	Willox, Sir ,John Archilbald
Bursting-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Maxwell, W.JH (Dumfriesshire	Wilson, A. Stauley Cyrork, E.R.)
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Milvain, Thomas	Worley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Wylie, Alexander
Finch, George H.	Morgan, David J (Walthainstow	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Finlay, Sir Robert Banuatyne	Morrell, George Herbert
Fisher, William Hayes	Morrison, James Archibald
Fison, Frederick William	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Mount, William Arthur	Sir Alexander Acland-
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Forster, Henry William	Murray., Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute

The Committee dovided:—Ayes, 186; Noes, 85. (Division List No 519.)

NOES.
Allen, Charles P. (Glouc., Stroud	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Jones. David Brynmor (Swansea	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Atherley Jones, L.	Lambert, George	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Langley, Batty	Soames. Arthur Wellesley
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Layland Barratt, Francis	Soares, Ernest J.
Brigg, John	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Spencer, Rt Hn C.R (Northants)
Caldwell, James	Levy, Maurice	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton. Richard Knight	Lewis, John Herbert	Taylor, Theodore C (Radcliffe)
Cawley, Frederick	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen ,E.)
Chanmong, Francis Allston.	M'Crae, George	Thomas, Sir A.(Glamorgan, E.
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Crewer, William Randal	Morley, Charles (Breconshire	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Dalziel, James Henry	Moss, Samuel	Tomkinson, James
Davie, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Toulmin, George
Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan	Norman, Henry	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Edwards, Frank	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Weir James Galloway
Elibank, Master of	Partington. Oswald	White, George (Norfolk)
Evans, Samuel T (Glamorgan)	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Fernwick Charles	Philipps, John Wynford	Whiteley, George(York, W. R.)
Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley J. H (Halifax)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Grant. Corrie	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.
Griffh Ellis J.	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W R.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Harmsworth. R. Leicester	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Hayne Rt Hon Charles Seale	Roe, Sir Thomas
Hayter, Rt. Hon St Arthur D.	Runciman, Walter	TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Helme, Norval Watson	Samuel, Herbert L (Cleveland)	Mr. Wason and Mr.
Horniman Fredcrick John	Shaw. Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Duncan.

Amendment proposed— In page6, lines 38 and 39, to leave out the words, 'which has power to adopt or has adopted, Part III. of this Act.'"—(Sir William Anson)

AYES.
Allen Charles P. (Glouc Stroud	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shaw. Thomas (Hawick B.)
Ashton Thomas Gair	Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Atherley-Jones, L	Loambert, George	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Langley, Batty	Scants, Arthur We1lesley
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Layland-Barratt. Francis	Soares, Ernest J.
Brigg John	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Spencer, Rt Hn C.R (Northants
Caldwell, James	Levy, Maurice	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton, Richard Knight	Lewis, John Herbert	Taylor, Theodore C.(Radcliffe
Cawley, Frederick	Lough, Thomas	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E)
Charming, Francis Allston	M'Crae, George	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Cram, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomas JA. (Glamorgan, Gower
Cromer, William Randal	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Dalziel, James Henry	Moss, Samuel	Tomkmson, James
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Toulmin. George
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Norman. Henry	Trevelyan, Charles Philip
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Nussey. Thomas Willans	Wason Eugene
Edwards, Frank	Partington, Oswald	White George (Norfolk
Elibank, Master of	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York. E. R.)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan	Philipps, John Wynford	Whiteley. George (York, W.R.)
Fenwick, Charles	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley, J. H (Halifax
Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert, John	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Goddard. Daniel Ford	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson. Fred. W (Norfolk, Mid
Griffith Ellis J.	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Gurdon. Sir W. Brampton	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, John (Durham. Mid.
Harmsworth. R. Leiceser	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Hayne, Rt Hon. Charles Seale	Roe. Sir Thomas
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Runciman, Walter	TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Helme, Norval Watson	Samuel. Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Mr. Weir and Mr. Corrie
Horniman, Frederick John	Shaw. Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Grant.

(1. 18.) Question put. "That the words' proposed to belet out stand part of the o leave out the Clause."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 85; Noes, 187. (Division List No. 520.)

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Galloway, William Johnson	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Garfit, William	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Nicholson, William Graham
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Gordon, Maj Evans-(TrH'mlets	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Arrol, Sir William	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Nolan, Col., John P. (Galway, N.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Goulding, Edward Alfred	O'Doherty, William
Bain, Colonel dames Robert	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Balcarres, Lord	Greene, Sir EW (B'ry S. Edm'nds	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury)	Parkes, Ebenezer
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Lees	Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs.)	Percy, Earl
Balfour, Kenneth R.	Gretton, John	Pierpoint, Robert
Beckett, Ernest William	Groves, James Grimble	Pretyman, Ernest George
Bignold, Arthur	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Purvis, Robert
Bigwood, James	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Handles, John S.
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Hamilton Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Rankin, Sir James
Bond, Edward	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'd	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Ratcliffe, R. F.
Bowles Capt. H.F.(Middlesex)	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Reid, James (Greenock)
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Remnant, James Farquharson
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.)	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Renwick, George.
Brymer, William Erest	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Bull, William James	Hogg, Lindsay	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Hope, J.F. (Sheffield, Brightside	Roberts-on, Herbert (Hackney)
Butcher. John George	Howard. John (Kent, Faversh'm	Ropier, Colonel Robert
Carlile, William Walter	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Hudson, George Bickersteth	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Cautley, Henry Strother	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Kemp, George	Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (Isle of Wight
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Sharpe, William Edward T.
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A (Worc.	Kennedy, Patrick James	Sinclair, Louis (Rumford)
Chapman, Edward	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T, (Denbigh)	Smith, Abel H(Hertford, East)
Charrington, Spencer	Keswick, William	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Churchill, Winston Spencer	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Stanley, Hon. Arthur (O mskirk
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Knowles, Lees	Stanley Edward, Jas. (Somerses
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'tn	Stock, James Henry
Collings, Rt Hon. Jesse	Lawrence, Wm. E. (Liverpool)	Stroyan, John
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Lawson, John Grant	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Talbot, Rt Hn. J.G, (Oxf'd Univ.
Cranborne, Viscount	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n, N
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lockie, John	Tomlinson, Sir William Edw. M
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham	Take, Sir John Batty
Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham	Long, Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Valentia, Viscount
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Lowe, Francis William	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield
Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fred Dixon	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H
Doughty, George	Lucas, Reginald, J (Portsmouth	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Macdona, John Cumming	Welby, Lt-Col A. C. E. (Taunton
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	M'Arthur. Charles (Liverpool)	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Duke, Henry Edward	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)	Whiteley, H (Ashton-und. Lyne
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Majendie, James A. H.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Malcolm, Ian	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Massey. Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C.B. Stuart
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Finch, George H.	Milvain, Thomas	Wylie, Alexander
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Fisher, William Hayes	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)
Fison, Frederick William	Morgan, David J (Walth'mstow
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Morrell, George Herbert	TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Morrison, James Archibald	Sir Alexander Acland
Forster, Henry William	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S.W	Mount, William Arthur

Amendment proposed— In page 6, line 43, to leave out the words from the word ' Act,' to the end of the Clause, and to add the words, ' and in that case the powers and duties of the authority under this Act shall cease, and the area of the authority' if the powers and duties relinquished include powers as to elementary education, shall as respects those powers and duties be part of the area of the County Council.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

(1.27.) Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."

AYES.
Allen, Chas. P. (Glouc., Stroud)	Horniman, Frederick John	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Atherley. Jones, L.	hones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Lambert, George	Spencer, Rt Hn.C. R. (Northants
Beaumont, Wentworth, C. B.	Langley, Batty	Strachey, Sir Edward
Brigs, John	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Cahlwell, James	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, J.A (Glamorg'n, Gower
Channing, Francis Allston	M'Crae, George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tomkinson, James
Cremer, William Randal	Moss, Samuel	Toulmin, George
Dalziel, James Henry	Newnes, Sir George	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Norman, Henry	Wagon, Eugene
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Weir, James Galloway
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-shire	Nussey, Thomas Wilkins	White, George (Norfolk)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Partington, Oswald	White, Luke (York, E.R.)
Edwards, Frank	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Whiteley, George (York, W.R.)
Elibank, Master of	Philipps, John Wynford	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Pixie, Duncan V.	Whittaker. Thomas Palmer
Fenwick, Charles	Price, Robert John	Wilson Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Grant, Corrie	Rea, Russell	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rickett, J. Compton
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Roe, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR TOE AYES—
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale	Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland)	Mr. Soares and Mr.
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Charles Morley.
Helme, Norval Watson	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury)
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Gretton, John
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Groves, James Grimble
Arrol, Sir William	Cranborne, Viscount	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Crossley, Sir Savile	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x
Balcarres, Lord	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'x
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham	Hare, Maims Leigh
Balfour, Rt Hn. Gerald W. (Leeds	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Dixon-Hartland, Sir Fired Dixon	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Bignold, Arthur	Doughty, George	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Bigwood, James	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hogg, Lindsay
Bond, Edward	Duke, Henry Edward	Hope, J.F. (Sheffield, Brightside
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Darning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Howard, John (Kent. Faversham
Bowles, Capt. H. E. (Middlesex	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Hudson, George Bickersteth
Brown, Alex. H. (Shropshire)	Fellowes, Hon Ailwyn Edw.	Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton
Brymer, William Ernest	Fielden. Edward Brocklehurst	Kemp, George
Bull, William James	Finch, George H.	Kennedy, Patrick James
Bullard, Sir Harry	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Butcher, John George	Fisher, William Hayes	Keswick, William
Carlile, William Walter	Fison, Frederick William	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Fitzroy, Hon. Edw. Algernon	Knowles, Lees
Cautley, Henry Strother	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Law, Andrew Bonar. (Glasgow)
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Forster, Henry William	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh.)	Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick, S.W	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Ceil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Galloway, William Johnson	Lawson, John Grant
Chamberlain, Rt Hn. J.A. (Worc.	Garfit, William	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Chapman, Edward	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Charrington, Spencer	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rHmlets	Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Churchill, Winston Spencer	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Lockie, John
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Greene, Sir EW (B'ry S Edm'nds	Long, Rt Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 81; Noes, 183. (Division List No. 521.)

Lowe, Francis William	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Stock, James Henry
Lowther, C. (Crumb., Eskdale)	Parkes, Ebenezer	Stroyan, John
Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Percy, Earl	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Macdona, John Cumming	Pierpoint, Robert	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
M'Arthor, Charles (Liverpool)	Pretyman, Ernest George	Thompson, Dr EC (Monagh'n, N
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Purvis, Robert	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Majendie, James A. H.	Randles, John S.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Malcolm, Ian	Rankin. Sir James	Valcntia, Viscount
Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Walrond, Rt. Hon. Sir Wm. H.
Maxwell, W. J. H. (Dumfries-sh	Ratcliff, R. E.	Warde, Colonel C, E.
Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Reid, James (Greenock)	Welby, Lt-Col. A.C. E (Tannt'n
Milvain, Thomas	Remnant, James Farquharson	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Renwick, George	Whiteley, H (Ashtonund Lyne
More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Ritchic, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Morgan Davod J. (Wraith 'mst'w	Robert, Samuel (Sheffield)	Willson, A. Stonley (York, E.R.
Morrell, George Herbert	Roberts, Herbert (Hackney)	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Morrison, James Archibald	Ropier, Colonel Robert	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Morton. Arthur H. Aylmer	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Mount, William Arthur	Stickville, Col. S. G. Stopford	Wylie, Alexander
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Murray, Rt Hn A Graham (Bute	Seely, Maj. J.E.B. (Isle of Wight
Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Smith, Abel H (Hertford, East)
Nicholson. William Graham	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Nicol, Donald. Ninian	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Sir Alexander Acland-
Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.	Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk	Hood and Mr. Anstrather.
O'Doherty, William	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)

(1.38.) Question put, "That those words be there added."

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hope, J. F. (Sheffield ,Brightside
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham	Howard John (Kent, Faversh'm
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfeld	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil
Arrol, Sir William	Doughty, George	Hudson George Bickersteth
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir James
Balcarres, Lord	Duke Henry Edward	Kennedy, Patrick James
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Durning Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W.(Leeds	Egerton, Hon. A. de Talton	Keswick, William
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants W,	King, Sir Henry Seymour
Bignold, Arthur	Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Knowles, Lees
Bigwood, James	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Finch, George H.	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Finlay, Sir Robert, Banatyne	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex)	Fisher, William Hayes	Lawson, John Grant
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Fison Frederick William	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Legh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Brymer, William Ernest	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Lockie, John
Bull, William James	Forster, Henry William	Long, Col. Charles W.(Evesham
Bullard, Sir Harry	Foster, Philip S. (Warwick S.W.	Long, Rt Hn Walter (Bristol, S.
Butcher, John George	Galloway, William Johnson	Lowe, Francis William
Carlile, William Walter	Garfit, William	Lowther, C. (Comb. Eskdale)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth
Cautley, Henry Strother	Gordon, Maj Evans. (TrH'iurt s	Maedima, John Cumming
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Goschen Hon George Joachim	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Goulding Edward Alfred	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Malcolm. Ian
Chamberlain, Rt Hn J. A (Worc.	Greene, Sir E.W (B'ry S Edmds	Massey Mainwaring Hn W.F.
Chapman, Edward	Greene, W. Raymund-(Cambs.	Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire
Charrington, Spencer	Gretton, John	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.
Clare, Octavous Leigh	Groves, James Grimble	Milvain, Thomas
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Guthrie, Walter Murray	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropsh.)
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord (Midd'x	Morgan, D. J. (Walthanistow)
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Morrell, George Herbert
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Merrison, James Archibald
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Hatch, Ernest Frederick	Morton. Arthur H. Aylmer
Cranborne, Viscount	Hay, Hon. Claude George Geo.	Mount, William Arthur
Crossley. Sir Savile	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hogg, Lindsay	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 176; Noes, 81. (Division List No. 522)

Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Roberts. Samuel (Sheffield)	Take, Sir John Batty
Nicholson, William Graham	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Valentia Viscount
Nicol, Donald Ninian	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Vincent,Col. Sir CEH(Sheffield
Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway,N.	Royds, Clement Molyneux	Wairond.Rt Hn.Sir Willam H.
O'Doherty William	Saukville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Sadler, Col, Samuel Alexander	Welby,Lt.-Col. A. C.E(Taunton
Palmer, Walter(Salisbury)	Seely, Maj.J.E B.(IsleofWight	Wharton, Rt, Hon. John Lloyd
Parke, Ebenezer	Smith, Abel H.(Hertfard, East)	Whiteley H(Ashton und, Lyne
Percy, Earl	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Pierpoint, Robert	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Pretyman, Ernest, George	Stanley,HonArthur(Ormskirk	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Purvis Robert	Sta[...]y,EdwardJas.(Somerset	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Randles, John S.	Stanley. Lord (Lancs.)	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Rankin, Sir James	Stock, James Henry	Wylie, Alexander
Rasch Major Frederic Carne	Stroyan, John	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Ratcliff, R.F.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hadley
Reid, James (Greenock)	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Remnant James Farquharson	Thompson,Dr EC(Monagh'n, N	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Renwick, George	Tomlinson. Sir Wm. Edw. M.	Sir Alexander Acland
Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Athe[...]ey, Jones, L.	Jones, David Brynmor (Swansea	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Bayley Thomas (Derbyshire)	Lambert, George	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Langley, Batty	Soares, Ernest J.
Brigg, John	Layland-Burratt, Francis	Spencer, RtHn. (Northants
Caldwell, James	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Strachey, Sir Edward
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Channing, Francis Allston	M'Crac, George	Thomas,J.A(Glamorgan, Gower
Craig, Robert, Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Thomson, F. W.(York, W. R.)
Cremer, William Randal	Morley, Chares (Breconshire)	Tomkinson, James
Dalziel, James Henry	Moss, Samuel	Toulmin, George
Davies, Alfred, (Carmarthen)	Newnes Sir George	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies M. Vanghan-(Cordigan	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	Watson, Eugene
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Nusey, Thomas Willans	Weir, James Galloway
Dunman, J. Hastings	Partington, Oswald	White, George (Norfolk)
Edwards, Frank	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Elibank, Master of	Philipps, John Wynford	Whiteley, George (York,W. R.)
Evans, Samuel T. (Girmorgan)	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley, J.H. (Halifax)
Fenwick, Charles	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Gurdstone, Rt. Hn. HerbertJohn	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson,Fred.W.(Norfolk.Mid
Grant, Corrie	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J.(York,W. R.
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Roe. Sir Thomas
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Runciman, Walter	TELLERS FOE. THE NOES—
Hayter, Rt Hon.Sir Arthur D	Samuel, Herbert L. Cleveland	Mr. Allen and Air Mr.
Helme, Norval Watson	Shaw, Chas. Edw. (Stafford)	Goddard.
Horniman, Frederick John	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)

(1.48.) Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Bowles, Capt. H F. (Middles'x	Chapman Edward
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Charrington, Spencer
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Brown Alexander H.(Shropsh.	Clare, Octavius Leigh
Arrol, Sir William	Brymer, William Ernest	Clive, Captain Percy A.
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Bull, William James	Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Bullard, Sir Harry	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse
Balcarres, Lord	Butcher, John George	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Carlile, William Walter	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow
Balfour, Rt HnGerald W.(Leeds	Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw.H	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch	Cautley, Henry Strother	Cranborne, Viscount
Bignold, Arthur	Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Crossley, Sir Savile
Bigwood, James	Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire	Cubitt, Hon. Henry
Blundell Colonel Henry	Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Dalrymple Sir Charles
Boseawen, Arthur Griffith-	Chamberlin RtHnJ.A (Worc	Davies, Sir HoratioD(Chatham

The Committee divided:— Ayes, 178; Noes, S3, (Division List No. 523.)

Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Rankin, Sir James
Doughty, George	Knowles, Lees	Hasch, Maior Frederic Carne
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow	Ratcliff,R. F.
Doxford, Sir Willam Thedore	Lawrence,Sir Joseph(Monm'th	Reid, James (Greenock)
Duke, Henry Edward	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Remnant, James Farquharson
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Lawson, John Grant	Renwick, George
Egerton, Hon A. de Tatton	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants., W.	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Lockie, John	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Finch, George H.	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Long,Col.CharlesW.(Evesham	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Fisher, William Hayes	Long,Rt. Hn.Walter(Bristol,S.	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Fison, Frederick William	Lowe, Francis William	Seely Maj.J.E.B. (Isle of Wight
Fitzroy, Hon. EdwardAlgernon	Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale)	Smith,Abel H.(Hertford, East)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Lucas,Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Forster, Henry William	Macdona, John Cumming	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick,S. W	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Stanley, Hon Arthur (Ormskirk
Galloway, William Johnson	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Stanley, EdwardJas. (Somerset
Garfit, William	Majendie James A. H.	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Malcolm, Ian	Stock, James Henry
Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets	Massey-Mainwaring,Hn. W. F.	Stroyan, John
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Maxwell, W. J. H. (Dumfriessh.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Milvain, Thomas	Thompson, Dr EC (Mornagh'n, N
Greene, SirEW(B'ryS.Edmn'ds	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Tomlinson, Sir Wm Edw. M.
Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Gretton, John	Morgan, DavidJ (Walth'mstow	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Groves, James Grimble	Morrell, George Herbert	Valentia, Viscount
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	Morrison, James Archibald	Vincent, Col. SirCEH(Sheffield
Guthrie, Walter Murray	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Walrond, Rt. Hn.SirWilliamH.
Hardy, Laurence(Kent,Ashf'rd	Mount, William Arthur	Warde, Cohmel C. E.
Hare, Thomas Leigh	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Welby,Lt -Col A.C.E.(Taunton
Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Murray,RtHn A. Graham(Bute	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Hay, Hon. Claude George	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Whiteley, H (Asliton-und-Lyne
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Nicholson, William Graham	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Hogg, Lindsay	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Wilson,A. Stanley (York, E.R.
Hope, J.F. (Sheffield,Brightside	Nolan,Col. John P. (Galway,N.)	Wilson, John (Glasgow
Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	O'Doherty, William	Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Hozier, Hon. James HenryCecil	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Wylie, Alexander
Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Parkes, Ebenezer	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Kemp, George	Percy, Earl
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. SirJohnH.	Pierpoint, Robert
Kennedy, Patrick James	Pretyman, Ernest George	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Purvis, Robert	Sir Alexander Acland
Keswick, William	Handles, John S.	Hood and Mr. Anstruther

NOES.
Allen, CharlesP.(Glonc.,Stroud	Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Philipps, John Wynford
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Harmsworth, R, Leicester	Pirie, Duncan V.
Atherley-Jones, L.	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Price, Robert John
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Hayter,Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Priestley, Arthur
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Heinle, Norval Watson	Rea, Russell
Brigg, John	Horniman, Frederick John	Rickett, J, Compton
Caldwell, James	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Roe, Sir Thomas
Causton, Richard Knight	Jones, David Brymnor(Sw'nsea	Runciman, Walter
Cawley, Frederick	Lambert, George	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland
Channing Francis Allston	Langley, Batty	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Dalziel, James Henry	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Levy, Maurice	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan	Lewis, John Herbert	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	M'Arthur, William (Cornwall)	Soares, Ernest J.
Duncan, J. Hastings.	M'Crae, George	Spencer,Rt. Hn.C.R(Northants
Edwards, Frank	Markham, Arthur Basil	Strachey, Sir Edward
Elibank, Master of	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Moss, Samuel	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Fenwick, Charles	Newnes, Sir George	Thomson, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Gladstone, Rt Hn. HerbertJohn	Norman, Henry	Tomas,J A (Glamorgan, Gower
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Grant, Corrie	Partington, Oswald	Tomkinson, James
Griffith, Ellis J.	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Toulmin, George

Trevelyan, Charles Philips	Whiteley, George (York, W. R.	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Wason, Eugene	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Weir, James Galloway	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer	TELLERS FOR THE NOES —
White, George (Norfolk)	Wilson,Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid.	Mr. Herbert Roberts and
White, Luke (York, E. R.)	Wilson, Henry J. (York,W.R.)	Mr. Cremer.

Clause 16:—

Amendment proposed— In page 7, lines 10 and 11. to leave out the words, as respects a Provisional Order constituting an Eeducation Committee.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

AYES.
Allen, Charles P. (Glone., Stroud	Helme, Norval Watson	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Horniman, Frederick John	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Atherley-Jones, L.	Jones, David Brynmor(Swansea	Soares, Ernest J.
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Lambert, George	Spencer,RtHn C. R. (Northants
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Langley, Batty	Strachey, Sir Edward
Brigg, John	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Caldwell, James	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen,E.)
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maunice	Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Cawley, Frederick	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas,J A(Glamorgan,Gower
Channing, Francis Allston	M`Crae, George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Craig, Robert Hunter	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tomk nson, James
Cremer, William Randal	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Toulmin, George
Dalziel, James Henry	Moss, Samuel	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Newnes, Sir George	Wason, Eugene
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan)	Nussey, Thomas Willans	Weir, James Galloway
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.)	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, George (Norfolk)
Duncan, J. Hastings	Philipps, John Wynford	White, Luke (York, E.R.)
Edwards, Frank	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whiteley, George (York ,W. R.)
Elibank Master of	Price, Robert John	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Priestley, Arthur,	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Fenwick, Charles	Rea, Russell	Wilson, Fred.W.(Norfolk,Mid.
Gladstone, Rt. Hn.HerbertJohn	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, Henry J. (York,W. R.)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs)	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Grant, Currie	Roe, Sir Thomas
Griffith, Ellis J.	Runciman, Walter
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)	Mr. Humphreys Owen and
Rayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick, B.)	Captain Norton.
Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Shipman, Dr. John G.

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Cecil, Evelyn (Ashton Manor)	Fellowes, Hn. Ailwyn Edward
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. JA (Worc.	Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Chapman, Edward	Finch, George H.
Arrol, Sir William	Charrington, Spencer	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Clare, Octavius Leigh	Fisher, William Hayes
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Clive, Captain Percy A.	Fison, Frederick William
Balearres, Lord	Cochrane, Hon. ThomasH. A. E.	Fitzroy, Hrs. Edward Algernon
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry
Balfour, Rt. Hn GeraldW.(Leeds	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Forster, Henry William
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch.	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Foster, PhilipS. (Warwick,S.W
Bignold, Arthur	Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Garfit, William
Bigwood, James	Cranborne, Viscount	Godson, Sir Augustus Fredrick
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Crossley, Sir Savile	Gordon,Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Cubitt, Hon Henry	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim
Brookfield, Colonel Montague	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Goulding, Edward Alfred
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.	Davies,Sir HoratioD.(Chatham	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)
Brymer, William Ernest	Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Greene,Sir E W (B'ry S. Edm'ds
Bullard, Sir Harry	Doughty, George	Greene, W. Raymond- (Cambs.)
Butcher, John George	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Gretton, John
Carlile, William Walter	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Groves, James Grimble
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H.	Duke, Henry Edward	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill
Cautley, Henry Strother	Darning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.)	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Hamilton, Rt. Hn. Ld. G (Midd'x
Cavendish, V. C. W(Derbyshire	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants,W.)	Hardy, Laurence(Kent,Ashf'rd

(1.59.) Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 81; Noes, 173. (Division List No. 524.)

Hare, Thomas Leigh	Maxwell, W.J H(Dumfriesshire	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Hay, Hon. Claude George	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (I. of Wight
Hoare, Sir Samuel	Milvain, Thomas	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, E.)
Hogg, Lindsay	Moon, Edward. Robert Pacy	Smith James Parker (Lanarks
Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropsh.)	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Howard, John(Kent. Faversh'm	Morgall, DavidJ (Walthamsto	Stanley, Hon Arthur(Ormskirk
Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil	Morell, George Herbert	Stanley, Edward, Jas. (Somerset
Hudson, George Bickersteth	Morrison, James Archibald	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer	Stock, James Henry
Kemp, George	Mount, William Arthur	Stroyan, John
Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Kennedy, Patrick James	Murray, RtHnA. Graham(Bute	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Muarray, Charles J. (Coventry)	Thompson, Dr. EC(Monagh'nN
Keswick, William	Nicholson, William Graham	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
King, Sir Henry Seymour	Nicol, Donald Ninian	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Knowles, Lees	O'Doherty, William	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Valentia, Viscount
Lawrence, Sir. Joseph (Monm'th	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH (Sheffield
Lawrence, Wm. E (Liverpool)	Parkes, Ebenezer	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Lawson, John Grant	Percy, Earl	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Pierpoint, Robert	Welby, Rt.-Col ACE(Taunton)
Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Pretyman, Ernest George	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Purvis, Robert	Whiteley, H. (Ashton und. Lyne
Lockie, John	Randles, John S.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Rankin, Sir James	Wilson,A. Stanley (York ,E. R.)
Long, Col. CharlesW.(Evesham	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol S.	Reid, James (Greenock)	Wortley, Rt. Hon.C.B.Stuart-
Lowe, Francis William	Remnant, James Farquharson	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Renwick, George	Wylie, Alexander
Lucas, ReginaldJ.(Portsmouth	Ritcnie, Rt. Hon.(Chas.Thomson	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Macdona, John Cumming	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Ropner, Colonel Robert	Sir Alexander Acland
Majendie, James A. H.	Royds, Clement, Molyneux	Hood and
Massey-Mainwaring, Hon. W. F	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-	Mr. Anstruther.

Amendment proposed— In page 7, line 18, to leave out the word but,' and insert the words, ' and any such scheme or any Provisional Order made for the purposes of such a scheme.'"—(Sir William Anson.)

AYES
Allen, Chas. P. (Glonc., Stroud	Hayter, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Helme, Norval Watson	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Atherley-Jones, L.	Horniman, Frederick John	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Humphreys-Owen,Arthur C.	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Beaumont, Wentworth C. B.	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Snaffles, Arthur Wellesley
Brigg, John	Lambert, George	Soares, Ernest J.
Caldwell, James	Langley, Batty	Spencer, RtHn.C.R.(Northants
Causton, Richard Knight	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Strachey, Sir Edward
Cawley, Frederick	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe
Channing, Francis Allston	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.
Craig, Robert Hunter	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomas, JA(Glamorgan,Gower
Cremer, William Randal	M'Crae, George	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Dalziel, James Henry	Markham, Arthur Basil	Tomkinson, James
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Moss, Samuel	Wason, Eugene
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Newnes, Sir George	Weir, James Galloway
Edwards, Frank	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Elibank, Master of	Philipps, John Wynford	Whiteley, George (York, E. R.)
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Fenwick, Charles	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk,Mid.
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Pea, Russell	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Grant, Corrie	Rickett, J Compton	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Griffih, Ellis J.	Roberts, John (Denbighs.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roe, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Harmsworth, R. Leicester	Runciman, Walter	Mr. George White and
Hayne, Rt Hon. CharlesSeale-	Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland)	Mr. Toulmin.

(2.10) Question put, "That the word 'but' stand part of the Clause."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 77; Noes, 172. (Division List No. 525).)

NOES
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Garfit, William	Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham(Bute.
Ark wright, John Stanhope	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Gordon, Maj Evans-(T'rH'mlets	Nicholson, William Graham
Arrol, Sir William	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Atkinson Rt. Hon. John	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Nolan Col. John P.(Galway, N.)
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Greene, sirEW (B'ryS Edm'nds	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Balcarres, Lord	Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs.)	O'Dolterty, William
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hurnsey)	Gretton, John	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Balfour, Rt Hn Grald W(Leeds	Groves, James Grimble	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Balfour, Kenneth (Christch.	Guest, Hon Ivor Churchill	Parkes, Ebenezer
Bignold, Archur	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Percy, Earl
Bigwood, James	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord. G(Midd'x	Pierpoint, Robert
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Pretyman, Ernest George
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Purvis, Robert
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Bandies, John S.
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Rankin, Sir James
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Bryme, William Ernest	Hogg, Lindsay	Reid, James (Greenock)
Bill, William James	Flope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside	Remnant, James Farquharson
Bullard, Sir Harry	Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	Renwick, George
Butcher, John George	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Ritchie, Rt Hon. Chas. Thomson
Carlile, William Walter	Hud[...]on, George Bickersteth	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Carson, Rt. Hun. Sir Edw. H.	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney
Cautley, Henry Strother	Kennaway, Hon. Sir John H.	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Cavendish, P. F. (N. Lancs)	Kennedy, Patrick James	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Cavendish, V. C. W.(Derbyshire	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Saukville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Keswick, William	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexandra
Chamberlain Rt HnJ.A(Worc.	King, Sir Henry, Seymour	Seeley, Maj.J E B(Isle of Wight
Chapman, Edward	Knowles, Lees	Smith, Abel H(Hertford, East)
Charrington, Spencer	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)	Smith, James Parker (Lanark.)
Clare, Octavins Leigh	Lawrence, Sir Joseph(Monm' th	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Stanley, Hn. Arthur(Ormskirk
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Lawson, John Grant	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Corbett, A Cameron(Glasgow)	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Stock, James Henry
Cox, Irwin, Edward Bainbridge	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Stroyan, John
Cranborne, Viscount	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lockie John	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Thompson, Dr EC(Monagh'n,N
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Long, Col. Charles W (Evesham	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Davies, Sir HoratioD. (Chatham	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol ,S	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Lowe, Francis William	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Doughty, George.	Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale)	Valentia, Viscount
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Vincent, Col. SirC. E. H (Shef'ld
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Macdona, John Cumming	Walrond, Rt. Hn Sir William H.
Duke, Henry Edward	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Darning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	M'Killop, James(Stirlingshire)	Welby, Lt.-Col. A. C E(Taunton
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Majendie, James A. H.	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.	Massey- Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Whiteley, H. (Asht'n und Lyne
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Maxwell, W.J. H. (Dumfriessh.	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Wilson, A. Stanley(York,E. R.)
Finch, George H.	MilVain, Thomas	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Fisher, William Hayes	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropsinre)	Wylie Alexander
Fison, Frederick William	Morgan, David J(Walth'mstow	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Morrell, George Herbert
Fletcher, Et. Hon. Sir Henry	Morrison, James Archibald	TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Forster, Henry William	Mount, William Arthur	Sir Alexander Acland
Foster, Philips. (Warwick, S. W.	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

(2.18.) Question put, "That the words, and any scheme or any provisional

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 168; Noes, 75. (Division List No. 526.),
AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Balcarres, Lord
Arkwright , John Stanhope	Bignold, Arthur	Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Bigwood, James	Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W(Leeds
Arrol, Sir William	Bain, Colonel James Robert	Balfour, Kenneth R.(Christch.

Order made for the purposes of such a scheme' be there inserted."

Blundell, Colonel Henry	Greene, Sir EW(WryS'Edm'nds	Murray, Charles J. (Covent[...]y)
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith	Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs)	Nicholson, William Graham
Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex)	Gretton, John	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Groves, Janice Grimble	Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway,N.)
Brown, Alexander H (Shropsh.)	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	O'Doherty, William
Brymer, William Ernest	Guthrie, Walter Murray	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Bull, William James	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord(Midd'x	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Bullard, Sir Harry	Hardy, Laurence(kent, Ashf'rd	Parkes, Ebenezer
Butcher John George	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Pretyman, Ernest George
Catlile, William Walter	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Purvis, Robert
Cautley, Henry Strother	Hoare., Sir Samuel	Randles, John S.
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.)	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Rankin, Sir James
Cavendish, V C W.(Derbyshire	Hogg, Lindsay	Reid, James (Greenock)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Hope J.F(Sheffield, Brightside	Remnant, James Farquharson
Chamberlain, Rt HnJ.A.(Worc	Howard, John(Kent Faversh'm	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Chapman, Edward	Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Charrington, Spencer	Hudsn, George Bickersteth	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Royds, Clement. Molyneux
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Kennedy, Patrick James	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Keswick, William	Seely, Maj. E.J.(Isle of Wight,
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	king, Sir Henry Seymour	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge	Knowles, Lees	Smith, James Parker(Lanarks.)
Cranborne, Viscount	Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lawrence, Wm F (Liverpool)	Stanley, Hon Arthur (Ormskirk
Cubitt, Hon Henry	Lawrence, Sir Joseph(Monin'th	Stanley, Edward, Jas,.(Comerset
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Lawson, John Grant	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Davies, Sir Horatio D(Chatham	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stock, Janie Henry
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Strovan, John
Doughty, George	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Strutt Hon. Charles Hedley
Douglas, Rt. -Hon. A. Akers	Lockie, John	Talbot, Lad E. (Chichester)
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Thompson, DrEC(Monagh'n N.
Dake, Henry Edward	Long, Col Charles W.(Evesham	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S.	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lowe, Francis William	Valentia, Viscount
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants. W.)	Lowther, C. (Comb., Eskdale)	Vincent, ColsirC.E.H(Sheffield
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Lucas, Reginald.(Portsm[...]	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Macdona, John Cumming	Warde, Colonel C. E.
Finch, George H.	M'Arthhur, Charles (Liverpool	Welby, Lt-Col. A. C.E(Tannt'n
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	M'killop, James(Stirlingshire)	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Fisher, William Hayes	Majendie, James A. H	Whiteley, H (Ashton und Lyne
Fison, Frederick William	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Willox Sir. John Archibald
Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon	Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Wilson, A. Stanley(York, E. R)
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Forster, Henry William	Milvain Thomas	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Foster, Philips. (Warwick, SW.	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy	Wylie, Alexander
Galloway, William Johnson	More, Robt. Jasper(Shropshire)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Garfit, William	Morgan, David. J.(Walth'mstow
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Morrell, George Herbert
Gordon, Maj Evans(T'rH'mlets	Morrison, James Archibald	TELLERS TOR THE AYES—
Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Mount, William Arthur	Sir Alexander Acland
Goulding, Edward Alfred	Mowlway, Sir Robert Gray C.	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Murray, Rt Hn. A Grahanm(Bute

NOES.
Allen, Chas. P.(Gldone., Stroud.	Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Lewis, John Herbert
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Fenwick, Charles	M'Crae, George
Atherley Jones, L.	Gladstone, Rt. Hn Herbert John	Markham Arthur Basil
Brigg, John	Goddard, Daniel Ford	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)
Caldwell, James	Grand, Corrie	Moss, Samuel
Carleton, Richard Knight	Griffith, Ellis J.	Newnes Sir George
Cawley, Frederick	Gurdon, Sir Wm, Brampton	Norton, Capt. Cecil William
Charming, Francis Allston	Hayne. Rt. Hon. Charles Scale	Nussey, Thomas Willans
Craig, Robert. Hunter	Hayter, Rt Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Cremer, William Randal	Helme, Norval Wartson	Philipps, John Wynford
Dalziel, James Henry	Honriman, Frederick John	Pirie, Duncan V.
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C.	Price, Robert John
Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan	Jones, David Brynmor(Swansea	Priestley, Arthur
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Lambert, George	Rea Russell
Duncan, J. Hastings	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Rickett, J. Compton
Edwards, Frank	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Roberts, John H.(Denbighs.)
Elibank, Master of	Levy, Maurice	Roe, Sir Thomas

Runciman, Walter	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R)	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Samuel. Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Tomkinson, James	Wilson. Fred. W (Norfolk, Mid.
Shaw Thomas (Hawick, B.)	Toulmin, George	Wilson. Henry J (York, W. R.)
Shipman. Dr. John G.	Trevelyan, Charles Philips	Wilson. John (Durham, Mid.)
Sinclair, John (Forforshire)	Wason, Eugene
Soames, Arthur Wellesley	Weir, James Galloway
Sares, Ernest J.	White George (Norfolk)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Spencer. Rt. H.C. (Northants	White, Luke (York, E. R.)	Mr. Charles Shaw and
Thomas. Abel (Camimarthen, E.	White. Luke (York, W.R.	Mr. Batty Langley.
Thomas, JA (Gla[...]rg n, Gower	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)

Amendment proposed— In page 7, line 19, at the end to add the words 'as a scheme for establishing an Education Committee under this Act'"—(Sir William Anson.)

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Fitzroy, Hon Edward Algernon	Maxwell. W J H (Dunfriesshire
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Flectcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Meysey-Thomson, Sir H. M.
Arnold Forster, Hugh O.	Forster, Henry William	Milvain Thomas
Arrol, Sir William	Foster Philip S (Warwick, S.W.	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Galloway, William Johnson	More, Robt, Jasper (Shropshire
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Garfit, William	Morgan, David J.(Walth'mst'w
Balcarres, Lord	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Morrell, George Herbert
Balfour Capt. C.B (Hornsey)	Gorden, Maj Evans-(T'rH'ml'ts	Morrison, James Archibald
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerld W. (Leeds	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Mount, William Arthur
Balfour, Kenneth R (Christch.)	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Bignold Arthur	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Mowbray, Rt Hn A Graham (Bute
Bigwood, James	Greene, Sir E.W. (B'ry S Ed'mnds	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs.	Nicholson, William Graham
Boseawen, Arthur Grffith	Grotton, John	Nicol, Donald Ninian
Bowles Capt H.F.(Middlesex	Groves, James Grimble	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N
Brookfield, Colonel Mentagu	Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill	O'Doherty, William
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh	Guthire, Walter Murray	Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay
Brymer, William Ernest	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Bull William James	Hardy, Laurence(Ken, Ashf'rd	Parkes, Ebenezer
Butcher, John George	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Percy, Earl
Carlile William Walter	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Pierpoint, Robert
Cautley Henry Strother	Hay, Hon. Claude George	Pretyman, Ernest George
Cavendish. R.F. (N. Lancs)	Hoare, Sir Samuel	Purvis, Robert
Cavendish V.C.W. (Derbyshire	Hogg, Lindsay	Randles, John S.
Cecil Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Hope, J,F. (Shiffield, Brightside	Rankin. Sir James
Chamberlain Rt Hn JA (Worc'r	Howard, John (Kent Faversh'm	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Chapman, Edward	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil	Reid, James (Greenock)
Charrington, Spencer	Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton	Reid, James Farguharson
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir John H.	Ridley, Hon. M. W. (Stalybridge)
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Kennedy, Patrick James	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Cochiane, Hon, Thos. H.A.E.	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Keswick, William	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	King, Sir Henry Seymour	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Knowles, Lees	Sackvile, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Cranborne, Viscount	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Crossley, Sir Savile	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (Isle of Wight)
Cubitt, Hon Henry	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Smith, Abel H (Hertford, East)
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Lawson, John Grant	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.)
Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand)
Dimsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie	Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk
Doughty, George	Llewellyn, Even Henry	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset)
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Lockie, John	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.)
Doxford Sir William Theodore	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Stanley, James Henry
Duke, Henry Edward	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham	Stroyan, John
Duming Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Lowe, Francis William	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Faber, Edmund B.(Hants, W.)	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Thompson, Dr, E C (Monagh'n, N
Fellowe, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth	Thomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst	Macdona, John Cumming	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Finch, George H	M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Valentia, Viscount
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire	Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. H (Sh'ffi'ld
Fisher, William Hayes	Majendie, James A.H.	Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir William H.
Fison, Frederick William	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F.	Warde, Colonel C. E.

(2.28.) Question put, "That those Words be there added."

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 167; Noes, 75. (Division List No. 527.)

Welby, Lt.-Col. A.C.E (Taunton	Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R)	TELLERS FOR THE AYES,
Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd	Wilson, John (Glasgow)	Sir Alexander Acland-
Whiteley, H. (Ashen und. Lyne	Wylie, Alexander	Hood and Mr. Anstruther
Willox, Sir John Archibald	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George

NOES.
Allen, Charles P (Glouc., Stroud	Horniman, Frederick John	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Humphr ys-Owen, Arthur C.	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Atherley-Jones, L.	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Bayley, Thos (Derbyshire)	Lambert, George	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Brigg, John	Langley, Batty	Soares, Ernest J.
Caldwell, James	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Spencer. Rt Hn C. R. (Northants
Causton, Richard Knight	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.
Cawley, Frederick	Levy, Maurice	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Channing, Francis Allston	Lewis, John Herbert	Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.)
Craig, Robert Hunter	M'Crae, George	Tomkinson, James
Cremer, William Randal	Markham. Arthur Basil	Toulmin, George
Dalziel, James Henry	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Moss, Samuel	Wason, Eugene
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Newnes, Sir George	Weir, James Galloway
Duncan, J. Hastings	Norton, Capt. Cecil William	White, George (Norfolk)
Edwards, Frank	Nussey, Thomas Willans	White, Luke (York, E.R.)
Elibank, Master of	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	Whiteley, George (York, W.R.
Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan)	Philipps, John Wynford	Whaley, J. H (Halifax)
Fenwick, Charles	Price, Duncan V.	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Gladstone, Rt Hn Herbert John	Price, Robert. John	Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Grant, Corrie	Rea, Russell
Griffith, Ellis J.	Rickett, J. Compton
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs)	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale-	Roe, Sir Thomas	Mr. Henry J. Wilson and
Hayter. Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur D.	Runciman, Waller	Mr. Herbert Samuel.
Helme, Norval Watson	Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)

(2.43.) Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."

AYES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Groves, James Grimble
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Guest, Hem. Ivor Churchill
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O.	Cranhorne, Viscount	Guthrie, Walter Murray
Arrol, Sir William	Crossley, Sir Savile	Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Mlidd x
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashf'rd
Bain, Col. James Robert	Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Hare, Thomas Leigh
Balcarres, Lord	Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatbam	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey)	Dinsdale, Sir Joseph Cockfield	Hay, Hon. Claude George
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds	Doughty, George	Hoare, Sir Samuel
Balfour. Kenneth R. (Christch.	Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	Hogg, Lindsay
Bignold, Arthur	Doxford, Sir William Theodore	Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside
Bigwood, James	Duke, Henry Edward	Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Darning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith-	Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton
Bowies, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex	Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Kemp, George
Brookfield, Colonel Montagu	Fellowes, Hn. Ailwyn Edward	Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H.
Brown, Alexander H.(Shropsh.	Fielden, Edward Brocklchurst	Kennedy, Patrick James
Brymer, William Ernest	Finch, George H.	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh)
Bull, William James	Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	Keswick, William
Bullard, Sir Harry	Fisher, William Hayes	Knowles, Lees
Butcher, John George	Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Carlile, William Walter	Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Lawrence, Sir. Joseph (Monm'th
Cautley, Henry Strother	Forster, Henry William	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)
Cavendish, Rt. F. (N. Lancs.)	Foster, Philip S (Warwick, S.W.	Lawson, John Grant
Cavendish, V.C. W, (Derbyshire)	Galloway, William Johnson	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick	Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. A (Worc.	Gordon, Maj Evans(T'rH'ml'ts	Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Chapman, Edward	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Lockie, John
Charrington, Spencer	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Long, Col Charles W, (Evesham
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Greene, Sir EW (B'ry S Edm'nds)	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Lowe, Francis William
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Gretton, John	Lowther, C. (Cum., Eskdale)

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 166; Noes, 71. (Division List No. 528.)

Lucas, Reginald J(Portsmouth	Parkes, Ebenezer	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Macdona, John Cumming	Percy, Earl	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Pierpoint, Robert.	Thompson, Dr EC(Monagh'nN
M'Killop, James(Stirlingshire)	Pretyman, Ernest George	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Majendie, James A. H.	Purvis, Robert	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col Edward
Massey-Mainwaring. Hn. W.F	Rankin Sir James	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Maxwell, WJH (Dumfriesshire	Rasch, Major Frederic Carne	Valentia, Viscount
Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.	Reid, James (Greenock)	Vincent, Col. Sir CEH(Sheffield
Milvain, Thomas	Remnant, James Farquharson	Walrond, Rt Hn. Sir William H.
Moon. Edward Robert Pacy	Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson	Warde, Colonel C. E.
More Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)	Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)	Welby, Lt -Col. A.C. E (Taunton
Morgan, David J (Walthamst'w	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Morrell, George Herbert	Ropner, Colonel Robert,	Whiteley, H. (Ashton-und Lyne
Morrison, James Archilbald	Royds, Clement Molynex	Willox, Sir John Archibald
Mount, William Arthur	Sackville, Col S. G. Stopford	Wilson, A. Stanley (Yord, E.R.)
Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Murray, Charles J.(Coventry)	Smith, Abel H.(Hertford, East)	Wylie, Alexander
Nicholoson, William Graham	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.)	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Nicol, Donald Ninian	Smith, Hon. W.F.D.(Strand)
Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.	Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset
O'Doherty, William	Stanley, Lord (Lances.)	TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay	Stock, James Henry	Sir Alexander Acland-
Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)	Stroyan, John	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.

NOES.
Allen, Charles P(Gloue, Stroud	Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea	Shaw, Charles Edw (Staffford)
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Lambert, George	Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.)
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire)	Langley, Batty	Shipman, Dr. John G.
Brigg, John	Layland-Barratt, Francis	Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Caldwell, James	Leigh, Sir Joseph	Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Causton, Richard Knight	Levy, Maurice	Soares, Ernest J.
Channing, Francis Allston	Lewis, John Herbert	Spencer Rt. Hn. C. R. (Northants
Craig, Robert Hunter	M'Arthur, William (Cornwall	Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.)
Cremer, William Randal	M'Care George	Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Dalziel, James Henry	Markham, Arthur Basel	Thomson, F.W. (York, W. R.)
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)	Tomkinson, James
Dewar, John A. (Invernessish.	Moss, Samuel	Toulmin, George
Duncan, J. Hastings	Norton, Captain Cecil William	Wason, Eugene
Edwards, Frank	Nussey, Thomas Willians	Weir, James, Galloway
Elibank, Master of	Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden)	White, George (Norfolk)
Gladstone, Rt Hn. Herbert John	Pirie, Duncan V.	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Goddard, Daniel Ford	Price, Robert John	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Grant. Corrie	Priestley, Arthur	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton	Rickett, J. Compton	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Hayter, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur D	Roe, Sir Thomas	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Helme, Norval Watson	Runciman, Walter	Mr. Samuel Evans and
Horniman, Frederick John	Samuel Herbert L. (Cleveland)	Mr. Trevelyan.

Clause17:—

(2.48.) Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill"

AYES.
Allen, Charles, P(Glouc., Stroud	Duncan, J. Hastings	Layland-Barratt, Francis
Ashton, Thomas Gair	Edwards, Frank	Leigh, Sir Joseph
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire	Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbt. John	Levy, Maurice
Brigg, John	Goddard, Daniel Ford	M'Care George
Caldwell, James	Grant, Corrie	Markham, Arthur Basil
Causton, Richard Knight	Griffith, Ellis J.	Morley, Charles (Breconshire)
Channing, Franics Allston	Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale-	Moss, Samuel
Criag, Robert Hunter	Helme, Norval Watson	Pease J. A. (Saffron, Walden)
Cremer, William Randal	Horniman, Frederick John	Phillips, John Wynford
Dalziel, James Henry	Jones David Brynmor (Swansea	Pirie, Duncan V.
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen)	Lambert, George	Price, Robert John
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh.	Langley, Batty	Priestley, Arthur

The Committee divided:—Ayes 61; Noes.154. (Division List No.529)

Rea, Russell	Spares, Ernest J.	Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Rickett, J. Compton	Spencer, Rt. Hn C.R(Northants	Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)	Thomas, JA(Glamorg'n Gower	Wilson, Fred, W. (Norfolk, Mid
Roe, Sir Thomas	Thomason, F.W.(York, W.R)	Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.
Runciman, Walter	Tomkinson, James	Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland	Toulmin, George
Shaw, Thomas (Hawick, B.)	Wason, Eugene
Shipman, Dr. John G.	Weir, James Galloway	TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)	White, George (Norfolk)	Mr. Samuel Evans and
Somes, Arthur Wellesley	White, Luke (York, E.R.)	Mr. Trevelyan.

NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte	Foster, Philip S (Warwick, S.W	Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Arkwright, John Stanhope	Godson, Sir Augustus Fred'rick	Murray, Rt. Hn. A. Graham (Bute
Arnold-Forster, Hugh. O.	Gordon, Maj Evans-(TrH'ml'ts	Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Arrol, Sir William	Goschen, Hon. George Joachim	Nicholson, William Graham
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John	Goulding, Edward Alfred	Nicol, Donald Nurian
Bain, Colonel James Robert	Gray, Ernest (West Ham)	Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.)
Balcarres, Lord	Greene, Sir EW(B'ry S Edm'nds	O'Doherty, William
Balfour, Capt, C.B.(Hornsey)	Greene, W. Raymond-(Cambs.)	Orr-Eving, Charles Lindsay
Balfour, Rt. Hn Gerald W. (Leeds	Gretton, John	Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Chritch.	Groves, James Grimble	Parkes, Ebenezer
Bignold, Arthur	Guthire, Walter Murray	Percy, Earl
Blundell, Colonel Henry	Hamilton Rt Hn Lord G(Midd'x	Pierpoint, Robert
Boseawen, Arthur Griffith-	Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd	Pretyman, Ernest George
Brookfield, Colonel, Montagu	Hare, Thomas Leigh	Purvis, Robert
Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh.	Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo.	Rankin, Sir James
Brymer, William Ernest	Hoare. Sir Samuel	Reid, James (Greenock)
Bull, William Ernest	Hope, J.F (Sheffield's Brightside	Remnant, James Farquharson
Bulland, Sir Harry	Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm	Ritchie, Rt. Hon. Chas. Thomas
Butcher John George	Hozier, John James Henry Cecil	Roberts, Herbert (Hackney)
Carlile. William Walter	Jessel, Cap'ain Herbert Merton	Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Cautley, Henry Strother	Kemp, George	Ropner, Colonel Robert
Cavendish, R.F(N.Lancs.)	Kennedy, Partick, James	Royds, Clement Molyneux
Cavendish, V.C.W.(Derbyshire	Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T.(Denbigh)	Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor)	Keswick, William	Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn JA(Worc.	Knowles, Lees	Seely, Maj. J.E.B(Isle of Wight
Chapman, Edward	Law, Andrew Bonar(Glasgow)	Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East)
Charrington, Spencer	Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th	Smith, James Parker (Lanarks.
Clare, Octavius Leigh	Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool)	Smith, Hon. W.F.D(Strand)
Clive, Captain Percy A.	Lawson, John Grant	Stanley, Lord (Lancs.
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E.	Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage	Stock, James Henry
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse	Leigh, Bennett, Henry Currie	Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole	Llewellyn, Evan Henry	Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Colston, A. Cameron (Glasgow)	Lockie, John	Thompson, Dr. EC(Monagh'n N.
Cranborne, Viscount	Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine	Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M
Crossley, Sir Savile	Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham	Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward
Cubitt, Hon. Henry	Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S)	Tuke, Sir John Batty
Dalrymple, Sir Charles	Lowe, Francis William	Vlentia, Viscount
Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chath'm	Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale)	Walrond, Rt Hon Sir William H.
Dimsdale, Sir Joeseph Cockfield	Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth	Warde, Colonel C.E.
Doughty, George	Macdona, John Cumming	Welby, Lt-Col. A.C.E. (Tannt'n
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers-	M' Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)	Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Doxford, Sir William Theodore	M'Killop, James (St[...]lingshire)	Whiteley, H (Ashton-und. Lyne
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin	Majendie, James A. H.	Willox, Sir John Archiblad
Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton	Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F.	Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.)	Maxwell, W J. H (Dumfriesshire	Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Fellowas, Hon. Ailwyn Edward	Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M	Wylie, Alexander
Fielden, Edward Blocklehurest	Milvain, Thomas	Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Finch, George H.	Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne	More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire)
Fisher, William Hayes	Morgan, David J (Walthamst'w	TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon	Morrall, George Herbert	Sir Alexander Acland-
Fletcher, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry	Morrison, James Archibald	Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Forster, Henry William	Mount, William Arthur

The CHAIRMAN left the Chair to make his Report to the House.

Committee report Progress; to sit again tomorrow.

Mr. SPEAKER, in pursuance of the Order of the House of the 16th October last, adjourned the House without Question put.

Adjourned at Three o'clock, a.m.