§ 1. "That a further number of land forces, not exceeding 35,000, all ranks, be maintained for the service of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland at home and abroad during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1900."
§ 2. "That a supplementary sum, not exceeding £10,000,000, be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1900, for additional expenditure, in consequence of the military situation in South Africa, in respect of the following Army Services, viz.:—
| £ | |
| Vote 1. Pay, &c., of the Army | 1,000,000 |
| Vote 2. Medical Establishments: Pay, &c. | 50,000 |
| Vote 3. Militia: Pay, &c. | 250,000 |
| Vote 6. Transports and Remounts | 4,900,000 |
| Vote 7. Provisions, Forage, and other Supplies | 1,900,000 |
| Vote 8. Clothing Establishments and Services | 650,000 |
| Vote 9. Warlike and other Stores | 1,150,000 |
| Vote 10. Works, &c.: Cost (including Staff for Engineer Services) | 100,000 |
| Total | £10,000,000." |
§ Resolutions read a second time.
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the First Resolution."
§ MR. EDMUND ROBERTSON (Dundee)I have no intention of discussing this Vote, but I desire to put a question to the Under Secretary for War in reference to the allowance made by the Government to the families of the Reservists. I have had several communications on the subject, and there is a very general feeling that the amount of the allowance is really not adequate. I would like to ask the hon. Gentleman whether the Government, by statute or otherwise, can see its way either now or on some future occasion to increase the allowance to the families of Reservists.
§ MR. DALZIEL (Kirkcaldy Burghs)I wish to ask the Under Secretary for War whether he can add anything to what he said this afternoon in reference to the position in South Africa.
§ THE UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE FOR WAR (Mr. WYNDHAM,) DoverI have nothing further to add up to the present moment. In reply to the hon. Member for Dundee, the Government gives to the wives of Reservists who are embodied on permanent service a separation allowance which is, in the case of those who have no married quarters, 8d. per day for the wife, and 2d. a day for each of the children. That is Government money. In addition to this, the Government stops compulsorily 3d. a day at least of the pay of the soldier, making in all 11d. per day for the wife, and an additional 2d. for each child. This is by Act of Parliament. I may, perhaps, add that the Government do not intend to be behind employers of labour in this country, and that half-pay will be given to every Reservist employed in any Government office during the time of his embodiment for permanent service.
§ Question put.
§ The House divided:—Ayes, 333; Noes, 29. (Division List No. 13.)
553| AYES. | ||
| Aird, John | Cripps, Charles Alfred | Harwood, George |
| Allhusen, Augustus Hy. Eden | Crombie, John William | Haslett, Sir James Horner |
| Allsopp, Hon. George | Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Hayne, Rt. Hn. Chas. Seale- |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton) | Heath, James |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Cruddas, William Donaldson | Heaton, John Henniker |
| Arnold, Alfred | Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Hedderwick, Thomas C. H. |
| Ashmead-Bartlett, Sir Ellis | Currie, Sir Donald | Helder, Augustus |
| Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Hy. | Curzon, Viscount | Henderson, Alexander |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Dalkeith, Earl of | Hermon-Hodge, Robt. Trotter |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Hill, Arthur (Down, West) |
| Bainbridge, Emerson | Davenport, W. Bromley- | Hoare, E. Brodie (Hampstead) |
| Baird, John George Alexander | Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Hoare, Sir Samuel (Norwich) |
| Baldwin, Alfred | Davies, M. Vaughan-(Card'gn | Holden, Sir Angus |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch') | Denny, Colonel | Holland, William Henry |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. G. W. (Leeds) | Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Hornby, Sir William Henry |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Dixon-Hartland, Sir F. Dixon | Horniman, Frederick John |
| Barnes Frederic Gorell | Donkin, Richard Sim | Houldsworth, Sir William H. |
| Barry, Rt. Hn. A. H. Smith-(Hunts | Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Houston, R. P. |
| Barry, Sir Francis T. (Windsor) | Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Howard, Joseph |
| Barton, Dunbar Plunket | Doxford, William Theodore | Howell, William Tudor |
| Beach, Rt. Hn Sir. M. H. (Bristol | Drage, Geoffrey | Hozier, Hon. J. Henry Cecil |
| Beach, W. W. Bramston(Hants | Duckworth, James | Hughes, Colonel Edwin |
| Beckett, Ernest William | Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. | Hutton, John (Yorks. N.R.) |
| Begg, Ferdinand Faithfull | Dunn, Sir William | Jenkins, Sir John Jones |
| Bemrose, Sir Henry Howe | Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart | Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton |
| Bethell, Commander | Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Johnson-Ferguson, Jabez E |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas | Johnston, William (Belfast) |
| Biddulph, Michael | Evans, Sir F. H. (S'thampton) | Jolliffe, Hon. H. George |
| Bigwood, James | Jones, David Brynmor(Swans'a | |
| Bill, Charles | Fardell, Sir T George | Kearley, Hudson E. |
| Blakiston-Houston, John | Farquharson, Dr. Robert | Kemp, George |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edw. | Keswick, William |
| Bolitho, Thomas Bedford | Fenguson, R. C. Munro(Leith | Kimber, Henry |
| Bond, Edward | Fergusson Rt. Hn. Sir J. (Man'r | King, Sir Henry Seymour |
| Bonsor, Henry Cosmo Orme | Finch, George H. | Knowles, Lees |
| Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Finlay, Sir Robt. Bannatyne | Lafone, Alfred |
| Bowles, Capt. H.F. (Middlesex | Fisher, William Hayes | Lambert, George |
| Bowles, T Gibson(King'sLynn | Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond | Langley, Batty |
| Brookfield, A. Montagu | Fitz Wygram, General Sir F. | Lawrence, Sir E Durning-(Corn |
| Brown, Alexander H. | Folkestone, Viscount | Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool) |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Forster, Henry William | Lawson, John Grant (Yorks.) |
| Buchanan, Thomas Ryburn | Foster Colonel (Lancaster) | Lecky, Rt. Hon. William E.H. |
| Butcher, John George | Foster, Harry S.(Suffolk) | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co. | Leese, Sir Joseph F.(Accrington |
| Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | |
| Caldwell, James | Galloway, William Johnson | Llewellyn, Evan H. (Somerset) |
| Campbell, J. H. M. (Dublin) | Garfit, William | Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A. R. |
| Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. | Gedge, Sydney | Loder, Gerald W. Erskine |
| Carmichael, Sir T. D. Gibson- | Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (C. of Lond | Long, Col. C. W. (Evesham) |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Edward | Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Liv'pool) |
| Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) | Giles, Charles Tyrrell | Lopes, Henry Yarde Buller |
| Cawley, Frederick | Gilliat, John Saunders | Lorne, Marquess of |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert J. | Lowe, Francis William |
| Chaloner, Captain R. G. W. | Goldsworthy, Major-General | Loyd, Archie Kirkman |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm.) | Gordon, Hon. John Edward | Lubbock, Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Chamberlain, J. Austen(Worc'r | Gorst, Rt. Hn. Sir John Eldon | Lucas-Shadwell, William |
| Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry | Goschen, Rt Hn G J.(St George's | Lyell, Sir Leonard |
| Charrington, Spencer | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Macartney, W. G. Ellison |
| Clare, Octavius Leigh | Gourley, Sir Edw. Temperley | Macdona, John Cumming |
| Clarke, Sir Edward(Plymouth) | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | MacIver, David (Liverpool) |
| Cochrane, Hn. Thos. H. A. E. | Green, Walford D.(Wedn'sb'ry | Maclure, Sir John William |
| Coddington, Sir William | Greville, Hon. Ronald | M'Arthur, Chas. (Liverpool) |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) | M'Calmont, H. L. B. (Cambs.) |
| Cohen, Benjamin Louis | Gull, Sir Cameron | M'Crae, George |
| Colomb, Sir John Charles Ready | Haldane, Richard Burdon | Malcolm, Ian |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Hall, Rt. Hn. Sir Charles | Mappin, Sir Frederick Thorpe |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Halsey, Thomas Frederick | Marks, Henry Hananel |
| Cook, Fred Lucas (Lambeth) | Hamilton, Rt. Hn. Lord George | Massey-Mainwaring, Hn W.F. |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Hanbury, Rt. Hn. Robt. Wm. | Maxwell, Rt. Hon. Sir H. E. |
| Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge | Hanson, Sir Reginald | Mellor, Colonel (Lancashire) |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Mendl, Sigismund Ferdinand |
| Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. | Pryce-Jones, Lt-Col. Edward | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Purvis, Robert | Strachey, Edward |
| Milbank, Sir Powlett C. J. | Rankin, Sir James | Strauss, Arthur |
| Milton, Viscount | Rasch, Major Frederic C. | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Milward, Colonel Victor | Reid, Sir Robert Threshie | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Monk, Charles James | Renshaw, Charles Bine | Talbot, Rt Hn. J G.(Oxf'd Univ. |
| Montagu, Sir S. (Whitechapel | Richardson, Sir T.(Hartlepool | Tennant, Harold John |
| Moon, Edward Robert Pacy | Rickett, J. Compton | Thomas, A. (Carmarthen, E.) |
| Moore, William (Antrim, N.) | Ridley, Rt. Hon. Sir M. W. | Thomas, Alfred (Glamorgan, E. |
| Morton, A. H. A. (Deptford) | Ritchie, Rt. Hon. Chas. T. | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Morton, E. J. C. (Devonport) | Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) | Tomlinson, W. Edw. Murray |
| Mount, William George | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Muntz, Philip A. | Rothschild, Hon. Lionel W. | Tritton, Charles Ernest |
| Murray, Rt Hn. A. G. (Bute | Round, James | Valentia, Viscount |
| Murray, Charles J. (Coventry | Royds, Clement Molyneux | Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. H. |
| Murray, Col W. (Bath) | Russell, Gen.F.S.(Cheltenham | Wallace, Robert |
| Myers, William Henry | Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) | Walton, John L. (Leeds, S.) |
| Newdigate, Francis Alex. | Rutherford, John | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Nicholson, William Graham | Ryder, John Herbert Dudley | Warr, Augustus Frederick |
| Nicol, Donald Ninian | Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) | Webster, Sir Richard E. |
| Northcote, Hon. Sir H. S. | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C E. |
| Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Sandys, Lieut.-Col. Thos. Myles | Whitmore, Charles Algernon |
| Oldroyd, Mark | Savory, Sir Joseph | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Scoble, Sir Andrew Richard | Williams, Jsph. Powell-(Birm. |
| Palmer, Sir Charles M. (Durh'm | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Paulton, James Mellor | Seely, Charles Hilton | Wilson Charles Henry (Hull) |
| Pease, Alfred E. (Cleveland) | Sharpe, William Edward T. | Wilson, John (Falkirk) |
| Pease, H. Pike (Darlington) | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) | Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath) |
| Pease, Joseph A. (Northumb.) | Shaw-Stewart, M. H.(Renfrew) | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Pender, Sir James | Sidebotham, J. W. (Cheshire) | Woods, Samuel |
| Perks, Robert William | Sidebottom, Wm. (Derbysh.) | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. S.- |
| Philipps, John Wynford | Sinclair, Capt J. (Forfarshire) | Wrightson, Thomas |
| Pierpoint, Robert | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) | Wylie, Alexander |
| Pilkington, Sir G. A(Lancs. S W | Smith, Abel H. (Christchurch) | Wyndham, George |
| Pirie, Duncan, V. | Smith, JamesParker(Lanarksh | Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy |
| Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Soames, Arthur Wellesley | Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong |
| Plunkett, Rt. Hon. Horace C. | Spencer, Ernest | Young, Com'and'r (Berks, E.) |
| Pollock, Harry Frederick | Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Stanley, Ed. Jas. (Somerset) | |
| Pretyman, Ernest George | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Priestley, Sir W. Overend(Edin | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart | |
| Provand, Andrew Dryburgh | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir J. M. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork,N. E. | Gilhooly, James | M'Hugh, Patrick A. (Leitrim) |
| Ambrose, Robert | Hayden, John Patrick | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) |
| Austin, M. (Limerick, W.) | Healy, Maurice (Cork) | O'Connor, Jas. (Wicklow, W.) |
| Blake, Edward | Jordan, Jeremiah | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Commins, Andrew | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'land) | Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) |
| Curran, Thomas (Sligo, S.) | Lloyd-George, David | Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal,W.) |
| Daly James | Macaleese, Daniel | Tuite, James |
| Davitt, Michael | MacDonnell, Dr. M. A.(Q'n's C. | |
| Donelan, Captain A. | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— |
| Doogan, P. C. | M'Cartan, Michael | Mr. Dillon and Mr. William Redmond. |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | M'Ghee, Richard |
§ Resolution agreed to.
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the Second Resolution"
§ MR. J. H. LEWIS (Flint Boroughs)I would like to draw attention to the calling out of the Army Medical Reserve. I understand a notice appears in the newspapers by the Director General of the Royal Army Medical Corps, asking for applications to fill the posts that have 554 been vacated by the appointment of Army doctors to foreign service. There are a large number of medical officers belonging to the Army Medical Reserve who are willing to serve, but whoso services have not been requisitioned. The question I wish to ask the hon. Gentleman the Under Secretary for War is whether these officers, who necessarily have had a military training, would be accepted in priority to any other medical officers? I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman, will be able to give a definite reply at 555 present to this question. All I ask is that he will consider the matter.
§ MR. WYNDHAMI am making inquiries in regard to the matter, and I will be in a better position to give the hon. Member an answer if he will put down his question for Thursday.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIEN (Kilkenny)Before we put this enormous Vote I venture to express my opinion against it, and the opinion of my constituents. I have unfortunately been trying to get an opportunity to speak, and have not succeeded. I am the more anxious to do this because my name has been brought before the House for some reflections alleged to have been delivered by me in Dublin. I was anxious that here, on the floor of the House of Commons, my opinion should be heard. I did not attach any great importance to my speech until I found myself a hero on account of it. I am sorry that the Leader of the House went so far as to say that what I was alleged to have said was contrary to the rules of the House. It has been said that there is yet another opportunity to prosecute me in Ireland, and that the Government have been urged to do it; but I beg to assure them that I am prepared to meet them, and until then I withdraw nothing, I modify nothing, and I apologise for nothing which I said in Ireland. My opinions are against this war as an unjust war; as the war of the big bully against a small opponent, because if, as has frequently been pointed out in this House, it was one of the first-class Powers of the world that was on the other side we know that the British would have done as they did in China—they would have swallowed the leek as they did when they had their opportunity of meeting Russia. I cannot understand the hypocrisy of the British people, who claim to be such excellent Christians. Here, in this House of Commons, every afternoon, we hear read for us the beautiful prayer which prays for the unity and the meeting together of all peoples, yet at the same time we find this Government plotting and planning war against one of the most innocent people in the world; against a people who never did you any wrong. The real motive for the war came out to-day. It is that you may secure the gold mines of the Rand to pay for the war, and put the 556 rest in your pockets, the same as you have been doing in regard to Ireland. These are my opinions, and you are welcome to have them. These are the opinions of my constituents in Kilkenny. Well, if there is any doubt about it I invite the British Government to bring their foot, horse, and artillery into Kilkenny to see if they are in favour of this war, and I will hunt them out of it. The opinion of the people of Kilkenny is the opinion of the Irish race in every part of the world. What more natural than that the people of Ireland, "rightly struggling to be free," should be with the Boers, who also are rightly struggling to maintain their freedom and to keep you out of the Transvaal? These are the views of the Irish people. If there is anything illegal or improper in conveying that information, I am not the man to refuse to take the responsibility of my own words. I stick to whatever I have said. I know it has been alleged that there are certain Irishmen in the British Army—["No, no!"] Oh, yes; they are at the front fighting, and in that respect they are different from some of the gallant colonels who sit on the Ministerial benches, and keep as far away as they can from the seat of war. Irishmen are in your Army, but how did they get there? I will tell you. It is because by British misgovernment of their country they have nothing to do, and have been starved into that position.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! The hon. Member must address himself to the question before the House.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENI will try, Mr. Speaker, to do it; but, under the special circumstances, I think I am entitled to a little more license than other Members.
§ *THE SPEAKERBut the hon. Member cannot have more license than the rules of the House permit.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENThese Irishmen in your Army do not represent Irish opinion. It is true that they represent Irish valour, but they do not represent Irish opinion. There is a band of Irishmen engaged in this war, fighting under their own flag, on the side of the Boers, and they represent Irish opinion undoubtedly. And there are tens of 557 thousands of Irishmen in other parts of the world who would go to the assistance of President Kruger if they could get there. You may wonder why this is so. The Under Secretary of State for War gave the explanation of the whole of the circumstances, because he said, and he made a boast of it, that all the self-governing colonies of Her Majesty were in sympathy with the British in this war. Precisely—because they are self-governing, and if the British were to apply that remedy to the people of Ireland it is possible they might have the masses of the people with them. But mind you, they are now against you—they are with President Kruger. They are against England because they suffer from misgovernment, because they know this country has been unjust, and that it is unjust to ask them to help to pay the bill for this war. Those who talk of allegiance should remember how much confidence the Irish people ought to place in you. You have broken treaties everywhere. You are breaking treaties to-day as you did at Limerick, and no doubt the Boers are fighting to the death because you have broken treaties with them. Personally, I do hope the Boers will succeed in putting you out of their country; most decidedly, as a friend of liberty, I cannot think otherwise, and if any other Power were to treat them as you are doing, this House would ring against the injustice of it. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has to-day, very cleverly, I think, kept out of sight so far as he could, just as the Colonial Secretary kept out of sight as long as he could, the real motive of this war, and those who are to pay the bill. He was afraid to touch the income tax, because then the people who are so clamorous for war would—
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! I must remind the hon. Member that that has nothing to do with the question of Report of Supply.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENI think it has a good deal to do with it.
§ *MR. SPEAKERWays and means are one thing; Supply is another.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENThe butcher's bill is to be put off till April next.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! The hon. Member is not attending to my ruling.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENI suppose I shall be entitled to say that Ireland has no right to be taxed for any portion of the cost.
§ *MR. SPEAKERNo.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENI have learnt from this evening's experience that in future when in the House I must take a more intelligent interest in the proceedings of the House, as the late Speaker used to say. I shall take care to speak where I will be able to say what I want to say without the misfortune of being called to order by your ruling.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order!
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENThis war is an unjust war. Ireland has no part in it, and has no right to be charged with any portion of the cost. I will go further and say that this war is a crime against humanity, and the principal actor in that crime has, in my opinion, his hands as deeply stained in blood as any criminal who ever mounted to the scaffold—I refer to the Colonial Secretary.
§ *MR. SPEAKERI call upon the hon. Member to withdraw that expression.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENNo, Sir; I do not withdraw anything of the kind. That is my conscientious and deliberate opinion.
§ *MR. SPEAKERAs the hon. Member has distinctly refused to withdraw the statement he has made, it is my duty to name Mr. Patrick O'Brien for disregarding the authority of the Chair.
§ SIR M. HICKS BEACHI move that the hon. Member be suspended from the service of the House.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMONDHe only told the truth.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order!
§ Motion made and Question put, "That Mr. Patrick O'Brien be suspended from the Service of the House."—(Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer.)
559§ The House divided:—Ayes, 316; Noes, 26. (Division List No. 14.)
561| AYES. | ||
| Aird, John | Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Hill, Arthur (Down, West) |
| Allhusen, A. Henry Eden | Currie, Sir Donald | Hoare, Ed. Brodie(Hampstead |
| Allsopp, Hon. George | Curzon, Viscount | Hoare, Sir Samuel (Norwich) |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Dalkeith, Earl of | Holden, Sir Angus |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Holland, William Henry |
| Arnold, Alfred | Davenport, W. Bromley- | Hornby, Sir William Henry |
| Ashmead-Bartlett, Sir Ellis | Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Horniman, Frederick John |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardig'n) | Houldsworth, Sir. Wm. Henry |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Denny, Colonel | Houston, R. P. |
| Baird, Jn. George Alexander | Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Howard, Joseph |
| Baldwin, Alfred | Dixon-Hartland, Sir F. Dixon | Howell, William Tudor |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r | Donkin, Richard Sim | Hozier, Hon. James H. Cecil |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon GrldW. (Leeds | Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Hutton, John (Yorks, N.R.) |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Doxford, William Theodore | |
| Barlow, John Emmott | Drage, Geoffrey | Jenkins, Sir John Jones |
| Barnes, Frederic Gorell | Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. | Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton |
| Barry, Rt. Hn. A. H. Smith-(Hts | Dunn, Sir William | Johnson-Ferguson, Jabez E. |
| Barton, Dunbar Plunket | Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Hart- | Johnston, William (Belfast) |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M. H. (Bristol | Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Jolliffe, Hon. H. George |
| Beach, W. W. B. (Hants.) | Elliot, Hon. A. R. Douglas | Kearley, Hudson E. |
| Begg, Ferdinand Faithful | Evans, Sir F. H. (South'ton) | Kemp, George |
| Bemrose, Sir Henry Howe | Fardell, Sir T. George | Keswick, William |
| Bethell, Commander | Farquharson, Dr. Robert | Kimber, Henry |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | King, Sir Henry Seymour |
| Bigwood, James | Ferguson, R.C. Munro (Leith) | Knowles, Lees |
| Bill, Charles | Fergusson, Rt. Hn. Sir J.(Man.) | Lafone, Alfred |
| Billson, Alfred | Finch, George H. | Lambert, George |
| Blakiston-Houston, John | Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Langley, Batty |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Fisher, William Hayes | Lawrence, Sir E. Durn'g-(Corn. |
| Bolitho, Thomas Bedford | Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond | Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool) |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | FitzWygram, General Sir F. | Lawson, John Grant (Yorks.) |
| Bond, Edward | Folkestone, Viscount | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumberland) |
| Bonsor, Henry Cosmo Orme | Forster, Henry William | Lecky, Rt. Hn. William Edw. H |
| Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Foster, Colonel (Lancaster) | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) |
| Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex) | Foster, Harry S. (Suffolk) | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) |
| Bowles T. G. (King's Lynn) | Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie |
| Brookfield, A. Montagu | Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry | Llewellyn, E. H. (Somerset) |
| Brown, Alexander H. | Galloway, William Johnson | Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A. R. |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Garfit, William | Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine |
| Buchanan, Thomas Ryburn | Gedge, Sydney | Long, Col. Chas. W.(Evesham) |
| Butcher, John George | Gibbs, Hn. A G H.(CityofLond.) | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Liverpool |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Gibbs, Hon. V (St. Albans) | Lorne, Marquess of |
| Caldwell, James | Giles, Charles Tyrrell | Lowe, Francis William |
| Campbell, J. H. M. (Dublin) | Gilliat, John Saunders | Loyd, Archie Kirkman |
| Carmichael, Sir T. D. Gibson- | Goldsworthy, Major-General | Lubbock, Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Edward | Gordon, Hon. John Edward | Lucas-Shadwell, William |
| Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) | Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon | Lyell, Sir Leonard |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Goschen, Rt. Hn. G. J.(St. Geo.'s | Macartney, W. G. Ellison |
| Chaloner, Captain R. G. W. | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Macdona, John Cumming |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm.) | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | MacIver, David (Liverpool) |
| Chamberlain, J. Austen(Worc'r | Green, W. D. (Wednesbury) | Maclure, Sir John William |
| Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry | Greville, Hon. Ronald | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) |
| Charrington, Spencer | Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) | M'Calmont, H. L. B. (Cambs.) |
| Clare, Octavius Leigh | Gull, Sir Cameron | Malcolm, Ian |
| Clarke, Sir Edward (Plymouth | Haldane, Richard Burdon | Mappin, Sir Frederick Thorpe |
| Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A.E. | Hall, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | Marks, Henry Hananel |
| Coddington, Sir William | Halsey, Thomas Frederick | Martin, Richard Biddulph |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Hamilton, Rt. Hon. Lord Geo. | Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F. |
| Cohen, Benjamin Louis | Hanbury, Rt, Hon. R. Wm. | Maxwell, Rt. Hn. Sir Herbert E. |
| Colomb, Sir John Chas. Ready | Hanson, Sir Reginald | Mellor, Colonel (Lancashire) |
| Colston, Chas. Ed. H. Athole | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Mendl, Sigismund Ferdinand |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Harwood, George | Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. |
| Cook, Fred. Lucas (Lambeth) | Haslett, Sir James Horner | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasg.) | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale- | Milbank, Sir Powlett Chas John |
| Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge | Hazell, Walter | Milton, Viscount |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Heath, James | Milward, Colonel Victor |
| Cripps, Charles Alfred | Hedderwick, Thomas Chas. H. | Monk, Charles James |
| Crombie, John William | Helder, Augustus | Montagu, Sir S. (Whitechapel |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Henderson, Alexander | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy |
| Cruddas, William Donaldson | Hermon-Hodge, Rbt. Trotter | Moore, William (Antrim, N.) |
| Morrell, George Herbert | Rasch, Major Frederic Carne | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Morton, A. H. A. (Deptford) | Renshaw, Charles Bine | Strachey, Edward |
| Mount, William George | Richardson, Sir T. (Hartlep'l) | Strauss, Arthur |
| Muntz, Philip A. | Rickett, J. Compton | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Murray, Rt. Hn A. Graham(Bute) | Ridley, Rt. Hn. Sir Matthew W. | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) | Ritchie, Rt. Hon. C. T | Talbot, Rt Hn J. G.(Oxford Uni. |
| Murray,Col. Wyndham (Bath) | Roberts, J. H. (Denbighsh.) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Myers, William Henry | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Newdigate, Francis Alexander | Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter | Tomlinson, Wm. E. Murray |
| Nicholson, William Graham | Round, James | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Nicol, Donald Ninian | Royds, Clement Molyneux | Tritton, Charles Ernest |
| Northcote, Hon. Sir H. Stafford | Russell, Gen. F. S. (Chelt'nh'm | Valentia, Viscount |
| Norton, Capt. Cecil William | Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) | Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. Howard |
| Oldroyd, Mark | Rutherford, John | Wallace, Robert |
| O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens | Ryder, John Herbert Dudley | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Palmer, Sir C. M. (Durham) | Sandys, Lieut.-Col. T. Myles | Warr, Augustus Frederick |
| Paulton, James Mellor | Savory, Sir Joseph | Webster, Sir Richard E. |
| Pease, Alfred E. (Cleveland) | Scoble, Sir Andrew Richard | Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E. |
| Pease, H. Pike (Darlington) | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) | Whitmore, Charles Algernon |
| Pease, Joseph A. (Northumb.) | Seely, Charles Hilton | Williams Joseph Powell-(Birm. |
| Pender, Sir James | Sharpe, William Edward T. | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Perks, Robert William | Shaw, Charles E. (Stafford) | Wilson, Charles Henry (Hull) |
| Philipps, John Wynford | Shaw-Stewart, M.H. (Renfrew | Wilson, John (Falkirk) |
| Pierpoint, Robert | Sidebotham, J. W. (Cheshire) | Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E.R.(Bath |
| Pilkington, R.(Lancs.Newt'n) | Sidebottom, Wm. (Derbysh.) | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Pilkington, Sir G. (Lancs. S. W. | Sinclair, Capt. John (Forfarsh.) | Wrightson, Thomas |
| Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) | Wylie, Alexander |
| Plunkett, Rt. Hon. H. Curzon | Smith, Abel H. (Christchurch | Wyndham, George |
| Pollock, Harry Frederick | Smith, Jas. Parker (Lanarks) | Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy |
| Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Soames, Arthur Wellesley | Yerburgh, Robert Armstrong |
| Pretyman, Ernest George | Spencer, Ernest | Young, Commander(Berks, E.) |
| Priestley, Sir W. O. (Edin.) | Stanley, Hon. A. (Ormskirk) | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Provand, Andrew Dryburgh | Stanley, E. James (Somerset) | |
| Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. (Edin.) | Stanley, Lord (Lancashire) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— |
| Purvis, Robert | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart | Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Rankin, Sir James | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir J. M. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm. (Cork, N.E.) | Flavin, Michael Joseph | M'Hugh, Patrick A. (Leitrim |
| Ambrose, Robert | Gilhooly, James | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) |
| Austin, M. (Limerick W.) | Hayden, John Patrick | O'Connor, James(Wicklow, W. |
| Commins, Andrew | Healy, Maurice (Cork) | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Curran, Thomas B. (Donegal) | Jordan, Jeremiah | Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) |
| Curran, Thomas (Sligo, S) | Macaleese, Daniel | Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.) |
| Daly, James | MacDonnell, Dr. M A(Queen'sC | |
| Davitt, Michael | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | TELLERS FOE THE NOES— |
| Donelan, Captain A. | M'Cartan, Michael | Mr. Dillon and Mr. William Redmond. |
| Doogan, P. C. | M'Ghee, Richard |
§ Whereupon Mr. Speaker directed Mr. Patrick O'Brien to withdraw.
§ MR. PATRICK O'BRIENI do not want you to bring up another army corps; you may want it somewhere else; so I will go.
§ The hon. Member then withdrew.
§ MR. DILLONThere are two questions arising out of the situation in South Africa that I wish to ask the Under Secretary for War before we go to a Division. One is, in view of the unexpectedly large number of wounded on both sides which have to be attended to, what steps the Government are taking to meet the emergency, and what medical 562 staff was on duty near the scene of the recent engagements? Another point on which I desire to ask the Government for information—although I am not sanguine as to getting it, but I am determined to press for it on every occasion—is as to what orders have been sent to the British Resident in Basutoland with regard to his attitude towards the Basuto people. Her Majesty's Government are directly responsible for any action the Basutos may take, inasmuch as they are represented in the country by a British officer, and the people are under the sovereignty of the Queen; and I am therefore entitled, in the interests of humanity and of all the white people in South Africa, to press for an assurance 563 from the Government as to what orders have been sent out.
§ MR. DILLONI think the interruption and the cheers with which it was received only prove the necessity for the question I ask. I was influenced in this matter by the fact that a direct incitement appeared in a London newspaper to the Basutos to invade the Orange Free State.
§ A VOICE: By whom?
§ MR. DILLONBy the Standard, among others. [Cries of "Quote."] I will bring down the paragraph. It is well known that that interpretation has been placed upon it, not by my self, but by Englishmen. Are the Government going to adopt that attitude in South Africa? Are they going to allow the Basuto people to swoop down upon the plains of the Orange Free State? That would be an act of folly, and a crime, and would add to the misery and the horrible consequences which at best must result and remain for many years to come from that war.
§ MR. WYNDHAMThe hon. Member has accompanied a simple question, which I could have answered in two or three minutes, with a number of suggestions which I can only term as of an insulting character. He has quoted his recollection or his interpretation of a passage in a newspaper which he has not brought with him, he places an interpretation upon it which he says is generally placed upon it, and he says that an English newspaper has incited the Basutos to go to war with the Boers. I shall believe that when I see it in print with my own eyes. But he has gone on to ask and to say that he will press for an answer to his question, whether this country will encourage the Basutos and the other native races to attack one of the two white races. Sir, I can hardly find words in which to repudiate the suggestion of the hon. Member. The first duty of the paramount Power in South Africa is to act as a guardian against the possibility of any such horrors as those suggested, and one of the principal reasons why Her Majesty's Government insists upon maintaining the paramountcy in South Africa 564 is because they know that they, and they alone, are responsible for that duty, and that they, and they alone, are capable of discharging it. As to the other question the hon. Member has put to me, he and other hon. Members are entitled to put as many questions as they please as to the arrangements that have been made for tending the wounded on both sides. But as I should not like to be inaccurate in any particular, I should prefer to give an answer later. I have here the exact figures of the medical corps with the field force focussed upon Natal, and, while I should not like to answer off-hand as to the proportions we have on the spot there, I believe them to be on a generous scale, and to be entirely adequate to meet the emergency. I trust that no lack of foresight has helped to increase the suffering of the wounded.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMONDI must confess that I think when responsible Ministers are asked questions which are within the right of the hon. Gentlemen who put them, the hon. Gentlemen are entitled to an official answer, given without the heat and passion which the hon. Gentleman who has just resumed his seat has thrown into his reply. Such language is only calculated to invite retort and prolong the debates in this House. I rise now because I desire to protest as strongly as I can against that policy which made this Vote of ten millions necessary to the Government at the present time. Hon. Gentlemen opposite may not agree with me, but my strong conviction is that it is a war which should never have been entered into, and the only satisfaction I feel is that I have never by voice or vote taken the slightest responsibility for the terrible and pitiable carnage that is going on day by day, filling England, Ireland, and Scotland, as well as South Africa, with misery and tears as news reaches the people of the fate of their relatives. I do not discuss the matter; I feel that the Dutch are in the right, and I honestly believe there is not an arbitrator outside the English people who would not, having surveyed the circumstances, decide in favour of the people of these Republics. At the same time, I find no satisfaction from that when I read of the slaughter that is going on; my sympathies then are with those who fall on each side, because the soldiers who are sent to prosecute this war have 565 nothing to do with the policy, and I regard those men just as much victims as the Boers of South Africa. This war is the more lamentable when it is remembered that it comes at the end of the nineteenth century, at the close of a conference at which all the civilised nations were represented, where the representative of this country was the foremost to admit that arbitration ought to be substituted for war. The people we are now fighting, as we know, offered to submit to arbitration all the matters in dispute, and we rejected their offer time after time. For my part I shall never again have the same faith that I have
§ always held, I hope, in the mercy and justice of Providence, for these poor people who are struggling for liberty are overborne by your arms. I believe be fore this war is over you will have to pay not only the ten millions we are now voting, but the blood and lives of the cream of your Army, and the best and bravest of your race.
§ Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the Second Resolution".
§ The House divided: Ayes, 308; Noes, 29. (Division List No. 15.)
567| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt.Sir Alex. F. | Chamberlain, J. Austen(Wor.) | Foster Colonel (Lancaster) |
| Aird, John | Chaplin, Right Hon. Henry | Foster, Harry S. (Suffolk) |
| Allhusen, Augustus H. Eden | Charrington, Spencer | Foster, Sir W. (Derby Co.) |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Clare, Octavius Leigh | Fowler, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Galloway, William Johnson |
| Ashmead-Bartlett, Sir Ellis | Coddington, Sir William | Garfit, William |
| Asquith, Rt. Hn Herbert Henry | Coghill, Douglas Harry | Gedge, Sydney |
| Atkinson, Right Hon. John | Cohen, Benjamin Louis | Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H.(CityofLond |
| Bagot, Capt. JoscelineFitzRoy | Colomb, Sir John Charles R. | Gibbs, Hn. Vicary (St. Albans) |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Giles, Charles Tyrrell |
| Bainbridge, Emerson | Compton, Lord Alwyne | Gilliat, John Saunders |
| Baldwin, Alfred | Cook, Fred. Lucas (Lambeth) | Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert J. |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J.(Manch'r | Cranborne, Viscount | Goldsworthy, Major-General |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. G.W.(Leeds) | Crombie, John William | Gordon, Hon. John Edward |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Eldon |
| Barnes, Frederic Gorell | Cruddas, William Donaldson | Goschen, Rt. Hn G. J. (St. Geo.'s |
| Barry, Rt. Hon. A. H. S-(Hunts | Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Goulding, Edward Alfred |
| Barton, Dunbar Plunket | Currie, Sir Donald | Gourley, Sir Ed. Temperley |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H.(Bristol | Curzon, Viscount | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) |
| Beach, W. W. Bramston(Hants) | Dalkeith, Earl of | Green, W. D. (Wednesbury) |
| Begg, Ferdinand Faithfull | Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) |
| Bemrose, Sir H. H. | Davenport, W. Bromley- | Gull, Sir Cameron |
| Bethell, Commander | Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Haldane, Richard Burdon |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan | Halsey, Thomas Frederick |
| Bigwood, James | Denny, Colonel | Hamilton, Rt. Hon. Lord G. |
| Bill, Charles | Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Rbt. Wm. |
| Billson, Alfred | Dixon-Hartland, Sir F. Dixon | Hanson, Sir Reginald |
| Blakiston-Houston, John | Donkin, Richard Sim | Hare, Thomas Leigh |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Harwood, George |
| Bolitho, Thomas Bedford | Doxford, William Theodore | Haslett, Sir James Horner |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Drage, Geoffrey | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- |
| Bond, Edward | Duckworth, James | Hazell, Walter |
| Bonsor, Henry Cosmo Orme | Duncombe, Hon. Hubert V. | Heath, James |
| Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Dunn, Sir William | Hedderwick, Thos. Charles H. |
| Bowles, Capt. H. F.(Middlesex) | Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Hart | Helder, Augustus |
| Bowles, T. Gibson(King'sLynn) | Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Henderson, Alexander |
| Brookfield, A. Montagu | Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas | Hermon-Hodge, Robert Trotter |
| Brown, Alexander H. | Evans, Sir F. H. (South'ton) | Hill, Arthur (Down, West) |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Fardell, Sir T. George | Hoare, Ed. Brodie(Hampstead |
| Butcher, John George | Farquharson, Dr. Robert | Hoare, Sir Samuel (Norwich) |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edw. | Holden, Sir Angus |
| Caldwell, James | Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leiths) | Holland, William Henry |
| Campbell, J. H. M. (Dublin) | Fergusson, Rt. H. Sir J.(Man.) | Hornby, Sir William Henry |
| Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. | Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Horniman, Frederick John |
| Carmichael, Sir T. D. Gibson- | Firbank, Joseph Thomas | Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Edward | Fisher, William Hayes | Howard, Joseph |
| Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) | Fison, Frederick William | Howell, William Tudor |
| Cawley, Frederick | Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond | Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Fitz Wygram, General Sir F. | Hutton, John (Yorks. N.R.) |
| Chaloner, Captain R. G. W. | Folkestone, Viscount | Jenkins, Sir John Jones |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J.(Birm. | Forster, Henry William | Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton |
| Johnston, William (Belfast) | Myers, William Henry | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Jolliffe, Hon. H. George | Newdigate, Francis Alex. | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) |
| Kearley, Hudson, E. | Nicholson, William Graham | Shaw-Stewart, M.H.(Renfrew |
| Kemp, George | Nicol, Donald Ninian | Sidebottom, William(Derbysh. |
| Keswick, William | Northcote, Hon. Sir H. Staf. | Sinclair, Capt. J. (Forfarshire) |
| Kimber, Henry | Norton, Capt. Cecil William | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) |
| Knowles, Lees | Oldroyd, Mark | Smith, Abel H. (Christchurch) |
| Lambert, George | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens | Smith, Jas. Parker (Lanarks.) |
| Langley, Batty | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Lawrence, Wm. F. (Liverpool) | Palmer, Sir C. M. (Durham) | Spencer, Ernest |
| Lawson, John Grant (Yorks) | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | Stanley, Hon. A. (Ormskirk) |
| Lecky, Rt. Hon. W. Edw. H. | Pease, Alfred E. (Cleveland) | Stanley, E. Jas. (Somerset) |
| Lees, Sir E. (Birkenhead) | Pease, Herbert Pike(Darl'gton) | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) |
| Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Pease, Joseph A. (Northumb.) | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart |
| Llewellyn, Evan H. (Somerset) | Pender, Sir James | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M. |
| Llewelyn, Sir Dillwyn-(Sw'ns'a | Perks, Robert William | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine | Philipps, John Wynford | Strachey, Edward |
| Long, Col. C. W. (Evesham) | Pierpoint, Robert | Strauss, Arthur |
| Long, Rt. Hn. W. (Liverpool) | Pilkington, R.(Lancs., Newton | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Lorne, Marquess of | Pilkington, Sir G. A. (Lancs S W | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Lowe, Francis William | Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Sutherland, Sir Thomas |
| Loyd, Arehie Kirkman | Pollock, Harry Frederick | Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G.(Oxf. Univ. |
| Lubbock, Rt. Hon. Sir John | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Tennant, Harold John |
| Lucas-Shadwell, William | Pretyman, Ernest George | Thomas, A. (Glamorgan, E.) |
| Lyell, Sir Leonard | Price, Robert John | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Macartney, W. G. Ellison | Priestley, Sir W. O. (Edin.) | Tomlinson, Wm. E. Murray |
| Macdona, John Cumming | Provand, Andrew Dryburgh | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| MacIver, David (Liverpool) | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward | Tritton, Charles Ernest |
| Maclure, Sir John William | Purvis, Robert | Valentia, Viscount |
| M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Rankin, Sir James | Vincent, Col. Sir C. E. H. |
| M'Calmont, H. L. B. (Cambs.) | Rasch, Major Frederic Carne | Wallace, Robert |
| M'Crae, George | Renshaw, Charles Bine | Warner, Thos. Courtenay T. |
| Malcolm, Ian | Richardson, Sir T. (Hartlep'l) | Warr, Augustus Frederick |
| Marks, Henry Hananel | Rickett, J. Compton | Webster, Sir Richard E. |
| Martin, Richard Biddulph | Ridley. Rt. Hon. Sir Matthew W | Welby, Lieut.-Col. A. C. E. |
| Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W.F | Ritchie, Rt. Hon. C. Thomson | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Maxwell, Rt. Hn. Sir Herbert E. | Roberts, John H. (Denbighs) | Williams, Joseph Powell-(Birm |
| Mellor, Colonel (Lancashire) | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Mendl, Sigismund Ferdinand | Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter | Wilson, Charles Henry (Hull) |
| Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. | Round, James | Wilson, John (Falkirk) |
| Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Royds, Clement Molyneux | Wilson, John (Govan) |
| Milbank, Sir Powl'ttChas. John | Russell, Gen. F. S.(Cheltenham) | Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R.(Bath) |
| Milton, Viscount | Russell, T. W. (Tyrone) | Wolff, Gustav wilhelm |
| Milward, Colonel Victor | Rutherford, John | Wrightson, Thomas |
| Monk, Charles James | Ryder, John Herbert Dudley | Wylie, Alexander |
| Moore, William (Antrim, N.) | Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) | Wyndham, George |
| Morrell, George Herbert | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Wyvill, Marmaduke D'Arcy |
| Morton, A. H. A. (Deptford) | Sandys, Lt.-Col. Thos. Myles | Young, Commander (Berks, E) |
| Muntz, Philip A. | Savory, Sir Joseph | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Murray, Rt. Hn. A. G. (Bute) | Scoble, Sir Andrew Richard | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— |
| Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) | Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Murray, Col. Wyndham(Bath) | Seely, Charles Hilton | |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork,N.E. | Flavin, Michael Joseph | M'Dermott, Patrick |
| Ambrose, Robert | Gilhooly, James | M'Ghee, Richard |
| Austin, M. (Limerick, W) | Hayden, John Patrick | M'Hugh, Patrick A. (Leitrim) |
| Blake, Edward | Healy, Maurice (Cork) | O'Connor, James(Wicklow,W. |
| Commins, Andrew | Jordan, Jeremiah | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Curran, Thomas B. (Donegal) | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'land) | Sullivan, Donal (Westmeath) |
| Curran, Thomas (Sligo, S.) | Lloyd-George, David | Sullivan, T. D. (Donegal, W.) |
| Daly, James | Macaleese, Daniel | |
| Davitt, Michael | MacDonnell,Dr.MA(Qn.'sCo.) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— |
| Donelan, Captain A. | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Mr. Dillon and Mr. William Redmond. |
| Doogan, P. C. | M'Cartan, Michael |
Resolution agreed to.
§ In pursuance of the Order of the House of the 18th day of this instant October,
568§ Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without Question put.
§ Adjourned accordingly at Eight of the clock.